No matter how bloodthirsty jihadis become, and how high the death toll mounts, Islamic supremacist spokesmen will claim victim status. It is a tested tactic that has been proven repeatedly to bamboozle Western authorities and get them to start signing checks, so why not?
“Palestinian Authority Official: Terrorists Who Murder Americans Are ‘Victims,’” Washington Free Beacon, April 21, 2017:
…Riyad Mansour, the “Permanent Observer of the State of Palestine [sic] to the United Nations,” was asked to comment on the PA’s payment of benefits to the family of the terrorist who murdered an American tourist last year.
The Taylor Force Act, a bill under consideration in Congress that would cut U.S. aid to the PA over the payments, is named after the U.S. Army veteran and Vanderbilt graduate student who was killed.
The PA spends approximately $300 million a year on payments to convicted terrorists and their families, money that originates largely from aid donations by western countries. The terrorism benefits program, which comprises around eight percent of the PA budget, has emerged as a significant point of contention in U.S.-Palestinian relations.
“I don’t know exactly what you’re referring to,” Mansour responded, before claiming that the PA is against the killing of civilians. The reporter repeated his query about Taylor Force.
“Who? Who is?” Mansour asked.
“Taylor Force, an American who was killed in Jaffa last year, March 8, and the family of the terrorist who killed him are receiving payments from the PA. What do you have to say about that?” the reporter asked.
“Listen, this issue is, that is now, uh, in circulation for discussions,” Mansour said, later asking rhetorically, “Who is the killer and who is the terrorist?”
“There are a large number of Palestinians who are receiving compensation,” Mansour acknowledged. “They are victims of Israeli terrorism.”
Troybeam says
The problem with Islamic victims is they are always the victim never the attacker. Islam is a political movement intent on destruction of all that is not Islamic, from my perspective Islam needs to be removed from any and all nations that are not Islamic.
Having sympathy towards Islam and bringing Muslims into your nation is asking for mass suicide, look at Europe, its culture is being destroyed by Islam’s political movement of invade and conquer, use any means to seize control, its starting here in America becoming more open instead of secret in the shadows.
Glyn Davies says
And can I ask do you think Donald Trump will stop any of this passive invasion at all…we are having them take up areas North of Adelaide South Australia and not intergrate what so ever..offering many thousands of $$$ more than a house is worth just so they can have the whole street…Its where I grew up and has changed so dramaticlly for the worse …they do not use garbage bins and so it blows every where and about 4 weeks ago one store owner left a small enclosed truck full of dates and sweets parked in an unused car park over night and some fukwit set it on fire …then there was shit every where….I think we should deport them
mgoldberg says
the disconnect that the PA rep. demonstrates, is just this: any land not ruled by arab muslims is seen as a victim of others, especially jews. And to simply say that all the homicided in Israel, and Judea, Samaria, by arabs, muslims, are simply due to terrorist oppression by Israel and therefore no guilt can accrue is what has to be attacked. He, and the rest of the arab muslim cancer, cannot allow, cannot believe that anyone can rule any land that they MUST rule. There never was a palestine except for Jews. It was never ever an arab muslim land except as one without a nation,without a statehood, without any viable population, economy and was a destroyed remnant of the Jewish homeland, and nation. Only when the Jews struggled and paid 10x what the land was worth, and struggled to build a land, a nation and got it, did the jew hating muslims howl and scream that it was their’s. The preposterousness of the representative, who has the gall to state that all Jihadists are victims is drivel and should be call just that. We are not there yet. The world still calls for a two state solution which is a logical impossibility as the muslim arabs clearly mean that to be the end of Israel, once they get their chance. That is the abomination that must not be allowed to happen
mortimer says
Agree with golberg: “DISCONNECT”. Indeed, Islam is a disconnect from reality, a disconnect from history, a disconnect from morality, a disconnect from reason. Islam uses opportunism and duplicity, rather than a coherent, unitary ethical code as other religions do.
Whatever is inconsistent or incoherent is not moral. There is no consistent moral principle in the Koran.
gravenimage says
All true, mgoldberg.
