“The problem is bigger than the Islamic State, this is a third world war, and this is Christians, Jews working with Muslims against outlaws.”
That’s an interesting take on the situation. It is indeed a third world war, but few see it as such, and all too many Muslims and non-Muslims in the West have been notably lacking in their enthusiasm for the fight against these “outlaws.”
“The King of Jordan claims Turkish President has a hand in terrorism,” by Oskar Aanmoen, Royal Central, March 26, 2017 (thanks to Joshua):
The Turkish President, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, “believes in a radical Islamic solution to the problems in the region and the fact that terrorists are going to Europe is part of Turkish policy, and Turkey keeps getting a slap on the hand, but they get off the hook”, writes His Majesty King Abdullah of Jordan in a leaked memo.
It is the British newspaper, The Guardian who published the memo from King Abdullah. The memo is around one-year-old, and much has happened since the King of Jordan claimed that Turkey sends terrorists to Europe as part of state policy. Jordanian embassies in London and Washington did not comment on the leaks.
The leaked memo indicates the US lawmakers were personally briefed by His Majesty King Abdullah in January 2016 about plans for Jordan’s special forces to operate in Libya alongside with British SAS-troops. The memo also states that His Majesty met with US congressional leaders which include John McCain and speaker, Paul Ryan.
Six years of fighting in Syria have dramatically affected the Kingdom of Jordan, which has taken in more than 630,000 Syrian refugees, and His Majesty has repeatedly called for decisive action to end the conflict. His Majesty the King has said, “The problem is bigger than the Islamic State, this is a third world war, and this is Christians, Jews working with Muslims against outlaws.”…
underbed cat says
When Christians and Jews work with muslims against “outlaws”, they are working with muslims to bring the outlaws Isis or any terror group…to slay the Christians and Jews. /Because of sharia law which forbids the muslims to fight against muslims with Christians, unless to decieve, this will not work for long before the muslims turn on the Christians and Jews outnumber and conquer both.
The Christians and Jews who do not know sharia law will not survive, the Christians and Jews who do won’t and they will survive because they know the enemy ‘s deception as a religion, the laws they follow and the precision deception that they use to not identify themselves as the enemy…and the doctrine they follow.
underbed cat says
opps, correction.the Christians and Jews or western governments who have studied sharia will have a better chance to survive since they will know the enemy and why the “outlaws” fights according to sharia and not partner with the outlaw enemy.
mortimer says
UC, you underestimate Western military officers who are fighting ISIS on the front. They ALL study the enemy whether on their own or with others. They ALL understand ISIS… it’s their job to understand what motivates the Islamic supremacist. Unfortunately, our politicians are trying to form alliances and win votes. If they are wilfully ignorant of Islam, it is craftiness on their part.
Some of the politicians are bribed by the Muslim Brotherhood and are figuratively ‘IN BED’ with the Muslim Brotherhood. It is a revolting betrayal of ALL Western principles.
underbed cat says
Thank you for letting me know, the military is diverse, that includes American muslims, whether they will suddenly follow sharia is my concern. The military studies the enemy and hopefully that means the sharia laws and the doctrine, with the “willfully blind “politicians who may be influenced by the “suits” with misinformation and legal issues about what they don’t understand and voice it in the media.
I realize it is complicated, as a muslim really is only obliged by the doctrine…although they fight each other over control and sometimes have no borders and at times pull fighters from where ever muslims live. But observing the rapid hijra, the settling in our country and demanding our silencing is very disturbing, mass migration is the duty that will bring it all here and Americans won’t be able to speak.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, what we have heard from many otherwise intelligent military personnel shows in many cases the same degree of ignorance of Islam that we see with so many civilians.
I would *not* assume that the military really understands Islam, Jihad, and Shari’ah at all.
Wellington says
In agreement with you again, gravenimage. I would note that many enlisted men who have served in Iraq, Afghanistan, et al. do “get” Islam, several of whom I have personally spoken to and who conveyed to me scathing comments about Islam and Muslims, but the higher brass, for the most part, including sadly it seems America’s new Secretary of Defense, James Mattis, for career reasons and other ultimately indefensible reasons, have bought into the nonsensical Islam as something good and noble garbage and that Islamic terrorists have betrayed this wonderful religion, blah, blah, blah.
