When Islamic supremacists get a whiff of weakness, they zero in with calculated determination. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan stated:
“They said a century ago that we were the ‘sick man.’ Now they are the ‘sick man.’ Europe is collapsing.”
Erdogan, a dangerous combination of ruthless and off-the-hinges, recently declared a clash between “the cross and the crescent” over an EU headscarf ban in the workplace, while his foreign minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu declared that “holy wars” will soon begin in Europe. Erdogan also stated:
“You have seen what happened in Europe. Why did they go crazy? Why did they go berserk? They saw what this system will bring to Turkey. Turkey is leaping, growing. This makes them go crazy.”
Europe went “berserk” and “crazy” when it flung open its doors to Muslim immigration, leading to a massive crime surge and a devastating blow to the economy, along with a heightened jihadist threat.
“Erdogan promises ‘sick Europe’ will pay for ‘humiliating & oppressing’ Turks”, RT, April 11, 2017:
In a widening diplomatic rift between Turkey and the EU, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has made a new provocative statement saying that the “collapsing” Europe “will pay” for “humiliating” and “oppressing” Turks living on the continent.
“They said a century ago that we were the ‘sick man.’ Now they are the ‘sick man.’ Europe is collapsing,” the Turkish leader said, using an insult popular among European politicians in the 19th century when they talked about the collapsing Ottoman Empire.
Speaking at a rally in Turkey’s Izmir on Sunday, the president said that Europe’s economy was getting worse, its population was getting older, and the “racism disease has resurged like a virus,” Turkish Anadolu news agency reported. In Europe, which suffered two world wars in the past, millions of people are being attacked and discriminated against, he told the rally.
Erdogan claimed that Turks living in Europe were being “very oppressed” and “very humiliated,” and vowed to make Europe “accountable” for that.
“Europe will pay for what they have done. God willing, the question of the European Union will again be on the table after April 16,” he said, referring to the constitutional referendum in Turkey, which might sharply increase his ruling powers.
“You have seen what happened in Europe. Why did they go crazy? Why did they go berserk? They saw what this system will bring to Turkey. Turkey is leaping, growing. This makes them go crazy,” Erdogan explained his view on the tensions with the EU.
The Turkish leader reiterated his plans to hold a separate referendum on whether Ankara should carry on with a process to join the European Union, saying he now expects “a serious explosion in the rate of votes” to quit the EU accession bid. “I do not worry about it,” he said.
Turkey, which has been negotiating an entrance into the 28-member European bloc for decades, has consistently faced criticism from the EU for its record on human rights, democracy and freedom of the press.
Talks between Ankara and Brussels are also directly linked to a controversial €6 billion refugee deal, which Turkey repeatedly threaten to suspend. Brussels for its part says that Turkey failed to honor some of the 72 conditions set by the EU for lifting the visa requirements…..

Michael Copeland says
TRANSLATION
For Turkey to join the EU…….. For Erdogan to be Caliph of Islamic Europe.
Frank says
As far as I am concerned, Erdogan can have all his Turkeys back. Who would miss ‘hem?
Oliver says
Frank. To answer y your question
Who would want them.
Merkel. May. Hollande. Obama. Although Obama out of power and not in Europe. Assorted left wing creatins.
The Prime Minister of Austria. A nd the refugee welcomi g committee’s
mortimer says
Turkey should have been dismantled in 1920 and divided among several states, rather than allowing it to return to grandiosity with pompous asses like Erdogan.
Turkish history is a series of genocides. The Kurds are next. Then the Europeans after that.
NO ONE SHOULD UNDERESTIMATE ERDOGAN’S SABRE RATTLING.
Alien Republican says
Somebody – 7000 years of history in Turkey is not the same as the history of Turks.
AleX says
Erdo-gun is the new caliph in town [barking about] as turkey heads quickly toward own destruction [syria style].
Secularists vs Islamists, Kurds seceding, loyalists vs rebel army factions, jihadis vs peace-keepers.
Keep the popcorn at the ready!
gravenimage says
Somebody wrote:
Turks has a 7000 years of history and not all of the Turks are muslims.
