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Robert Spencer video: Opposition to Trump immigration ban is based on false pretenses

Mar 7, 2017 7:14 pm By Robert Spencer

In this new video, I explain why opposition to President Trump’s immigration ban is based neither on fact nor on sound reasoning, but on a false imputation of motives. I taped this after the first ban was struck down, but since the same arguments are recurring now, this video remains relevant.

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  1. StacyGirl says

    Mar 7, 2017 at 10:41 pm

    I believe an accounting of honor killings is part of this, according to Gateway Pundit.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 7, 2017 at 11:52 pm

      Yes–that story is here, Stacy:

      “Trump’s new executive order on immigration requires a log of honor killings”

      https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/03/trumps-new-executive-order-on-immigration-requires-a-log-of-honor-killings

  2. mortimer says

    Mar 7, 2017 at 10:59 pm

    Why are Leftards so DETERMINED to bring JIHADISTS into the US?

    Do they want total CHAOS and SOCIETAL BREAKDOWN? Do they want insurrection and un-governability? Do they think that JIHADISTS are NOT ‘malevolent’?

    (Did I just answer my own questions?)

    • john spielman says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 7:28 am

      they are brain dead “useful idiots” (as Joseph Stalin said)

      • Jeanette says

        Mar 8, 2017 at 10:49 am

        They are evil monsters who aren’t smart enough to see that the jihadis won’t just kill the hated conservatives; they will kill the liberals who brought them in, too.

    • TR says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 2:56 pm

      The Leftards have been bringing in JIHADISTS into the USA for 50 years that I personally know of.
      Those were transported across the Canada/USA border – Peace Bridge to attend meetings and conferences with the SDS who shared a bond of Solidarity with them. Yes, It is correct to say The Old Hardliner Weathermen, Obama’s friends.

  3. Pandit Technology says

    Mar 7, 2017 at 11:07 pm

    I am new to this site, but am very happy that there are folks ( in unfortunate minority) who are speaking the truth, against all odds…Let Truth Prevail…. I absolutely agree with Mr Spencer. An a Hindu, who studied in a Christian convent in Military Cantt out in Delhi, India. I can trust my kids in care of God fearing Christians, Hindus, Bhuddhist, Sikhs, Jains, etc and even the most radical Atheist. But never ever with a good Muslim A good Muslim who follows Koran, will not be good for my kids, as he / she can justify any depravity based on Koran against Kafirs (non muslims). My kids can follow any religion or not at all, except ISLAM.My 2 cents. More power to Mr. Spencer, may his tribe increase, for the good of our kids and their kids, and progress of the humanity Amen

    • Jeanette says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 10:51 am

      Amen to that!

      (And the Hindu, Bhuddist, Sikh, etc. equivalent phrases!)

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 9, 2017 at 12:47 am

      Pandit Technology, I very much agree with your post.

      Welcome to Jihad Watch.

  4. roger woodhouse says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 4:26 am

    The brainwashing which has taken place in the Western world since 9/11isall but complete.The leftwing media has successfully locked into the mind of its poor stooges the need to eliminate international borders as these controls only interfere with its longterm plan to eliminate the nation state.By allowing uncontrolled immigration this speeds up the process.It is happening at an alarming rate in Europe.Britains response was to vote to leave the EU but the dark forces at work are detirmined to overthrow that result.If they are successfull in their aim democracy as we knew it here in Britain is dead.

    • Jeanette says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 10:54 am

      I am so worried about Britain that I can hardly enjoy my beloved British comedies any longer.

      For instance, I see the beautiful hills around Holmfirth, Yorkshire in The Last of the Summer Wine episodes, and envision the area swarming with murderous, pedophile Muslims; it’s enough to make one sick.

      I hope the British know that there are many Americans who are very worried and concerned for them.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 9, 2017 at 12:51 am

        I feel the same way. My mother was English and I still have relatives in England, and I am very concerned.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Mar 9, 2017 at 4:54 am

        If you are a Christian: this is the season of Lent. PRAY! Pray and fast. Get out a map of Britain and pray for the destruction of the spiritual strongholds of Islam that have established themselves in pretty nearly all the towns on the map.

        Pray for those who *are* putting up resistance: for lawyer Katherine Kendal, for Baroness Caroline Cox, for Malcolm Lord Pearson Earl of Rannoch, for Bishop (ret.), Michael Nazir-Ali, for Barnabas Fund members all over the country (look up “Operation Nehemiah”), for the British Pakistani Christian Association, for Gavin Boby and his “Law and Freedom Foundation”, for Paul Weston and Liberty Great Britain, for those British MPs who *do* begin to ‘get’ it about Islam (there really *are* some! – I have been keeping tabs, and writing down their names as they appear), for Tommy Robinson and Pegida UK and the EDL and March For England.

        Pray for the rising of the Island of the Mighty.