The Peter Principle is applicable here I think with respect to much of this higher brass. Boy is it ever.
Terry Gain says
Mortimer
You are very knowledgeable about Islam, but I disagree with your statement. Both McMaster and Mattis have claimed that ISIS is not Islamic. Are there 2 Mortimers?
A Harris USA says
mortimer, you are so right.. Our military knows the enemy.. Ask any secular Turk what is going on over in Turkey right now… Thousands have been”arrested” and have just vanished. The leaders of Turkey are setting up the new Ottoman Empire. Erodgen fancies himself as the new Sultan.. Europe is in his sights, make no mistake.. Just a thought how does the USA survive without a Euro-based civilization that we indeed come from.. Fact, we do not.. Out numbered.. That is why we fought the two world wars, to preserve the base of western civilization.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington–I think a lot of the rank and file in the military knows more about Islam at base than does the brass, which is all too often divorced from the facts on the ground.
Michael says
Common thing in pecking orders. The top people, in business or anywhere else, rarely ask or want to know what ‘the lower rung’ folks know — and those people on the ground, literally or figuratively, do know. We just have to ask. And it just hardly ever happens. Certainly the case in almost all businesses. Very, very costly mistake. We hire ‘experts’ etc. All the while, the experts are right there in front of us. This isn’t to say that all people ‘on the ground’ know what the best thing is to do. But if you ask enough of them, you’ll get a very clear picture. Whether the top people can let go of their pride, and do the right thing based on accurate information, is another.
ElderlyZionist says
Where was this memo leaked, and who leaked it? Sounds like another piece of anti-western espionage to me. King Abdullah and President al-Sissi have their flaws, but I think they’re on our side, possibly out of sincere belief. I hope we will continue to work with them, and others will follow.
Keys says
EZionist Pertinent questions widely asked. Lots of leakers lately.
Think it has anything to do with the number one USofA community organizer
and his implants still in high places in US government? I do.
It’s their MO. Minions Organized to carry out their non-transparent agenda “in office” or not.
This kind of deceit, intimidation, and manipulation leads to no good. Their (embedded community organizers) MO is very much like the MO of MO himself except for the killing.
TH says
Part of the Trump Administration’s policy is to help them and hopefully get some other moderate Muslim regimes on board. Egypt and Jordan have no interest in supporting of having anything to do with Obama’s friends the Muslim Brotherhood.
underbed cat says
John McCain and Paul Ryan have not learned about sharia, the law of Islam. They have not identified the enemy…no expert, but hopefully Trump won’t let this be the policy of defeat and not understanding the doctrine they fight in my opinion.
Wellington says
Paul Ryan is a Roman Catholic and has said he greatly admires Thomas Aquinas, the Angelic Doctor of the Catholic Church. Well, I wish he would pay attention to what Aquinas had to say about Islam and Mohammed, particularly in his work, Summa Contra Gentiles, where he clearly lays out his many objections to Islam and its founder. Essentially Aquinas had Islam figured out over seven hundred years ago but Ryan has yet to do so.
I wrote to Speaker Ryan many months ago and indicated several of the problems with Islam, mentioning too what Aquinas had to say about this faith. Never heard back from him. I’ve written to other politicians about Islam but the only one that responded to me was Senator Toomey of Pennsylvania. He did indicate his opposition to taking in Syrian refugees but refrained from addressing any of the particulars about Islam I had conveyed to him. Well, as least in Toomey’s case I got a response.
But I will never give up trying to convey to others what Islam intends for us all. I mean what choice do I have? None as I see it. I have modified the way I present the many problems Islam poses to freedom but that I will cease speaking out against Islam will only occur when I am no more. Again, what choice do I have?
Jon Sobieski says
I would say your chances of getting a response from a Senator or Congressman is about 1%. And that includes form letter.
