Why are police investigating? This is not a law enforcement issue, this is a plumbing issue. Would police be investigating if two copies of, say, The Conscience of a Conservative or The Art of the Deal were found in a toilet at the University of Texas at Dallas? Of course not. Some unfortunate university employee would be tasked with fishing them out, and that would be that. But desecrating the Qur’an is a crime — not in federal law or Texas law, but in Islamic law. Why are police enforcing Sharia in what is supposed to be still a free country?
“Investigation After Copies Of Quran Discovered In UT Dallas Toilet,” CBDDFW.com, April 13, 2017:
DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – Police at the University of Texas at Dallas (UT Dallas) are investigating how two copies of a holy book ended up in a toilet on the campus….
UT Dallas Police Chief Larry Zacharias said, “We’re still reviewing video to see if we can get people identified.”
But Chief Zacharias also said that surveillance video has given them some new insight in the investigation. “We originally suspected these Qurans may have come out of the Reflection Room, which is on the first floor of the Student Union,” he said. “We’ve watched video in this timeframe and only two people went into that Reflection Room — both went in empty-handed and both came out empty-handed.”…
Many at UT Dallas say the campus is inclusive and welcoming, so the discovery has left many in shock. Zacharias said, “We constantly ask all of our students, from all backgrounds, do they feel safe on campus? And [the answer] is always yes.”
Police said no one has come forward to claim the Qurans as their property; so no compliant has been filed and that without a complaint the incident can’t be called a crime.
Koose E Mack says
I guess some students just wanted some good reading material while they were taking a Shiite?
DRHazard says
Holy shiite!
Brenda Romano says
They didn’t have any cartoons.
Havoc says
Investigate why they couldn’t fit more than two Korans in the potty? More should fit quite easily.
La La says
I agree, the Quran is filth and diserves to be flushed.
epistemology says
The innocent loo would be utterly congested with more than two Korans. But as Robert said leave the problem to the plumbers, they’re in charge. Merry Koran flushing everybody!
old white guy says
we need a giant septic tank, one big enough for all the korans in the world.
Frank says
I just got the urge to pee.
Libby says
Waste of money, but they know that already. Ridiculous!
JOHNNIEMAC says
Best place for them, flush now!
Mak says
I think flushing them wouldn’t work. My suggestion is to leave them on the toilet tank with a sign that says “toilet paper.” You are far less likely to cause damage to the pipes if you flush each page at a time. And why waste the paper? It’s good for wiping.
There is no law broken here and this is a waste of taxpayer money.
Aloha Akbar says
“And why waste the paper? It’s good for wiping.”
How could you say such a thing????
That stuff will give you ass-burn.
Charles says
This is deeply disturbing. Im a. Texan and I’m so disheartened to read that sheriff Zacharias is actually investigating this? Nonesense, ridiculous, waste of manpower and funds. Would you sheriff Z. do the same if it were a christian bible? I’ll bet your office would not have been called. Big disappointment sheriff. And you too U.T.D. PC crap.
Marty says
We can be confident that police in tehran would investigate an incident involving copies of the Bible. Oh, wait, the Bible is banned in iran.
Mike says
They most certainly would, to figure out where the bibles came from!
Dave says
If they had found versions of the King James Bible in the toilets, would they be investigating it as a hate crime? If they would not then they’re showing a preference for one religion over another which is unconstitutional.
utis says
The preferential treatment is certainly disturbing, as well as nauseating. In America, all gods should be subject to criticism where merited. Humor, even lousy humor, is sub-category of expression. Are we free, or are we the United States of Sharia in waiting?
But there’s another important point here: where did these surveillance videos come from? Does UTex film people in the johns? It may be an extreme conjecture, but, once you can’t trust people, where can you start trusting them?
Mak says
If this happened on Sweden they probably would start adding cameras in the toilet stall. We can’t dare be insensitive to a group that has pledged our own destruction. (Sarcasm)
Eddie says
We have a similar problem in Britain – removing Christian symbols and even suggesting change of names for Christian holidays. But it is unacceptable to criticise Islam, even when Islamic schools are teaching hatred of our society and telling pupils they are superior to non-Muslims.
Mike says
The only way to find out is to start randomly dropping religious books in toilets, and see what the outcome is in various cases. We could drop in the Communist Manifesto as a control.
The only real problem I see is that the toilets are being needless clogged. Hence, leaving them handing by the side with a mention re: toilet paper is probably less likely to lead to some sort of “mischief” charge, which would be understandable from a plumbing PoV.
