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Germany may grant asylum to Muslims who claim to be former Taliban jihadis over torture fears

Apr 30, 2017 9:21 am By Robert Spencer

How wonderfully humanitarian. What could possibly go wrong?

“Germany may grant asylum to former Taliban fighters over torture fears: report,” by Saim Saeed, Politico, April 27, 2017:

An increasing number of Afghans seeking asylum in Germany are claiming to having been members of the Taliban, potentially to increase their chances of asylum, Die Welt reported Thursday.

According to Die Welt, asylum seekers may be identifying themselves as former Taliban fighters because an open investigation into their backgrounds automatically prevents them from being deported. Ex-Taliban members claim they may be subject to torture or the death penalty in Afghanistan, and human rights law bars Germany from being an accomplice to torture.

“Membership of the Taliban as such cannot lead to a positive decision on the asylum application,” a spokesman from BAMF, the German office for migration and refugees, told Die Welt. “However, in the event of imminent human rights violations due to a previous membership, a grant of protection may be considered in individual cases.”…

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  1. johan elzinga says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 9:41 am

    Great. When will they arrive in Holland to blow up the Central Station? It would be best when they blow up Merkel and co first. That would be the only thing that could stop this idiocy, no German protest of any size is visible at this time!

    • epistemology says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 7:12 pm

      Germany has to get rid of Merkel and her cronies, only Schulz would be even worse, Merkel isn’t stupid, I don’t know why she let all these terrorists into the country she endangered all the neighbors, Germany has the highest neighbor states count in Europe. But Schulz is utterly stupid and for some reason he loves Islam. We need our Europe to be freed of Islam, no sharia in the free world!

      • Don Foss says

        May 1, 2017 at 10:58 am

        Germany suffers from a 70 year self-loathing that blinds them to the noose they put around their own collective necks.

        • Terry says

          May 1, 2017 at 8:21 pm

          I disagree- Germany does sot suffer from a “70 year self loathing”– they are still the same. German police give bullhorns to Muslims to spout anti-Jewish rants (was in JW); a German judge throws out charges against Muslim who burned down a synagogue (JW-it was because of his religion)

          See my posts (form Honest Reporting, Israel Today and similar news blogs) about “Germany Today” (my quotes)- their foreign minister; UNESCO; etc..

  2. Karen says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:00 am

    A certain person fled from Mecca to Medina because the Meccans were trying to kill him. (Apparently he had been making a nuisance of himself.) The Medinans granted him asylum, and the rest is history.

    • Don Foss says

      May 1, 2017 at 11:00 am

      It was at that time that Qur’an 2:106 was “revealed” (so conveniently). Now we know the REST of the story (Paul Harvey voice).

  3. Bill W. says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:07 am

    I am a member of a murder cult let me in your home so I can murder and rape your family this thinking is why the west will soon disappear if they don,t wake from this PC guilt dream nightmare.

    • Hindu American says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 12:25 pm

      Don’t forget that after these muslims commit murder and rape in Germany they will claim cultural differences as defense. Will probably be let off by an understanding judge. What a mess.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Apr 30, 2017 at 12:44 pm

        As civilized behavior fast disappears from the globe, have you noticed the increasing frequency of the use of the word culture to defend uncivilized behavior? The great George Orwell would have fun with that one.

        • Karen says

          Apr 30, 2017 at 1:43 pm

          Yes, the leftists pose as culture worshipers. All culture is sacred, and equally worthy. Except Western culture, of course.

  4. Kiel says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:08 am

    Germans are a nuisance to themselves nowadays. Self-inflicted pain, you could call it. But, wait, hasn’t Germany been there before – I mean calling catastrophe on their own heads!?

  5. John Hawk says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:33 am

    At some point, I stopped caring about what happens in Germany. There is no cure for stupid.

    • tom parry says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 4:06 pm

      Dear John,
      There are many Germans whom wish to not import or support terrorists, unfortunatly a minority. Please don’t write us all off.

      • Jeanette says

        May 1, 2017 at 1:02 pm

        You night not be a minority, anyway; many Germans may be afraid to speak up, and not without reason!

        I don’t we should be throw westerners of any country to the Abattoir for Humans Cult.