Stan Lee says
Senator Pat Toomey is definitely one of the “good guys” in Washington, DC. This PA Senator will generally reply when one takes the time to write personally to him.
He will reply in addition to his office responding immediately in a form “Thank you for contacting me” type of quick reply.
Toomey is open-minded, hard-working, and is my “go to” U.S. Senator as a Pennsylvanian who is fortunate to be represented by this serious, industrious, U.S.Senator(R) of PA.
DJ says
As Martin Luther is reported to have said: ‘Here I stand.I can do no other.’
We are witnesses and can report what we see, but we need to be more active. Our states betray us, so we have to learn to protect ourselves and our country.
I really do not want to begin a violent battle, but I expect such a problem to come to me.
mortimer says
Wellington’s experience of writing to politicians is typical. They avoid responding to the points. They offer non-sequiturs generally, because their staffers are writing the letters. The staffers are not even considering the points in all likelihood.
An insider told me that you must TALK TO THE POLITICIAN in order to get your points heard.
Letters with EXCELLENT REASONING will not get read in most cases. They WILL however, COUNT the number of letters FOR or AGAINST a particular issue.
So try to speak to the politician DIRECTLY.
Michael says
Wellington, re Pennsylvania. I have a friend in PA. We had some late night texts a few nights ago re Islam. She said 10 years ago, we never saw a Muslim. Today we see them everywhere.
She said in the capitol, there is a plaque with Arabic verses from the Koran. She said if we tried to put scripture from the Bible there, there would be an uproar … but it is okay, it is ‘tolerant’ and compassionate and loving, I guess we would be told … to have verses from the Koran at the capitol in PA.
Their stealth invasion is everywhere. We are ‘acclimatized’ to seeing Koranic verses, hearing ‘Muslim,’ hearing, gradually, the term ‘sharia law,’ as if it’s a normal part of life.
And we are told, of course, that they only want to ‘co-exist’ with us, which is one of the great lies. Everything they say is a lie, other than they intend to kill all non-believers, and all who don’t submit.
Wellington says
Thanks for that narration,, Michael, about my home state, Pennsylvania. Yes indeed, stealth jihad is everywhere it seems, including here in Penn’s woods, founded by that very tolerant man, William Penn, who puts to shame Muslims everywhere, adhering as they do to just about the most intolerant belief system of all time.
Michael says
Wellington, your efforts to send letters to your senators and others, encourages me to do the same. Thank you for what you’re doing, and sharing that. We must make whatever efforts we can, as small as they may seem. And we never know when a mind will crack open just a bit, and suddenly see what is happening.
I have always Churchill’s words you quoted: “Never, never, never give up.” If I remember right, it was his address to a graduating class at a college. I may be wrong. If I do remember right, it was the entirety of his speech.
Wellington says
As a life-long Pennsylvanian myself, Stan Lee, I agree with you about Senator Toomey. He is open to ideas and it was not just a form letter I received from him but a personal one.
Understandably, even someone like Toomey has to be careful what he says publicly but I think politicians like him know, at least to some extent, that there is just something not right about Islam. More knowledge on their part is still needed of course but unlike so many other politicians (e.g., Pennsylvania’s other Senator, Bob Casey Jr., who is a rubber stamp for Democratic policies and not the sharpest knife in the drawer) Toomey is, as you put it, a “good guy” and gives me hope that eventually Washington will realize that Islam is as inimical to America’s freedoms and its general good health as much as Marxism and Nazism were.
Good to know you are a fellow Pennsylvanian. I love all of America but I love Pennsylvania especially. It is the birthplace of America, a beautiful state, rich in history and my favorite place on earth. I’ve been to all 67 counties and never cease to be amazed by what I find in them. Would that Islam make no more inroads here in this great Commonwealth but I fear that will not be the case, which saddens me greatly. But, in any case, back to the fight. As Churchill said, never, never, never give up. Take care.
Rufolino says
How shocking, Wellington, that you had no reply, even an acknowledgement, from Sen. Ryan. These people are in their positions to represent you. The very least they can do is to say they received your opinions !