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This is true, Somebody–but they do make up *96.5%* of the population.
If you don’t consider Islam a problem, why are you here? And your ranting about Zionists is not a good sign…
Horseman says
I lived in Turkey for a total of 8 years on 4 different occasions. 98% of Turks are Muslim. There has always been a distinct under current of Islamic fundamentalism in Turkey. Erdogan just brings it to the fore. He will easily get what he wants in the next election.
Pal says
Mortimer:
I find your point Very correct. In fact, Turkey was (nearly) dismantled then. Normal Armenian, Greek, Kurdish states were planed and put on the map by the Treaty of Sèvres, 1920. However, allies such as Britain and France were already exhausted so as to continue their fight against the new movement lead by K. Ataturk.
Turkey was, is and will be an enemy to the Western civilisation. That point was only softened by Ataturk and Kemalism for 8 decades. Today’s Turkey resurrects from the past and goes back to its original identity largely shaped by Islam, since 10th century, but not by 6,000 years of pre-Islamic Turkic history already forgotten (and there are studies on that point, too).
Somebody:
The way GravenImage and Horseman put it I find it Very correct, too. There is a say, I have heard, that everything in Turkey is “Turkish” or it changes into “Turkish” or is forcefully made to become “Turkish”, meaning also “Muslim”, in all of those cases. The mere fact that you speak of common Turk ethnicity of 300 m people means that you are a Muslim, or a man shaped by a Muslim culture that regards nations as trans-national ummah. Atatturk himself was a Muslim, no matter he spoke so harshly against Islam and hanged many mullahs. His critical speeches seem designated only for external consumption – for European and American public. Also, you speak of Russia as Turkish cordial friend which is also a Muslim-prism-way, i.e. the way of the anti-Westernism available in Islam’s view, that the Christian West is the enemy of the Turks while some other empires, preferably Asian ones, could be their friends, on the common anti-Western base. Same attitude Turks have on the Kurds, since they are “national” enemies and friends of the West. “Zionists”, “US agents” – it is also nothing else than the Islamic mentality of who is “the good” and who “the bad” on earth: Cf. THE Holy BLOODY QURAN.
Pal says
“The answer to the denial by the Turks of the (Armenian) genocide/s lies in the duality between (their’s and others’) existence and non-existence”. – Islamic culture, again – “The Turkish existence – that of Turkey and many of its inhabitants – requires the absence of another entity: THE CHRISTIANS (emph. mine). To accept “1915” (genocides) means that Christians lived in the Turkish land, which amounts to proclaiming Turkish own non-existence, because TURKISH EXISTENCE IS BASED ON THEIR ABSENCE, OR DISAPPEARANCE”.
The two ancient, most fertile civilisational areas were firstly the Middle East and secondly Asia Minor. Former was smashed by Arab’s Islam, second smashed by Turk’s Islam. Both two Islams and cultures in principle don’t admit that they comprise those old civilisation layers, or only admit it for “external usage”, once again, but not for popular one.
At the time, main goal of Islam were the strongest powers, most prosperous and developed ones: Persia and Eastern Rome.
Today, goal of Islam seems once again the main civilisational area of the World, its largest, strongest, most prosperous and developed part, namely Western Europe and America.
gravenimage says
Pal, you are right about Muslims’ denial of their pre-Islamic heritage.
Muslims despise “Jahillya”–signs of “pre-Islamic ‘ignorance'”–and destroy it whenever possible. That is why the Taliban blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas. There are, grimly, thousands of other examples.
Pal says
Islam is By Inception a Racism, towards other, non-islamic civilisations, peoples, countries (cf, the holy Bloody Quran, hadiths), so islamic culture it inbuilds in its societies is in No way deprived of racism: Cf the jihad of profit Mohamet. Jihad is Racism aimed at Transforming other cultures into Islam at the end of the day. By jihad, by islam, Christian Middle East, Christian Asia Minor, Zoroastrian Persia, Buddhist half/India were made Muslim.
It is Not possible for Turks Not to be racists or not to display racism while perpetrating ARMENIAN, GREEK, ASSYRIAN genocides. All the more, the so called Secular Turks first of all carried them, and all the more within just several years/decades.