  5. Irene Brekelmans says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 5:22 am

    How low has this so called “civilisation” fallen, and may be not fallen, it always may have been this way and never changed. It is like every crazy, kinkiness, cannibalisme, hate , violence, killing, raping gangraping, beheading, it is all coming out of the woodwork. Is this how people have evolved(whished I could write in the style of Mortimer/Gravenimage and a few others, but I don’t own that gift)
    But I think that this is what happens to people who have been so oppressed for a long time, when they get out and are treated well, they start to abuse everything, because they can not handle freedom, they think that freedom gives you a total chance to do anything you please. Freedom comes with responsibilities. And a lot of people luckily know that intuitively. And a lot of muslims know that.
    But it was all a part of a PLAN, and we know the PLAN . You will not take over our countries. Go backl to your country and learn how to be at least a human !!!

    • Jeanette says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 11:00 am

      You left out burning people alive and crucifying small children.

      Mohammed was an evil, murderous pedophile 1,400 years ago. Today, Muslims say they can do no better than to imitate Mohammed as closely as possible.

      Muslims abuse because abuse is allowed and in some instance, even commanded and glorified by their “sacred” text, the Koran.

      Letting them off the hook for ANY reason will just encourage them to continue abusing, so let’s not be thinking “poor little abused Muslims”!!!

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 9, 2017 at 1:03 am

      Irene Brekelmans wrote:

      How low has this so called “civilisation” fallen, and may be not fallen, it always may have been this way and never changed. It is like every crazy, kinkiness, cannibalisme, hate , violence, killing, raping gangraping, beheading, it is all coming out of the woodwork. Is this how people have evolved(whished I could write in the style of Mortimer/Gravenimage and a few others, but I don’t own that gift)
      But I think that this is what happens to people who have been so oppressed for a long time, when they get out and are treated well, they start to abuse everything, because they can not handle freedom, they think that freedom gives you a total chance to do anything you please. Freedom comes with responsibilities. And a lot of people luckily know that intuitively. And a lot of muslims know that.
      ……………………………………

      Hi, Irene. Thank you so much for the compliment; and I very much agree with you about Mortimer.

      Fine post–but I don’t believe Muslims are acting like savages because they have been oppressed back in Dar-al-Islam–this is how Muslims are taught to behave, oppressing, raping, and slaughtering Infidels until we submit to Islam.

      I agree that Muslims plan to take over our civilized societies–it is important that we finally take a stand against it. I hope we are starting to see it, and that the Trump ban is a start.

  6. RichardL says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 6:05 am

    I have not quite understood Trump’s tactic here. It is totally clear that some court will nix the new executive order. The left is simply against border controls and they will certainly find a judge.

    Hawaii will go to the 9th again.

    Same outcome.

    Trump seems to be playing a PR game here.

  7. duh swami says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 6:07 am

    Sorry, I don’t trust Donald when it comes to Islam and Muslims…Half measures will not make America safe from Allah’s terrorists…

    • Mirren10 says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 6:35 am

      True, but a half loaf is better than no bread at all.

      • Somebody says

        Mar 8, 2017 at 8:16 am

        But it makes one side of islam stronger vs the other. Trump is playing against shia however sunni islam is the most dangerous one. Some of the sunni countries are Saudi, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan etc.

        Very wrong strategy and I am writing this from Turkey sunni muslim country. As far as I understand there is a very strong support within the US for sunni/wahhabi islam, it is clear as sun. You need to inform American people about this duality. Meanwhile I hate all of islam without differentiating.

        • Jeanette says

          Mar 8, 2017 at 11:09 am

          No; we need to inform American women about how bad and how common Muslim female genital mutilation is, along with the fact that influential Muslims are currently pushing for all women and girls IN THE WORLD to be forcibly mutilated by the Muslims.

          Once most women in America realize that Huma Abedin’s mother writes and publishes books supporting the mutilation of all females in the world, and that Hillary Clinton and the media approved such mutilation by hiding it, we will see a quick halt to the Muslim problem in America as non-Muslim American women are not going to put up with themselves or their daughters being butchered.

          This subject has long been covered up by the mainstream media to protect the Muslims, but I am beginning to see more and more about it in various places now.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 8, 2017 at 1:23 pm

          “As far as I understand there is a very strong support within the US for sunni/wahhabi islam, it is clear as sun.”

          Then you understand nothing.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 9, 2017 at 1:18 am

          Somebody wrote:

          But it makes one side of islam stronger vs the other. Trump is playing against shia however sunni islam is the most dangerous one. Some of the sunni countries are Saudi, Qatar, Turkey, Pakistan etc.
          …………………………….

          Somebody, the only majority Shia country on that list is Iran–all of the others are majority Sunni. Libya, Sudan, Somalia, and Sudan are almost entirely Sunni, and Shia just make up a minority in Syria and Yemen.

