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UK woman opened home to Muslim “12-year-old refugee,” he was really adult jihadi, said “I’ll kill you all”

Mar 2, 2017 11:51 am By Robert Spencer

“Julie said she later found that Abdul had been visiting extremist websites on his mobile phone and an interpreter relayed messages, sent to family and friends, where he had been joking about tricking the British government into thinking he was a child.”

The British government was doubtless too busy hounding foes of jihad terror and banning foreign ones from entering the country to pay much attention to a trivial matter such as trying to prevent Islamic jihadi “refugee children” from terrorizing Britons.

“She later found out he was not the person he said he was and had been arrested while posing as a child refugee in Belgium.”

But he still got into Britain by posing as a child again. It would have been “Islamophobic” to keep him out, right? In the same vein, Britain has a steadily lengthening record of admitting jihad preachers without a moment of hesitation. Syed Muzaffar Shah Qadri’s preaching of hatred and jihad violence was so hardline that he was banned from preaching in Pakistan, but the UK Home Office welcomed him into Britain.

The UK Home Office recently admitted Shaykh Hamza Sodagar into the country, despite the fact that he has said: “If there’s homosexual men, the punishment is one of five things. One – the easiest one maybe – chop their head off, that’s the easiest. Second – burn them to death. Third – throw ’em off a cliff. Fourth – tear down a wall on them so they die under that. Fifth – a combination of the above.”

May’s government also recently admitted two jihad preachers who had praised the murderer of a foe of Pakistan’s blasphemy laws. One of them was welcomed by the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Meanwhile, the UK banned three bishops from areas of Iraq and Syria where Christians are persecuted from entering the country. And of course, May banned me from entering the country for saying: “[Islam] is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers,” which is like banning me for saying humans need oxygen to breathe.

“Mother-of-two reveals she opened her home to Afghan ’12-year-old refugee’ but was shocked when he turned out to be a grown man who threatened to KILL her family,” by Alex Matthews, Mailonline, March 1, 2017:

A mother-of-two opened up her home to a grown man posing as an Afghan ’12-year-old refugee’ who later attacked her family.

The woman said she lives in fear after the man, who said his name was Abdul, threatened to kill her family after he was arrested for assaulting her relatives.

During an emotional interview on ITV’s Loose Women, the mother, who was renamed Julie for anonymity reasons, has now called on the Government to carry out proper age checks on refugees coming to the UK.

She told presenters Ruth Langsford and Saira Khan that she had taken in the asylum seeker after being asked to look after him for a ‘few nights’ by social services.

Julie recalled: ‘When I walked into the room, I didn’t think he was the person they were referring to. He looked about 19. He was very quiet and very timid.

‘I didn’t want to hurt his feelings, but I don’t usually take teenagers. I take younger children. But I just thought he needed a home and didn’t think anymore of it.’

Despite her initial misgivings regarding the boy’s age, Julie generously opened up her home up to the youngster.

However, she became suspicious of his true identity after a dental examination.

She said: ‘We went to a dental appointment and the dentist age-assessed him between 18 and 21.

‘They had to give him the benefit of the doubt and because he claimed he was 12 and the dentist aged him as 21, they placed him at 16. They averaged him.’

Julie said that at first her new arrival was pleasant and well behaved, but soon he turned nasty.

She later found out he was not the person he said he was and had been arrested while posing as a child refugee in Belgium.

She said: ‘He was lovely in the beginning. Very humble, very polite, very thoughtful. But as the weeks went by I started to notice a change in him. I was comparing him to my boy and he was more mature than my boy was.

‘He had been arrested in Belgium. He had a bone density x-ray there and they said ‘‘you aren’t 12’’ and sent him on his way.

‘I found out that he claimed asylum there as 17-year-old. I couldn’t understand why that information wasn’t passed on to me.’

‘I became very frightened, he became quite menacing after I set up a Facebook account for him.

‘I was hoping to help him find his family and then shortly after he was receiving these phone calls where his manner would change dramatically and he became intimidating and quite threatening.

Julie said she felt scared to be alone with Abdul in her own home but didn’t want another family placed with such a temperamental and possibly dangerous man.

She said: ‘I was concerned because if they asked to re-home him, I didn’t want him to go to another family because he wasn’t who he claimed to be.

‘I can remember one day he went up to the fridge and he was looking at a photo of me and my daughter, as if he was trying to intimidate me through my daughter.

