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Unfit for duty: McMaster and Gorka

Mar 2, 2017 5:42 pm By Robert Spencer

It is unfortunate and disquieting that this denial and willful ignorance continues in the Trump administration. One cannot defeat an enemy that one does not understand, much less one that one refuses to understand. President Trump continues to speak about “radical Islamic terrorism” while hiring people who remain in Obamoid fantasyland. This must be clarified.

“Unfit for Duty,” by John Guandolo, Understanding the Threat, February 26, 2017:

The new National Security Advisor – Lieutenant General Herbert Raymond McMaster – and the Counter-Terrorism advisor to the President of the United States – Sebastian Gorka – both unequivocally state the “terrorist” threat America faces has nothing to do with “true” Islam.

Both men are catastrophically wrong and, therefore, are leading America down a disastrous road towards defeat.

The New York Times, Guardian, and CNN all report Lt General McMaster told members of the National Security Council Thursday he felt “radical Islamic terrorism” was an unhelpful way to describe terrorism because becoming a terrorist is actually “un-Islamic” in the first place.

In a talk he gave at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in May 2016, LtGen McMaster said, “There is a cycle going on where groups like ISIL, who use this irreligious ideology, you know, this perverted interpretation of religion to justify violence, they depend on ignorance and the ability to recruit vulnerable segments of populations to foment hatred, then use that hatred to justify violence against innocents.”

This is incoherent and factually wrong.  LtGen McMaster wrote a book entitled “Dereliction of Duty.”  He may want to look in the mirror to see if he is doing the same thing in this war he accused President Johnson of doing in Vietnam.

100% of all Islamic doctrine, from elementary, junior high, and high school Islamic text books as well as the highest authorities in Islamic jurisprudence, to include Al Azhar University in Egypt, all clearly and doctrinally state Islam is a “complete way of life (social, cultural, political, military, religious)” governed by sharia (Islamic Law).  100% of all sharia mandates jihad until the world is under Islamic rule, and 100% of sharia only defines “jihad” as warfare against non-Muslims.

The violence Al Qaeda, ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Boston bombers, the attackers in Paris, the Fort Lauderdale shooter, and all the jihadis we have faced over the past 20 years quote authoritative Islamic doctrine in support of what they do.  Al Qaeda and ISIS have never misquoted sharia in furtherance of their actions.In the last 15 years it has been made clear – the more muslims study Islam and sharia, the more likely they are to support and participate in jihad.

So the questions remains…what the hell is Lieutenant General McMaster talking about because he is not talking truthfully about a real and present danger to these United States?  He is doing exactly what our enemy wants him to do – creating an imaginary target for us to chase while our real enemy prepares to defeat us.

Nearly 16 years after 9/11, the Global Islamic Movement has taken down nations, expanded its power, and defeated the United States in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq because leaders like McMaster decided they were too busy to stop and learn the enemy threat doctrine – Sharia – and instead have been given a counterfactual understanding of our enemy by Islamic advisors who are all batting for the other team.

The President’s Counterterrorism advisor, Sebastian Gorka, is “over the moon” LtGen McMaster is the new National Security Advisor.  However, Gorka’s lack of honesty about the Islamic threat raises much more serious questions.

Some have been lulled into believing he is on the right track because he uttered the word “jihad” but defeating this enemy takes more than pretending to know what you are talking about.

Speaking at CPAC this past weekend, Gorka stated:  “Zuhdi (Jasser) knows it better than anybody because he understands that this isn’t about poverty or lack of education. It’s about people who are fighting for the soul of Islam – not a war with Islam, but a war inside Islam; as King Abdullah, as General Sisi has said, for which version is going to win.”

Utter nonsense.  There is one version of Islam and one Sharia.  To say otherwise is to be factually wrong, but also dangerous when national strategies are being built off that utter nonsense.

When one’s duties include national security responsibilities, one has a professional duty to know the enemy or do due diligence to know the enemy.  To fail to do so makes one professionally negligent in one’s duties.  When people die (Ft Lauderdale, Boston, Orlando, Ft Hood…) because a person is unprofessional in his/her duties it is called “criminal negligence” and doctors and lawyers go to jail for such behavior.

Several years ago at a town hall presentation hosted by Washington, D.C. radio station WMAL, Sebastian Gorka stated “99.9% of muslims do not support terrorism (jihad)” despite a mountain of evidence and polling data proving this comment untrue, and the fact the entire purpose of Islam is to wage jihad until the world is dominated by Islamic rule (sharia).

Dr. Gorka also writes in his book, Defeating Jihad, we are not at war with Islam (p.129) but our enemy is “the ideology of takfiri jihad” (p.123).

No Muslim jihadi who fought on the battlefields of Afghanistan, Iraq or anywhere else, nor any of the jihadis who have died in Europe in the United States attacking us nor the jihadis we have arrested have said they are “takfiri jihadis.”  They have said they are “Muslims” waging “Jihad in the cause of Allah” to “establish a caliphate under sharia.”

This is what Islamic doctrine commands them to do.

On page 144 of his book, Gorka ends with the call for the United States to spend billions of dollars supporting “Muslim reformers” in their “ideological war to delegitimize the message of holy war against the infidel and bolster modern interpretations of Islam.”  This demonstrates Sebastian Gorka is either completely free of any clue of Islamic doctrine or is intentionally lying about what Islam actually teaches.

Since these ideas and strategies to use “moderate Muslims” to ensure the “other version” of Islam wins are based in fantasy not reality, these policies will necessarily fail – and have failed the United States for 15 years.

Is that Dr. Gorka’s intention?  Does he not know that strategies to win a war must be based in the reality of who the enemy is?  Why would Sebastian Gorka put forth such and idea when he knows what he is saying is untrue?

Is it possible Dr. Gorka has remained strategically incoherent for 15 years during this global war?  Is he working on behalf of some outside entity to intentionally mislead the President of the United States, or is he is simply putting his paycheck ahead of the American people and his duty.

The United States will lose this war against the Global Islamic Movement if we do not clearly define the enemy and target the enemy.  We cannot hit a target we do not identify and cannot defeat an enemy we do not target.

Our warfighting doctrine calls for an analysis of our enemy based on how the enemy defines itself.  We begin our analysis there.  Something we have not done since 9/11/01.  If we did, our entire national security apparatus, including our military, would have been studying and teaching authoritative sharia and more of our soldiers, Marines, sailors, and airmen would be alive today because of it.

Keeping LtGen McMaster and Sebastian Gorka in their current positions will ensure America remains strategically incoherent and will guarantee our defeat in this war against the Global Islamic Movement.

As always, this war will be won or lost at the local level because our federal government is still failing us.

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  1. Frank Anderson says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    To Robert Spencer: I appreciate and respect your continuing work to get people to wake to the reality of Islam. For whatever my support is worth you have it without reservation. I read your book “The P.I.G. to Islam and the Crusades”, along with about 2 dozen others by a spectrum of authors and with a variety of areas of concentration. I have recommended your book as 1 of 2 best by far for introductions that help break the subject of Islam, its history and its goals, to people who were living in states of ignorance and denial. Thank you.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 10:16 pm

      Agreed, Frank!

