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UK: Police raid address where London jihadi rented car, multiple arrests

Mar 23, 2017 12:28 am By Robert Spencer

Apparently he was no “lone wolf,” but had considerable support within the community.

“Dozens of armed police swoop on address in Birmingham ‘where car used in London terror attacks was rented from’ and ‘take a number of people into custody,'” by Rebecca Taylor, Mailonline, March 23, 2017:

Armed police have been involved in a raid at a residential property near to a curry house in Birmingham this evening, closing off part of the city for more than two hours.

Dozens of officers, some response and some with weapons, were seen swooping an address near to the Bearwood part of the city this evening.

Hagley Road was closed for a period of time and then reopened. BBC Newsnight has claimed the vehicle used in the London terror attacks could have been rented from the same road.

The road is said to have closed at 11pm and reopened by 2am, with witnesses in the area saying people had been taken away by the address.

They believe the officers may have been from a counter terrorism unit.

West Midlands Police gave a short statement earlier, which read: ‘There is an ongoing police operation, no further details are being given at this stage.’…

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  1. Michael says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 12:33 am

    Sounds like one of those Methodists, disguised as a Quaker, disguised as an Asian … not jihad or anything. Nothing to do with Islam or the Koran.

    • The Confessions says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 1:51 am

      Exactly. Violent jihad and Islam have nothing to do with Islam.

      =================================
      https://theconfessionsweb.wordpress.com

      • balam says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 5:09 am

        Just like PORK has nothing to do with the PIGS!!!!

    • Robert says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 2:10 am

      Islam the religion of peace but with more than 100 times called for the Jihad in the Qoran itself, where is the “peace”?

      • Mira Chaikin says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 2:34 am

        It chronicles some fighting that went on in the last parts of the Quran. Most of the people in Arabia and near about were Heathen, worshipping a rock and there were some People of the Book, Christians and Jewd who apparently didn’t or couldn’t get them to be believers. The Prophet Mohammad married a Jewish woman among others and outreached to the Christians also as he operating under the guidance of the Angel Gabriel. This went down fine at first and then it didn’t so push came to shove fighting started so that is what that is all about. And after all, the Christians and Jews allowed the Heathens to worship a rock. They were lax in their responsibilities as righteous people, as far as Mohammad was concerned.. so that’s what happened then. The Quran kind of leaves it up to God as to whether the whole world becomes Muslim territory so you have to fight them on it. Doctrine-wise Jesus leads in Yom A Din or Judgment Day though they tried to spin that to not mean that. They can’t win but like Hitler and others, they can hurt a lot of people. Somebody distracted me and I stopped reading the Quran before I got to the end of the book, the parts that are badly spun out of context.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 5:08 am

          “Married a Jewish woman”.

          You are referring to Safiyya? The 17 year old girl that he *raped* on the very same night of the day on which he and his banditti had had her husband, Kinana of Khaybar, *tortured to death*?

          Then there was Rayhana, who was basically kidnapped and raped and stuffed into his harem, *exactly* like Yazidi and Christian girls in Iraq today abused by ISIS, or the Chibok girls who were kidnapped by Boko Haram.

          Don’t even *pretend* to represent those’ relationships as being good for the women involved. If yoiu had a scintilla of empathy and imagination you would know that you would HATE to be treated as Safiyya and Rayhana were treated, and as the many, many, many other women and girls seized and raped and sold as slaves and tormented and beaten and abused till their minds break and they ‘submit’, and are used as breeding stock by vicious Muslim rapists.

        • Paul says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 8:08 am

          You revere an insane and bloodthirsty paedophile who was (rightly)
          convinced he had encountered something evil at Mount Hira at the
          start of his ‘revelations’, and who tried to kill himself three times, sadly
          with no success. You are totally sick.Your words are utterly irrelevant.

        • mortimer says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 8:11 am

          Mira, The Koran is two books that contradict each other on the issue of violence and whether Jews and Christians go to paradise. The Medina Koran prescribes genocide and misogyny and Jew hatred. Christians are also targeted for extermination and enslavement.

          The Westminster terrorist no doubt knew WELL that K.9.5 (the verse of the sword in the Medina Koran) abrogates all the reconciliatory verses of the Mecca Koran, making Islam COMPLETELY INTOLERANT.

        • Paul Ashley says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 8:36 am

          “I stopped reading the Quran before I got to the end of the book, the parts that are badly spun out of context.”

          If you stopped reading, how do you know they are spun out of context? Instead of yours, I’ll take my own counsel, as I have read the entire tedious and repetitive Quran, and that of experts like Mr. Spencer, and more importantly, former Muslims who know Islam through living it.

