What your views on Russia and Islam say about your politics… A specter is haunting Europe and the United States. Well, actually, two of them: The supposed menace of the Kremlin, meddling in the affairs of Western democracies, and the putative threat of Islam, infiltrating Western society and destroying it from within. Both visions are overblown (particularly the latter). But whether you fear Russians or Muslims has become a curious indicator of partisan alignments in the United States
Right off the bat, it isn’t difficult to see through the absurd moral equivalence of the WaPo, in comparing “views about Russia” with “views about Islam.” The imprudence of such a comparison is made clear by the facts. Let’s be reasonable, shall we? Where are there any facts about ousted national security adviser Michael T. Flynn and Attorney General Jeff Sessions that would warrant any hysteria about dealings with Russia? It is an overblown fear that Democrats and their cronies are fanning and flaming.
Fears relating to Islam, however, are based on sound evidence. Ubiquitous and copious reports confirm that Muslim migrants have committed mass rapes of multitudes of girls and women; Islamic State jihadists have infiltrated the refugee stream; tens of thousands of Muslims from all over the world have joined the Islamic State; jihad attacks on Western soil have sent the costs of security soaring; billions of dollars are being spent by German taxpayers to clean up the migrant chaos; 80 percent of Swedish police are considering quitting over migrant dangers; millions are being (and have been) murdered and persecuted by jihadists and even gruesomely executed by Sharia states, including Muslim “apostates”; calls for attacks on the West by the Islamic State and al Qaeda are ongoing; etc. Finally, there is indeed a Muslim Brotherhood plan aimed at North America to destroy it from within (if anyone at WaPo actually read it). What is the WaPo not understanding?
This simple-minded equivalence of “views on Russia and Islam” and what each says “about your politics” is embarrassing at best, treacherously propagandist at worst. The WaPo ran another such article in January; it also made a bizarre comparison while trying to intimidate those who advocate for a declaration that the Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist group. The WaPo stated:
The statute also criminalizes “expert advice or assistance.” At first glance, this is also not necessarily troubling. If one agrees that it is reasonable to prevent a U.S. citizen from advising al-Qaeda or the Islamic State on how to hide money or build weapons, then the argument follows that there is not an unqualified right to provide “expert advice or assistance” to a terrorist organization resulting from the right to speech or association….. According to interpretations of the law, it is also illegal to provide any organization on the State Department’s list of terrorist organizations (or even just “terrorists” not on the official list) with “expert advice or assistance” even if it aims at peaceful, or even peacemaking, aims.
“What your views on Russia and Islam say about your politics”, by Ishaan Tharoor, Washington Post, March 3, 2017:
A specter is haunting Europe and the United States. Well, actually, two of them: The supposed menace of the Kremlin, meddling in the affairs of Western democracies, and the putative threat of Islam, infiltrating Western society and destroying it from within.
Both visions are overblown (particularly the latter). But whether you fear Russians or Muslims has become a curious indicator of partisan alignments in the United States. A similar dynamic also seems to be emerging on the other side of the Atlantic.
After a fleeting reprieve, the Trump administration is yet again buffeted by controversy surrounding its contacts with Russian officials. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has now joined ousted national security adviser Michael T. Flynn in apparently misleading U.S. authorities when questioned about his contacts with Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak. (For now, the substance of the conversations between the two men isn’t the issue.)
On Wednesday night, my colleagues broke the story of two previously undisclosed meetings last year between Sessions and Kislyak. On Thursday, amid a media firestorm, Sessions recused himself from ongoing investigations into alleged Russian interference in the 2016 presidential campaign. He may now also face a fight for his job: Leading Democratic politicians are calling for his resignation — and for a special prosecutor to launch an investigation into the Trump campaign’s Russia ties.
The partisan bickering in Washington mirrors a broader, deeply fractured political landscape. Overall, as a Gallup poll published last month revealed, American attitudes toward Russian President Vladimir Putin have grown more and more negative over the past decade.
But there is a pronounced partisan split, with Putin’s favorability among Republicans jumping some 20 points over the course of a campaign now shadowed by allegations of Russian meddling.
Defenders of the Trump administration are already lashing out at the Democrats’ supposed witch-hunt, arguing that the contacts with Kislyak — a diplomat whose job it is to meet local politicians and power-brokers — are being overplayed and that the Democratic uproar is simply a case of sour grapes.
It seems ironic that Republicans, who spent decades aggressively grandstanding on any threat posed by Moscow, now look benignly upon Putin. But, as we noted earlier, there is a genuine ideological affinity between some American conservatives and Russia’s right-wing, nationalist leader.