  2. mortimer says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    McMaster must go. He doesn’t know more about Islam than Caliph al Baghdadi (PhD, Islamic Studies) or Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, imam (ret’d) at Grand Mosque in Mecca.

    Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, has said that the Islamic State (IS) group follows the same brand of Islam as officially espoused by Saudi Arabia. “We follow the same thought [as IS] but apply it in a refined way,” he said. “They draw their ideas from what is written in our own books, from our own principles.”
    The cleric said that “we do not criticise the thought on which it (IS) is based”. In his MBC interview, which was broadcast on 22 January, Kalbani said IS and Salafists in Saudi Arabia shared the same opinion on apostasy, which is that those who leave Islam should be executed.
    Kalbani also spoke about the killing of journalists by IS, including Americans James Foley and Steven Sotloff, which drew global condemnation in September 2014. He said “their blood was shed according to Salafist fatwas (religious edicts) not outside the Salafist framework.” Over the years, Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani’s has said that the Islamic State is a “true product of Salafism”.

    McMaster is DEVOID OF UNDERSTANDING ABOUT ISLAMIC DOCTRINES and should be fired.

    His lack of knowledge of Islam makes him unfit.

    • VRWC member77 says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      ““Zuhdi (Jasser) knows it better than anybody because he understands that this isn’t about poverty or lack of education.”

      I’m also getting tired of this reference to Zuidi. He may be well meaning but enough is enough.

      ********* PLEASE READ THIS ZUDI, AN ISLAMIC REFORMATION AIN’T GONNA HAPPEN **********

      And why should Islam be “reformed” anyway. It’s much easier to become an atheist, Christian, Jew, Hindu, or a Scientology member. He should follow and support someone like Sandra Solomon……Someone who is literally putting her LIFE on the line to expose Islam for what it never will be……..reformed.

      • mortimer says

        Mar 2, 2017 at 7:01 pm

        McMaster is saying that ISIS DOCTRINES are DIFFERENT from standard SUNNITE DOCTRINES.

        In fact, ISIS and SAUDI ARABIA have the SAME VERSION OF SALAFISM.

        If McMaster doesn’t understand this, he doesn’t know enough to do the job. If he is lying to the American people about THE UNIFORMITY of ISIS and SAUDI DOCTRINES, then he is unfit because he is lying about the JIHAD DOCTRINE to the American people to keep them unable to make good political choices.

        Whether McMaster is wrong knowingly or unknowingly, he is unfit because THE AMERICAN PEOPLE MUST HEAR THE TRUTH ABOUT JIHAD FROM THEIR LEADERS.

        • maghan says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 1:47 am

          Is it because the U.S. does not want to alienate oil sellers and weapons buyers like Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Qatar? Plus “allies” like Egypt, Turkey, and Jordan?

          Money talks and Islamic terror walks.

      • R Cole says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 8:42 am

        On the bright side you’re not going to have anyone pushing Islamic law, to help Muslims in the US to ‘integrate’.

        This is key.

        Under Obama anyone talking about Sharia law – useless they were praising it – was deemed a racist.

        In fact Spicer was asked – about the SPLC [think] finding that the number of US anti-Islamic sites have grown. And in his answer he made it clear, that they would not be going after people who are exercising their First Amendment.

        Doubless, this anti-Islamic list includes former Muslims.

        This is in complete contrast to Obama, who saw criticism or real examination of Islam as somehow criminal.

        But more without the Islamic-Leftist effort to see that Islamic law takes hold – coupled with their efforts to malign the constitution – anyone who is a Muslim or joins, can leave it.

        As a long term strategy this is good.

        Because sharia law is most effective at eroding the non-Muslim population. The forced conversions and restrictions on marriage – not only in Egypt but in Syria – where couples whose partners are from two different Christian sects must under Syrian law – convert to Islam in order to marry.

        ::

        I think instinctively Trump gets it. He spoke about how he wanted America to look in generations to come. And knows these problems emanate from Islam.

        ::

        Gorka says Zuhdi understands best, …that if he were in the Islamic world he would not be free to speak, he’d be jailed or possibly would not be alive.

        Zuhdi knows Muslims expect their governments to punish and put to death those who do not abide by the sharia. He understand how Muslims live in the hope that the world will be brought under these same laws. And what the terrorist are fighting for is to achieve the same.

        So right now there is a great opportunity to educate as many people as possible. To clarify what it means to be western, in contrast to what it means to live under this religious law. This is something Trump said he wants to emphasize – pride in the flag, pride in the country. And is clear anyone who immigrates to America should share the same values.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 6:14 pm

          Unfortunately, Jasser spends a lot more time talking to Infidels than he does to his fellow Muslims–which is what he would be doing if he were truly intent on reforming Islam.

  3. overman says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    l can only reiterate LT General William Boykin [the man who should probably have this job] –

    “LTGMcMaster is known as a very bright strategist who has written extensively about insurgency and counterinsurgency. The issue that we all must question is where he stands on ISIS.
    That would seem like a very simple question for a guy like LTG McMaster but it is not as straight forward as you might think. Let me explain.
    On multiple occasions, the general has made statements like “ The IslamicState is not Islamic”, parroting the false information of the Obama Administration.
    That is a problem if he is another general who refuses to recognize the enemy. I hope that he knows better and will come out soon with a clear position on what motivates ISIS.
    The other thing that worries me is that he is an activeduty three star general and as far as I can tell, he will remain on active duty. That essentially means that he will be out ranked by nearly everyone in the administration. I see this as downgrading the position of NSA at a time when that job needs to be very powerful to help the POTUS in developing foreignpolicy and strategic plans.
    While McMaster is a good man, I worry about his stance on ISIS and his relative rank within the administration but I am taking a wait and see position for now until more information becomes available”

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 6:27 pm

      Yes–from what I know of Boykin he seems quite knowledgeable about Islam.

  4. Harrison says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    I understand where you’re coming from but are you really going to attack Gorka as well? He’s already spoken about Jihad as a threat. If you expect them to condemn Islam as a whole, you’re the one living in fantasyland. Even Trump speaks of “Radical Islamic terror” as you note.

    • Terry Gain says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      i say it all the time and I am not a kook. And I quote Obama of all people. No religion condones killing. Since Islam not only condones but mandates killing of infidels it is not a legitimate religion. Not hard to say at all.

      America does not need to go to the war. It just needs to exclude Muslims. They are not compatible and emigrating to the United States is not a right.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 2, 2017 at 10:27 pm

        Terry, Islam is indeed a religion–it is just an evil one. Aztecs practicing human sacrifice and people sacrificing their infants to Baal are other examples.

        *Most* religions teach goodness–but not all of them.