Beagle says
Without any evidence of the identity of who did this, I will bet a hundred bucks this is yet another incident faked by a Muslim or leftist. At least 90% of these so-called ‘hate crimes’ (often not actual crimes) are false flags trying to make critics of Islam, conservatives, Republicans, or Trump supporters look bad. While I acknowledge I have no idea in reality, I think the odds are in my favor.
overman says
l was thinking the same thing.
gravenimage says
That is also quite possible, Beagle.
I would like to know who reported it to the police–a Muslim, or some dhimmi tool?
If the former, this is almost certainly a fake “hate crime”.
Oliver says
It could (my guess) a student reported to the janitor that there were some books in the toilet, and would not go down the drain when he tried to flush.
Oliver says
And that would have been before he empties his (or her) orifices.
boakai ngombu says
one clue: a male did this (maybe) … left the seat up
gravenimage says
Yes, Oliver, but who reported it to the police? I worked as a custodian at the International House to defer expenses when I was a student at university. I would not have alerted police if someone tossed a couple of books in the toilet.
I would have just put on a pair of gloves and fished them out and put them in a trash bag. Job done.
Someone somewhere along the line decided to notify the police.
ermom says
Hmmm, let’s see. It’s ok to BURN OUR FLAG, which many have given their lives for, so we can have FREEDOM OF SPEECH, and if those books were Bibles, wouldn’t be a problem. But the IDEA of DESECRATING Qur’ans, requires police action? There’s NOTHING in our Constitution and Bill of Rights REQUIRING us to commit NATIONAL SUICIDE, by caving to any TOTALITARIAN POLITICAL IDEOLOGY, not communism, socialism (which’s end goal is communism), fascism, nor Sharia (Islamism). Have you read the Qur’an? I have. As well as many of the hadith, sira, and Islamic commentaries, rulings from Al Azhar. Disgusting, perversion! Islam is the photo-negative of Christianity. Islam codifies oppression of women, gays, Jews, Christians & other infidels, rape, slavery, lying, theft, extortion (jizya), militant expansionism, pedophilia, murder, torture, war mongering, etc..
So, if one wishes to see books filled with hate speech, just go to the Qur’an and the Sunnah of Mohammed.
Muslims, Islam SHOULD be insulted, and while I feel sorry for you, living under oppression and fear, get used to it. Study for yourselves as I have. Learn how evil, Mohammed was, and THINK FOR YOURSELVES: “I’m supposed to follow and emulate such an evil man who committed all the above listed crimes?” YOU’VE BEEN LIED TO FOR 1400 YEARS, by your imams, leaders and scholars. Reality is we Christians have been insulted, etc., since the beginning. We don’t kill, because someone puts our Cross in urine. Indeed, our own armed svcs. BURNED BIBLES. Enough of any special treatment!
John says
My brother in-law works there. He’s conservative and likely too busy to hunt down such a work of fiction and destroy it.
Oliver says
Is Dallas one of the Texas sanctuary cities? Is the UT in Dallas a sanctuary college?
AND TEXAS WENT BIG FOR TRUMP.
And the governor is a conservative.
Wtf is going on here?
gravenimage says
You find dhimmitude even in res states now…
Benedict says
The link beneath could be relevant in this connexion:
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2010/09/defecation-torah-new-testament
DRHazard says
Good article, Thanks for the link. Just more proof of the double standard Muslims and their Western supporters hold. I guarantee that absolutely no one in the public sphere would even bring this up, much less have a reasoned debate about the slow death of free speech over some fool’s patronizing efforts to protect Muslims and their feelings.
Jeff Jones says
What the Hell is wrong with the police are they kidding. What are they going to do if they catch the guilty party…Behead them, stone them for blasphemy?
Blurb1000 says
Robert! “Why are police investigating?”
Obvious: It is a deep insult to the toilet.
Brenda Romano says
good come back.
overman says
Although, it is the best place for them.
Leon Degney says
They were in their proper place, they are just shitty books.
mortimer says
Due to the separation of church and state, there is NO ESTABLISHMENT OF RELGION in the US.
Flushing a sacred text is not a thought crime or blasphemy crime! It’s rude. It’s legal to be rude.
Unless Islam becomes the ESTABLISHED RELIGION of the US, there is no way for the Supreme Court to punish blasphemy.
Period.
Oliver says
Mortimer, you are TALKING (OR WRITING) COMMON SENSE.
HOWEVER, THE COURTS NO LONGER USE THAT.
Proof- Trump’s TEMPORARY travel ban- to vet people. (What is it- 4 courts or so-one with a Bush appointee, others-all others-I think-Obama appointees). AND PEOPLE APPLAUD THE DECISIONS.