‘My daughter was stood there and I can remember thinking, ‘‘don’t turn around’’. I knew and I could see what he was doing in the corner of my eye, but I kept on wiping up.

‘He walked right up behind me and I can still feel his breath on the back of my neck and I can remember feeling petrified.’

Julie said she later found that Abdul had been visiting extremist websites on his mobile phone and an interpreter relayed messages, sent to family and friends, where he had been joking about tricking the British government into thinking he was a child.

She said: ‘I was so shocked. I can remember thinking, ”Oh my god! Who is this person?’’

A permanent home was found for Abdul and it was then that he started to lash out at Julie and her family.

She said: ‘There were other homes that had been offered to him and it wasn’t where he wanted to go.

‘When another home came up he became very aggressive about it.

‘He started [attacking] verbally and then a member of my family got in between us, in fear of me getting hurt, and then he pushed them back and started punching.

‘I ran to get the police and I was just pleading with him to calm down and just said ”why are you doing this?”.

Abdul was arrested for the assault but now Julie lives in fear of him coming back and attacking her family

She said: ‘He did make threats to us before the police took him, to me and the children. He did say when he was removed: ‘I’ll kill you all. I know where you live’

‘I’m very frightened since he was removed. I know that he’s not being properly watched and he could at any time, turn up at my house. I panic if I’m not at school on time.

‘He knows the school runs, he’s knows everything. We changed the locks at the house and I’m constantly vigilant of everything.’…

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  1. Screeminmeeme says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 11:57 am

    One more reason why British citizens should be allowed to own guns.
    I would never permit anyone to intimidate or threaten me in my own home.
    He’d be soon planted in my garden and on his way to his 72 virgins.

    • Manuel 2 Paleologus says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 12:58 pm

      Amin. Amin. Amin! It is unacceptable to hear these incredible stories of good people being manipulated by their morons politicians that islam is a ‘religion’ of peace.
      This is what is happening in most of the Western European countries, which opened their borders to muslims.
      I am sorry for the family.

    • jayell says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      The trouble is that not only would a proportion of the proper indigenous Brits get guns, but more likely most of the other lot as well since a lot of them come from backgrounds where this is the norm; and they’d probably be more likely to be carrying them around most of the time, to judge by what goes on in ghetto areas at the moment. Muslims and other ethnic minorities are known to be illegally in possession of ‘offensive weapons’ already (usually knives), and with the present PC namb-pamby attitudes towards these ‘poor victimised minorities’ (sic) there would most likely be a worsening of the current situation. London’s Met Police are about to vote on carrying guns regularly, and if they do, this will be the end of a fine British tradition of policing by consent. I think this is supposed to be one of the benefits of a multicultural society.

      • Carolyne says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 11:11 am

        Are you saying, then, that if the honest and upright British people were to be allowed to obtain guns, then so would the criminals, mostly Muslims? They already have them, as well as knives, swords and any other means by which they can kill. So the idea is to require the English to remain unarmed. Not a good plan.

        In fact, not all British officers are unarmed. As recently as May, 2016, a man was shot dead in Kent by police officers in response to the killing of an elderly man during a robbery. A substantial proportion of British officers do indeed carry firearms, (17%) and they carry them in holsters just like American officers. They also carry tasers and spray cans of mace,as well as retractable batons. Not exactly “Policing by consent.”
        This “Old” British tradition of not owning firearms was finalized in 1953. Not so old a tradition, after all. . Of course the purpose in disarming the British public was to prevent their having an effective means of opposing an unjust government and the government was afraid of Communism.
        A government afraid of its own people is no government. Our founds had the foresight to understand that a government can become renegade and that the people must have the means to oppose it.
        Presently, I believe we must be armed to prevent a takeover by barbarian Muslims. .I have a gun. I know how to use it. It will never be taken from me.

    • Bill says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 3:07 pm

      If indigenous Brits can get guns, so can others. So that is a legitimate reason for denying them to indigenous Brits? Perhaps the current situation is acceptable to many: the others have the offensive weapons and the indigenous Brits have none. That just reeks of surrender and the criminals know it.

      Criminals always have weapons and find ways to get them, no matter how many laws you put on the books criminalizing that activity. That is one reason why we call them criminals. Requiring law-abiding citizens to be disarmed makes absolutely no sense at all. It leaves the law-abiding at the mercy of their enemies.