Meanwhile, Democrats seem unconvinced about Trump’s fear-mongering and promises of civilizational war with Islam: A separate Gallup poll also published last month found a huge gulf between Republicans and Democrats over Trump’s attempts to halt Syrian refugee resettlement, underscoring a pronounced ideological divide over immigration and attitudes toward Muslims. A large majority of Democrats do want to see further investigations into Russian activities and disapprove of Trump’s supposed friendliness toward Moscow.
Increasingly, what you choose to get animated about — the hand of Russia or the cultural danger posed by Islam — marks out your electoral choices, as well. The battle lines may be more stark in the U.S., but they’ve been clearly drawn on both sides of the Atlantic.
In Europe, leading far-right politicians, including French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen, have publicly stood up for Russia in the face of E.U. censure. In some cases, far-right European parties maintain direct ties to the Kremlin.
Meanwhile, Le Pen’s critics in the French political establishment have for weeks been pointing to alleged acts of Russian meddling in the French elections, including reports of hacking targeting Le Pen’s main opponents. “This kind of interference in French democratic life is unacceptable,” said Foreign Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault last month. “The French will not accept anyone dictating their [electoral] choices.”
According to German officials, Chancellor Angela Merkel, who has long been warning about apparent Russian interference in European elections, is now Europe’s “main target of fake news articles” — an online disinformation campaign some E.U. officials are connecting to Moscow…..
Angemon says
“Lashing out”? Anyway, you’re generally correct. Please, continue.
Huh, what? How is such an asinine assertion derived from the previous statement? Saying that contacts between diplomats are being overplayed by the Democrats is NOT the same as “look benignly on Putin”.
So, basically, the “fear of Russia” you mentioned is not unfounded – despite your attempt to assert otherwise – when there’s proven interference of Russia in politics of other nations, let alone its violation of foreign exclusive aerial and sea spaces. I think I’m starting to see what it takes to get a job at the Wapo – push a narrative and disregard the facts.
Anyway, Ishaan Tharoor sounds like an Indian name. Maybe Mr. Tharoor should spend a couple months living undercover as a working-class Hindu in a muslim-majority part of India and see how that turns out for him…
mortimer says
Fact-based reasoning looks for evidence. Slander-peddling needs no evidence. The things wrong with the Russian KLEPTOCRACY are OBVIOUS: Russia is a crony-capitalist dictatorship. Putin’s pals get all the loot, while the Russians languish in poverty and opposition parties and journalists are silenced in jails.
No evidence has surfaced to prove undue Russian electoral influence. This is a smokescreen from the Dems dirty tricks brigade. There is much evidence of Dem dirty tricks, but will they be prosecuted? I hope so.
The Washington Post’s whitewashing of Islam is surely evidence that their owners are in cahoots with Gulf oil money. It’s hideous that Washington Post is trying to put Americans to sleep about the jihad threat which continues to inspire well over 200 million Muslims who self-report in surveys as supporting various terror groups.
Shame on Washington Post. Until they start being realistic about jihad, people should simply refuse to buy it and boycott their advertisers.
Christianblood says
mortimer
You don’t know Russia and Russians and their history so please stop your nonsensical ignorant rumblings!
vladkoval says
Everyone knows Russia and Russians and their history – Orda, Despotic Tsarism (favoring to Islam), slavery (called “serfdom”, krepostnoye pravo), backwardness, backwardness, Revolutions of 1917, Bolsheviks, communistic despotism, Stalinism, pacting with Hitler, Hitler (the Stalin’s buddy ) attacks communistic USSR, which survived due to American help, Cold War, anti-Israel stance, assisting Islamic terrorism as tool against “the damned capitalists”, losing of Cold War after sanctions laid by Raegan, collapse of USSR, ….Putin’s revanche… sanctions laid by USA and EU, ..now you guess what goes next))
vladkoval says
Christianblood sayd:
“I don’t care about respect or rating, I only care about the Truth and that Truth of the matter is that” … he who posts in Russia that Quran is religious heresy and lie and is the source of inspiration for all Jihadis – he goes to prison in Russia)))
Christianblood says
Vladkoval
You are an ignorant and a liar only motivated by blind hatred of Russia! Please understand Karl Marx was not a Russian and his communism was not an indigenous ideology to Russia. Karl Marx ideology was a part of the long-standing, centuries old Western ambition to destroy Russia.