When a Turk speaks of 300 m Turkish union, he/she Definitely implicates 300 m Muslim Turks – not Christian or Buddhist Turks. If 200 m out of them were Christians and 100 m Muslim Turks, then the say would go “100 m Turkish union”.
When Pan-turkism is brought into mind of a Turk, it is Always an Islamic Pan-turkism, no matter if the term does not include that specification. The father of Pan-turkism, Ismail Gasprinsky, in 1880s composed the idea of that comprehensive Turkish union having in mind Explicitly all Turkic peoples & tribes as Muslim ones. He Did Explicitly rejected non-Muslim Turkics as not equal so as to become members of such a union – Gaguzes, Chuvashes, etc. “They are not Turks” – Ismail used to say.
Quran 3:28: “Muslims, don’t take disbelievers as your friends and allies – your take only believers”.
(Past and present Racism of Turkey: ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Turkey)
Brian Hoff says
It seem you donot know your history. The allies try to break up Turkey after world one.The Turkish people and military tefuse to lay around they arm the manufact more arms and ammo and drove out each foteign armies with help from the red in russia. Europe is falling apart.
gravenimage says
The witless “Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–wrote:
It seem you donot (sic) know your history. The allies try (sic) to break up Turkey after world one (sic).
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Of course, the Ottoman Empire *was* broken up after WWI–not so much from the outside as by non-Turkish Muslims seeing their chance to break away.
Brave Infidels such as the Greeks, Serbs, and Croats also were able to gain their independence–mostly in the 19th century.
Doesn’t “DefenderofIslam” realize that North Africa, Greece, the Balkans, Syria, and Iraq were once part of the Ottoman Empire? Probably not…
Oliver says
I admit. Just read part. But a question. If a big if. The Turks in Europe are being oppressed and humiliated. Why don’t they leave and go back to Turkey
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Like the supposed suffering from racism in the US illegal Mexican immigrants. Leave.
No slavery or forced indenture.
mortimer says
Oliver rightly asks about HUMILIATION which is part of the ISLAMIC SHAME-HONOR culture.
Shaming Muslims requires RETALIATION and warfare. Erdogan knows this.
-K.9:11-12 But if they violate their oaths after their covenant, and taunt you for your Faith, – fight ye the chiefs of Unfaith: for their oaths are nothing to them: that thus they may be restrained.
-“The reprisal against those who wage war on Allah and His Messenger, and go about the earth corrupting it, is that they should be killed or crucified, or have their alternate hands and feet cut off, or be banished from the land.” (K.5:33) Waging war against Allah is rejecting Him.”–Tafsir of Imam al-Bukhari
-Imam AbdulLatif ibn AbdurRahman rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed and act upon it, and yet not be hostile against the mushrikeen. So anyone who isn’t hostile against the mushrikeen, then it can’t be said that he acts upon Tawheed, nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
Pal says
Precisely said.
A call to revenge for their ever “humiliation” state of mind.
gravenimage says
All true, Mortimer.
Cameron says
Send all islamist criminals who are even a potential threat to society to an overseas penal colony beyond Europe. Send them to Syria to rebuild.
Jihadis should be a problem that the Islamic world alone has to deal with. Keep the civilized world out of it.
Stan says
Ideally yes. Europe has made this impossible however. They are not going to return the hoards of Muslims to their home countries. Instead suffer and pretend the problem has nothing to do with Islam.
Nigel GFF says
To Wretched Erdogan, get out of Cyprus.
mousey says
i almost never feel a hatred toward another person, but this man…
gravenimage says
Yes–free Cyprus!
Matthieu Baudin says
“…In a widening diplomatic rift between Turkey and the EU, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan has made a new provocative statement saying that the “collapsing” Europe “will pay” for “humiliating” and “oppressing” Turks living on the continent…”
A convenient blend of Islamic Supremacist and New Left Victimhood that should excite all the low brow Anarchists, aged Marxists and Contemporary Left malcontents who are together undermining the social institutions of Western Europe. Hopefully the new Vlad will resist throwing in his lot with the marginally democratic Erdogan and the ‘smash and grab’ tactics he has employed.