      The Met Police can arm all they want. They do not protect England’s citizens now. They will not when they are armed. If they are to carry arms, it is so that they can protect themselves. Even if all of a sudden, emboldened, they were to aggressively police criminal elements, they cannot be everywhere all the time.

      I do not accept that the tradition of policing by consent is a benefit of a multicultural society. The two have nothing to do with each other.

      George Washington said it best: “A free people ought to be armed”.

      • TheOldOligarch says

        Mar 2, 2017 at 4:23 pm

        ”I do not accept that the tradition of policing by consent is a benefit of a multicultural society. The two have nothing to do with each other.”

        I believe he meant that the end of policing by consent is a ‘benefit’ of multiculturalism.

        • Bill says

          Mar 2, 2017 at 4:30 pm

          Thank you. If you are correct, then I would argue the better benefit of England’s transition to a multicultural society would be the allowing of law-abiding citizens to arms themselves in defense of themselves.

  2. Stan Lee says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 12:18 pm

    Typically “Politically Correct” British foreign office at work in this case, doing its usual lousy vetting job of a Muslim migrant!
    When the Brits become realistic about these Muslim “boys” who act angelically to fool gullible Brits whom have the reputation for being suckers for political correctness above all else, British lives will have excluded a great risk which exists in the UK today.
    The UK governments have been such fools for “P.C.” that they have exposed at least two generations of kind and innocent Brit folks to lying, scheming, vicious, Muslims who would slit throats of any non-Muslim at the first opportunity. Dump the “P.C.”and much of present Brit contentions become non-existent.

  3. John A. Marre says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    Liberals are delusional. They really think that they are bringing in kind, gentle people and that the fear of having one’s head cut off stems from hatred for them because of their dark skin and different religion.

  4. Salome says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    ‘They averaged him.’ So, if a jihadi says he’s 5 but the dentist says he’s 25, he’ll be ‘averaged’ and come out at 15. This is lunacy.

  5. Charli Main says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    It seems that this woman was already a member of the Muslim hugging ” lets help the poor “refugees” brigade.

    Hopefully, her eyes have been opened and she has learned her lesson. She and her family would of been safer, if she had agreed to rehome a rattlesnake.

  6. jd says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    Your looking the true cost of freedom and democracy – it is valuable!

    Let’s stop lowering the bar to entry!

    The few have already ruined it – just so know !!

  7. Guest says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    That woman, I’m sorry to say, placed her PC-ness above her healthy maternal instincts:

    ‘When I walked into the room, I didn’t think he was the person they were referring to. He looked about 19. He was very quiet and very timid.

    ‘I didn’t want to hurt his feelings, but I don’t usually take teenagers. I take younger children. But I just thought he needed a home and didn’t think anymore of it.’

    She put herself and her family at risk. Deep down, she *knew* that this jihadi was lying. The authorities are absolutely at fault here, but so is she.

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 11:33 am

      Some cobras likely need homes, lady. You want one?

  8. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    From the article – “Julie said that at first her new arrival was pleasant and well behaved, but soon he turned nasty.”

    That could have been said by the Jews and other non-Muslim inhabitants of Yathrib (now known as Medina).

    And by so many, many, many non-Muslim girls and women suckered into relationships with Mohammedans.

    They forget the wisdom of the Bard – “A man may smile, and smile, and smile… and be a villain”.

    Both as individuals and as a gestalt, Mohammedans and Islam practise deceit. Play nice, to get the suckers in; then… BANG, they turn nasty.

    Islam, under certain circumstances, can be like a psycho serial killer who puts on a suit and takes his intended victim out to dinner at a fancy restaurant… but he’s got the duct tape the knife and the rope in the boot of the car, for afterwards.

  9. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    The instant the dentist figured it out from the teeth, that should have been that.

    OUT with him.

    Mohammedan deceit – its ubiquity, its brazenness – makes my skin crawl.

  10. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    From the article – “She said: ‘He did make threats to us before the police took him, to me and the children. He did say when he was removed: ‘I’ll kill you all. I know where you live’

    ‘I’m very frightened since he was removed. I know that he’s not being properly watched and he could at any time, turn up at my house. I panic if I’m not at school on time.

    ‘He knows the school runs, he’s knows everything. We changed the locks at the house and I’m constantly vigilant of everything.’…”.

    Does she have a dog? If she doesn’t, she should get one. Get two. Big black ones, very protective.

