Where did they learn their understanding of Islam? Is their mosque being investigated? Why not?
“2 suburban Chicago men arrested on terrorism charges,” AP, April 12, 2017:
CHICAGO (AP) — Two suburban Chicago men who posed for photos holding a black Islamic State flag at a Lake Michigan beach park were arrested Wednesday on federal terrorism charges, and an undercover agent said one of the men suggested homosexuals should be thrown off the city’s tallest building.
An FBI sting going back several years compiled evidence that Joseph D. Jones and Edward Schimenti conspired to provide and attempt to provide material support to the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, according to a complaint. That included allegedly provided cellphones to someone working with the FBI, believing the phones would be used to detonate explosives in Syria.
The court filing includes photos of the 35-year-old men holding an Islamic State flag at the Illinois Beach State Park in Zion, where they live.
This past February, Schimenti allegedly told one person in on the sting that he was angry about someone from work because he was gay, according to the complaint. If Islamic Law was ever instituted in the United States, Schimenti was quoted as saying, “We are putting you (homosexuals) on top of Sears Tower (now the Willis Tower) and we drop you.”
The complaint also details postings on the suspects’ social media accounts, which included Islamic State beheadings.
It says a photo posted on Schimenti’s Google Plus profile shows a masked man holding a knife and standing alongside an IS flag. A caption reads in capital letters that if you can’t travel abroad to fight, “then slaughter the pagans next to you.” Another posting reads: “Islamic State will control your country, matter of fact, Islam will dominate the world!!”
In 2015, a video was posted on Jones’ Google Plus profile entitled “Some of the Deadly Stabbing Ways: Do not Forget to Poison the Knife,” the complaint says. Another time, a person in on the FBI sting asked Jones if he ever thought about traveling to Syria to live in Islamic State territory. He answered, “Every night and day,” the complaint says….
mortimer says
Misunderstand Islam much? No, they understand the JIHAD DOCTRINE PERFECTLY!
Warfare against disbelievers is Mohammed’s method and the collective duty of all Muslims. The purpose of JIHAD is to impose DRACONIAN, DISCRIMINATORY Sharia law upon ALL non-Muslims WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT.
Joseph D. Jones and Edward Schimenti understand the GOALS of Islam PERFECTLY.
In other words, Joseph D. Jones and Edward Schimenti understand Islamic faith to imply the OVERTHROW OF THE US CONSTITUTION. They understand Islam as being FUNDAMENTALLY SEDITIOUS.
This is a correct understanding of CANONICAL ISLAM.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Mortimer.
Otool says
Stop being racist, bigoted, xenophobic and islamophobic. Stop being such a hater. Be loving and multicultural and tolerant. Take the elevator to the top floor and take a number.
Don Davenport says
Meanwhile “Queers for Palestine” chant “HEY HEY, HO HO, ISRAELI APARTHEID HAS GOT TO GO!!?”
Mo says
@ Don Davenport
“Meanwhile “Queers for Palestine” chant “HEY HEY, HO HO, ISRAELI APARTHEID HAS GOT TO GO!!?”
Send them to that mythical “Palestine”, then!
Idiots. Some people are, quite literally, too stupid to live.
Benedict says
Islam makes, as always, an illustrative contrast to the Christian faith it schemes to replace.
Here is the apostle Paul’s take on gays:
9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, 10nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. –
We may not subscribe to or believe this gospel, but no one can deny – except people in their Left mind – the glaring difference of being “washed”, “sanctified” and “justified” and being thrown out from a high building.
Dave Flang says
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
The test no one can pass.
The Good Test
BC says
Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who submit to or perform homosexual acts, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor verbal abusers, nor swindlers
According to his definitions heaven must be a pretty empty place, however we can remember that no matter how big a b*st*rd you have been if you confess and ask for foregiveness at the last moment
you will be ‘saved’
Benedict says
Do you know your last moment? –
Also, this perverse logic is severely rebuked by the apostle Paul with the words: *Their condemnation is deserved!* :
“But if our unrighteousness highlights the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unjust to inflict His wrath on us? I am speaking in human terms. By no means! In that case, how could God judge the world? However, if my falsehood accentuates God’s truthfulness, to the increase of His glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner? Why not say, as some slanderously claim that we say, “Let us do evil that good may result?” Their condemnation is deserved!
Mickey says
It’s not a surprise that Chicago is one of those cities like Michigan that is an Islamic State. Due to the inaction of these politicians who are in power and have subverted our government to stay in control, this is what these cities get for electing these anti-American pieces of crap. These are the progressive Marxist Socialists that are trying to tear down America and our Constitutional Republic. This is all because of those racists, bigots and liberals who voted that Muslim President in. The media can keep pushing their lies that Barry isn’t a Muslim all they want, but the proof is in the pudding as they say. He has done nothing for the American people. He kept sneaking in Muslims and planting them in certain cities to try and map those cities for the purpose of voting in the future for the liberals.