Phil Copson says
This is good news – any comments from foreign leaders that make it harder for Western leaders to deny that the EU and Third World migration are a disaster, and that Turkey is totally unsuitable to join the EU, gratefully received. Keep it up, Abdul.
Crusades Were Right! says
“Let us in, or there will be hell to pay!”
Who can resist an offer like that?
; ¬)
Phil Copson says
As offers go, it really is pretty irresistible; “If you don’t let us flood Europe with muslims – we’ll flood Europe with muslims!” For sheer persuasive power, it’s right up there with “Let us in or we’ll kill you!” – how could any self-respecting Marxist EU leader say no ?
gravenimage says
Spot on.
John A. Marre says
Anyone who thinks Turkey is our friend is an idiot.
Eur says
Don’t forget Morocco. Morocco … our country friend. Thousands of jihadists who have gone to Syria, millions living off aid in France, Belgium, Spain … Morocco and the Moroccans are a huge problem
Irene Brekelmans says
Do the Turks feel victimised again? You should with a leader like that. You threaten us there is hell to pay?
Erdogan, you are busy with your own downfall and take your followers with you.
Can’t you think for yourselves, you still have a lot of people sitting behind bars in Turkey, who tried to think for themselves , good or bad, but at least they thought for themselves.
What can you not un derstand about life? Tell me and I will explain it to you.
jewdog says
“Hsssss, I keel you! I keel you! Hssss..”
-Erdy the Dead Terrorist
gravenimage says
Yes, Jewdog–here’s the hilarious Achmed the Dead Terrorist:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssVaMwTYyPc
There are much longer clips of the act on-line, as well.
Henner720 says
Turks and islam are not affraid to die, is what he mean with europe is collapsing. So we are affraid to die for europe.. Turks have nothing to live for. Life is shithole in islam. Only the kill part of islam is fun.i never liked turks attitudes.sort of facist.he talks to the anatolian. The goart farmers and poor, the decent turks must be just dry in there mouths.death is comming. Erdogan is coming.islam is coming.erdogan the man that lead turkey back to black.
Johan Elzinga says
There are four reasons Erdogan can blackmail Europe.
1. Germany’s economy is 70 percent dependent on Russian gas, 30 percent transported through pipelines in Turkey.
2. The refugees – about 1 million – Erdogan can dump on Europe, and Europe not being strong enough to send them back.
3. The millions of Turks that now live in Europe are able to destabilize Europe
4. The US and Europe depend on Turkey to fight off Islamic State, although Turkey has been delivering weapons to IS in the recent past
Ban Islam says
Ban Islam in Europe.
Guest says
Who was the genius that said Turkey is a moderate country.
Stan Lee says
Erdogan has been treated like royalty by Chancellor Merkel of Germany. Such recognition of Erdogan has puffed him up like the nasty dictator he is.
Erdogan has had his way, has been enabled by Merkel, which reflects the fact to Erdogan that since Germany has been economically a potent EU force, Erdogan enjoys the status invested in him by German appeasement because the EU would rather give up all of its union to Islam, rather than to put Erdogan in his place and risk a vile action by him via Muslims in the EU whom he can control.
Vlad says
Well, I expect Frau Merkel to say -” Aferin oğlum diyordu effendi ” – she has a soft spot for him.
The EU leaders are not going to take this unconcealed threat into consideration, as always.
DFD says
Pathetic, wretched **Kanacke**
Kanacke = German for an uncivilized, primitive and backward savage, who is beyond any redemption. And beyond any effort of redemption, not only worthless, but an offense to civilized people.
In short: It’s German for Erdogan!
common sense says
Please watch thus if uou have not seen it and then realize hoe amazing our military is and our innovation.
Trump is rebuilding our military. The Cram is already a naval weapon slated for distribution through the Army in 2019.
https://youtu.be/w4PXou0aGiE
We are done with ‘strategic patience’ (doing nothing) and are going to hold violent offenders accountable. Have you all been listening and watching?
For years and years “wake up , wake up!” Well we got it done, we are awake. We all know the list of the filthy including those that have unfortunately served in our own US govt. Obamadeology is dissipating, let it die.