          More:

          Very wrong strategy and I am writing this from Turkey sunni muslim country. As far as I understand there is a very strong support within the US for sunni/wahhabi islam, it is clear as sun.
          …………………………….

          Somebody, you are grievously mistaken. The average American understands *nothing* about the Sunni/Shia split, and many don’t even know it exists. Fifteen years ago I knew almost nothing about it myself, save as an obscure point of history.

          The idea that there is strong support for Wahhabism in the US is *way* off base. Firstly, just as with Shiism, most Americans know nothing about it. Most of the few who are familiar with the term at all assume it refers to not allowing women to drive, and are very much against it.

          I certainly agree with you that the ban should be extended, but just getting this passed is politically difficult, and will be a good start.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 9, 2017 at 1:26 am

          Somebody, most Americans still consider Turkey a “moderate” Muslim country, and are unaware of the changes there over th past decade.

          This has nothing to do with ‘money being our god’, which is utterly false.

          You wrote:

          & To R.Spencer why don’t you write anything against Fethullah Movement of USA (The most dangerous islamic organisation) Did they bribe Jihad Watch as well …
          ……………………………

          I’m sorry–this is just *grotesque* calumny to claim that Robert Spencer, of all people, is on the take from Islamists.

          All you had to do was take a glance at the archives to see that this is completely incorrect, in any case. Jihad Watch has written about Gülen many times:

          “Fethullah Gulen: the Turkish Khomeini?”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2009/05/fethullah-gulen-the-turkish-khomeini

          “Fitzgerald: Ayatollah Khomeini and Fethullah Gulen”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/fitzgerald-ayatollah-khomeini-and-fetullah-gulen

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 9, 2017 at 1:39 am

        Mirren10 wrote:

        True, but a half loaf is better than no bread at all.
        …………………

        Very true, Mirren. I hope the ban is extended; but even this alone will keep us somewhat safer, and may inspire other nations to do the same.

    • RichardL says

      Mar 8, 2017 at 10:37 am

      I trust the Donald that he wants to win and win big. To win against islam, he must fight it as a whole. He will do the right thing.

      • Jeanette says

        Mar 8, 2017 at 11:11 am

        Agree!

        And Donald’s IQ is so much higher than so many of the Muslims, whose parents were first cousins.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Mar 9, 2017 at 5:04 am

        Tweet him. Tell him exactly that. “To win against islam, you must fight it as a whole.”

        Tell him that the ummah plays goodcop badcop. He MUST NOT be fooled into siding with this or that faction. The *whole* Ummah, *every* majority-Muslim and officially-Islamic OIC country (I say “majority-Muslim and officially-Islamc’ in order to exclude India and Russia), *every* mohammedan entity, whether Sunni or Shiite, is deadly-dangerous. No different from North Korea, except that some of them are much richer, and a lot slicker and sneakier, therefore more dangerous.

        He may have to disengage America, so to speak, in stages; but the disengagement must be total, and final, if it is to be effective. NO MORE ‘aid’. No more trade. No more Muslim students studying in the USA and engaging in campus dawa and marriage jihad. Cut the bastards off. One by one by one, shut down the embassies., or scale back to a bare minimum (e.g. the American shopfront in Egypt should be just sufficient – with exclusively non-Muslim staff, carefully security vetted – to process asylum and migration applications from COPTIC CHRISTIANS…and from them, alone).

        There has been so much hooh-hah in response to the current *very lmited* set of restrictions, that it can hardly get any worse, if *all* the majority-Islam-dominated countries were put on the ban list… which is where they belong, yes, and the Abominable House of Saud should be right at the top of the list, after all, most of the 9/11 attackers were *from Saudi Arabia* and their mastermind Osama Bin Laden was too.

        There are *plenty* of non-Muslim countries in the world, with which to engage in profitable trade. Notably India. The infidel world has enough oil and other sources of energy, with which to get by, without Saudi Arabia and Iran. And free people would rather *walk*, or ride a bicycle, if the price of having cheap oil for a car, is … Jihad terrorism and Muslim immigration-invasion.

  8. Stephanie says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 9:49 am

    ‘Muslimban in Kuwait’ for security reason

    Februar 5, 2017

    https://indexexpurgatorius.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/muslimban-in-kuwait/

  9. Stephanie says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 9:51 am

    NO OUTCRY!

    Here a list of all the Muslim countries that ban Israeli Jews https://sunnah.com/bukhari/56/138-139 :

    Syria
    Iran
    Iraq
    Yemen
    Libya
    Algeria
    Bangladesh
    Brunei
    Kuwait
    Lebanon
    Malaysia
    Oman
    Pakistan
    Sudan
    Saudi Arabia
    United Arab Emirates

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/13066/heres-list-all-muslim-countries-ban-jews-michael-qazvini

  10. Linnte says

    Mar 8, 2017 at 10:10 pm

    Thanks Mr. Spencer!

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