        • mousey says

          Mar 2, 2017 at 11:28 pm

          gravenimage, as you know islam is more than a religion, it is a complete way of life. I’ve heard MB now not as into Qutb, don’t know if that’s true or not, but in reading milestones didn’t you….i mean i thought a good portion of it was some of the most religious writing i’ve come across in an essay.

        • Terry Gain says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 8:21 am

          Graven Image
          The key word in my comment was “legitimate”. Islam is a political ideology with irrational religious aspects. It is a false religion. What kind of God would choose a psychopath as His prophet? And what kind of religion promises an eternal reward of carnal pleasure for kicking?

          Islam will prevail unless the ideology is attacked. And allowing Muslims into the country and then spending billions monitoring them is insane.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 6:35 pm

          mousey wrote:

          gravenimage, as you know islam is more than a religion, it is a complete way of life. I’ve heard MB now not as into Qutb, don’t know if that’s true or not, but in reading milestones didn’t you….i mean i thought a good portion of it was some of the most religious writing i’ve come across in an essay.
          ……………………….

          Yes, mousey–I know that Islam is considered a “complete way of life”, and controls every aspect of a Muslim’s life–as well as the lives of unbelievers.

          As for Milestones, I didn’t consider it religious in the sense of spiritual or moral–but, certainly, that ugly little book is all about spreading and imposing Islam, on both Muslims and Infidels.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 7:02 pm

          Terry Gain wrote:

          Graven Image
          The key word in my comment was “legitimate”. Islam is a political ideology with irrational religious aspects. It is a false religion.
          …………………………

          Of course I consider Islam a false religion. Terry. But many faiths–true or not–teach some moral goodness. Not Islam, though.

          You are right that Islam should be relentlessly exposed as evil. Many in the West simply have no idea what this vicious faith teaches.

          And I could not agree more that Muslims should be kept out of the West–we will never be safe with Muslims flooding in.

          Got Muslims? Got Jihad.

      • vivarto says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 8:57 am

        Exactly,
        Just like America in the past excluded communists.

    • Terry Gain says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 8:36 pm

      Harrison

      Perhaps you can explain to us dullards the difference between radical Islamic Terrorism and Islamic Terrorism.

      • Harrison says

        Mar 2, 2017 at 9:47 pm

        Ask Trump. That was my point.

      • mousey says

        Mar 2, 2017 at 11:05 pm

        yes, harrison, i agree. It’s muslims who accuse other muslims of takfirism that are the present major problem. They don’t have to say, ‘i’m a takfiri jihadi’ in order for them to see the world that way….why else to you think they are trying to take down muslim gov’ts like egypt’s,? Why else do they think it’s ok to kill people who profess to be muslim?

        You may be convinced that they accusers are correct, ie that those muslims who don’t want to take over the world are not really muslims…but you can’t say all muslims would agree with that.

        • mousey says

          Mar 2, 2017 at 11:10 pm

          ya, ok, islam instead of radical islam…but don’t you think that distances people who grew up muslim, like to pray, want to be godly and don’t want anything to do with caliphates…f

        • Pong says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 11:37 am

          Mousey,
          Those nice people you described are the base. They are financial, political and recruitment base for jihad. As most islamic apologists do, you come up with some version of islam, which has very little to do with reality.

        • mousey says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 4:40 pm

          pong,
          no i am not an islamic apologist, thank you. I myself know not much, but here are 2016 words from counterjihadreport.com:

          To his credit, Sisi recognizes the nature of the threat and has taken steps to counter jihad that Mubarak never contemplated. The Egyptian leader recognizes that to defeat ISIS nothing less than a reformation of Islam is required. And so, in addition to fighting ISIS with everything he has, he is risking everything by taking on the jihadist belief system.

          Sisi has mobilized the clerics at Al-Azhar seminary to develop an Islamic narrative that rejects jihad.

          Sisi risks everything because everything is already at risk. If ISIS wins, Egypt is finished.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 7:10 pm

          mousey, any Muslims who really want to be godly are virtual apostates who have rejected the horrific tenets of Islam.

    • maghan says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 2:03 am

      All about Saudi, Qatar, Kuwait oil and arms sales. No open wish to alienate those corrupt and antihuman regimes.

    • blitz2b says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 8:34 am

      Could it be that what these big wigs discuss behind closed doors is not the same as they portray to the media and public?

      I mean maybe this is a strategy…. No? After all even Mohammed said “… War is deceit…” So why not use their own strategy against them? Maybe the Trump administration doesn’t want to alienate the allies in Islamic nations of whom they would rather use as boots on the ground than our own troops to eradicate ISIS.

      Has Trump not on many occasions mentioned that he is against disclosing plans to the media in regards to any military moves they make against ISIS?

      Can they all still not have one opinion about this specific issue for the general public and a strategic one for between themselves behind closed doors?

      In the leaked tapes of Hillary Clinton it was clear that she condoned the practice of two opinions one to sooth the public and another realistic one to tackle the issue….

      I’m pretty sure most politicians hold to this same standard…

      Just a thought…

      • Terry Gain says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 8:41 am

        blitz2b
        The same thought occurred to me but if that is the strategy it is wrong because the biggest threat is not ISIS, it is the soft Jihad.

        • blitz2b says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 11:56 am

          @Terry Gain,
          True dat…. However an even bigger threat to all of civilization is….. Islam!!! Period. No matter how much you try to sugarcoat a turd, it will always have crap at its very core…

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 7:14 pm

        We don’t have any real allies in Muslim nations. And if they were real allies, why would it alienate them telling the truth about Islam?

  5. vlparker says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    Gorka is bad news, as I have stated in several posts. Unfortunately, he has a very undeserved following in conservative circles. Hopefully, that will start to change. Trump needs to dump both Gorka and McMaster.

  6. kessler says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    Until he became part of the Trump team, I used to be a fan of Gorka. I didn’t get to read his book, but his interviews/debates made him appear very knowledgeable and realistic about the jihadi threat.
    I wonder if he stands by his comments from the book. We will probably know when the next jihad attack happens which will be soon

  7. Wellington says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    The Great Pretend Game (GPG) continues, whereby a phantom distinction, an utterly bogus distinction, is still put forward about how so-called radical Islamic terrorists don’t represent the lovely, noble, enlightened, tolerant, blah, blah, blah religion which is Islam.

    But they do. They’re actually the most devout and accurate practitioners of Islam. So, the key question here has to be what does President Trump think of all this? He has great street instincts (remember, a year ago last March he said, “I think Islam hates us”) and he is very smart overall, but he is deficient in knowledge in certain areas, no more so than about Islam.

    So, what’s up with the appointments of McMaster and Gorka? Not sure right now. On the surface, definitely doesn’t look good, but perhaps Trump wants different voices heard while still knowing deep down inside where the truth lies. Hope this is the case.