From cartel street thugs to NK we are not bluffing. It’s really happening and the world will be better for our presence in it.
Erdogan really is losing it here.
Omi-san says
Why the hell is Turkey still in OTAN after uttering some many threats toward its allies?
Eric Jones says
This upcoming election in Turkey on April 16 will be very important. This will determine if Erdogan gets the dictatorial powers he wants. If he gets them there is a possiblity of ground war in Europe. He will order the Turks in Europe to do Jihad. He will bring Turkish troops into Europe to protect muslims in Europe from oppression. Erdogan’s rant described in this article is a justification for bringing Turkish troops into Europe.
Remember Turkey is a NATO member. Is Trump being made aware of this?
Eric
mortimer says
Do not underestimate Trump’s knowledge or intuition. He’s plain-talking, but he’s one of sharpest knives in the drawer.
mortimer says
Don’t play poker with Trump, Erdogan, unless you love pain.
mortimer says
What a vicious, evil man. Why have the Turks followed this monster? He will lead Turkey to disaster.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, they have followed him because most Turks are Muslim, and they want a re-Islamized state.
Pal says
GravenImage, exactly.
The original and its replicas.
Or vice-versa.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Pal.
Goddess says
Stick this cocksucker in a meat grinder. Yes, I AM using restraint. This was the nicest I could say it.
Marcello Luciano says
Erdogan sounds like a butt hurt !!!! They did not accept Turks as European and he is angry now !!!! TOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAD !!!!!
gravenimage says
Erdogan: “Europe is collapsing…Europe will pay for what they have done” in humiliating and oppressing Turks
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“Humiliation and oppression” in this case means Europe did not allow them to take over completely.
Jake Holan says
Erdogan you are typical if all the theocratic despots of the Middle East. Your words and actions humiliate the large majority of highly educated sophistecated secular Turkish people. I have no doubt that your yhreats will rebound upon you & bring you our good tidings. Your fate is locked to the picture of all despotic leaders
gravenimage says
Alas, Jake, Turkey’s secular population is miniscule. Several secular Turks post here, but they just make up a tiny minority there.
davej says
Look at his face, he is berserk.
Listen to his words – diagnosis confirmed.
LAWRENCE WINANS says
Erdogan faked a coup to pre-empt a Kemalist – Military response. Now he is solidifying his power and reinforcing ties with the Islamists.
I think the longrange plan should not be to bring Turkey into Europe but to remove that portion of Europe from Turkish control. Eastern Thrace should be repopulated with Greeks and Bulgarians and either made autonomous to redistributed to Bulgaria and Greece.
It took the Spanish 700 years to complete the Reconquista. The Turks didn’t take Constantinople until the 1450s, less than 600 years ago.
As the Jewish people would toast their future with “Next year in Jerusalem” ! So too we should toast, “Next year in Constantinople”. I would dearly love to take communion in the newly reconsecrated Hagia Sophia.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, there are almost no non-Muslims left in Turkey now. They have all fled, been pressured to convert to Islam, or murdered outright over the centuries.
Dominic Jermano says
Mr. Erdogon,
Needs to put his head under some cold water to cool off. He needs to understand that there is more going on in Europe than he thinks. The EU Zone grew because of the banking fraud caused by 911 in the United States. And that those who did 911 were from the US Government not Saudi Islamic Terrorists. The people who did it were in charge of the Government and they still control things horribly. If he wants to shift his attention to the Truth of 911 and help 911 Truthers take back America from these hijackers, he would be more than welcomed. He needs to know the EU Scam is because of 911, and until we take back America, it will continue to go onward down the road to hell. Trump is obviously one of the Insiders orchestrating 911.
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/murder-president-dominic-jermano?published=t
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/trump-murders-innocent-syrians-dominic-jermano
gravenimage says
Vile Muslim apologist Dominic Jermano wrote:
…those who did 911 were from the US Government not Saudi Islamic Terrorists.
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What a load of crap. Are all 20,565 Jihad terror attacks since 9/11 “from the US Government” as well?
