Would you have expected them to reject what the Qur’an says?
“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other, and because they spend their wealth to maintain them. Good women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them. As for those from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and beat them.” — Qur’an 4:34
Muhammad “struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?” — Aisha (Sahih Muslim 2127)
“PA TV instructs viewers who ‘use beatings and violence to solve marital problems’ to ‘obey’ the Quran’s ‘religious rules for beatings,'” by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik, Palestinian Media Watch, April 6, 2017:
What might be considered a bad April Fool’s Day joke in other parts of the world, was taught in earnest on official Palestinian Authority TV on April 1. A female PA TV reporter instructed those of PA TV’s viewers “who use beatings and violence to solve their marital problems” to “carefully read” and “obey” the Quran’s “religious rules for beatings”:
Official PA TV reporter:“To those who use beatings and violence to solve their marital problems: Carefully read the Quranic verse again [Sura 4:34]. There are solutions before giving beatings. If you have to, there are religious rules for beatings that must be obeyed. Guys, the goal of the beatings is rebuke in a way that does not cause injury. You can even go ask someone about it.”
[Official PA TV, Talk of the Land, April 1, 2017]Although the reporter did remind viewers that “there are solutions before giving beatings,” she didn’t categorically reject violence against women. That this green light for violence was given in earnest, and did not constitute an April Fool’s Day’s prank, is clear from other similar instructions disseminated by religious authorities on PA TV that Palestinian Media Watch has exposed….
Guy Macher says
She’s gonna get a paddlin’.
mortimer says
THE MOST FEMINIST of religions has got a good slugging for women who step out of line.
-I have not seen any women suffering as much as the believing women.” -Aish commenting on a Muslim wife whose skin was green from beatings (Sahih al Bukhari 5825)
-“Hang up your scourge where your wife can see it.” Kash-shaf (the revealer) of al-Zamkhshari (Vol. 1, p. 525)
Sooooooooo feminist that women CAN’T STAND IT!
(sarc/off)
Benedict says
Yes, and if the beatings are agreed upon by consenting adults who, in our free and enlightened West, could possibly object to it? S&M clubs seems to be rather popular and publicly advertised for here also.?
gravenimage says
Benedict, I am no fan of S&M, but consensual actions between adults is a totally different thing from wife beating.
Also, S&M as practiced is more theoretical than literal–you don’t see S&M enthusiasts walking around with black eyes and other injuries, nor do you find them beating others to death. Would that this were true with Islam.
Michael says
Excellent points, gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Michael.
Frank Verderber says
How astonishingly easy. If only western men unferstood that to control a wife they need only beat her carefully. Isn’t that called interrogation technique?
Westman says
“..the goal of the beatings is rebuke in a way that does not cause injury.” Beatings in a way that does not injury? Define injury.
Obviously, Muhammad’s pounding on Aisha’s chest did not rise to, “injury”, since the man was Allah’s perfection.
The hijab and abaya are the perfect public cover for bruises and welts.
gravenimage says
Westman wrote:
The hijab and abaya are the perfect public cover for bruises and welts.
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True, Westman. And if hubby gets a little over-enthusiastic, here are some handy make-up tips for the gals to cover up those bruises:
“Morocco: TV show teaches how women can conceal a beating with makeup”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/11/morocco-tv-show-teaches-how-women-can-conceal-a-beating-with-makeup
God, I hate Islam.
BC says
‘god’ I hate so called ‘feminists’ who in fact are the greatest hypocrites alive today
Angemon says
And in the story about the man who beat his wife until her skin turned green , muhammad sided with the abuser.
gravenimage says
Of course he did, Angemon. Bloody thug. Has any figure in history been responsible for more suffering than the “Prophet” Muhammed?
Michael says
No, gravenimage. There has never been anyone in history, who has been responsible for such brutality, violence, cruelty, subjugation, murder. Sickening. It’s unfortunate in the several attempts on his life, someone didn’t succeed early on and murder this demon. Imagine the world free of Islam. How astoundingly different it all would be today.
gravenimage says
Yes–and that this dark ages savagery is resurgent in our own time is utterly horrifying. We all have to stand strong.
Nancy Albert says
They are also perfect for hiding the fact you married your niece.
marina says
Once a lady in a green veil came to Aisha and complained to her about her abusive husband. Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!”
Moroccan T.V went so far as to air ” makeup tips for hiding domestic violence”
And some apologists call it “the most feminist religion”. What a joke!
jewdog says
Muslims have their own version of My Boyfriend’s Back: My husband’s back and I’m gonna’ get a beatin’ – Hela hela, my husband’s back!
Michael says
sometimes i read all this, and get almost a physically ill feeling … it’s like ingesting poison, just reading about it.
and this is what we are up against, and mustn’t shrink from.
okay. onward.
gravenimage says
I know how you feel, Michael.
Michael says
gravenimage, you have been following this, studying this, aware of it all, much longer than me. I admire your strength, fortitude, dedication, your steel in the face of all this.