TL says
Illogical inference. Secular atheists in Germany, Sweden, and elsewhere in Europe conspired to import Muslims into Europe. Those importers remained secular atheists in spite of their pudding. Likewise, Barry and nearly all of his allies can be nonmuslims and remain nonmuslims even though they import Muslims for electoral or reasons.
BC says
As an atheist of long standing (50 years) I resent being collectively included. I assume you must be a Christian. It evades your understanding that atheists are against all religions and secular by definition, so you do not need to repeat yourself.
It is very unlikely that atheists would welcome to arrival of yet more religious types especially ones as fanatical and bigoted as those following the ‘ROP’
BC says
Typo! “the arrival” not “to arrival”
underbed cat says
Yep,….now go check the surrounding areas….along the same route. This ideology has planted itself long ago I believe since back in 2001 or so while driving along thru the area I spotted a board propped up along Sheridan road, white painted letters that said
“al Queda”. And many surrounding communities with this type of ideology are doing outreach to communities…presenting a contrived delusion that terrorism has nothing to do with ..the doctrine, inviting the uninformed. Interesting how they operate in plain view protected by our law due to an easily identified erroneous definition.
Interesting how much is all around this very large, drinking water source. This concerns me. Add to that diversity hiring so now what who do you call.
Agha Ali Arkhan says
Underbed cat: … and around very large food sources.
tedh754 says
Could be worse. They could be saying that men should only use men’s rooms, regardless of their “inner woman.”
gravenimage says
Chicago: Two Muslims held ISIS flag at park, spoke of throwing gays off Sears Tower
……………………
*Yeesh*. Muslims look at the Sears Tower, and don’t think, “what a magnificent feat of engineering!”. They think, “wouldn’t it be great to throw gay people off the roof”?
God, I hate Islam.
By the way, my husband is from Chicago. Few Muslims there when he was born there.
Jeanette says
Few Muslims anywhere in America when many of us were born!
BC says
As we know all Muslims are not terrorists, however it is pretty obvious that we can be sure almost all terrorists and would be terrorists are Muslim.
ADDgolfer says
I understand what you mean, the so called moderates?
Mind if I make a sports team comparison? Much of a region’s population not really into professional sports, not like they watch every game. Quite a few very into sports and then the “rabid” fans.
Have that city’s team go thru their season winning, and winning some big ones. What happens to the city’s population and leaders? They all begin to wear team paraphernalia, sporting their colors, adorning their businesses. The most uninterested unable to not feel the pride of the city, even if they don’t know the difference of a touchdown and a goal.
That is the Islamic cult **err** faith. The moderates would be unable not to become rabid fans and make demands of change.
utis says
This country really needs to dust off its treason laws. It’s not surprising that Chicago(Gang)land is crawling with these vermin. It’s a minor relief that we never got the Gitmo prisoners in our area. I knew even back when it was being considered, that Chicago would be infested with jihadis trying to spring their “heroic” brethren, blowing up places and killing random Chicagoans.
FYI says
Religious Nazis.
underbed cat says
In fantasy, mosques have imams that do not recognize terrorism and the migration as part of a grand jihad…at least it is omitted during outreach to the local church groups, politicians, and communities.That also occurs in small towns, recently, kind of a meet and greet..and the very polite, gracious host explains misconceptions due to radicalized elements they cannot control because not every member understands there is no compulsion in religion nor a call to spread the peaceful religion by jihad and seems to be in the book they read,..about the guys with the isis flag they have no knowledge or is it maybe the dude with the flag did seem a little different and of course was booted out.
Truly because they don’t, cause,…. they can’t. Total silence.
Rev Donald Spitz says
Homosexuality should be criminalized. Homosexuality is a crime against God and against the Holy Bible.
Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: :26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: :27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
solange silverman says
Well, good luck to them, luckily, there is no outdoor access from the Willis Tower, formerly Sears Tower, so their posturing is just that, posturing. The disgusting part is that, now, we are seeing more and more of this here in the states with no immigration ban in sight, a ban we desperately need. Islam gives psychopaths the excuses they need to do these horrible things. Islam, making entire cultures mentally ill for centuries. We need that ban and FAST. We need our current laws ENFORCED.
DiogeneUSA says
If they truly wish to become Martyrs, let them invade the South-West side of Chicago.
They will probably get their wish.
John A. Marre says
Right in the USA, in a liberal stronghold, Chicago.
Karina says
Yet liberals and Democrat voters continue to defend Islam…
You can’t have it both ways—you can’t claim to support gay rights (to any extent ) yet defend Islam.
I dislike the far-left’s co-opting of the gay rights movement and making them seem like wierdoes, but I equally dislike Islam’s extreme intolerance of gay people.