The Spanish Train bombing? The London Tube bombing? The Boston Marathon bombing? The Ft. Hood massacre? The attacks on Mumbai? The kidnapping of girls in NIgeria? The attacks on Paris? The attacks on Brussels? The attack in Orlando? The Nice truck attack? The Pulse Nightclub attack?
Every attack in Israel? Every bombing of every market in Dar-al-Islam?
All framed by Americans who want to make innocent Muslims look bad? (Never mind Muslims proudly claiming responsibility for all of these atrocities, and so often celebrating when the happen).
Do “Truthers” like this fool realize how retarded they sound?
Phil Copson says
Should that be “30,565” ?
gravenimage says
Yes, thank you, Phil. A regrettable typo I did not catch.
Jack Holan says
Somebody says is talking about me and my people. It’s good to see that there are still a few lunatics on the outside of the institute to keep life interesting. His reference to the dollar bill is the the many Masonic Symbols in it are backtracked to Jews since allegedly we started the Masons or control it. I’m never sure about these Conspiracies. So, there, in essence Somebody is saying that we, Jews had tremendous influence over the Founding Fathers. Then he alludes to us controlling all industries (I wish they’d help and give me a share) and profit off the backs of non-Jews and War. So, he’s mix 2- blood libels The Protocols of the Elders written by Berria Head of the Russian Secret Police and Germany’s excuse for losing WWI and in Mein Kampf. According to the US State Dept the interlacing of Zionism and Jews is a form Anti Semitism.
We, Jews of World have paid with our lives because of Conspirator Theorist like “Somebody” who is really Nobody hiding without a name. There are about 15 million Jews in the World and this ignorant fool believes we control most of the wealth, most Industries, the Politicians in most countries and have a secret Army everywhere. This is powerful stuff “Somebody”. Who can you trust. Have you ever heard the word paranoia? You don’t focus on what Jews have contributed in Medicine, Science, the Arts like Music literature even with our small numbers.
“Somebody” get some serious psychiatric help. I’m not joking. I’m serious
gravenimage says
Yes, it’s ridiculous, Jack.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
erdogan,why even talking about eu?pop already said eu is for christian only.why aspiring to join group of human worshipers after light of islam has been with turks for centuries?nothing will stop turkey from becoming the most ecomically developed nation.all indices for economic growth are now available in turkey.
gravenimage says
Vile Muslim apologist ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
erdogan (sic),why even (sic) talking about eu (sic)?pop (sic) already said eu (sic) is for christian (sic) only.
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What muhammed means is that civilized Europeans do not take kindly to barbaric Muslims murdering them and trying to impose Shari’ah law. As he sees it, this means that the EU is “for christian only”.
More:
why (sic) aspiring (sic) to join group of human worshipers after light of islam (sic) has been with turks (sic) for centuries?
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It seems muhammed does not understand his own creed. Muslims are invading Europe so they can turn it into another Islamic sh*t hole, not so they can become civilized people.
And yes–the “light of Islam” led its savage followers to slaughter almost their entire Christian population–up to two million people–a century ago. muhammed must be so proud.
More:
nothing (sic) will stop turkey (sic) from becoming the most ecomically (sic) developed nation.all (sic) indices for economic growth are now available in turkey (sic).
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Well, that’s just grimly hilarious. The only reason Turkey has done as comparatively well as it has done is because Kemalism suppressed Islam for decades. But Erdogan has been dismantling these safeguards over the past ten years, and Turkey is even more hopeless.
Islam despises innovation and productive labor. How does muhammed suppose any part of Dar-al-Islam can become “the most ecomically (sic) developed nation”?
Pious Muslims believe that they should live off the labor of the “filthy Infidels”. That is, indeed, what Erdogan is ranting about here.
Henner720 says
When you live by koran, it conflicts with economic growth, as you submit your self to anothers will, and restrictions are hightent to religion. and human willpower and unrestrictet thinking patterns is the petrol that drives forward a society. The great minds that can not be subdued to believe because they simply can not, will recejct living in submission, restricting there potentials.the best munds will not easy be manipulated by islam
PG says
Well , when Europe goes it will take the world financial system with it , and create a massive recession that even Turkey and the US will not survive