I’m not a violent man. i abhor conflict. i have within me the sides that everyone does. and when push comes to shove, i will fight. but i realize i am ‘acclimating’ myself to what is coming, what is here. i just sometimes can hardly believe that there exists such a brutal, evil, hateful, inhuman ideology. sometimes it about makes me cry, you know …. how people can be this way.
i read the article about the 52-year old woman who was stabbed on the streets in Marseilles. the 29-year old gas station attendant in Australia who was murdered by Muslim teenagers. it’s like, well, okay … carry your gun, brother. carry. and be ready at any moment. because these sons of bitches are coming out more and more, and we don’t know where.
this battle needs every warrior. i am gathering my strength. and i am grateful for you, gravenimage, and so many who care, who have been sounding the alarm, learning, sharing, for such a long time. i am grateful for you all, and grateful and humbled to be with such beautiful men and women.
i don’t know if we’ll win against this evil. but goddamnit i will go to my last breath fighting it. if I go down, i hope i take a few of the m-f’ers with me. I hope I go down shooting! lol … f _ _ _ ’em!
Manny says
Wife beating is apparently so commonplace that “you can even go ask someone about it” if you don’t know how to do it. Sicko. Keep them out.
Oliver says
Where are feminists protesting this?
They were out in full force against a PRIVATE COMMENT THAT TRUMP MADE OVER A DECADE AGO- A COMMENT.
WHERE IS THE PROTEST????
THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING.
Dacritic says
I would like to beat her. She looks fleshy enough, shouldn’t feel much pain…
Geez.
Zakir Naik actually recommended that men beat their wives with a toothbrush or a handkerchief. A handkerchief. I know if I swing my handkerchief at my wife, she’d look at me like I’ve gone bonkers.
“What are you, a gay man?? Swinging your rag at me?”
gravenimage says
The “toothbrush” thing is actually a Miswak which Muslims use as a sort of fibrous toothpick.
It can be up to four feet long before being cut down. Far from the comical and (relatively) benign idea of beating anyone with a modern toothbrush, it is more akin to attacking someone with a large stick or rubber hose.
Michael says
thanks for the background, gravenimage. the problem is, most of us have no education in these things. and so we hear ‘toothbrush,’ and we think of OUR toothbrush. We are fools if we believe a single good thing about Islam. absolute fools. thank you for that clarification.
Ian B says
A male who physically harms a woman is not a true man. He is a despicable coward.
Mohammad and all males who revere him are such types.
eur says
Nor are men who beat up other men for being gay. In Holand a pack of Moroccans have beaten some gays who went hand in hand. Now there is a campaign of solidarity but it is not said that they have been Moroccans, that the root of everything is the violent Islamic heteropatriarchy. We only admit that there is a problem of our society when the attackers are indigenous, if they are Muslims it is said that it is not necessary to point out to a community that is a concrete problem of some individuals and in any case is a problem of all. Lie, it’s a problem we had but the Muslims have increased. We were on the right track, society was becoming more tolerant, more Muslims less tolerance.
Ian B says
Yes Eur, more Moslems less tolerance.
More moslems, more violence.
More moslems, more rapes.
More moslems, more murderous atrocities.
More moslems, more squeals of victimhood from them.
More moslems, more no-go areas
Fewer moslems … the better … -> 0
gravenimage says
All true, Ian and Eur.
Michael says
A man who hits a woman, who beats a woman — my god. he should be strung up. I have ‘zero tolerance’ for that bullshit.
Tell me how it’s different beating on a child — which Islam permits. Beat on someone who can beat the shit out of you in return, you f _ _ _.
sorry for the profanity … sometimes i just can’t help it.
Jeanette says
“Men have authority over women because Allah has made the one superior to the other,”
MUSLIM men have authority over women because Allah has made the one INFERIOR to the other (was Allah unable to make both the same value, or did he do such injustice DELIBERATELY?)
“They guard their unseen parts because Allah has guarded them.”
They guard their unseen parts because they have been BUTCHERED by Islam. Everything between the legs sliced off, leaving nothing but raw meat which is then sewn up – which leaves a pouch for urine and blood to accumulate, and infections to thrive.
By the way, the destruction left by the butchers is sewn up in such a way that the Muslim men can get the same sensation with the butchered woman as he enjoyed with little boys earlier in his life.
29:00 – 35:00
http://bing.com/videos/search?q=ann+barnhardt+video+islam+sexual&view=detail&mid=78659C23DF2A43376AC778659C23DF2A43376AC7&FORM=VIRE
Dim-witted western women had best wake up, or they are going to be sorrier than they could ever have imagined.
ibrahim itace says
Mr Spencer, your hatred against islam makes silly. Muslim jurists made it plainly clear that beating of is wife of wife is the last resort and is symbolic to rebuke her to behave well and go beyond this symbolic beating by whole scale violence to inflict injury on her. if he does that it will tantamount to harm in which the wife can sue the husband to get the marriage dissolved. for better understanding of this symbolic beating the Quran narrated the story a prophet tempted by the Satan who visited him with calamity and told to worship him to get relief. his wife asked him to agree .he vowed to beat her 100 strokes. Allah substituted the 100 with single heating with a broom in bundle of 100 will not inflict any pain. but filthy Christians to mischief are always saying Islam authorised violence against women to sell the pagan religion evolved from mithraism inspired by devil.