They are either insane, or stupid or in denial or just assholes. (Personally, I think the 4th, with the 2nd close by)
Brenda Romano says
Sxxxxy material finally ended in the correct place.
afrostreetwise says
Want to know how they ended in the toilet? investigate among the muslims. And the motive was merely to make a stink.
Frank Verderber says
Ecactly. The Quran should have hung on the paper roll like a Montgomery Ward cstalog.
PRCS says
“make a stink”
Heh, heh.
somehistory says
The real *reason* this was investigated is in the article. The police originally thought the unholy copies of the unholy book “may have come out of the Reflection Room, which is on the first floor of the Student Union,”
This, if it had been proven to be true, would have been destruction of property that belonged to the University of Texas. As it was shown not to be the case, as the article says, “it is not a crime” because no one is saying the unholy books belonged to them.
The *owner* of the unholy books evidently put them there or allowed someone else to dispose of them as they *saw fit*…
If they had been flushed, it would have been a possible case of vandalism of the plumbing system.
Aloha Akbar says
Good point.
dumbledoresarmy says
Agreed.
Suppose the books had been copies of “Mein Kampf”. Or copies of “Fifty Shades of Grey”.
It would still – however much people might think that such books ‘belong in a toilet’ – qualify as potential vandalism of the plumbing system, causing expensive nuisance for the cleaners and/ or the plumber. (This would apply even if the books were the property of the person who put them there).
And if they were not the property of the person who did the placement, but books snitched from a library, or pinched by a student from another student’s room, it would be petty theft and vandalism.
gravenimage says
somehistory wrote:
The real *reason* this was investigated is in the article. The police originally thought the unholy copies of the unholy book “may have come out of the Reflection Room, which is on the first floor of the Student Union”
……………………
Somehistory, if this was being regarded as just a simple potential property crime involving items of such low worth, I doubt that the university would have gone to the trouble of bringing in outside police, rather than having the campus force look into it.
When I was at UC Berkeley, City of Berkeley police were only brought in for the most serious crimes.
somehistory says
g,
I lived in Texas and was very familiar with the UT and how they operated. It is not unusual for that university to call the local PD.
And, if it was done by a moslim student who wanted to cause a ruckus, that student would likely call the PD.
Do you recall some time back that the moslim student (enrolled at UTA) called the PD when claiming that she was followed about the campus….and Arlington PD investigated and found that she was lying?
gravenimage says
And, if it was done by a moslim student who wanted to cause a ruckus, that student would likely call the PD.
………………
Definitely agree, somehistory.
JawsV says
Where they belong.
Guest says
I have a feeling someone is trying to send a message
Francis Merde says
They must’ve run out of toilet paper. This is the only kind that I use.
https://i0.wp.com/www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/koran_klopapier2.jpg?resize=640%2C788
Omi-san says
Whoever did this is a idiot. How are we supposed to wipe with wet pages?
no_one says
I would not use that dirty thing to wipe any part of my body. T*rd belongs to the toilet.
Rick says
I thought that’s where shiiiiiittttt went?????
Bsrat says
I guess someone realised they were reading a pile of sh***t. No surprise there.
no_one says
These rightfully belong in the toilet.
Ade says
Bible or Torah in the loo ? .. no problem
Monty says
This is what is going on, written nearly 2,000 years ago: “Then that lawless one will be revealed whom the Lord will slay with the breath of His mouth and bring to an end by the appearance of His coming; that is, the one whose coming is in accord with the activity of Satan, with all power and signs and false wonders, and with all the deception of wickedness for those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness.” Lawlessness has been increasing for decades. The rise of Islam has coincided with the rise of lawlessness. Those who reject the truth do not stay neutral. They accept lies as truth, that is why it is so hard to get the anti-Islam message through.
Libby says
Oh my very days!?! That is thee biggest pile of shit that I’ve heard yet – get a grip on reality you fools.
TL says
It would be better to drop your copy of the Koran into a septic tank or the chamber beneath an outhouse. It can’t clog your pipes there, and the communist militias of the modern university are not likely to have your septic tank or outhouse within one of their jurisdictions.
Keys says
What are the police going to charge them with if they find them?
Oliver says
Keys–I guess the charge would be VANDALISM OR ATTEMPTED VANDALISM–CLOGGING THE TOILET AND HAVING IT OVERFLOW. And possibly fine the guilty person (or persons) what overtime for the janitors would have been.