    • epistemology says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 8:09 pm

      You’re absolutely right John. My family was persecuted by the Nazis in Germany and I see them coming back as muzzies. They’re supremacists, want to rule the world and are the worst anti-Semites today. The Germans have still a lot to learn.

      • Terry says

        May 1, 2017 at 8:17 pm

        I agree- AND THE NAZIS ( MY OPINION) NEVER EVEN LEFT.

        THE FOREIGN MINISTER- ON “REMEMBRANCE DAY” (IN ISRAEL, IN REMEMBRANCE OF THE JEWS MURDERED BY THE NAZIS) MET WITH NGO’S OPPOSED TO ISRAEL; SNUBBED PRIME MINISTER BIBI N. ALSO MET WITH THE TERRORISTS-I MEAN PALESTINIANS.

        AND GERMANY IS PUSHING (YET ANOTHER) ANTI-ISRAEL UNESCO PIECE OF SHIT, WITH THE BACKINGS OF SUCH HUMANITARIAN, FREEDOM LOVING COUNTRIES AS EGYPT; ALGERIA; QATAR; ETC.

        IF THE MUSLIMS MURDER 500,000 GERMANS, I COULD CARE LESS. AS LONG AS NONE ARE JEWS.

        And, i am sure that I will be criticized for this statement and point of view. But my grandparents lost many of their relatives to these bastards.

    • BC says

      May 1, 2017 at 5:34 am

      Now the UK is leaving the EU, Germany is the keystone of the structure. If Germany collapses, the EU collapses

      • Terry says

        May 1, 2017 at 8:17 pm

        Might not be that bad.

  6. Hugh Fitzgerald says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:44 am

    So if I am Afghan, and while in Afghanistan I committed rape, mass murder, and so on — perhaps stomping people to death in stadiums, as the Taliban liked to do — I might be punished for this if I am sent home. Therefore, it is the duty of the German state to protect me from being punished by not expelling me. Those of us who were murderers have a human right to stay in Germany. Only those who committed no crime in Afghanistan have no such right, and must be forced to leave Germany and to be sent back to Afghanistan. Give us, please, only your guilty, for that makes them, as far as we in Germany are concerned, the kind of immigrants we most need to protect and to proviide permanent sanctuary. And who better to integrate into our German society than a member of the Taliban who is wanted for murder?.
    It all makes sense..

    • Vyx says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 10:57 am

      Excellent comment.

      I’m waiting for the time when Sweden and Germany officially decide that “refugees” will not be subject to Swedish/German laws because theyr’e from a “different culture” and don’t “understand them.” That will make their lives much easier; they won’t even have to catch and release the muslim criminals, the crime stats will go down and their march off the genetic cliff will continue uninterrupted.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 12:49 pm

      Those of us who were murderers have a human right to stay in Germany. Only those who committed no crime in Afghanistan have no such right…

      There is great clarity to this statement. Upside down, inside out. Let’s go up to Ontario and dig up the corpse of Marshall McLuhan to demand answers. On TV, of course. Never discount the medium.

    • Michael says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 2:24 pm

      Yes, it’s a beautiful thing. ‘I have murdered, raped, killed, tortured. Done things you never wish could be done to another human being. Don’t send me back to face the consequences. Save me from being punished for all those rapes and murders — which, by the way, I thoroughly enjoyed. Yes, save me … let me stay here, kind Europeans … please … I see all your women and children … let me stay here where I can continue my jihad and murder and rape …’

  7. utis says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 10:57 am

    Wait a minute. There’s an Afghan law against the Taliban. So why is so much of Afghanistan Taliban-controlled these days? More importantly, how many returning EX-Taliban are actually killed by the Afghan government? Are they killed for having been Taliban, or for slaughter and injury done while they were Taliban?
    Is Germany’s post-WWII guilt trip really worth losing more native Germans or their children? Why are modern Germans taking crap for what their great-grandfathers did? I thought collective guilt was a no-no.

    • Hugh Fitzgerald says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 11:42 am

      Germans are making up for murdering six million Jews by bending over backwards to admit large numbers of Muslims, and to encourage other European countries to do the same. Those Muslims are carriers of a ferocious and murderous antisemitism, and their presence will ultimately make, or is already making, Europe unsafe for Jews. Is that really the way to try to atone for the Nazi murders?