These (apparently) self-absorbed people who can’t be bothered to acknowledge the expressed views of the People are distinctly failing in their job.
A few years ago I wrote to Pope John Paul II, and did not even receive the courtesy of an acknowledgement of my careful letter -something hard to forget.
I’m glad to say that every letter addressed to Her Majesty the Queen is individually acknowledged -as it should be.
Linnte says
I have written my Representatives and Senators with some mild responses, that are more politico speak than a demonstration of understanding of Islam. It frustrates the hell out of me. This is all cognitive dissonance and willfull blindness on their parts.
gravenimage says
Even if you don’t get a response, it can effect politicians if they get a huge amount of mail on an issue.
EmHotep says
Erdogan has been using this strategy for the last 15 years, instead of nukes he embedded terrorists (including many TR embassy workers, DTIP imams etc). Now he is not 1 person, he has a network of terrorists globally, only in Turkey he has 20 million members of his party (AKP). In Germany, Holland, Belgium he has millions of supporters.
Even if we can overthrow erdogan, I don’t know how to stop his followers. I still count on the Turkish Army to crack down islamists here in TR, but for the foreign organisations you need to do something, if necessary send the dual citizen erdogan followers back to here.
umbra says
Let erdogan start a major regional war, after he could be cleaned up permanently, along with all his ilk.
Margaret Haugh says
Yea, it is especially interesting since ISIS was trained by the United States during the Obamanation administration. This was planned for a few reasons it seems….. Maybe to destroy the United States and Europe? Part of their New World Order Plan> ……..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw
Michael says
Margaret, just possibly, just possibly ….. Obama was, and is, Muslim, and not an American citizen. Hence his ‘records’ are concealed. We are at pivotal times in history.
Singh the Sikh says
The Christian traitors would be the likes of Merkel, Trudeu and May among others. Merkel an excellent and brilliant academic. But her Phd in physics useless in the real sense. She cannot make out Islamist threat and unable to outmanevour her Turkish counterpart, which is pretty dumb and gutless, since Erdogan has made intentions clear on many occasions , and now a stark warning from an credible and informed source, the Jordanian leader, but expect inaction and indecisiveness to continue.
mortimer says
Merkel should have stayed in the lab and left politics to those who understand the JIHAD DOCTRINE, KAFIR DOCTRINE, TAQIYYA DOCTRINE, and MISOGYNY DOCTRINE of Islam. The leaders Singh mentioned are CLUELESS about those doctrines.
umbra says
She is an opportunist with great ambitions. She was never going to stay in the lab. Her doctoral degree is just a step towards the next goal.
OneGerman says
Frau Merkel’s Ph.D. thesis was largely ghost-written for her by her then adulterous lover, now husband, Prof. Sauer.
She is dumb as a box of hammers, but always been a willing tool for anyone who will promote her to positions of power and help her keep them.
The op-ed that brought down Helmut Kohl and won her party leadership? Ghost-written for her by Kurt Biedenkopf, Kohl’s old enemy.
Since then, she has let Germany’s commie/Green media dictate her policies. All in the interest of clinging to power.
The miserable bitch, hope she burns in hell.
JIMJFOX says
Many highly qualified people are in fact, stupid beyond belief. ‘Common sense’ is an oxymoron.
Rufolino says
They say, “as stupid as only an intellectual can be.”
umbra says
“Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them” G.O.
Michael says
Singh the Sikh, I disagree that Merkel can’t make out the Islamist threat, or that most of these leaders are unaware of the threat. To the contrary, they are welcoming in the immigration and all of its violence, in order to achieve a much bigger goal, which is destruction of sovereign nations and democracy, and institute a one world government. This plan has been underway for a long time. To ascribe ignorance to these people, is, I think, ignorant on our part. These people do not have ‘good intentions’ for the peoples of their countries. Not at all.