        • Jeanette says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 9:32 am

          Pre-Muslim Arabs worshipped a pantheon of about 300 gods and goddesses, similar to ancient Rome and Greece.

          In other words, they were pagans.

          They would have been better off to remain pagans.

        • Mira Chaikin says

          Apr 8, 2017 at 7:00 pm

          You guys, along with your ISIS and Al Qaeda buddies have been reading and worshipping x-rated renditions of the Quran and Commentary. Recently, there was an alleged ancient copy of a Bible from Turkey that claimed that Jesus wasn’t crucified. People from that part of the world love to write and tweek religions. These were like magazine articles at the time. Some people were probably calling the Prophet a wimp or a pussy because he was merciful to his adversary’s wife and to others from the point of view of that period of time, so one of his followers embellished his dark side. Standard fare.

          If you want deprogram ISIS and Al Qaeda people, I can tell you how to do it. If not, a lot of people will get killed. On both sides. People you care about, people they care about.

          I was an Ancient Hebrew, Early Christian and Early Moslem in Other Lives besides having lived in India, obviously and American Indian.

          I am baptized as Presbyterian, Bethleham belongs to Christians and yes, there is a serious problem with Jihad shitheads in Europe who will not be able to do that here in the United States.

      • A Harris USA says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 3:57 pm

        Robert, it seems to me that the British have no idea what it is the Koran teaches. I listen to the stupid PM, and how she morns the loss of her own, as well as one American, and his wife. I do buy not by this sobbing BS. If she really cared about the welfare of the British people, she would deliver a fire filled message, telling her people, and the world, that this will not be happening again. That all the filthy invaders, are gone. All remaining ones will be vetted, and possibly removed from the nation. Mosques will be closed until we can determine they are not breeding this terror. Massive monetary amounts will be given to those who turn in suspected ISIS followers. England will become England. She is a weak Muslim loving fool.. More terror to come!!!

    • Mira Chaikin says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 2:35 am

      Some of them are like that and some of them have beefs.

      • Aloha Akbar says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 2:47 am

        Well naturally, they’re not allowed to have porks.
        🙂

      • Aloha Akbar says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 2:48 am

        Well naturally. They’re not allowed to have porks.
        🙂

    • Salome says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 2:45 am

      Not in Birmingstan.

    • DFD says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 2:58 am

      Michael says: “Sounds like one of those Methodists, disguised as a Quaker, disguised as an Asian …Nothing to do with Islam or the Koran.”

      I was thinking more along the lines of a Hamish, you know, the beard…

      BTW, you mentioned Islam and the Koran. Do they have anything to do with one another?

    • frederick King says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 3:17 am

      White right wing radical.

    • Peter Lamb says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 4:17 am

      Brilliant!

    • JIMJFOX says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 5:15 am

      Be fair! He was following the example of Muhammad, The Doctrine of the Perfect Man (Al-Insan al-Kamil). . . . . more accurately, a psychopathic genocidal maniac.
      http://www.israinternational.com/the-perfect-man.html

      “Prophet Muhammad is the ideal leader and it is the duty of every Muslim to emulate him. The Prophet Muhammad is a model of correct attitude and behavior as described to us in the Quran, as he is considered the living example of the Quran. Our relationship to the Prophet, therefore, according to the doctrine of the Perfect Man is as a teacher and student. Thus anyone trying to achieve a Perfect level should closely examine the life and actions of the Prophet. The Prophet’s life has been recorded better than that of any other human being who has achieved the state of Perfect Man, therefore he is the best model of the spiritual life.”

      • DFD says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 2:55 pm

        Shouldn’t that be Al-Insane A|l-Camel?

    • Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 7:33 am

      How about this- All done by Teresa May & various others to malign Islam.

      Sarcasm off/

      This is what many keep telling about 9/11 also.

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 9:16 am

      Of course it has nothing to do with Islam. Don’t want to hurt their delicate feelings, do we?

      Muslims are the most inhumane of the human species. In fact, they have no feeling to hurt.

    • Frank says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 10:04 pm

      Is am is Not a peaceful religion. Can you compare a Muslim with a Buddhist ? Their so called religion says kill all non believers and so far they have been doing so. UK wake up and take them down peramantly.

    • jim hane says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 11:44 pm

      I’m in touch with the people in Australia, including Harry Richardson, from whose site you go to the petition.

      In fact, another person very involved had the response below – which is what led me to wonder if it would not be better to establish priorities in law.