      I would have thought the Germans would see things clearly, and do everything in their power to keep Muslims, the deadliest carriers of antisemitism today,out of Germany and out of Europe, so that Jews might feel secure. That’s the least the Germans ought to be doing. But instead they are doing the opposite. The Germans did a lot of damage to Europe in World War 1 (a war Germany and Austria-Hungary provoked) and to the world, in World War II. Now, in a different way, but because of a similar failure to think and feel, they are doing it again — to Jews, to Europe, to the world and, of course, to themselves. “Germany Undoes Itself,” wrote Thilo Sarazin. And how.

      • Steve K says

        Apr 30, 2017 at 12:15 pm

        One can understand a sense of German guilt for naziism. But why is Sweden laden with guilt? What did they do? What about France? And England, who were certainly on the correct side of World War 2, along with the US, Canada, and Australia. Yet all of them are taking in Muslims to various degrees.

        This is not just a German problem. This is the entire west. In time, the leftist/Islam alliance will destroy us all, if we let them

    • terry says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 3:39 pm

      utis- IN MY VIEW- THE GERMANS- SOME IF NOT MANY-OF THEIR LEADERS ARE STILL NAZIS AT HEART.

      THE GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTER, ON A RECENT (LIKE LAST WEEK) TRIP TO ISRAEL, AND MET WITH NGO’S (FUNDED, BELIEVED-BY SOROS, AND WHILE “ISRAELI’ ARE REALLY ANTI-ISRAEL) AND SNUBBED PRIME MINISTER BIBI N.

      AND DID THIS ON REMEMBRANCE DAY- A SORT OF MEMORIAL DAY IN ISRAEL-IN REMEMBERING THE SIX MILLION JEWS MURDERED BY THE NAZIS. ( THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN KILLING AND MURDERING. THE NAZIS MURDERED).

      THIS PIECE OF ANIMAL SHIT-AKA THE GERMAN FOREIGN MINISTER- HIS FATHER WAS A NAZI, AND REMAINED ONE, UNREPENTANT, UNTIL HE DIED-ABOUT 5 YEARS AGO.

      THE ROTTEN APPLE DOES NOT FALL FAR FROM THE DISEASED TREE.

      IF THE MUSLIMS KILL A FEW THOUSAND GERMANS, SO WHAT. BETTER THERE THEN HERE.

      AND, I REALIZE, THAT THIS IS AN UNPOPULAR STATEMENT, AND I WILL BE CRITICIZED.
      SO WHAT

  8. J says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Hey, what could go wrong?

    • Michael says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 2:25 pm

      lolol … thank you, J! I needed a good laugh in the middle of all this shit!

  9. Irene Brekelmans says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    And so it is Sweden did not fight in worldwar 2, they stayed neutral, England tried to give the Jews a home in Palestine and the French I don’ know about. There wasn’t 1 arabic country that tried to help us or took refugees. In the end the Americans, Australians and Canadians helped us.

    Germany, thank you, great job in world war 1,2 and,… let them all in and come, BUT KEEP THEM IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY !!!!, AND FRAU MERKEL, DON’T BLAME IT ALL ON THE EU, ALTHOUGH THE EU
    HAS SHOWN WHAT A HORRIBLE ORGANISATION IT IS. They only have been there to make lots and lots of money for themselves, and when push comes to shove, they run .

  10. Irene Brekelmans says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 12:47 pm

    Yes, put them in bed with a hot water bottle, so they don’t get cold feet and read them a fairy tale out of the book” Thousand and one night” I am sure that will please them and will keep them satisfied.

    • Michael says

      Apr 30, 2017 at 3:42 pm

      Irene, you are such a kind soul … you must live in the West! Oh, how wonderful to come West, young Muslim males!

      • terry says

        Apr 30, 2017 at 4:28 pm

        Irene is a realist.

        The Germans are making their own bed. They elected Merkel’s party twice, and will probably do so a third time.

        And the Austrians returned to power a pro-immigration group.

        The refugees aren’t dangerous; they are in danger. Read the posters and banners.

        So, let the slime, I mean, refugees, in.

  11. DRHazard says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    But they won’t even think about all the non-Muslims all over the world who experience murder, kidnapping, rape, expulsion, imprisonment, torture and execution every day at the hands of people like the Taliban.
    It’s some kind of mental derangement that causes selective moral blindness and is widespread in Europe.
    It’s like a virus that lowers the IQ, raises the gullibility quotient and gradually kills the hosts by making them feel safe, even in the face of an imminent threat.