Over a period of approximately 300 years, Russia was invaded by foreign armies on five occasions – and all five invasions came through Russian’s western borders. In 1605, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invaded; in 1708, Sweden invaded; in 1812, France invaded; in 1918, Imperial Germany invaded; and in 1941, Nazi Germany invaded. Russians don’t give it a dime for the so-called “free west” and its godless, materialistic, pro-islamic ideologies! Russians just want to be safe in their country and keep their own culture, faith and way of life. Russians don’t want to see another destructive Western invasion and war of aggression that will come from the West. Remember, Russia was invaded by marauding Western aggressor armies over a period of approximately 300 years, Those destructive, marauding Western armies invaded Russia on five occasions through Russian’s western borders. In 1605, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invaded; in 1708, Sweden invaded; in 1812, France invaded; in 1918, Imperial Germany invaded; and in 1941, Nazi Germany invaded. And now, once again, Western aggressors who hate Russia are gathering their armies on the Russia’s Western borders to invade and destroy Russia. I know, all Americans and almost all of the people in the West don’t even know this fact but for Russia this is a question of national survival. Please read Dr. Marcus’s piece on this on the link below:
http://theduran.com/action-reaction-russia-responding-growing-threats-west-says-dr-marcus-papadopoulos/
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“You are an ignorant and a liar only motivated by blind hatred of Russia!”
And there it is – the ubiquitous charge of “hatred of Russia”. Like a monkey with its feces or a muslim shouting “islamophobia!!!” (but I repeat myself).
“Please understand Karl Marx was not a Russian”
Neither was Jesus Christ. Your point being?
“and his communism was not an indigenous ideology to Russia.”
Neither is Christianity. Your point being?
“Karl Marx ideology was a part of the long-standing, centuries old Western ambition to destroy Russia.”
Lol!!! I’ve read a lot of stupid s*** from you, but this takes the cake!
“Over a period of approximately 300 years, Russia was invaded by foreign armies on five occasions – and all five invasions came through Russian’s western borders.”
Really? Even the Mongol Empire? Man, I never knew the Mongols were Westerners! BTW, how many times did Russia invaded other countries during that era?
“In 1605, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invaded; in 1708, Sweden invaded; in 1812, France invaded; in 1918, Imperial Germany invaded; and in 1941, Nazi Germany invaded.”
5 occasions, 5 different nations – why the blanket ascription to “the West”? Oh, and didn’t Russia had a pact to divide Eastern Europe with Nazi Germany? It seems to me there might be more to those stories than your “Russia was being nice and innocent but then the evil West INVADED!!!!!” nonsense…
“Russians don’t give it a dime for the so-called “free west” and its godless, materialistic, pro-islamic ideologies!”
No, Russia has its own pro-islamic ideology. Name me one Western nation that recorded a jihadi as a hero, like Russia did with Kadyrov. The man told his followers to kill as many Russians as possible and he had a bridge named after him – how is that not being pro-islamic? And preaching the Gospel in the street is prohibited by law while beating your wife isn’t. Russia? More like Russistan…
“Russians just want to be safe in their country and keep their own culture, faith and way of life.”
Is that why you invaded Ukraine?
“Russians don’t want to see another destructive Western invasion and war of aggression that will come from the West. Remember, Russia was invaded by marauding Western aggressor armies over a period of approximately 300 years,”
Yes, you keep repeating that. “Blah blah, West bad”. How many nations did you invade during that period? Didn’t you invade Germany, and mass-raped German women,with an army that had millions of muslims in its ranks?
“Those destructive, marauding Western armies invaded Russia on five occasions through Russian’s western borders. In 1605, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth invaded; in 1708, Sweden invaded; in 1812, France invaded; in 1918, Imperial Germany invaded; and in 1941, Nazi Germany invaded.”
You keep repeating this as if it means something. Didn’t you got in bed with the Nazis to divide Eastern Europe amongst the two of you? Didn’t you took an army with millions of muslims and mass-raped German women? Didn’t Russia invaded other nations in its history? Can you blame former vassal states of the USSR for not wanting Russian tanks and troops on their streets?
“And now, once again, Western aggressors who hate Russia are gathering their armies on the Russia’s Western borders to invade and destroy Russia.”
Citation needed. Which nation is doing that?
“I know, all Americans and almost all of the people in the West don’t even know this fact but for Russia this is a question of national survival.”