      In the eighties an action was taken in Australia through the courts to de-register Scientology.
      It failed because the word/term “religion” was not sufficiently defined in legal terms to provide a yardstick

      Though slight improvement in the definition has been made, the existing definition/ description or, more importantly, the absence of one, remains a stumbling block and a legal loophole you can drive a truck through.

      In my view, under the law we have three options:

      1. Suck it up and accept the status quo; (this option is unacceptable to most)

      2. Change the relevant section (Sect 116) of the Constitution of the Commonwealth; or. (this requires a national referendum but would offer a permanent solution to the issue)

      3. Attack the issue separately in each State and Territory within the Commonwealth where each has their own separate constitution apart from the Constitution of the Commonwealth. (this option is akin to attempting to herd 1,000 sheep on foot without a sheepdog or two as your assistant)
      Conclusion.

      There must be a referendum to change the Constitution of the Commonwealth to define in detail precisely in what manner it is and is not acceptable for any religion to believe, behave and teach.

      The definition should include a prohibition for any religion to ignore any law of the Commonwealth, including paedophilia, sedition and treason (or words to that effect).

      Penalty for failure to do so is DE-REGISTRATION and exposure to the full force of the law as a political or criminal entity as far as it applies.

      My research leads me to opine that nothing less may solve the problem.

  2. Dry Academy says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 12:49 am

    Near a curry house, imagine my surprise. As Rowan Atkinson once joked, “I like curry, but now that we have the recipe, is there really any reason for them to stay?”

    • Mark says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 2:17 am

      Pakistani curry houses have nothing on a decent Indian curry anyway.

      • Robin Pearson says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 3:55 am

        Most ‘Indian’ curry houses in the UK are actually run by Bangladeshi Muslims. Check the menu: beef, chicken and lamb all covered in a variety of sauces. Where’s the pork? A proper Hindustani run curry house would of course not feature any meat at all. All the ignorant Brits who’s favorite food is an ‘Indian’ takeaway are supporting the Jihad.

      • Carolyne says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 9:17 am

        I don’t even like curry. It can clear out your sinuses, though.

    • Angemon says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 4:27 am

      XD

  3. gravenimage says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 12:50 am

    UK: Police raid address where London jihadi rented car, multiple arrests
    ………………..

    *Good*. Investigate his family, his Mosque, and all of his associates.

    • DFD says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 2:51 am

      Graven,

      You said: “….*Good*. Investigate his family, his Mosque, and all of his associates.”

      The bit with the associates is somewhat problematic. Within month practically all Muslims in the UK will have to be investigated. Manpower, buildings, information technology, exchange between the investigators… If only 2 investigators per Muslim and we will need a few million investigators. Even though that would exclude babies, toddlers and geriatrics from the investigation.

      Problematic.

      That was meant to be funny. On second thoughts, whilst writing this, I remembered a statement by a security agent who was either Austrian or German, he said that in order to survey only the suspected jihadis in WE Europe would require between 800,000 and 1.5 million extra officers. That was about a year ago.

    • William Hanson says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 5:31 am

      They will all say “but he was a lovely boy”

    • roger woodhouse says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 9:03 am

      Yes but the Chief Constable says he acted ‘alone’ inspite of announcing7 arrests!He did explain that ‘alone ‘meant he drove the car himself!.Difficult for two people to drive the same car.He did have the tacit support of about two thousand mussies in Birmingham though.

    • grahm diam says

      Mar 24, 2017 at 11:18 am

      and then deport anyone associated with him

  4. common sense says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:01 am

    How many more jihadis are dug into places UK security forces won’t go or dont know about?

    Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil.- Thoma Mann

    • jayell says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 3:09 am

      I’ve said it before, and so have many others. Events over the years have proved that you can’t trust ANY of them. They’re not here in the UK because they enjoy our company, they’re here for what they can get (“I’ve come for a better life”), and sadly that does not include respecting the people of the UK or what the people of the UK stand for. Otherwise, they would dress as the British dress, all speak English (a lot of them can”t or don’t bother), obey the law and not clog up out prisons or start trying to impose their own native laws of religious/cultural practices and expect us to put up with it, they would not brazenly make themselves a financial and social burden on their adopted ‘fellow citizens’ and expect us to kowtow to their every whim, they would not attempt to embezzle or misappropriate public property or facilities for their own purposes (e.g., schools or even public swimming baths) and that would never ever even dream of abusing the daughters of their hosts in the most despicable, repulsive ways imaginable. This is not a ‘right wing’ rant. This is just a restatement of the sort of standards of common decency, responsibility, consideration and civility we would normally expect from citizens of the UK, and the fact that it has to be said and the fact that we have to report this vile atrocity in a civilised capital city (along with all the other vile atrocities from the same source) just demonstrates the appalling, toxic failure of a certain newly-acquired sector of the (sic) ‘British Community’ (if that’s how we’re supposed to believe they see themselves!). Anyone who seriously believes that it’s ‘Business As Usual’ in the UK anymore is a deluded fool, and it’s interesting to see the old wartime cliches coming out again. Not surprising because, clearly, a war is EXACTLY what we’ve got.