By the way- AN IMPORTANT PC QUESTION:
WAS IT THE MEN’S BATHROOM; THE WOMEN’S BATHROOM; FAMILY BATHROOM; OR ONE FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNSURE WHAT GENDER THEY ARE?
i am sure that the PC police aka lefty asshole rioters will want to know, so they will know how to proceed with their next anti-Trump rally. (And blame him, Jews, The Bush family, etc).
gravenimage says
Sharia in Dallas: Police investigating how two copies of Qur’an ended up in university toilet
…………………………..
Who gives a crap how it happened? If I were to dump a couple of Bibles in a public toilet–something I would not personally do, but I am making a point–no one would much care. It might get a “tsk tsk” as the janitor was fishing them out of the bowl, but that would be the extent of it.
The idea that this is a police matter is ludicrous. What would the charge be? Potentially clogging a public toilet?
sog says
Jeezum-crow… Everybody’s a critic. The flusher probably doesn’t like that the Koran is full of pithy comments… a couple of my favorites is
“…strike their necks where ever you find them…”
“…Allah has cursed the disbelievers and prepared for them a Blaze.”
My favorite is that Moslem men should have their wives and daughters cover themselves with their outer garments so that “… It is known that they are not to be abused …”
You can’t make this stuff up. The Koran is well worth a Read-through, if for nothing else, but for the tragic comedy. It’s forehead slapping hilarious that a billion people can be marginalized under this nonsense.
Aloha Akbar says
Mustapha crap
Aloha Akbar says
” no compliant has been filed and that without a complaint the incident can’t be called a crime.”
Just give it time, someone will file a complaint.
David says
Where is the near it’s toilet? Putting a book in a toilet is not a crime!
annmarie says
The question is, why are the police responding.
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
If I get another copy, I’m making sure it finds it’s way in there now. This is ridiculous.
Dum Spiro says
Made me think of this:
Hate Crime vs. Art
https://islamblog2012.wordpress.com/cartoons/
Title of cartoon: Hate Crime Cartoon#__7__
What action is taking place in the cartoon?
This cartoonist is saying that the Islamic people call it a hate crime when people defile their book of scripture, but when people to the same thing to the Bible it is not to be taken as offensive, it is considered art. The Muslim people are more likely to take offense and retaliate.
You can see the double standard quite easily…
— Spero
Tony says
Do we care if it is in the toilet or in a trough that pigs eat from?
tknightfield says
This smells like a manufactured case of phony baloney “Islamophobia” so the usual suspects can play the victim….again!
Millard Stanford Brown Bunson says
option 1: it was an experiment on Literature and the Coriolis effect. After flushing, can you read Arabic from right to left?
option 2: it was performance art.
option 3: pocket size does mean something else in Arabic and they slipped out of a back pocket when someone was standing back up and tucking in their shirt.
option 4: the trash cans were full and it would have been disrespectful to leave them on the floor.
option 5: maybe they can find the ‘water mark’ from the printer, find which store sold them, get the tapes from the store or the ATM across the street, send it to the NSA, get the FBI involved and then find and arrest somebody for throwing a couple of books in the toilet.
Guest says
Why should the cops care?
Brian Branch says
Not a fan of the books. However the police would have originally investigated believing the books were library property, which destruction of library property is a crime, just as somebody damaging your property is a joke. That would have been the basis of the police investigation, not some PCing.
gravenimage says
Brian, I really doubt that the Dallas police would have been brought in if it had been a couple of copies of Catcher in the Rye swiped from the library.
davej says
Exactly what makes the Koran a special case? Deserving of police action?
You have got to be kidding me, except I know you’re not, they are actually doing this.
Special treatment for Muslim complaints is the creeping edge of Sharia.
JDow says
Well, if it caused some real physical damage then the person responsible should be ordered to pay for the repair, the cost of the Qur’ans if he didn’t own then himself, and the police time involved. It sure isn’t a cause to go any farther than that. It is only a book. It is easily replicated. If the person who did this owned the Qur’ans involved. Anything else has the law believing in “magic”, which would be a giant leap into the non-secular world.
{^_^}
R Russell says
Clearly the Police in Dallas have too much time on their hands.
DFD says
“…Police at the University of Texas at Dallas (UT Dallas) are investigating how two copies of a holy book ended up in a toilet on the campus….”
WOTT!?! No swat team? The uni hadn’t been sealed off? No helicopter gunships circling the uni compound? And no witch, sorry, islamophobe burning?
What is Texas coming to?
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gravenimage says
Hilarious, DFD.
FYI says
Maybe it was that mischevious,violently anti-Semitic version of the angel Gabriel,jibreel.
You know the one that,disguised as an angel of light,gave muhammed his koran….