National survival? The invasion of Ukraine? Lol! Russia must be in a really deplorable state if Ukraine posed a danger for its survival… Anyway, you want national survival? Fine – start by replacing the thief in the Kremlin withsomeone who is actually concerned in improving Russia, as opposed to filling his, and his cronies’, pockets.
gravenimage says
Do you have a link, vladkoval?
gravenimage says
Christianblood wrote:
Please understand Karl Marx was not a Russian and his communism was not an indigenous ideology to Russia. Karl Marx ideology was a part of the long-standing, centuries old Western ambition to destroy Russia.
…………………
I’m sorry–this is silly. The West did not impose Communism on Russia, and in fact it was the West that *opposed* Communism.
And an interesting aside is that Marx himself did not believe that a Communist revolution would be successful in Russia, so even he wasn’t pushing it there.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“You don’t know Russia and Russians and their history so please stop your nonsensical ignorant rumblings!”
Says the guy who keeps spouting ignorance after ignorance about the Western world, ascribing it all sort of malevolence… And speaking of it, are you still living in a Western nation? I’ve asked you this dozens of times and I have yet to get an answer. Are you?
More Ham Ed says
LOOK – EVERYONE REPORT THIS ‘CHRISTIANBLOOD’ (OFFENSIVE USERNAME) VIA THE CONTACT LINK ON THIS SITE FOR TROLLING, INCESSANT INSULTS, DEFAMATORY POSTS ETC. FLOOD THE CONTACT LINK
Christianblood says
More Ham Ed
(..LOOK – EVERYONE REPORT THIS ‘CHRISTIANBLOOD’ (OFFENSIVE USERNAME)..)
May I ask why the word “Christianblood” is offensive to you???
Christianblood says
More Ham Ed posted
(..LOOK – EVERYONE REPORT THIS ‘CHRISTIANBLOOD’ (OFFENSIVE USERNAME..)
You are a hater of Christ! This is is the reason: There are hundreds of thousands of Christians whose blood is being shed by Western and US-backed islamic terrorists and the word “Christianblood” is offensive to you???
You are the type of people about which Jesus said:
(..Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness…)
You are a Christ-hating hypocrite!
alex9234 says
What’s this? A Theodore Shoebat wannabe? Heh, I also bet that you support Communist China and also have an unending supply of vitriol for Japan, like Theodore Shoebat and his father, Walid.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“There are hundreds of thousands of Christians whose blood is being shed by Western and US-backed islamic terrorists ”
And here it is, another tacit admission of CB’s goal here: pin evils on “the West” and “the US”. I ask you, where is Christianblood when the topic is the persecution of Christians in, for example, Iran, Iran being in bed with Russia? Nowhere to be found, that’s where – CB suffers from selective outrage. The spilling of Christian blood is fine with Christianblood just as long as it’s being done by Russia’s allies, but as soon as he can try to blame it on “the West” or “the US”, he starts raving like a madman.
“You are the type of people about which Jesus said:
(..Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness…)”
No, that would be you, as I just demonstrated: jumping to the forefront, filled with self-righteousness and holier-than-though bravado and political correctness (for what is not his attempts at shaming everything and everyone who dares to criticize Russia if not the crystallization of political correctness?), but scurrying away with its tail between its legs when it comes to defending Christians dying in Iran. That is nothing short of evil.
Christianblood says
This is text is from St. Mathew 23:27-28
Peggy says
Trying to round up a possie and screaming about it is not going to get you what you want.
If you wish to report someone posting here then do so via proper channels and explain what you find offensive and why you think someone is a troll.
If you truly believe in democracy then everyone has a right to express their views and reply to whoever they want (that has already been established by some users here) whether you agree with that or not so we can’t have it both ways.
There are people replying to CB who are far from courteous. Shall they be forced to leave this site as well? Think about it.
Cretius says
Bang on! Well said.
Angemon says
Peggy posted:
“If you wish to report someone posting here then do so via proper channels and explain what you find offensive and why you think someone is a troll.”
Wasn’t that what More Ham Ed did when he asked people to report CB via the contact staff?
“If you truly believe in democracy then everyone has a right to express their views and reply to whoever they want (that has already been established by some users here) whether you agree with that or not so we can’t have it both ways.”
She said, while telling someone not to post something she doesn’t like. Hypocrisy much? BTW, that someone has a right to express their views (and JW has a spotless record regarding letting people speak their minds), no matter how ignorant and ill-informed they may be, doesn’t entitle them to a platform and audience, nor does it shields them from negative reactions they get from spouting their ignorant and ill-informed views, which it seems to be what you have a problem with. Finally, CB is not “expressing views”, he’s passing baseless falsehoods and petty personal attacks as facts. If you state something as a fact, you better be prepared to have it scrutinized and make sure you can defend it – you won’t get away with claiming “MUH FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!” if you’re spouting bulls*** and are called out on it.