      • Jerry says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 4:05 am

        Sounds a lot like our illegal hispanic immigration problem out here in the former colonies. Except, of course, that the Hispanics don’t generally engage in terrorism. But otherwise it sounds exactly the same.

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 8:26 pm

          It doesn’t sound to me at *all* the same.

          I’m not an American, but have there have been any cases of Hispanic illegal immigrants driving cars into large groups of people in order to murder them ? Attacking them with machetes? Stabbing them ? Whilst shrieking “Viva Zapata”, or perhaps “Death to gringos” ?

          If that is not the case, your comparison is spurious, to say the least.

      • Save UK says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 7:25 am

        To fix the problem, you must start with the gullible lefties.

      • roger woodhouse says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 9:09 am

        Very well said.We are not falling for the tired old cliches May is spouting from the usual script.Hewas ‘influenced by international terrorism’is the latest spin they are using to detract from the real reason.The word ‘Islam’ is never mentioned now.

        • Jeanette says

          Mar 23, 2017 at 9:51 am

          But when May and the other elites are endangered, how quickly the authorities label the attack “terrorism”!

          Usually, there is denial that the attack could possibly have been terrorism, sometimes continuing for days.

      • common sense says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 10:11 am

        Not a rant at all Jayell, a sober observation on you part and factual. Bravo.

      • Fr Christopher Kelley says

        Mar 23, 2017 at 1:25 pm

        And Rowan Williams did not recognize it. Alas. British “Liberalism” has failed the nation.

  5. Mira Chaikin says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 1:38 am

    We’re ready to go to War. They went after the Parliament.

  6. Imnokuffar says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 3:03 am

    After I heard the news I went to my local bar in France and told a young, French barmaid the news.

    Her response was “its a good way to regulate the population”.

    My outraged response was ” so you approve of the terrorist attacks in Nice and Paris? “.

    Her response was ” you take these things too seriously”.

    I repeat she is a French citizen and is not a Muslim.

    With attitudes like these, those of indifference, cynicism, apathy, fear and stupidity prevalent amongst large percentages of the populations of all the countries of the west – particularly amongst the young ….

    They hide behind the notions of multiculturalism and social cohesion as ideological props and take any rational argument against Islam as evidence of your inherently racist attitudes.

    They, of course, are perfect examples of tolerance, anti racism and ?????

    • Rufolino says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 3:15 am

      As someone just posted a few minutes ago (and it bears repeating):

      When evil is tolerated, tolerance becomes a crime.

      • Minutes1234 says

        Jun 19, 2017 at 2:19 pm

        It becomes treason.

        I am English and have just today witnessed another attack on France where I live.

        In these circumstances and others I was supposed to participate in one minutes silence to grieve for those killed and injured in the Rendell attack.

        One man who finally went mad or sane according to your definitions.

        This is what is coming.

        NB I was in my local bar in a small town in France when a Muslim in full costume came in……..

        I am getting heartily sick of this.

    • Shmooviyet says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 3:45 am

      Wow– the notion of “regulating the population” is ultra-tolerant! What a mindless, heartless twit. Probably believes her views are very modern.

      Same attitude here, in a terribly tolerant US city, particularly among the 18-35 range. It’s just too easy to let others do the thinking for them, and leaves them free for more virtue-signalling and freeway-blocking.
      We over-40 taxpayers are simply out of touch.

    • M says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 5:31 am

      Western civilization has reached the point of insanity and self-destruction. The sane minorities in each state need to find safe territory on which to regroup like central and eastern Europe. It will take generations for this tide to be turned again.

  7. Baucent says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:05 am

    Over on the BBC they are reporting very little about the attacker and who he is likely to be. The tactic seems to be to flood the story with details of “how, when and where” and minimize mention of the “who”.

    In fact one Labour politician was quoted as saying it was better to say little about the attacker as that would make him a martyr, rather the press should report only the heroic stories of those who helped victims.

    The problem with this argument is, it is a thinly veiled attempt to remove “Islam” and “Muslim” from the public consciousness of who was responsible. They want the threat to be vague, not crystal clear.