    I want to be sure that Trump is “sure” about Islam but matters are still too fluid right now for certainty in this area. Perhaps Trump is merely a first-step in the right direction in taking on what Islam intends for all the West and a greater person than he must follow (frankly, I think this “scenario” is highly likely). But no greater person is in sight right now who is politically viable, at least not in America. Thus, Islam, sad to say, still has the advantage. I hope the 45th President gets all this. Not sure that he does——–and the McMaster and Gorka kind of appointments understandably don’t inspire confidence in those who know what Islam, ALL OF ISLAM, intends for us all..

    Oh yeah, things are very fluid at present. Very. And, as always, Islam is parasitically waiting in the wings to deceive and to use freedom in order to eventually end it. Hope Trump’s great street instincts are enough to grasp all this. Better be. At least for now.

    • mortimer says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 7:03 pm

      BAGHDADI KNOWS ISLAM BETTER THAN MCMASTER.

      Caliph Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, who is the ISIS chief and the caliph of the Islamic State, is apparently the first Islamic Studies PhD from a Muslim background who has no idea about Islam.
      Al-Baghdadi, who has obtained BA, MA and PhD degrees in Islamic studies from the Islamic University in Baghdad, has been condemned as a person who knows nothing about Islam, and as the head of an organization that has nothing to do with Islam.
      The professors from the Islamic University of Baghdad, however, do not agree. They taught the caliph and believe his credentials and doctrines are sound.
      “If a person who has a PhD in Islamic studies and does nothing but study the Islamic scriptures knows nothing about Islam, then who does?” questioned al-Baghdadi’s main teacher from the Islamic University, preferring to remain anonymous since the fatwa against ISIS and its chief puts his reputation into jeopardy.
      “The wine-sipping Muslims, those hedonistic adulterers will tell the world what true Islam is? Obama and Cameron know more about Islam than the faculty of Islamic studies at the Islamic University in Baghdad?” the professor bellowed with rage, while talking to a journalist.
      Another professor, who had taught al-Baghdadi for his BA, said off the record that the ISIS caliph was an ardent student.
      “He had this obsession with Islamic studies. I used to tell him to go out and have some fun sometimes. But his idea of fun wasn’t too human friendly,” the professor said. “In any case he was a top student. One of the best I’ve ever had. Had the entire syllabus on his finger tips – to be honest, he knew more about Islamic studies than most of the professors.”
      “While you can question whether they are humans or not, there is no doubt that ISIS, including Abu Bakr (al Baghdadi), are indeed bona fide Muslims,” concluded the ISIS caliph’s PhD professor.

      • t. says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 11:57 am

        Thanks, mortimer, for this in-depth information about Abu Bakr El Baghdady!

        Where do you find such wealth of details?

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 7:19 pm

          Mortimer is very knowledgeable.

    • maghan says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 2:14 am

      First priority is to destroy ISIS completely. Next: Saudi Arabia and Iran to be the objects of huge pressures that would bring them very low. And Turkey needs a revert to its original status. Issue here is how to bell the cat? Probing question: how was Communism brought to its knees? Money pressures or otherwise?

      Gorka and Mc Master: where do they stand on this? Should Islam be treated the same way that Communism was treated? That’s the question they must answer.

  8. Warmac9999 says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    Appeasement is always the easiest choice until it has to be replaced by the horrors of what works. We have gone from giddy but ignorant acceptance, to “what the hell do we do short of war”, to preparing for war. (Sweden just reinstituted the draft as an example of preparing for war. Against who is a valid question.)

    Because of the politically correct left, It is virtually impossible to even say Islam isn’t a religion but an ideology without being looked at as a kook. Trump has taken a good step forward but more will certainly be needed when Western Europe is, once again, in a war for survival because of its foolishness.

    • Terry Gain says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 8:29 pm

      i say it all the time and I am not a kook. And I quote Obama of all people. No religion condones killing. Since Islam not only condones but mandates killing of infidels it is not a legitimate religion. Not hard to say at all.

      America does not need to go to the war. It just needs to exclude Muslims. They are not compatible and emigrating to the United States is not a right.

      • Frank Anderson says

        Mar 2, 2017 at 10:22 pm

        TG, I beg to ask why it would be necessary for Infidels to declare a war when Islam has continuously declared war against Infidels, ALL Infidels, for 1400 years. The Japanese declared war when attacking Pearl Harbor; the Germans declared war when attacking Poland, and the Soviet Union. Can one side avoid a war simply by ignoring that the other side has started killing? How long must the promise, not the threat, in all standard, orthodox Islam, whatever the purported divisions and groups, be active before responding?

        • Terry Gain says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 8:23 am

          Graven Image
          The key word in my comment was “legitimate”. Islam is a political ideology with irrational religious aspects. It is a false religion. What kind of God would choose a psychopath as His prophet? And what kind of religion promises an eternal reward of carnal pleasure for kicking?

          Islam will prevail unless the ideology is attacked. And allowing Muslims into the country and then spending billions monitoring them is insane.

        • Frank Anderson says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 8:40 am

          TG and GI, the thought strikes me that the legal meaning of the word “religion” needs to be clarified. Should Nazism, Communism, or any other ‘ism be given the protected status of religion when its clearly stated goal is to destroy the Constitution?

          When looking at the basic writing of Islam and its universal practice for 1400 years, its teachings start with a rejection of any other source of law, including the Constitution. The teachings reject any other authority or government guiding the lives of people. It teaches that any joy in this life is forbidden; that only after death is pleasure to be available. Islam teaches that every person is worth only death. Would the “religion” of any group (such as both Aztecs and Islam) practicing human sacrifice (e.g. suicide bombings) be declared protected just because the group self-identifies as a religion? Something might be open to challenge here.

        • Terry Gain says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 8:28 am

          FA
          Exactly. We are not at war with Islam but Islam is certainly at war with us. And by purporting to be a religion Islam has immunized itself from attack. Yes we are engaged in fighting the hard Jihadists. In the meantime the soft Jihadists are spreading Islam within America. The soft Jihad is the real threat.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 9:13 pm

          Frank, I don’t believe we are going to get anywhere with outlawing Islam itself. But we *should* come down like a ton of bricks whenever its followers break our laws–as many of the tenets of Islam instruct them to do.

        • Frank Anderson says

          Mar 4, 2017 at 1:47 am

          GI, informing uninformed adults expecting challenges from both believers and collaborators in the form of both legal and illegal responses would benefit by preparing our own legal responses. You may remember when Sheriff Arpaio was being told by federal authorities that he had no right to assist in enforcing federal law as a state officer. Arpaio was sued and prepared for a long legal exercise that could easily cost millions in fees and costs. Someone informed him and his legal team about a single US Supreme Court case, In re Quarles, 158 U.S. 532, from 1895, and about 2 dozen subsequent Supreme Court cases, which say it is not merely the right, it is the duty of every citizen to aid federal authorities in enforcing the federal law. Why did the federal prosecutors not know about these cases, or were they deliberately ignorant? These prosecutors, all of them through the Department of “Justice” who authorized, approved or conducted this witch hunt should be removed and suffer consequences for their lawbreaking, like Mike Nifong.