“There are people replying to CB who are far from courteous.”
Isn’t it funny how you leave CB out of your scrutiny? For example, he called someone “ignorant”, “liar” and accused them of being “motivated by blind hatred of Russia”. Was that “courteous”? If not, how far from “courteous” must one be to catch your eye and be on the receiving end of your politically-correct finger wagging? Or are you simply a partisan who is running interference for someone whose posts you happen to approve, using “freedom of speech” as cloak of invisibility? Are you affiliated with the site or its staff? If not, why are you acting as the courteousness police?
“Shall they be forced to leave this site as well? Think about it.”
Who is trying to force who to leave? And why would people replying to CB be forced to leave? Clearly, according to More Ham Ed, CB is in the wrong – why should he think that the people who are tearing CB’s arguments apart are as passable to be forced out as CB?
gravenimage says
More Ham Ed, I am certainly not an uncritical fan of Christianblood, to put it mildly. He hates the free West, and whitewashes Russia’s oppression and appeasement of Islam.
That being said, his username is not a call for the spilling of Christian blood, but just a rather unhealthy reference to Christian victimization.
berserker says
The moment I see WaPo, I move on. I have no patience for the Bezos Blog. In any case, isn’t this so-called newspaper a front for the CIA?
John Magne Trane says
The “right wing” KGB agent Putin…
Boston Tea Party says
Huh, I must have missed the millions and millions of self-identified Putin-supporting Russians who have emigrated in the last twenty years, taken up residence in the West and are constantly demanding concessions for their beliefs, forming countless terror cells and unleashing regular acts of murder and sabotage.
Christianblood says
(..WaPo: Fears of (Russia) destroying Western society..)
This is fake news 101 sponsored by the globalist, pro-jihadist, pro-islamic and Russophobic misinformation masters in the CIA. Jimmy Dore says it well in the nine minute video clip below. Please watch it:
Angemon says
Says the Russian troll quoting one of the “liberal Westerners” he hates and despise so much to “defend” his “point”. Apparently, since a leftard failed comedian, failed political commentator turned dilophossaurus (Jimmy Dore is the guy who spat on Alex Jones) is repeating Russian propaganda points, he must be telling the truth!
alex9234 says
This “Christianblood” guy sounds too much like the Shoebats, who are also big time Russian trolls who will defend every word that comes from Putin’s mouth.
vladkoval says
Yes. Russia is no threat for the West. After all, even the miser Ukraine is still standing against Russia
Christianblood says
Vladkoval
Please watch the ten minute talk as this well-informed Russian monk discusses the real reason why the materialistic and godless West hates and despises Russia for so many centuries:
Peggy says
Geez, get off this Ukraine victim rubbish.
If you want to blame anyone, then start blaming Soros and western leaders who lit the fuse by overthrowing a democratically elected government to put their puppet in place as they have done in many other places.
You really need to understand the history of that region to be able to grasp what is really happening.
Funny how MSM is to be believed when it comes to Russia but nothing else.
vladkoval says
Today Iran successfully tested the S-300 Missile System, recently given by Russia
Christianblood says
Vladkoval
Doesn’t Iran, as any other country has the right to strengthen its defenses to protect its own country from external aggressors?
vladkoval says
the Russian troll pronounces the words “any other country has the right”. What an irony!
gravenimage says
The idea that you are defending the horror of Islam just because Putin is playing footsie with the appalling Islamic Republic of Iran is, as always, very disturbing.
Peggy says
Given by Russia? I seriously doubt that Russia give away weapons.
Maybe sold by Russia but then how many weapons does Iran posses from the west too?
They all sell their weapons to anyone willing to buy. It’s not exclusive to Russia, US or UK.
So what’s your point then?
gravenimage says
No one should be selling weapons to Iran–or to any other dangerous Islamic crap hole, Peggy.
davej says
When the Russians are shown to be influencing and financing our Universities, infiltrating our Government, building Russian “community centers” and conducting terror attacks on our streets I’ll consider them an equivalent threat. Until then they will remain a diversionary boogie man being used to distract us from the real existential threat represented by Islam.
The constant stream of articles in the HuffPost that attempt to minimize excuse or explain away Muslim violence and influence is clearly deceptive.
vladkoval says
Good for you! That’s exactly what Putin wants you to think when facilitating for jihadis in Russia to go and join the bearded men chopping heads on video and screaming “Allllahu Akbar”.