  8. Beagle says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:06 am

    Let’s not jump to conclusions about what motivated this disadvantaged immigrant. Could have been economic hardship, marginalization, Islamophobia, discrimination, a tennis shoe swirl, UK foreign policy, an Internet video, or pork products.

    But it was probably drawings or cartoons. If only intolerant people would stop drawing or making cartoons.

    And lo, the backlash. Muslims are the real victims here.

    Dump truckloads of balloons, flowers, stuffed animals, and candles. Have a tolerance march.

    Rinse, repeat.

  9. John Donaghue says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:31 am

    The attack in London is horrific, but even more scary is the reporting of this event
    in the media. “Terrorist Attack” was widely reported, but even after the police statement
    pointed to ISIS, the media continued to avoid the word ‘Islamic’. What kind of political
    correctness is this? God forbid that we offend Muslims buy implicating their ‘peaceful’
    ‘religion’. It is neither.

  10. Phil says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:35 am

    They thought that banning Donald Trump, Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from their country would protect them from jihadi hatred of everyone. Will the Brits admit they were wrong and we were right now?

  11. Imnokuffar says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 4:45 am

    The policeman who was murdered was unarmed and 2 others were seriously wounded, from this I ascertain that they were unarmed as well.

    Why ?

    What use are policemen who cannot even protect themselves let alone others.

    This inflicted by one creature with a knife and a car who murdered and wounded, some seriously many others.

    Now we have the politicians being lauded for attending parliament as usual. These Bravo’s are protected by armed police, military and others.

    WOW !!!!!!!

    They should all be given the Victoria Cross.?

    Meanwhile, due to their inactions and outright deceit over terrorism, immigration, the Muslim problem, the rest of us are at increasing risk.

    However, never mind chin up and forward !!!!!!!?????

    It is “business as usual” as I heard many politicians,the media and other parasites say.

    NB: Nothing from the Muslim Council of GB yet.

  12. lynn says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 5:02 am

    I hear the deafening silence from Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London about so many of his constituents being killed/catastrophically injured…What a caring individual he is

  13. Gamaliel says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:11 am

    I have read two articles on the front page of the New York Times about this attack. Dozens Are Run Down on Bridge; Assailant Dead, Too and U.K. Police Arrest 8 After Attack Outside Parliament. Neither of those articles say anything about the attacker being a Muslim. The fact that he is a Muslim is stated on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. Want to know what is going on in the world, get the Wall Street Journal.

  14. Retired Australian Teacher says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 7:49 am

    Anyone recall ‘Precautionary Principle’ touted by the left ad nauseum when preaching about Anthropological Global Warming.

    In summary, society and government must to everything possible to reduce CO2 emissions, including blackouts and destroying peoples livelihoods. But, the principle must not be aimed at religious terrorists in case racism is advanced.

    Leftist rational (propaganda). Environment = divinity while Human = evil.

    http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/precautionary-principle.html

  15. mortimer says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:03 am

    HINT TO POLICE: Jihad is a COMMUNAL OBLIGATION for Muslims.

    (Oh police and intelligence agencies reading this: the word for today is ‘COMMUNAL’.)

    You’re welcome.

  16. mortimer says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:13 am

    BRITISH LEADERS! Time for you to say it like it is:

    ISLAMIC TERRORISM … ISLAMIC TERRORISM … ISLAMIC TERRORISM!

    Say that 1,000 times.

  17. Stan says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 8:59 am

    So what is his name?

    • David M says

      Mar 23, 2017 at 9:23 am

      They won’t tell us. Maybe they think if they don’t tell us we won’t realise he was a Muslim, or if they wait long enough we will have forgotten all about this.

  18. Carolyne says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:46 am

    A word to Britain: You have voted to leave the European Union, but your leaders, especially your non-elected House of Lords, (Those chinless, bulging eyed lot who sit in Parliament merely because they were born into an incestuous enormously wealthy family) and don’t anything but delay your leaving that bunch of toads. You have given your fate over to a bunch who have no interest in
    England, but merely wish to implement a new global order of which you have been suckered into. Leave this bunch. Stand up for yourselves. Expel the devils living among you. Be British. At last, be British.

    Start criticizing your government and the behavior of Muslims. They have taken that right from you. They can’t put you all in jail.

  19. Jeanette says

    Mar 23, 2017 at 9:52 am

    West Midlands Police gave a short statement earlier, which read: ‘There is an ongoing police operation, no further details are being given at this stage.’…

    … and in other news, 85,000 Muslims arrived in Great Britain this morning …”

    • Minutes1234 says

      Jun 19, 2017 at 3:15 pm

      Great?

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