    Self-defence classes; for her whole family.

    She must also contact 1/ Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation” and 2/ Liberty Great Britain and 3/ her MP and the Immigration Minister and the Foreign Minister and complain, and complain, and complain, loud and long. Refuse to be silenced. She’s already calling for proper age checks: good. The *next* thing is to simply demand NO MORE MUSLIMS… and to demand the instant deportation, from England, of any of those already present who, like her former ‘guest’, have gained entry under false pretences.

    Since this has been publicly broadcast then with any luck lots of *other* people who have had similar bitter experiences will sit up and realize – “Hey, I wasn’t the only one”.

    Ideally, *all* the people who’ve been shafted like this – who have experienced mohammedan deceit and mohammedan ‘play nice today, turn vicious tomorrow’ tactics – will *get together* and really start making noise.

    Yes, she was foolish, too, not to trust ‘the gift of fear’, not to allow her commonsense – backed up by the evidence from the dentist! – to get her out of this situation sooner. But it’s a good bet she has been deluged with Islamopuffery since she was a teenager. Very few people can withstand propaganda of the extent and cleverness that petrodollars have been able to buy, right across the western world and beyond it, at *least* since the 1970s and probably starting even earlier than that. The really remarkable thing is that *despite* that deluge of pro-Islam propaganda, there is *anybody* of any age who *hasn’t* swallowed it. Not that there are so many like this woman, but that there still Gavin Bobys and Tommy Robinsons (and not a few others, some of whom post at this forum).

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 11:46 am

      If this woman did some of the tings you suggest, i.e. “NO MORE MUSLIMS” she would be arrested for saying that.

  11. Suebe says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:42 pm

    I just wish that all the liberal politicians would take in these unvetted menren and be as fooled as this woman. Then let their guard down, and something happens that wouldn’t kill them but harm them to the point that they found out they have let in one of Satans demons Then we will see how many doors open for the snakes that they are. WAKE UP WORLD SATAN IS KING OF THE WORLD AND HE IS HERE WITH HIS WELL TRAINED DEMONS.

  12. Suebe says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    I just wish that all the liberal politicians would take in these unvetted menren and be as fooled as this woman. Then let their guard down, and something happens that wouldn’t kill them but harm them to the point that they found out they have let in one of Satans demons Then we will see how many doors open for the snakes that they are.

  13. Angemon says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    She said: ‘We went to a dental appointment and the dentist age-assessed him between 18 and 21.

    ‘They had to give him the benefit of the doubt

    Huh, why?

    • Charli Main says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 5:18 am

      because in Sharia May’s Britain, Muslims have to be pandered too and accommodated at all times.

      Anything less, will get you branded a racist, bigoted, xenophobic Islamophobe and a potential candidate for a visit from Britain’s Sharia compliant police force.

      • Lucia Bartoli says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 1:47 pm

        Hey I’m really okay being branded as anything like islamophobic, xenophobic, etc
        I don’t care what I’m called
        Since Brits may not own firearms, I suggest this family learn police techniques (use of baton and other methods); know what can be used as a weapon and close by. In the kitchen there are knives, hot kettles of water, caustic cleaning stuff–Then get busy sending correspondence to your gov’t representatives, get neighbors involved –but most importantly do NOT sit back waiting for liberal leadership to help YOU. They are too busy helping the wrong people!

  14. Arthur says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 9:25 pm

    >> She said: ‘I was so shocked. I can remember thinking, ”Oh my god! Who is this person?’’

    Intelligent people would ask this question before inviting someone in, not after. She was gullible enough to fall for state propaganda. She was gullible enough to believe the lying “refugee” despite evidence and intuition to the opposite.

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 11:48 am

      I wonder if she didn’t wuestion his shaving every day or growing a repulsive ungroomed beard. I think most people would be sort of puzzled about that.

  15. Praeceptor Maximus says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 6:21 am

    Plight of the Swedish women in Sweden.

  16. Crusades Were Right! says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 6:25 am

    Not only should Robert Spencer be allowed to enter the UK, he should be appointed the UK’s special adviser on Mohammedan affairs!

  17. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 7:01 am

    The best part about this article is the *comments*.

    I went to the original site and read the whole in situ, and then I read the comments. *Twelve pages’ worth*.

    Very instructive. Because a great many of the comments, though usually much briefer than here, were spot on. Many would not have been out of place at this forum.