BTW, have you heard the story of two Chechen girls who were arrested by… FSB after they took money from the ISIS recruiter, agreeing to go to Syria and join ISIS, but they deceived him?
Christianblood says
Vladkoval
Russia knows how to deal with muslim jihadists and have been dealing with them long before America existed as a nation. The real threat to Russia now is not islam or islamic jihadists but the godless, materialistic, postmodernist, morally corrupt, radical secular religion known as ” neo liberalism democracy”. That is the real threat for Russia and indeed for the whole world.
gravenimage says
Christianblood wrote:
Russia knows how to deal with muslim jihadists and have been dealing with them long before America existed as a nation. The real threat to Russia now is not islam or islamic jihadists but the godless, materialistic, postmodernist, morally corrupt, radical secular religion known as ” neo liberalism democracy”. That is the real threat for Russia and indeed for the whole world.
………………………..
Wait–you have no problem with Muslims laying siege to a school, and bombing the Moscow Theater, and the Moscow metro, and the Moscow airport, and beheading a little four year-old child, but you consider democracy and freedom to be the “real threat”?
I’ve long suspected that you hate the West far more than you do Islam, Christianblood, but I had no idea of the extent of it.
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“Russia knows how to deal with muslim jihadists and have been dealing with them long before America existed as a nation. The real threat to Russia now is not islam or islamic jihadists but the godless, materialistic, postmodernist, morally corrupt, radical secular religion known as ” neo liberalism democracy”. That is the real threat for Russia and indeed for the whole world.”
Lol! I’ve seen you posting this, almost ad-verbatim, several times. Do you have a document with talking points you copy/past from in order to fill a daily quota or something? Just goes to show what your priority on a site called Jihad Watch is: denigrating the West and praising Russia. Anyway, Russia sure knows how to deal with jihadis. For example, Kadyrov, a jihadi that told his followers to kill as many Russians as possible? He was recorded in Russian history as an “hero of the Russian Federation” and got a bridge named after him. Yeah, that’ll show jihadis they can’t mess with Russia!!! And it’s funny how you demonize secularism here but elsewhere you praise Assad as being a secular leader. Which is it? Is secularism bad or good?
Peggy says
So when can we expect mass immigration from Russia and Russian terror on your streets then?
Angemon says
Would Russian funding of anti-Trump rioters suffice?
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/03/glazov-gang-the-anti-trump-revolution-and-the-jihadist-connection
Oh, and the Russians spend decades doing just that – influencing and financing US academia. That included spreading anti-Israeli, pro-“palestinian” propaganda, hatred of Western culture and uncritical devotion of all other cultural systems. It’s no accident that the more left-leaning an University is, the more pro-islamic they are, with islamic “culture” having replaced Communism in acting as a foil to Western “imperialism”, “colonialism” and capitalism.
gravenimage says
True, Dave–Russia is not the threat that Islam is.
alex9234 says
The only other country that I would consider as dangerous as Islam, or at least almost as dangerous, would be China.
The Turks and Chinese are far more of an ideological enemy of the west than Russia is.
JMB says
Back in the 1970s at the height of the cold war a few lone voices were saying; “Forget communism and the Soviet Union, it will collapse”, the real threat to our civilisation and way of life will be a resurgent Islam. I got this information from missionaries who were suddenly finding that their help such as medical services for women and their very presence as missionaries was suddenly no longer welcome in Arab countries.
bleeps says
These hacking stories are bogus, fake! They are all invented, all you just got to do is check a state officials attribute sheet/job description and what he literaly he did during function exercition.That is how you get corrupt officials! The rest is just sand in the eyes, no hacking. Even a bird can see the sky, so do people see the corruption of the likes Obama and Hillary and many politicians in the world occupying functions but with a strong source in Arab World.
Cretius says
Yes, fears of Islam destroying freedom and democracy in the west are ‘overblown’ until it is a bloody reality. Where is real leadership? On the extreme right per chance?
gravenimage says
Here’s more on the appalling Ishaan Tharoor, from Sheik Yer’Mami:
“WAPO in the Service of Islam, Unleashes Attack Dog Ishaan Tharoor on Pam Geller”
http://sheikyermami.com/2015/08/wapo-in-the-service-of-islam-unleashes-attack-dog-ishaan-tharoor-on-pam-geller/
He laments arrest of notorious Islamic Hate Preacher Anjem Choudary, and attacks Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, and Sean Hannity.