Michael says
The stories of women who have escaped from Islam — yes, the apostates who renounce the brutality of Islam — seem to have a few different things to say. Islam is sick, violent, brutal, Satanic — the most evil ideology that has ever unfortunately existed on this planet. Your apologies and ‘explanations’ for Islam and its treatment of women, your attempts to whitewash the violence and brutality against women, won’t really go too far here. ‘filthy Christians’ … lol … right … that was a good one.
gravenimage says
Good post, Michael.
gravenimage says
Repulsive apologist for Muslim savagery ibrahim itace wrote:
Mr Spencer, your hatred against islam makes silly (sic).
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How *dare* a ‘filthy Infidel’ have a problem with Muslims beating their wives? How silly! sarc/off
More:
Muslim jurists made it plainly clear that beating of is (sic) wife of wife (sic) is the last resort and is symbolic to rebuke her to behave well and go beyond this symbolic beating by whole scale violence to inflict injury on her. if (sic) he does that it will tantamount to harm in which the wife can sue the husband to get the marriage dissolved.
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What absolute crap. Firstly, this would be appalling even if it *were* “symbolic”–after all, women are not allowed to beat their husbands, “symbolically” or otherwise. Islam is grotesquely male supremacist.
The “last resort” for–what, exactly? To command absolute obedience in all matters. *Ugh*.
And if wife beating were “symbolic”, why would it be a “last resort”? After all, it would milder than a rebuke, insult, or banishing from bed.
Ant the idea that Muslim jurists grant divorces to Muslimahs who are beaten by their husbands is obvious claptrap. This is what is happening, right in Britain:
“Shame on Sharia: Women beaten, robbed and raped. A chilling expose of how BRITISH females are being sentenced to lives of misery by Muslim courts”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3930510/Shame-Sharia-Women-beaten-robbed-raped-chilling-expose-BRITISH-females-sentenced-lives-misery-Muslim-courts.html
Of course, it is even worse in Dar-al-Islam, where there is no concern over civilized Infidel law.
More:
for (sic) better understanding of this symbolic beating the Quran narrated the story a prophet tempted by the (sic) Satan who visited him with calamity and told to worship him to get relief. his (sic) wife asked him to agree .he (sic) vowed to beat her 100 strokes. Allah substituted the 100 with single heating (sic) with a broom in bundle of 100 will not inflict any pain.
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What crap. This is Qur’an 38:44, and it says *nothing* about the beating being symbolic:
Pickthall: And (it was said unto him): Take in thine hand a branch and smite therewith, and break not thine oath. Lo! We found him steadfast, how excellent a slave! Lo! he was ever turning in repentance (to his Lord).
Shakir: And take in your hand a green branch and beat her with It and do not break your oath; surely We found him patient; most excellent the servant! Surely he was frequent in returning (to Allah).
Does this Muslim troll think we haven’t read the foul Qur’an?
More:
but (sic) filthy Christians to (sic) mischief are always saying Islam authorised violence against women to sell the pagan religion evolved from mithraism inspired by devil.
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Never mind that ibrahim itace is babbling about “mithraism” again–his main point is that the filthy Kuffar are not allowed to say *anything* negative about Islam–its being true is no excuse.
Note that if Infidels here were lauding Islam for keeping the b*tches in line, he would be all for it. *Ugh*.
We hadn’t seen this vicious Muslim apologist here for a while–now he has turned up again, like a bad penny…
Michael says
Bravo, gravenimage. Excellent retort — called truth — to a practitioner of the most evil ideology that has ever existed, and that has existed for far too long. More than a day was too long.
gravenimage says
Michael, ibrahim itace muhammed is a notorious Muslim apologist here–he hadn’t posted much since the early part of the year, but now he seems to be back, spewing his nasty Taqiyya.
Jeanette says
Taqiyya.
Michael says
Jeanette, can we just make that one of their nicknames? perfect response.
Eur says
In Western societies there is still the problem of gender-based violence … it is a terrible thing and we are slowly trying to remedy it. Never, a Western woman has gone to an Islamic society fleeing the macho violence of our society. By contrast, there are thousands of women, homosexuals … who flee from Islamic societies to the West seeking freedom.
Edward Dillon says
How can anyone believe that GOD would condone the beating of one of his children. Mohammad and his followers are practicing a totally evil religion and the devil is dancing in hell waiting for their arrival.
Jeanette says
Females, one of Allah’s children?
You must be kidding!
A female born into Muslim culture would be better off if she were a food animal – killed off early in life, missing the torture, hate and abuse of decades.