Dave de la Rond says
The Dying EU ,has given $1.7 Billion to Abbas and his gang of murderers the last 3 years .Go to the Panama + see the 19 Panama Terrorist leaders listed with assets totaling &2.8Billion
mortimer says
Riyad Mansour denies that HIS AGGRESSIVE TERRORISM is terrorism, but the self-defense of Islam is what he terms ‘terrorism’.
This is a perfect example of intransigence. Anyone who doesn’t immediately surrender to Hamas is what he calls a ‘terrorist’.
This is a perfect example of Islamic thought in the Koran, those who immediately surrender to Islam in the Koran become dhimmi subjects of the Islamic empire, but those who defend themselves are considered evil.
This supremacist ideology condemns people for defending their home, family, city or country from MUSLIM INVADERS. Islam is absurd and vicious.
no_one says
Exactly.
Dawn says
So what are ones cslled that are attacked then ? Really ! What is wrong here
utis says
Keep going, Riyad. The more you repeat a lie, the more people will come to believe it. You have learned well from Uncle Adolf.
plum says
They laugh at us with contempt, sure that we, the west, will continue to send them money and support. They understand the depth and nature of Jew hatred they share with the west.
As soon as WE stop funding the jihad….because that is what it is, and begin to understand that all those dead babies are human shields,deliberately sacrificed for their Jihad, the better.
Tom says
Ah yes, the ever present victim card is played yet again for those on the left who are triggered by their sympathies for the “oppressed” people who use civilians as shields and specifically target children.
The pendulum is swinging in the west from the left to the right and with that swing will come common sense and enlightenment of the deceptions being played on those easily duped of the left wing.
Times they are achanging and with our committed efforts to do our bit by voting out appeasers and replacing them with patriots wewill see this type of garbage reduced drastically.
Dblitz says
It could be the first victim donation economy where every family has s paid martyr and you inherit the status and the west pays you
Irene Brekelmans says
I think, you first HAVE TO CUT OF THEIR FUNDING, for everything, Isis, Hamas, all those clubs and you will have to cut the funding for their mosques , it almost seems. it and not allow them to build new mosques. By now they will try to build a mosque for every Islamic person, it seems. They are saying that the members all pay for the mosques, but they lie, like usual. The fundings from all involved countries have to stop, that is the first thing you have to do. Really. Otherwise this goes wrong too.
I thank all the people who are commenting and for their excellent research of the koran. The leftists/liberals are not sleeping, they think ignorance is still bliss, but they know.
I am at loss for words ate the moment and I am not a good writer and I get so angry and emotional about it, when I am calmed down, I will put my 2 cents back in, all little bits help, I hope.
Keep the fire going pls. Thank you all.
Dennis says
Yes, I have lived with Asian Muslims. In Bangladesh for example after burning down the Buddhist temples and neighborhoods, the Buddhists did the same in revenge. I was told this by a Bangladeshi Buddhist friend who was involved. Oh how the Muslims cried and screamed about how the world was against them, that Islam is peaceful! The foreign press didn’t report, with a few exceptions what the Muslims did to receive this revenge. It played upon the evilness of the Buddhists and the innocence of the Muslims. As an ex-leftist whose eyes are now open I can’t understand the left’s betrayal to its own principles and selling out to Islam. The right is not much better!
Jeanette says
UN Agenda 2030 calls for a massive depopulation of this planet.
Why would they have a problem with Muslims helping them with that goal?
gravenimage says
Palestinian Authority’s UN top dog: Jihad terrorists who murder Americans are “victims”
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Disgusting–but no surprise.
UNCLE VLADDI says
LIBS WILL EAT THIS UP BECAUSE IT’S IN PERFECT ALIGNMENT WITH THEIR OWN “CORE VALUES” SYSTEM!
“In the Way of Allah!” is only a fancy way of saying “The way God does it!”
… and the examples given are to be found at the very start in the opening sentences of the first paragraphs of most of the chapters in the Qur’an: where it’s noted that “Allah” has destroyed all the inhabitants of those ghost-towns which were found all over Arabia, by way of sudden and random-seeming sneak-attacks, allegedly of fire from the skies, lightning strikes, tornadoes (“natural” disasters).