If there is something other than a world caliphate in 50 years … if we have not devolved to barbaric Muslim conditions, throughout the world … if there are historians left to tell the tale, I suspect they will write of these years in great detail, and all that is happening, that most have not yet seen, and of the pivotal battle that is now being waged throughout the world: civilization vs. barbarism … Christianity vs. Islam. As many would say, God vs. Satan.
Angemon says
“To ascribe ignorance to these people, is, I think, ignorant on our part. ”
And to ascribe a conspiracy requires proof.
Michael says
Angemon, do you not believe there is a plan for one world government? For the destruction of sovereign nations?
Angemon says
“Angemon, do you not believe there is a plan for one world government? For the destruction of sovereign nations?”
Not an argument.
gravenimage says
Michael, I have the greatest respect for you, but there is no reason to believe that leaders in the West are trying to destroy democracy.
I know many ordinary people who are also in denial about the threat of Islam, and they are foolish and dangerous, but are not trying to destroy democracy and replace it with a Caliphate, either.
Michael says
thanks for your words, gravenimage. I hope I am too pessimistic on that score. I generally am a very optimistic person. All of this causes such grave concern sometimes, and it seems so little is done on leadership’s part. Sometimes all of it *seems* so obvious, so transparent. As you have reminded me, and I need to remind myself … much of it is due to not knowing.
Thanks for the ‘kick’ … 🙂
gravenimage says
I would never “kick” you, Michael. Thanks for the reply. 🙂
Anonymous says
In my opinion, it is not possible that Merkel, Trudeau et al are ignorant of the current and future fallout of their actions.
The much more likely scenario is that they are importing a locked-down voting bloc to secure their own (or their parties’) future seats in elections as well as a cheap labor force to meet lobbying industry’s demands. And if the imported masses refuse to work, then they can subsist on welfare which again increases the size of the welfare state i.e. bigger government. Which, for all we know, can be used as a reason, down the road, to dismantle the welfare state.
All of these what-if scenarios must have been examined before governments decided to stand down and let the refugees enter en masse.
As a bonus, these politicians get applauded by the UN and other talking heads for their humanitarian gestures. Any mayhem is for the plebs and local police forces to sort out.
mortimer says
‘Fighting’ King Abdullah of Jordan who personally flew a mission against ISIS, is correct about Turkey. They are working against the interests of NATO and getting a mere slap on the wrist for costing NATO lives and millions of dollars a day. Meanwhile, Turkey is receiving oil from ISIS and sending arms to them as payment.
Without Erdogan’s complicity, ISIS would have collapsed. Erdogan has done little to fight ISIS, but instead has committed genocide against the Kurds who are fighting ISIS.
Erdogan is enemy number 1 for NATO. NATO should remove Erdogan from power.
Singh the Sikh says
NATO has lost both it’s balls and marbles.
JIMJFOX says
Agreed. Time to throw out Turkey, along with the UN.
mortimer says
Singh, I hear your frustration. However, NATO is not a gang of vigilantes. It’s composed of many countries with different points of view. Nevertheless, NATO responded strongly to the Russian threat in Ukraine by having MAJOR WAR GAMES in Poland. This was a forceful message to Russia not to invade anywhere. The Russians were so frightened that they had air raid drills.
NATO has no interest in invading Arab or Muslim countries. Terrorist organizations like ISIS are a different matter.
NATO needs a strong mandate from its member governments to take action. Establishing a consensus is tough. The wisdom of the generals is over-ruled by the needs of politicians to be re-elected. NATO is strong, but many national politicians are CLUELESS about Islamic supremacism. Your job and mine is to educate the politicians and voters.
underbed cat says
Approximately 57 counties are members of the OIC, Organization of Islamic Conference, with common goals in mind. That also includes Turkey/Jordan and apparently have a lot of power in NATO, such as deciding which western countries to receive “refugee’s”,enforcing the narratives of a peaceful, tolerant persona and encourages the enforcement of sharia law hate speech laws…in western countries. So strong mandate…these very same countries will be fighting over the caliphate…the solutions seem very difficult. On top of which the problem of not changing one word of the doctrine…it is a little depressing..