    • Jeanette says

      May 1, 2017 at 1:08 pm

      Anyone who is ignorant about Islam in the day of the Internet is insistently ignorant.

  12. terry says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    Germany, in my view, is discriminatory. Taliban people it will let in. WHAT ABOUT ISIS AND AL QUEIDA FIGHTERS?

    Why the discrimination? After all, they are not Jews or Christians.

  13. RodSerling says

    Apr 30, 2017 at 5:58 pm

    “…and human rights law bars Germany from being an accomplice to torture.”

    Again, there is a theme here. The German authorities use the laws to protect the Afghan and other migrants–the Taliban no less, as if to rub in the noses of German citizens this extravagant “tolerance.” At the same time, they selectively avoid using the law to defend Germans from the violent migrants. Yet the German authorities are more than “accomplices” to the atrocities carried out against Germans. Their polices led to those atrocities, and they continue to force dangerous migrants onto Germans while persecuting any Germans who object to this madness.

    The German authorities could easily make use of existing legislation or write new legislation to deal with these problems in a sensible manner. They do not. It cannot be due to ignorance at this point, given everything that has happened, especially over the past few years, with mass sexual assaults, gang rapes, terrorist attacks, soaring crime rates, huge expenditures, followed by the authorities attempts to cover up or obfuscate what is happening.

    With the upcoming election in the fall, Merkel is trying to manipulate public opinion by doing useless, minor, symbolic things like banning the niqab–which will not likely be enforced anyway (e.g., see France). Meanwhile she continues to allow dangerous migrants from dangerous countries to flood in unchecked, in unmanageably massive numbers. Think of the migrants as hundreds of thousands of people who been granted a kind of diplomatic immunity by Frau Merkel. The magnanimous Queen Merkel has irrevocably decreed it to the world. It is difficult to see, frankly, how Merkel and the authorities could not know what they are doing, and that they could not come up with even partial solutions to this metastasizing mess.

    • Jeanette says

      May 1, 2017 at 1:11 pm

      I agree.

      This is an engineered destruction of the West by the elites of almost all western countries, elites who have the power to infest those countries with Muslims.

      It cannot be coincidence, and therefore it has to be conspiracy.

      • Michael says

        May 1, 2017 at 1:26 pm

        Jeanette, you know I agree with you, and many others. This goes way, way back … a very brilliant and devious plan to destroy democracy, freedom, critical thought, and morality. Islam is the perfect tool for it.

  14. Mark A says

    May 1, 2017 at 11:45 am

    Another step on Germany’s road to becoming the failed state of Germanistan.

    • Jeanette says

      May 1, 2017 at 1:12 pm

      And another successful step toward the Islamic World Caliphate.

  15. Jack Holan says

    May 1, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    Do human rights laws in Germany protect German citizens from Monsters like the Talaban whom Chancellor Merkel must feel sorry for in some way. Let’s review the way the Talaban led Afghanastan : acid in the face of girls wearing make up, beatings to people playing music, ended education for female creating a generation of uneducated women, death for LGBTQ.,Apostacy,Blasphemy,smoking, Drinking Alchohol and Chancellor Merkel is now brining them to you. Ho do you think these Monsters will react to your lifestyle if not today then tomorrow?

  16. a persecuted Christian says

    May 1, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    I don’t understand why the Europeans are willing to flood their countries with Muslims who will not assimilate while at the same time refusing to help or accept the Persecuted Christians.

    • Jack Holan says

      May 2, 2017 at 7:24 am

      I ask the same question plus why does the Pope and Christian Clergy give preference to Muslims at the expense of Christian lives I the Mid East and World wide ANd the Closed Refugee Borders for Christian refugees by World Governments and the UN is Similar to what was done to My People Jews in the 1930s/40s by every County. Thank G-d today we have restored Our Jewish Homeland.

      • a persecuted Christian says

        May 2, 2017 at 9:42 am

        I agree. As a persecuted Christian, I read about the inspiring stories of the Jews, and I draw strength from their amazing stories of perseverance. Again , little was done when six million Jews were slaughtered. We should always repeat ” never again “

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