We see it again and again with feminists: defending Islam trumps their concern for the rights of women, just as we see with gay rights activists such as Theresa Sparks and Chris Stedman that defending Islam trumps their concern for the persecution of gays in Muslim countries. What is behind this odd calculus is a mystery, but there is no doubt that in the Leftist hierarchy of pet causes, the defense of Islam today overrides everything else.
Greer is, of course, flatly wrong about female genital mutilation, which is indeed sanctioned in Islam (as is child marriage). “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — ‘Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64
Why is it obligatory? Because Muhammad is held to have said so: “Abu al- Malih ibn Usama’s father relates that the Prophet said: ‘Circumcision is a law for men and a preservation of honour for women.’” — Ahmad Ibn Hanbal 5:75
“Narrated Umm Atiyyah al-Ansariyyah: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to her: ‘Do not cut severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband.’” — Abu Dawud 41:5251
“Do not cut severely,” but not “Do not cut.”
That’s why it is so common around the world. A Muslim cleric in Russia said that “all women should be circumcised.” A Muslim cleric in India likewise urged that it be done. A Muslim cleric in Australia said that Islamic law permitted the practice. A leading U.S. Muslim jurist from the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA) said it was an “honor” in Islam. A marabout — a Muslim holy man — was arrested in France for having it done on his daughters. In the UK, there were 5,500 cases of FGM in 2016 alone. It is commonly claimed to be an East African problem, but 93% of Muslim women in Malaysia have suffered this procedure, and it is common in Indonesia. In one province in Iran, 60% of the women have suffered FGM.
“Citizenships, Skilled Workers and Mushrooms,” ABC.net.au, April 24, 2017 (thanks to Sidney):
…TONY JONES
Well, I mean, one thing we do know, there appears to be questions about child marriage, genital mutilation and striking your spouse. Are they likely to feed fears about Islam, or answer fears about Islam?TONY BURKE
Well, certainly domestic violence is a challenge across the whole of our country. Across the whole of our country. And any attempt to narrow down domestic violence as anything other than a national crisis, I think is a misrepresentation of what we’re dealing with.TONY JONES
But are you suggesting that might be the case here?TONY BURKE
Well, no, no. You just put that to me and I’m saying that I don’t accept a reference to domestic violence should ever be seen…TONY JONES
But the three things together – genital mutilation, domestic violence, striking your spouse. And considering the background of those women from Hizb-ut Tahrir who put out the video saying that it’s OK for their husbands to strike them, do you think these things are related?TONY BURKE
Whether they’re related in terms of motivation is an issue for the government to say. They have claimed that they’re not related in terms of motivation. Issues that you go through are not issues that characterise Islam.DERRYN HINCH
This is a…TONY JONES
I’ll come back to you, I promise.DERRYN HINCH
This is a deliberately loaded gun and I support the government on it. Because if you say yes or no on your application about domestic violence or child marriage, which is child rape, and then you…and genital mutilation, if down the track you are found to have been involved in any of that, the government can go back and say, “You lied on your application, therefore it’s a fraud and we can deport you.” And I think that’s a wise thing to have. It’s an insurance policy for the government, I applaud them for it.TONY JONES
So, just going back to the question I asked Tony Burke, do you think that fear of Islam has anything to do…?DERRYN HINCH
Yes, I do. I think the government is fudging this. I think that’s what it’s there for, but I accept it and I applaud it.TONY JONES
Germaine Greer, do you accept that?GERMAINE GREER
No, I don’t, really, because it’s not Islam. And it’s the sort of caricature of Islam that we keep promulgating. But it… All of this is weird. I mean, one of the commonest operations in the United States is reduction of the labia minora. And it costs you $8,000 or something, and it’s carried out massively. Huge, thousands, hundreds of thousands of cases a year.TONY JONES
But do you class that as genital mutilation?GERMAINE GREER
Well, I class circumcision as genital mutilation. Sorry, guys. If you’re going to really deal with this question of genital mutilation, start paying attention. Find out what happens to human genitalia. It’s not pretty and you mightn’t like it, but you’re going to be in a pretty silly situation if you start, you know, doing the – what did we used to call it? – the short-arm test, at the passport control. “Let me see if you’ve been mutilated.” And why does that particular mutilation have this kudos? Why is it such an important thing? Why does God like it? I don’t think God likes it at all. I think God should take issue….GERMAINE GREER
The thing you’re assuming is that in child marriage, there will be sexual intercourse. Now, if you actually look at the background to the way in which families marry, say, in village India, it’s not expected that the little girl will be subject to sexual intercourse. That will be controlled by her mother-in-law, probably, and access to the child will only be allowed when she’s considered to be old enough to be able to deal with it.DERRYN HINCH
Like 14.GERMAINE GREER
And this… Well, that used to be the British age…
denis says
Another kiss ass leftist idiot propping up child marriages and the Religion of Hate and Despair.