Michael says
a very complex picture with a history that goes back many decades. I agree with you, underbed cat … can get depressing at times. which is why I appreciate the bits of humor and sarcasm that is often shared here!
yoga guru demon baur from underworld says
This is not wrong invading Muslim countries and keeping Muslim population minority for election victory and to reduce corruption. Otherwise see Lebanon. And Iran Azerbaijanis and Turks are problem maker. Persians/brawn/black people are less intelligent. Euro-Mongol Muslims in central Asia , Azeris and Turks are dangerous and cunning.
gravenimage says
yoga guru demon baur from underworld wrote:
Persians/brawn/black people are less intelligent.
…………………
What claptrap. The threat of Islam is not about race at all.
EmHotep says
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2017/03/27/turkeys-caliph-erdogan-calls-the-eu-the-new-crusaders-because-they-dont-want-to-give-membership-to-a-muslim-country/
yoga guru demon baur from underworld says
Turks, Azerbaijan Kirghistan and Tajikistan are major Geo politics game planners. Pakis and Persians have less brain.
Eric Jones says
Hear.Hear.
Eric
Vic says
I do not trust King Abdullah or his government. Jordan has needed to rid itself of the MB but has not been able. The majority of the population today is Palestinian. The minority are Jordanians. Plus two large refugee populations from Syria and Iraq.
Since the 1970 Civil War between the PLO and the King, the MB has continued to infiltrate all areas of life. Today the MB is entrenched and the monarchy is entrapped. It is a cancer that consumes them daily until one day it will topple the kingdom. King Abdullah is quite conscious of that. The Arab League is divided on the MB. Some have banned them, some tolerate them as long as the MB stays out of their country. So, the Arab League is not going to side with Jordan.
The reality is that no one can fight to eradicate the MB for anyone else. It has to start with a determination to take that first step and agree to submit the country to radical surgery because it is a matter of life and death. Exactly as we must do. Declare the MB and their partners as FTOs. There will be a huge social upheaval as we find out how entrenched they already are in our country. Look for PC non-Muslims to come to their rescue in the face of the depth of corruption.
Jordan is an ally of convenience, same as they are to Israel. Make no mistake, they are not our friends or Israel’s friends. The Saudis, Egypt, and the UAE have declared the MB as FTOs. John Kerry made many, many visits to the UAE to try to dissuade them not to declare the MB as a terrorist organization. Obama and Kerry felt that if the UAE caved in, then the new Pres would be more reluctant to go through with his stated decision to add the MB to the FTO list. To the UAEs credit, they did not listen to John Kerry or to his well infiltrated Department of State lackeys with their non-confrontational ME foreign policies. It would be interesting to know the reasons for the UAEs decision.
Two incisive articles by Caroline Glick on Jordan for your review. One is about the 23-year old peace agreement between Israel and Jordan and its reality on the ground. http://carolineglick.com/the-real-face-of-jordan/
The other: on the internal convulsions of the Hashemite Kingdom. Light at the end of a tunnel? http://carolineglick.com/a-test-for-king-abdullah/
I wonder if these are the facts the DOS’ Obama leftovers are briefing Sec Tillerson and the Pres on. Fantasy vs. reality!
jack cohen says
jordan needs another black september
umbra says
Jordan needs to clean house, but is too poor and too weak to do so.
gravenimage says
Jordan will never really be able to clean house–it is majority-Muslim, and cannot reject Islam.
EmHotep says
https://youtu.be/2rYCHX4QrcE
Eric Jones says
King Abdullah of Jordan is correct about Erdogan. The meglomanic Erdogan and islamic doctrine are a perfect storm. Islam says conquer the infidels in the hands of a mad man who wants to revive the Ottoman Turkish Empire. There may be ground war in Europe if Erdogan gets all of the dictorial power he wants in Turkey. Erdogan’s followers in Europe, plus muslim refugees and the Turkish army against countries in Western Europe that do not submit. It will be the Gates of Vienna all over again.
in the end the islamist will lose. The Turkish army will be destroyed. Muslims will be expelled from Europe. Turkey willl be knocked back 100 years. It will be 100 years before you see another muslim in Europe. Once again a mad man with a mutstache.