“Hi,i’m the angel jibreel moroni.Here’s an exciting new text….any questions? …polygamy?child brides?murdering innocent infidels…..sure,it’s OK to break ALL God’s commandments..knock yourself out!…but please don’t tell Almighty God about this..you can say it was the angel Gabriel ..or blame the Jews.See ya in hell…oh I mean paradise….”
Mouk1 says
Allah moves in mysterious ways!
May Allah (he/she be praised) continue to rid us of these god forsaken books !!
Creole Gumbo says
Why not create a national movement of placing korans into public toilets whenever possible? That way we can overwhelm the police departments with investigations and maybe they can rethink their priorities.
Just a thought.
Creole Gumbo says
Why not create a national movement of placing korans into public toilets whenever possible? That way we can overwhelm the police departments with investigations and maybe they can rethink their priorities.
William Boggs says
Somewhat creative, it would have been much better of they had put a couple of pounds of bacon on them or used srips of baccon as bookmarks on those pages about hacking heads off. Another fine demonstration would have been to take a dump on them.
But can’t think of a better place fr them.
Tony says
What is the difference between taking a dump on the books and taking a dump. Answer: the book itself is the dump.
John A. Marre says
The police are now commonly called to enforce political correctness. This gives them less time to investigate assaults, rapes, thefts and murders.
The police should never be called for this, but it’s too late to stop it.
Henry jones says
Wait, no complaint filed so.it’s not a crime…then why are they investigating? Someone told them about it, obvoulsy. Plus if bibles or Jewish scrolls were in the toilet, would they investigate? I think not.
Oliver says
Mr. Jones, some years ago (I forgot the city and state, but THINK it was New York City- but would not bet on it).
Somebody found A TORAH SCROLL, in a dumpster. (Going by memory, i think it was either a homeless person, or an employee of the firm or store that had the dumpster- but not sure of that, either).
THE POLICE DID INVESTIGATE- AND THEY CALLED EVERY SYNAGOGUE WITHIN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MILES, and found where it was stolen from.
The police then tried to find the thief- although I don’t recall if that was successful.
Henry Jones says
Oliver,
Thank you for the information. I vaguely remember this case…. I think. Or perhaps Im getting my facts messed up. I remember scrolls being stolen / missing from a Synagogue.
I would think that a little different as that was the only copy that Synagogue had, if memory serves, and that’s why it was abig deal. In the Quran case, they are just copies – nothing solely unique about them.
But I could be way off base.
Also, with all due respect, if you and I are thinking the same case, that was decades ago – well before this “muslims- and- blacks- get- a- free- pass-, all- whites -are- racist-whites-cannot-be-victims- politically correct culture we live in now.
Carolyne says
I would like to know which statute prohibits putting a Koran in a toilet. I always believe in putting things in their proper place.
Steve says
Everybody send an email to the University of Dallas PD and demand answers!
Geppetto says
“…….. without a complaint the incident can’t be called a crime.”
And what would that crime be?
Jeanette says
Non Muslims TaxVictims should get off their derrieres and raise hell about this.
Vic says
Liberal logic 101: Quran in the toilet is a Hate Crime. Bible in the toilet is Art.
ShandyLover says
University of Dallas PD is clearly the place to work. Obviously nothing else to do there but make work for themselves.
No robberies or thefts. No accusations of sexual assault. No gun crime. Not even an incidence of jay-walking. Nothing to do but investigate who dumped a couple of works of fiction down the pan.
They are indeed most fortunate. I wonder if the University of Dallas PD would be so keen to fritter away tax-dollars like this if the books were a couple of copies of the Bible.
Call me cynical but somehow I doubt it.
DeplorableDredd says
Its not a crime even if someone did officially report it to the police. Pay attention to the fact that these were ‘university cops’, not actual city police. It goes without saying that the local police dept would ignore this nonsense and they would probably tell off whoever tried making this into big issue.
Apparently the university ‘police’ really dont anything better to do with their time. What a boring job.
Dick B. says
Could also have been placed there by a Muslim in an attempt to demonstrate islamophobia. It’s not an uncommon occurrence.
gravenimage says
True, Dick. Could be another fake “hate crime”.
Mark Young says
This was faked. No one ripped out pages and wiped.
Besides where was the police when curifix was put in a jar of urine as art? Maybe this is art too?
Tony says
The police in Dallas must have a lot of time to do nothing but take pictures of toilets. What happen to the pictures of condoms in the toilet?
Susette says
This is freedom of speech in action.
But, if they do uncover the “perpetrator” most likely it will be a moslem…then let’s see if they report it.