So to Muhammad and his minions, this “way Allah does it!” is random destructive violence, without any consequences!
These “muslim” vermin don’t seem to realize (because they were raised to never think for them selves) that Sharia isn’t a “fair legal system!” at all, simply because their precious Muhammad only made up a book of alibis to excuse his – and now, theirs, too – own criminal desires and actions!
“If it happens, then it’s good!”
That’s only “Shit Happens” pretending to be “Inshallah!”
Their “path of the Lord” (Allah) aka “In The Way of Allah!” is only the seemingly random violence of natural disasters, like sudden lightning strikes or diseases. Hence muslims are really only vermin: an infestating plague on this earth.
The Qur’an’s concept of “The Way of Allah” is only an excuse Muhammad made up to pretend to justify the consequences of his own selfish greedy extortions, tortures, slaveries, rapes (including raping innocent children) and murders!
Just look at the chapter on al-Khidr, who tells Moses “I killed that child because Allah knew that he would have turned out to be evil, so now his parents will make a better child! And I ruined that guys’ property, because if I hadn’t, then some evil man would have commandeered it and made use of it to cause even more trouble in the land! Best that he doesn’t have any property at all, lest some evil people steal it from him and use it against him and innocent others!”
My committing my crimes really only helped prevent even worse crimes in the future! It can always get worse, and only allah knows best! Besides, I didn’t really do it: the allah made me do it! And in fact I didn’t do it at all – only the allah did it! Allah is indivisible and is behind every action, both the good and the bad, every time! So the only real crime is to deny this fact and to pretend one has a free-will choice, implying one sets one’s self above allah’s will!
In other words, no matter what crime Muhammad and his holy-mobster gang of criminal “muslims” commit, it’s always justified because, since they managed to commit it, therefore their perfect, indivisible “allah” must have MEANT for them to succeed, and therefore NONE of their crimes were ever really crimes at all!
It’s the way the crime-lord Muhammad pretended to “justify” his random acts of violent crime: no matter what he did, he didnt’ have to worry about the consequences, because ‘Allah’ (who made Moe commit all of his acts in the first place) had already pre-planned them to achieve the best results! It didn’t matter that Moe knew not, because as he says else wherein the Qur’an: “The good and the bad both come from allah! Only allah knows, you do not know!”
SO: no muslim has to think at all, much less about the impact his crimes might have on his victims or even on his own families, if said victims decide to retaliate in kind!
Why can’t these ineffable twits see how sick and evil that all is?!
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LIBERALS ‘think’ (avoid thinking entirely) in a similar manner: Since we can never understand ALL cause and effects, we shouldn’t even try to understand ANY of them; all ‘facts’ are really only opnions anyway! And there is no such thing as ‘free-will’ or choice, because our every choice was caused by something else long ago, beyond our understanding of it.
So the only crime is for you to call other victims “criminals” just for their having committed some “crimes” (aka mistaken accidents) against you!
So, as helpless victims, we are always oppressed by those who pretend we have choices, and who insist on offending us by calling us feelings-hurting names like “criminals!”
And so also, in reality, only those nasty hateful bigoted racists are the real criminals, and as only their perpetual oppression is responsible for our permanent state of victimhood, so it is that for us to achieve the ends of ending them, all the otherwise “criminal” means in the world are justified for us! Whee!
david busnick says
IMO; Muslim,s are the first victims of the Koran, when a Muslim obeys the Koran and kills an infidel the infidel becomes a secondary victim. When you have a diseased tree cutting the limbs off will do nothing to fix the problem of the diseased tree, you have to remove tree roots and all to fix the problem. The Koran is the disease in the tree, to fix the problem you have to ban the Koran, as Prime minister William Gladstone said “The Koran is an accursed book while there is this book there will never be any peace in the world”. How prophetic.
rabrooks says
Why is it that, when made plain, this logic is still seen as acceptable? However to defend one self/life/property/territory from a premeditated attack is considered “islamophobic”……..