Eric
Rufolino says
Good Heavens, Europe is far too politically correct to be nasty to Moslems, no matter what a minority think. Europe no longer has a backbone.
Kiel says
Left/Liberal/Feminazi, corrupt RINO’s, Dems, Media – for short: GLUE = Globalist Liberal Utopian Elitists (on both sides of the Atlantic) dare not see the reality which is too grim. – The utopian-liberal social engineering project is thought of as a never ending development towards a flawless world in which gender, skin color, and national characteristics have vaporized.
This ideology has persisted in the West since the days of Dwight D. Eisenhower culminating with Hussein Obama and in Europe with the European Union.
Now the shortcomings of this ideology of human progress have come to a standstill due to Islamic terrorism.
Interested can study this subject at Stephen Hopgood in his “The Endtimes of Human Rights”
Stan Lee says
Anyone who can refer to a map of the time of the Turkish Empire, (pre-WW1) will see that Erdogan’s attention is focused upon reclaiming that empire, with him,of course, as the “Caliph” of the Caliphate he wants to resurrect. Empowering Islam is highest on his list, his “old school” Islam and his absolutist domination of Turkey are the cornerstones of resurrecting the power Turkey once held.
With all of this in mind, what business would Turkey have as a NATO partner or becoming a member of the EU? He is already telling a weak German Chancellor what Turkish involvement in Germany really means, he has made his statement of Turkish Islam defining Germany’s policy since Turks have become a forceful minority in Germany, which once was the strongest, most productive western European state.
He also has felt powerful enough to state, with confidence, that a war exists between Islam and non-Muslim Europeans.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
My guess is that John Brennan deep sixed Gen. Flynn. It was a felony, sure, but the alliance (globo-socialists + Moslems) could not have him sitting at President Trump’s right hand. It was a dirty piece of business that had to be done, with assistance from the compliant media.
JawsV says
King Abdullah of Jordan has an American mother — Lisa Halaby, who married King Hussein.
silvergreycat says
And a Kuwaiti-born Palestinian wife… http://www.biography.com/people/queen-rania-23468
https://www.queenrania.jo/en/rania
gravenimage says
Jordan’s King: “The fact that terrorists are going to Europe is part of Turkish policy”
…………………………..
Jihad terrorists would be heading to Europe in any case–certainly, they are not all passing through Turkey, especially those from North Africa.
But there is no doubt that Turkey is not just doing nothing to prevent Jihad terrorists from reaching Europe, but is actively funneling them there–a very dangerous situation for Europe, and utterly grotesque given that Turkey is supposed to be an ally.
More:
“The problem is bigger than the Islamic State, this is a third world war, and this is Christians, Jews working with Muslims against outlaws.”
…………………………..
Um…the first part of this is absolutely correct–the latter–Muslims working with Infidels against “outlaws”, not so much…
John A. Marre says
Turkey is two-faced. One face tells us that it’s open to the West and wants peace. The other face talks to Muslims and encourages them to hate us.
EmHotep says
Because we are divided, it is like USA, you have left and right wings. We have muslims/islamists and non muslim or secular people. In the meantime islamists are strong with the dictator erdogan but we have also very strong secular roots as a result of Ataturk’s revolution in 1922.
In the 16th of April there is a referendum if we win the referendum with superior NO votes, erdogan will start to fall. It will be the end of political islam for good.
gravenimage says
I wish you and your nation all the best, EmHotep!
warren raymond says
“….this is a third world war, and this is Christians, Jews working with Muslims against outlaws.”…
“Outlaws” in this context means those who don’t submit. People like us.
somehistory says
I’ll have to wait to read all of the good comments, but I seem to recall a recent article on JW about Jordan and it not being so nice to Christians, and the fact also that they have refused to send a terrorist to the States for prosecution, even though they agreed to send criminals to the U.S. when those criminals had been killing Americans.
I believe it is a woman who is now a *journalist* but several years ago, helped in the terror attack that killed some American children and/or their parents. I believe it was in FrontPage Mag.