          Instead of taking years, the case went away in a few months. Arpaio won. And so did we. If all we do is exchange among ourselves the simple truth about Islam, I don’t think we can accomplish a successful resistance and reversal of the Islamic conquest. Being prepared as part of any effort to inform enough people who just don’t know, to resist the lies that are foundational to Islam, makes it harder for us to be silenced. As long as there is a Constitution, and people with understanding and courage to enforce it, we will not have cases like LePen being threatened with criminal prosecution for speaking the truth. Or those who do prosecute false or unconstitutional charges face their own possibility of total destruction.

          Instead, anyone who would entertain conducting such a prosecution would need to be reminded of Al Sharpton goading Mike Nifong and Marilyn Mosby into false criminal prosecutions. Nifong was removed from office, disbarred, sued, lost, bankrupted, denied discharge of the judgments, criminally prosecuted and sentenced to jail. Last I heard Mosby was subject to a Maryland Bar complaint and has disappeared from news reports. In the US at least, there is a very strong and effective restraint on false prosecutions. Not true elsewhere, with little or no constitutional rights for individuals. US Bar rules state that a prosecutor’s duty is to seek the truth, not to blindly and thoughtlessly conduct groundless prosecutions seeking convictions.

          One of the major themes of law school is to teach arguing both sides. A lawyer does not know which side would want to hire him; and being prepared to respond to claims of the other side puts the lawyer a step ahead of his opponent. The idea of being prepared to challenge the “legitimacy” of a “religion” that both advocates and practices a litany of uncivilized behavior is a good step, either as an offensive or defensive argument. If we act, even using perfectly lawful means, we will be challenged. Like Honorable Sheriff Arpaio,the right information and preparation can reduce the time and cost of going forward.

          Apologize for the long response. Please accept my best wishes.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 9:09 pm

      Warmac9999 wrote:

      Appeasement is always the easiest choice until it has to be replaced by the horrors of what works.
      ……………………………

      I don’t believe that enforcing our own civilized laws constitutes “horrors”. Letting Islam run amok is a horror, instead..

  9. billybob says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    How is this general supposed to “drain the swamp”? Obviously, he’ll do no such thing. Very disappointing to read this. But could he possibly be using “Reverse taqiyya” to fool the enemy and make them complacent?

    Maybe not such a stretch. I was speculating the other day, about what generals study concerning the Art of War. These guys study in depth, every battle that ever happened since the dawn of history. They study every philosophy and work on the art ever written. Undoubtedly they have studied plenty about the art of Islamic warfare, and Islamic battles right back to Muhammad himself. I mean, it’s their profession. They are professional warriors. They don’t get their stars from a box of Cracker Jacks. I would hope, they must know all about Islamic doctrines.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 10:41 pm

      I don’t believe this has anything to do with “reverse Taqiyya”, billybob. Many in the military are just clueless about Islam and in denial, as are many civilians.

      • Rob says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 12:42 pm

        The military does not have to understand them, just kill them when ordered with the least loss of lives and at the lowest cost.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 9:24 pm

          Rob, if our leaders understand nothing about the threat of Islam, they will not understand who actually presents a threat to us, and who a reliable ally. Your idea that understanding who the enemy is to be irrelevant is quite mistaken.

  10. davej says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Considering the history since 9/11 the next large Islamic terror attack is not a question of if but when. Perhaps that will be the opportunity for Trump to double down and get rid of his apologist advisors. He has been quoted referring to Islam as hateful snakes and pledging the eradication of ISIS, so he seems to have more awareness than most.

    And Steve Bannon is still in there, he also seems more Islam-aware.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 2, 2017 at 11:49 pm

      I’ve heard McMaster is trying to oust him. I hope this is not correct.

      • Mark Swan says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 1:59 am

        President Trump is a working President, result oriented, General McMaster
        will either do it, or get off the pot. If Mr. Bannon has the President’s ear, it
        would not be wise to try and shade him, they all work for President Trump.

        President Trump made it plain where he stands, addressing the Congress.

        This spill-over language the General is using is wide spread and common;
        over time, if President Trump stays with it, things should start to look better.

        I sure hope.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 9:30 pm

          I hope so too, Mark. But while Trump’s instincts are generally good re the threat of Islam, there is a lot about that foul creed he does not appear to understand. I think he could easily be misinformed by clueless tools like McMaster.

        • Mark Swan says

          Mar 3, 2017 at 11:57 pm

          Yes, of course, let’s hope he stays with it, uses the approach of surprise
          on all national enemies. That approach is what he says he plans for ISIS.

          Right now, I have the same apprehension.

  11. Angus says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    Gorda and McMaster are 1/2 measures at best on the path to truly doing what needs to be done to defeat islam.

    Both are significantly better than nothing (which is what we had under Obama) but will hopefully be replaced by more appropriate individuals in the future…

  12. Jack Gabriel says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    I don’t know much about these two men McMaster and Gorka. I have listened to Gorka interviews and thought he made some inroads in what Islam is all about. I have not read his book. However I can say that Zuhdi Al Jasser who has been courted by Fox News for some time to represent ” moderate” Islam is living a delusion and a denial about whatever portion of Islam he wants to believe in or discard with. Islam is a way of life as dictated by Mohammad. Any deviation from his way of life is a deviation from the straight path in Arabic ( al Saratt al mustaqeem). So this myth of Islamic reformation is near impossible and an abomination to Muslim adherents. There is no way to whitewash the life of Mohammad the founder of Islam. Many dissident but rational thinkers who resorted to reason and logic tried to demystify and demythologize the aura of sacradness vfrom thr Quran and attribute its genesis t human authors rather the almighty Allah of Islam and were brutally persecuted and snuffed out swiftly. Read about the Al Mu’attazzalah.
    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Mutazilah

  13. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    Idea: If there is anyone who is familiar both with jihad doctrine and the theory of the
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OODA_loop
    perhaps it would be valuable to see how the latter might be applied to (and hopefully against) the former.
    On the other hand, jihad doctrine has remained constant over the past, oh, thousand years, but military theories — Sun Tzu, Clausewitz, OODA loop — come and go.

  14. gravenimage says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    Unfit for duty: McMaster and Gorka
    …………………..

    I assumed there would be some cluelessness along these lines, given that Trump appears to understand little about the creed of Islam itself–although he is refreshingly Anti-Jihad.

    But having said that, this is still painful to see.

    • maghan says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 2:24 am

      Islam is a very simple-minded ideology/creed. It could be explained to a 12 year old in 3 hours of lectures. After all, most Muslims are low IQ degenerates, yet they can be made to willingly strap on a suicide vest.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 9:51 pm

        I very much agree, Maghan–many in the West are confused about the threat of Islam–but this is not because Islam is all that complicated, especially in its basics, but because so many are in denial. They don’t *want* to know about Islam.