gravenimage says
Germaine Greer justifies child marriage, says female genital mutilation is “not Islam”
We see it again and again with feminists: defending Islam trumps their concern for the rights of women, just as we see with gay rights activists such as Theresa Sparks and Chris Stedman that defending Islam trumps their concern for the persecution of gays in Muslim countries…
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Grotesquely inexcusable.
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TONY JONES
But the three things together – genital mutilation, domestic violence, striking your spouse. And considering the background of those women from Hizb-ut Tahrir who put out the video saying that it’s OK for their husbands to strike them, do you think these things are related?
TONY BURKE
Whether they’re related in terms of motivation is an issue for the government to say. They have claimed that they’re not related in terms of motivation. Issues that you go through are not issues that characterise Islam.
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Good for Tony Jones, who appears to have a least a clue about the danger of Islam–along with Derryn Hinch.
Tony Burke–whoever he is–believes that only the *government* is capable of determining motivation. Why is he speaking in public if he doesn’t believe people can be allowed to think for themselves?
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TONY JONES
Germaine Greer, do you accept that?
GERMAINE GREER
No, I don’t, really, because it’s not Islam. And it’s the sort of caricature of Islam that we keep promulgating. But it… All of this is weird. I mean, one of the commonest operations in the United States is reduction of the labia minora. And it costs you $8,000 or something, and it’s carried out massively. Huge, thousands, hundreds of thousands of cases a year.
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This is *insane*. Firstly, no Western labiaplasty *cuts out a woman’s clitoris*.
Secondly, this operation is *elective* in the West–no one is held down screaming and forced to have it. Is Germaine Greer *really* incapable of grasping this elemental difference?
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GERMAINE GREER
The thing you’re assuming is that in child marriage, there will be sexual intercourse. Now, if you actually look at the background to the way in which families marry, say, in village India, it’s not expected that the little girl will be subject to sexual intercourse. That will be controlled by her mother-in-law, probably, and access to the child will only be allowed when she’s considered to be old enough to be able to deal with it.
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How horrific is this, and on how many different levels?
For one thing, the idea that every old man who “marries” a little girl has a mother living with him ready to stop him for raping the girl is absurd.
Then, many women have virtually no power in Muslim households, and would be beaten or worse if they tried to stop their pedophile sons from raping little girls.
And then, we have seen plenty of cases where the rapists mother is *in on it*, helping her sons gain access to little girls or sex slaves. Many survivors of child marriage, in fact, have told stories of being beaten and used as household slaves by their mothers-in-law.
And then, look at the idea that they may be protected until they are “old enough to be able to deal with it”–is that what any civilized person here considers to be a marriage–being raped at 14 by someone they were sold to as an even younger child?
Note that Greer has *no* concept of choice or consent here–let alone love.
This is not a “male chauvinist pig” saying this, but someone who is *supposed to be a feminist*.
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DERRYN HINCH
Like 14.
GERMAINE GREER
And this… Well, that used to be the British age…
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And this last is the very thing that reformers in the West *fought against*.
And even this–where you have to go back quite a way in Western history–was not as a rule nearly as bad. While a 14-year-old is certainly not mature enough to choose a husband, she is apt to have a better sense of what she wants and who she loves than is a pre-pubescent child in a forced marriage, who has no choice at all.
Is this what “feminists” in the West are reduced to defend? Nothing less than an evil abandonment of girls to the very worst savagery.