    Lots of people were sharing their *own* experiences, or those of people they knew – and not only recent experience, either – with lying mohammedan males who pretend to be ‘children’ or ‘teenagers’ when they most manifestly are NOT. (There were a couple of people posting from *Sweden*!).

    The most Islamosavvy comments, and those with the bluntest realism, were – as a rule – the ones getting hundreds or even *thousands* of upclicks from other readers.

    Plenty of Islamosavvy commenters identifying themselves by English monikers and locations.

    It really made for heartening reading. Yes, there are those who are fooled; but there are LOTS who are not, and I suspect the number of the unfooled – or the DE-fooled, who have recently woken up – is starting to increase more rapidly.

    What was quite amusing, was the ways in which people were circumventing the ‘auto-censor’.

    One very simple lurk is to type forbidden words – ‘Muslim”, “Islam”, “Muslims” like this – Mus lim, Is lam, and Mus lims. Similar tricks are used to sneak other terminology past the censors.

    What is also curious is the number of times commenters say “these people” or “them” or “they”.. and it is crystal clear that they are referring to mohammedans, to Muslims, and that everyone else commenting *also* understands.

    It’s a real lesson in human ingenuity.

    However: the word “jihadist’ doesn’t seem to have been entered into the memory bank of the Daily Mail’s auto-censor as it trawls through the comments… because it was *not* filtered out and posts containing it were right there to be read.

  18. mortimer says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 9:25 am

    Fear is the main tool of jihad: K.8.60 ‘Turhibunna’ (terrorize them).

  19. mortimer says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 9:37 am

    Can the Customs Officers not tell the difference between a 12-year-old and a 19-year-old? I THINK they can.

  20. Lioness says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 11:27 am

    What a stupid woman! She suspected that he was not 12 – maybe the facial hair was a clue – and yet she lets this vermin into her home to endanger her family. But even if he WAS 12, who in his right mind takes in a muslim into their home? It’s like inviting a cancer cell into your body as a guest. And cancer cells do what they have always done: kill their host.

  21. Singh the Sikh says

    Mar 4, 2017 at 7:35 am

    I go back to ancient wisdom – simply, you reap what you sow, lady.

    You are despicable for endangering you little girl by exposing her to potential rape.

    God you are dumb and your poor daughter could have paid a high price of your inate stupidly.

    • Singh the Sikh says

      Mar 4, 2017 at 7:43 am

      You can still make amends lady by taking legal action against your government for negligence and reckless endangerment. Maybe it will put an end end to the fraud called ‘child refugees’ being perpetuated on the people. Abdul was laughing about it! The British Government really is a joke. It has sunk to a really low depth. It’s now putting potential jihadis into the homes of its citizens and exposing families to grave risk, including children. Surely this is criminal?

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Mar 4, 2017 at 5:43 pm

        Yes, she could sue. She and – probably – others who might come forward now this interview has been aired.

        Gavin Boby, of the Law and Freedom Foundation, in the UK, could be getting in touch with her; I think he probably knows a few lawyers who would even take the case on ‘pro bono’.

        Cases like this could be transformed into ‘teaching moments’… and used to establish *healthy* precedents, used to *change* the law.

  22. Glen says

    Mar 4, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    This is really funny, this crank of a woman lets the liberal Social Services talk her into taking a refugee ‘child’ in and she expected what? Harry Potter!! it begs the question, if the SS (you couldn’t make the liberals up) were that concerned with the plight of this ‘child’ why didn’t any of them take him in?

    Oh of course, they can’t because of ‘professional conflct concerns’, or maybe they just know the score and don’t want their precious families put in harms way, either way they are part of the problem that is liberalism.

    As for the woman, I hope she has learnt her lesson but somehow I doubt she has, she’ll still vote labour, she’ll still support immigration, she’ll still think good of islam and all because she’s a liberal lefty.

  23. patriotliz says

    Mar 5, 2017 at 2:09 am

    Another story illustrating “The Snake” lyrics that Trump quoted at some of his rallies:
    https://youtu.be/yeJ-iv3MOTo

    And here’s Al Wilson singing it:
    https://youtu.be/fHIcVuqQgVo?list=RDfHIcVuqQgVo

  24. Glyn Davies says

    May 31, 2017 at 8:43 am

    You reap what you sow, She won’t be so bloody stupid next time.

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