  15. Matthieu Baudin says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 11:40 pm

    “… Nearly 16 years after 9/11, the Global Islamic Movement has taken down nations, expanded its power, and defeated the United States in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq because leaders like McMaster decided they were too busy to stop and learn the enemy threat doctrine – Sharia – and instead have been given a counterfactual understanding of our enemy by Islamic advisors who are all batting for the other team…”

    Brilliantly concise description of 16 lost years; the dereliction of those in policy roles, who think they can swan about without making a commitment of their time, to examine relevant religious exhortations to violence. One hopes the commander in chief isn’t hanging up his boots and taking a post election nap.

    • maghan says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 2:34 am

      The war in Afghanistan was a dumb war. After all, the war was to help the Afghan jihadis defeat the Soviets. Why? The war against Iraq was to protect Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

      Then 9/11. The goal afterwards should have been to obliterate Saudi Arabia–a primitive country with nothing to offer except to carry on the legacy of Standard Oil. Instead, that crazy man Osama bin Laden was allowed to escape–just because he had Saudi connections.

      There have been Islamic advances but not due to Muslim ideological prowess–but rather the U.S. protecting Saudi Arabia.

  16. somehistory says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 11:41 pm

    This is so illogical. When people research a topic, whatever the topic might be, those people go to the *source* and ask questions, make observations; and if what they wish to know has to do with a group or a culture, they go to these and listen to what the group believes about itself, etc.

    If a scientist wants to know about monkeys, he doesn’t go to spiders to find out what the monkeys like to eat and where they spend most of their time and what makes them get along with the group or fight with other monkeys. Spiders would not be able to tell the scientist anything about monkeys. Unless, it is a spider monkey. But just plain spiders, no.

    But these fools that think they know so much about moslims, and islam and its means of motivating people to murder, rape, and commit terrible acts of violence and terrorism, go, not to the ones who know *why,* but to other fools who tell lies and fabricate *motivations* that only cause more mayhem and murder, evil, and terrorism.

    jasser is a fool because he knows that there is no *reform.* He likes the attention he gets from people asking him questions about islam. He wouldn’t last long among the members of isis unless he quickly changed his tune.

    The wild beast of islam, created by satan the devil, will be defeated. Christ has the means, the will and the authority to defeat islam and the demon who fathered it.

  17. TJFreedomjihad says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    THE GANG OF ISLAM IS THE FUNDAMENTAL TRAINING OF PARASITES OF CIVILIZATION, to amputate, hate, murder, rape, torture, inflict maximum pain, control women, and all else, lie, thieve, commit crimes unlimited, and never love anyone, except sex and 72 virgins in mythical afterlife. That sums up their 1400 years of history, their koran, hadiths (sunna), sura, and their sharia, succinctly!!!!!

    So dumb was mohammad (allah) he thought planets were beyond stars, female human gestation lasted only 6 months….

    No religion ever, including Aztecs, taught or practiced any such criminal orthodoxy, and universal hatred, ever! It is not nor ever was a religion. That was part of its included design of deceit-don’t’ forget: “allah is the best of deceivers” and kitman, etc. It was intentional design of an evil conquering gang, not religion.

    Aztecs had paganistic rituals, as did others including human sacrifice, any kind of rituals do not a religion make. It is a bankrupt professor or preacher type joke to equate paganistic rituals of occasional human sacrifice by primitives, with long established truly respectful religious beliefs.

    Even Jew and Christian animal offerings have been long ago superseded with symbolic efforts, with development of civilization, for those who concern themselves with deep fundamental reenactment. The rest concern themselves with the vast lessons and principles of Judeo-Christianity.

    But muslims are required, all of them, to do exactly as 1400 years ago was required, and without change, whatsoever, the worst of the criminals in history. The fact that most yet do not practice full criminality, means only for the moment, as someday they will have to choose, as human mole parasites of civilization. Some will activate, not just celebrate, with candies, and cheers, other muslims murders and butchery, and others will murder, and a few will be repulsed by what they are finally told.

    Remember, isn’t it a powerful aphrodisiac intoxicant of the mind, especially to losers, a kind of mental grooming, when you are told time and again, you are the “best of people” because you are a muslim?!!!

    That neither even Gorka, nor certainly the dangerous to America McMasters, know any real part of the above is appalling.

    I had been concerned with Gorka over some remarks he has made, but figured he maybe knew the whole truth, but for the public was holding back. Perhaps not so. But definitely McMasters is going to get people killed or worse, with incompetence, in ‘knowing your enemy’.

    Perhaps there are plans to make him temporary, that we know nothing of, one can hope.

  18. b.a. freeman says

    Mar 2, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    when i first heard that gen. mcmaster had been appointed, i was thrilled, but THAT was before i heard that he believes the same crap that obama was handing out. he is another who is too lazy to check out islam – or a traitor who *wants* the u.s. to die.

    as for gorka, i have heard him in little soundbites on fox news, and i never heard him say that islam is the enemy (which it is); OTOH, i never heard that he said that it is not the enemy. apparently he, too, is a fool or a traitor.

    Lord, help us, because with leaders like this, we will certainly fail.

  19. Steve Daly says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 12:23 am

    McMaster was famous for helping pacify Northern Iraq during the surge and seeking to win the hearts and minds of the people. So how successful was this in Iraq? We have American wounded warriors returning home with horrible injuries from Iranian supplied IEDs. Or with uncontrollable PTSD from nightly mortar attacks. After we left,the Iraqi army disintegrated in the face of ISIS. It wasn’t until the Iranians came in and gave the Iraqi Shiite military some backbone that they started to defeat ISIS. “Hearts and Minds” was ultimately a failure. So how will McMaster with his personal interpretation of intelligence data help the President? More likely it will just be another leaker added to the mix.

  20. Relic says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 1:16 am

  21. bobm says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 1:35 am

    Nile fever.. de nile… the lobotomy .. mark of the beast .. the father of lies … seduction… the prince of the power of the air sends forth his flies fill the ears of man.. to lay their eggs in the eyes..

  22. Sancho Panza says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 1:42 am

    McMaster uses Obama’s term for ISIS – ISIL. He, McMaster, is an Obama stooge!

  23. Dacritic says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 3:28 am

    Trump himself has to understand Islam is fundamentally evil.

  24. Bill Houston says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 3:47 am

    “Islam is Islam”. Recep Erdogan is actually being honest here. He is truly offended by the concept of “moderate Islam”. It’s like calling a schoolyard bully, a nice guy. “Moderate” is such a pleasant and agreeable word. it conjures up images of moderate boxing matches and “nice” hockey as opposed to ice hockey. Wake up everybody! Erdogan doesn’t WANT people thinking he’s moderate and nice. He wants to be respected and… yes…. feared, because he knows that when people fear and respect you, they do what they’re told. And Islam must be feared for that very same reason. “So, tell all those weak-kneed, feminized sissy men in the West that their days are numbered because Islam is Islam!” God help us all.