Kings are like regular politicians…they lie to get support. This king is also moslim. Taught to lie from birth. Who can trust someone taught to lie?
Tim Palya says
What does the fact that Turkey is a NATO member state say about the West?
gravenimage says
Even during the Cold War, this made little sense. Now it makes no sense at all.
Robert Crawford says
What a pity his words were wasted on ISIS’ friend John McCain.
Geoffrey Britain says
“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
Algerian leader Houari Boumedienne speaking at the UN, 1974“
yoga guru demon baur from underworld says
Islams Mahdi is a st Thomas christian place called Muziris / Mahodayapuram and Islam is fake. 600 bc conspiracy published in 600 AD.
yoga guru demon baur from underworld says
12 th imam is orthodox judo christian group.Soon they conquer Istanbul . Turkey is a head dog and Saudi is a camel. altogether a donkey.
frederick King says
The king of jordan is correct in many regards.
Jeanette says
Any group that follows a book that commands that most of the world’s population be murdered is dangerous.
ALL members of that group are potential murderers. If they weren’t, they would leave the group that follows the book that commands that everyone else be murdered.
Daniel Triplett says
Agreed. One is either in the Ummah our he isn’t. No in between.
There are no moderate Muslims. None can be trusted.
m says
I find it hard to believe he isn’t part of this policy or his spouse and children and in laws.
Lilythewise says
I do not trust Muslims because their holy book calls for my subjugation or death.
Jizyah is not a tax it is the religious equivalent of Jim Crow for non-Muslims.
m says
Well then his country Jordan which is just Palestine is radical muslim country cause they implement Sharia Law.I think Muslims at this point the radical ones are just trying to cop a feel of the Jews and Christiansand do other horrible things through this so called refugee crisis which is actually sending in Saudi terrorists. Saudi and Jordan are united too. Pallywood. This Pallywood shill acting high and mighty gave more gifts to Condoleeza Rice than Bush in 2007 to negatively reinforce Bush for his war on terror. As such radical Muslims are black and brown supremacists.
Schrödinger says
His Majesty King Abdullah and Her Royal Highness Queen Rania are welcomed and feted by the media and political class wherever and whenever they travel in the West. Unlike, for example, several notable critics of islam. Nevertheless, his commendably forthright comments about Turkey’s real intent in the ongoing Hijra invasions of Europe are all the more refreshing given you’re unlikely to hear any similar insight or frankness from an elected European or Western politician — excepting Gert Wilders or Marine Le Pen.
In one of his recent, typically menacing, barking mad monologues in Turkey, Erdogan boasted “we’ve taken a 1,000 years to create this nation”. And their reinvigorated jihad to recreate the Ottoman Empire is also meeting with substantial ongoing success. It helps immeasurably, in any conflict, when one party persistently refuses to even admit it’s adversary’s true intent and instead rolls up the white flag.
Jordan itself suffered for four centuries under Ottoman rule. Despite being a muslim, it’s King continues a proud family tradition of occasionally revealing what they might really think about many muslims and their islam. His father King Hussein, whose own father was assassinated by a Palestinian, tired of the threatening presence of so many in his country. In 1970 some ten to twenty thousand were killed in the civil war known as Black September. Expelling many of the remaining fedayeen to Lebanon merely displaced the problem there which in turn quickly lead to it’s ugly, protracted civil war. Primarily a jihad declared by these “Palestinians” upon Christians, by the time of a tactical truce to pause that conflict not one Lebanese Christian leader hadn’t been either imprisoned, expelled or murdered. The resulting Lebanese diaspora now exacerbates the problem of muslim criminality and the increasing global jihad, particularly in Western countries foolish enough to have accepted any muslim Lebanese.
Anyway, the craven, largely unelected EU political class will of course ignore or even outright dismiss His Serene Highness’s warning. They’ll instead continue working steadfastly towards the establishment of a United European Emirates — if they get the job done quickly enough, one crowned with Sultan Erdogan as their Caliph.