  25. duh swami says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 3:55 am

    With leaders like this ‘hate crimes’ against Islam in the US will morph into legitimate self defense…If the gov is too stupid to protect you, you must protect.
    That may require direct action…an some gonads…

  26. Debi Brand says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 3:58 am

    Robert stated:

    It is unfortunate and disquieting that this denial and willful ignorance continues in the Trump administration. One cannot defeat an enemy that one does not understand, much less one that one refuses to understand. President Trump continues to speak about “radical Islamic terrorism” while hiring people who remain in Obamoid fantasyland. This must be clarified.

    With due respect, Robert, it has been clarified. Done so in the words of the author of the above article:

    “Unfit for Duty,” ….

    The new National Security Advisor – Lieutenant General Herbert Raymond McMaster – and the Counter-Terrorism advisor to the President of the United States – Sebastian Gorka – both unequivocally state the “terrorist” threat America faces has nothing to do with “true” Islam.
    Both men are catastrophically wrong and, therefore, are leading America down a disastrous road towards defeat.

    Indeed.

    Trump’s position and that of his administration is made perfectly clear, as spoken to above, by his actions, his appointees, and the beliefs they hold and propagate.

    Thus, summed up in, “Keeping LtGen McMaster and Sebastian Gorka in their current positions will ensure America remains strategically incoherent and will guarantee our defeat in this war against the Global Islamic Movement…. our federal government is still failing us.”

  27. El Cid 2 says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 4:34 am

    Remember the story of Alexander the Great and the Gordian knot. Legend had it that whoever could unravel the knot would become master of Asia Minor. Many had failed. The knot had many complexities much like the complex problem of Islam and the existential threat to Western Democracy. But one masterful blow from Alexander’s razor sharp sword cut the knot asunder. In a similar way we need a simple but incisive solution. The time for bold action has come, not more half measures or partial solutions.

  28. DR JOHN says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 5:43 am

    Robert, your knowledge of Islam is, in my opinion, unparalleled. You have hundreds of thousands of followers here in the UK who are relying on you getting a meeting with Trump to ensure that he knows that there is only one Islam and that it is this that is the problem, even greater than a nuclear holocaust. Many on the right here in the UK have given up hope that the Islamophile, Teresa May who believes that Islam is a “religion of peace”, will ever challenge Islam, and that we are already lost to Sharia here in the not too distant future, with the full support of the extreme left opposition parties, There will eventually be civil war in the UK in my young children’s life,I am sure. Our hope WAS Trump, but it is becoming clear that that “hope” was misplaced. ROBERT, YOU ARE OUR HOPE, and that is a great burden. It is time for a massive advertising campaign that does no more than quote directly from the Qur’an it’s most vile verses, as Frank Anderson has suggested in these comments. Even my decent Muslim neighbors have no idea that the “sword verses” exist!!! Their are deliberately misled by Imams telling them that theirs is a “religion of peace”. They are shocked when the TRUTH is pointed out to them!!!

  29. Virginia says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 5:58 am

    Any military top brass who survived the Obama purges must be held suspect. Why didn’t Trump choose from the many “retired” Generals who definitely know the truth about our enemies? Is Trump naive, or is there method behind his choices? Why isn’t he doing something immediately about the ISIS training camps already active within our borders? The FBI knows where they are and what they are up to. We the People have to keep this administration’s feet to the fire. Our representatives in Congress never did and won’t now.

  30. RichardL says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 7:29 am

    I know Gorka. I have heard him speak and whenever I heard him, he clearly stated that islam is the problem and that islamism is political islam and cannot be meaningfully separated from islam. Maybe he is just a little bit more cautious in public?

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 1:34 pm

      I don’t know Mr. Gorka, but I have heard him many times. You are right about him. It is not wisw to try to undermine the President after one month in office.

  31. JawsV says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 8:07 am

    I don’t get these intelligent people not understanding Islam. I understood Islam on September 11, 2001.

    • underbed cat says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 9:51 pm

      You understood, JawsV….but when the facts were disclosed in the 9/11 Commission Report, and the use of migration, terror and the goal to destroy economy of the U.S., many did not get the original information since it was quickly republished without the connecting doctrine that does not allow this to be known. How did they get the influence to to change the book? Well that was established years prior, by achieving political power thru migration, support organizations that no one saw as a threat or even had a hint that they could control information and not appear as really preparing for subversion. So if the doctrine is not understood, it will continue.

      • underbed cat says

        Mar 3, 2017 at 9:54 pm

        The doctrine shows the struggle is for a caliphate,and the establishment of sharia and use of terror to weaken our will.

  32. Sam says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 9:20 am

    Robert,

    I hope you are wrong. Otherwise we will not start the war on Islam. Evil will continue to win.

    Man, truth really hurts!

  33. Terry Gain says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 10:04 am

    Imagine there’s no Islam

    It’s easy if you try
    No bombs below us
    Above us only sky
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace

    Imagine there’s no more lying
    It isn’t hard to do
    Nothing stupid to kill or die for
    And no false religion, too
    Imagine all the people
    Living life in peace… You…

    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the world will be as one

    Imagine no more Islam
    I wonder if you can
    No need for sharia or suffering
    Not that brotherhood of man
    Imagine all the people
    In peace around all the world… You…

    You may say I’m a dreamer
    But I’m not the only one
    I hope someday you’ll join us
    And the peaceful will live as one

  34. duh swami says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Ban Islam or suffer the consequences…

    • Debi Brand says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 2:00 pm

      “Ban Islam or suffer the consequences…”

      No way on the former, therefore, we will “happily”–for the sake of Allah and his noble great religion- accept the latter…

  35. Screeminmeeme says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 11:34 am

    I could not agree more. I thank God daily for Robert Spencer who is willing to daily speak the truth about Islam in the face of overwhelming propaganda by its apologists….like McMaster and Gorka.

    How disappointing these revelations are……but important for us to know. So, let us act upon that knowledge and convey our sentiments to President Trump and his administration.

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  36. Francis Merde says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 11:45 am

    I understand Robert’s concerns, but he’s jumping the gun a bit. After McMaster assumed his role, some people thought that Trump would tone down his rhetoric on Islam when he addressed Congress. THAT DIDN’T HAPPEN. It’s pretty clear that Trump is in the driver’s seat, and ff McMaster proves himself to be incompetent, then Trump will just fire him. Firing people was his whole schtick on The Apprentice.

  37. Franklin P. Uroda says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 12:46 pm

    An article (28 Feb 2017) in The Pilot, by a Roman Catholic priest-Fr. Thomas Michel-in Vatican City reads delusional re: Islam, saying that it’s a Religion of Peace, etc., and even quotes an important Roman Catholic source to back up his assumptions. ” Vatican City, Feb 28, 2017 CNA.- Not only is there a good deal in common between Muslims and Christians, but Catholics are called to respect and work together with those who practice the Muslim faith in recognition of truth and goodness they do possess, said Islam scholar Fr. Thomas Michel.

    Fr. Michel, who holds a Ph.D. in Islamic Theology and worked under Pope John Paul II as head of the Vatican Office for Relations with Muslims, told CNA that Benedict XVI, like both St. John Paul II and Pope Francis, have all repeated the same message regarding Muslims – that of the Second Vatican Council.

    “The document Nostrae aetate says that the Church has ‘esteem’ for Muslims,” he said. “It doesn’t mean that we should just tolerate Muslims or put up with Muslims. ‘Esteem’ means to try to see what people have that’s good and appreciate them for that.”

    The major “common point” between Christianity and Islam, Fr. Michel said, is that both faiths believe in the existence of only one God, and that both are trying to do what this one God wants.

    Therefore, “how can we be enemies with people who are also, like us, trying to worship the one God?” he said. “Since the time of the Second Vatican Council, we’ve seen that part of our work as Christians is to be in dialogue with people of other faiths.”

    “And this means not only talking to them and listening to them, but it also means cooperating with them, working together with them for good.”

    This dialogue, Fr. Michel emphasized, isn’t just about making peace with each other, although that is important, but is about “the kind of world we live in” and how that makes it important that we all come to know each other better.

    Fr. Michel noted that when the Fathers of the Council taught us, they didn’t deny the past conflict and tension between Catholics and Muslims, but they did say that it is in the past, and “what we have to do now is work together for the common good.”

    The document Nostrae aetate is the declaration on the relation of the Church to non-Christian religions from the Second Vatican Council, promulgated by Pope Paul VI on October 28, 1965.

    Fr. Michel referenced a part of the document that says that the Church “rejects nothing that is true and holy in these religions. She regards with sincere reverence those ways of conduct and of life, those precepts and teachings which, though differing in many aspects from the ones she holds and sets forth, nonetheless often reflect a ray of that Truth which enlightens all men.”

    “The Church, therefore,” it continues, “exhorts her sons, that through dialogue and collaboration with the followers of other religions, carried out with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life, they recognize, preserve and promote the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the socio-cultural values found among these men.”

    Four ways we can collaborate with Muslims or those of other faiths, Fr. Michel said, is by together working to build peace, and to promote social justice, “true human values,” and “true human freedom.”

    A Jesuit, Fr. Thomas Michel has lived and worked among Muslims himself for many years, particularly in Turkey. He first went to Indonesia, joining the order’s Indonesia Province, in 1969.

    Fr. Michel worked in the Vatican under Pope John Paul II from 1981-1994 as head of the Office for Relations with Muslims. From 2013-2016 he taught religious studies at the School of Foreign Service of Georgetown University in Doha, Qatar.

    For 2016-2017, Fr. Michel joined the teaching staff at the Pontifical Institute for Arabic and Islamic Studies in Rome, where he gave a lecture Feb. 23.

    His lecture on Contemporary Islam, titled “A Christian Encounter with Said Nursi’s Risale-i Nur,” gave a Christian analysis of the Risale-i Nur Collection, an interpretation on the Qur’an written by Bediuzzaman Said Nursi between the 1910s and 1950s in Turkey.

    Summing up the teachings in what is a 6,000 page collection, Fr. Michel told CNA that Nursi “was trying to help Muslims live their faith in a lively way in modern terms.”

    “He said you don’t have to live in the past, you don’t have to have nostalgia for earlier times.” The idea Nursi tried to convey, Fr. Michel explained, is that modernity is not the enemy of faith, “but a patient in need of the spiritual medicine faith provides.”

    Nursi said, according to Fr. Michel, that “our enemies aren’t this group of people or that group of people.” Instead, he said our enemies are ignorance, poverty and disunity. And these are not only the enemies of Muslims, but of everyone.

    Fr. Michel said that Nursi taught that to fight these common enemies everyone must work together, using both faith and reason.

    According to Fr. Michel, there are somewhere around 5-12 million people who try to live the Qur’an according to the teachings of Nursi, depending on how you measure the level of commitment.

    The majority of these Muslims are in Turkey, but some can be found in central Asia, places in Europe and even in the U.S. It isn’t a formal movement per se, but some people devote their lives to studying Nursi’s teachings and others try to study it in the midst of living their normal lives, he said.

    If worried about Islamic extremists or that the Muslim religion will overwhelm Christian values in Western society, Fr. Michel said to try to remember that in the case of refugees, they “want the same things that normal Americans want.”

    They want “to raise their children to be good God-fearing people, and to have a life, to have a job, to enjoy simple enjoyments. They’re no different than we are,” he said.

    He said that in his experience, those who have negative attitudes about Muslims have only experienced the religion through TV or the newspaper, but that those “who know Muslims…have a very different attitude.”

    “I’ve lived among thousands of Muslims…The people that I’ve lived with in many different countries, they go from birth to death, and from children to grandchildren, and there’s no violence in their lives,” he said.

    “The average Muslim sees Islam as a religion of peace.”

  38. Carolyne says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    Mr. Trump has been President a little more than a month. In that time he has made efforts to control the flow of Muslims into the US until we are able to separate the wheat from the chaff. Gen. McMasters might have said some things in the past which indicate he does not fully understand the threat that Islam poses, but perhaps he will learn. Mr. Gorka has shown time and time again on various TV shows, mainly FOX, that he understands the problem.
    The President has three years and eleven month to go. What he has already done is remarkable. Do not start undermining him now. Cut him some slack. He has not filled the White House with Muslims as did our last President and I do not believe he will do so. He has my full support.

  39. Andy says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    McMaster is 10 times better than anyone else you could hope for in this role. McMaster is a genius, and true warrior. Ask any 3ACR guy.

    So McMaster is not 100% against all muslims. Trump’s not perfect either. He’s better than Hillary.

    Get over yourselves. McMaster is the best you’ll get. Ever.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 3, 2017 at 11:20 pm

      So you are saying that the best we can possibly hope for is someone who denies that Islam itself presents a threat. If you are right, then we are probably doomed.

  40. Eric Jones says

    Mar 3, 2017 at 6:48 pm

    I am troubled by the fact that Trump allows himself to be surrounded by people who do not share his views. Trump must realize that he is no longer in the business world. That he is worlking with persons who want to use state power for their own purpose. Trump must ensure that those he has around him share his objectives.

    Given the above McMcmaster and Gorka should not be advising Trump. Preibus must go. Trump shpuld fire all of the disennters in the State Dept. All of the agencies should be cleaned up of the Obamaites, Bush’s and Clintonoids. I hope Trump wakes up.

    Eric

  41. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Mar 4, 2017 at 7:39 pm

    Who is this absurd and asinine Dr. Dorka, anyway, and what are his qualifications to be taken at all seriously on a topic about which he either obviously knows nothing, or knows but is so scared he is quite prepared to sacrifice the rest of our lives in order to cover his own ass by telling obvious lies about it?!

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