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Syria: Sunni Muslims murder 126 people, wound 55 in bomb attack targeting Shi’ite evacuees

Apr 16, 2017 2:26 pm By Robert Spencer

The Sunni-Shia jihad kills far more people than “Islamophobia.” Yet which gets more attention from the UN and “human rights” organizations?

“Syria: 126 killed as bomb hits buses with evacuees, group says,” by Jason Hanna, Salma Abdelaziz and Eyad Kourdi, CNN, April 16, 2017:

(CNN)The death toll from a bomb attack targeting evacuees leaving besieged Syrian towns has risen to 126, a monitoring group said Sunday.

The blast hit a convoy of buses Saturday, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which reported the higher death toll.

The blast struck buses of people leaving their towns as part of a rebel-regime swap.

At least 109 of those killed were evacuees from the pro-regime Shia villages of Al-Fu’ah and Kafraya while the rest were aid workers and rebels guarding the convoy, according to the Syrian Observatory.

At least 68 children were among those killed in the attack on Saturday.

In addition to the deaths, it also injured 55 others in Rashidin, a suburb of Aleppo, according to Syria Civil Defense, also known as the White Helmets

The convoy of buses, which were parked at the time, was carrying thousands of people from two regime-held but rebel-besieged villages in northwestern Syria, state-run media reported.

People were evacuating two rebel-held towns in southwest Syria at the same time under a so-called Four Towns Agreement.

Video shown on state television showed charred buses parked on the side of a road. People walked outside the buses, surveying the damage as well as bodies lying on the roadway and a grass median.

The state-run Syrian Arab News Agency reported the convoy continued, and the first buses arrived late Saturday in Aleppo. The buses headed to the Jebrin area for a temporary housing center equipped with food and medical supplies, SANA said.

No group has claimed responsibility.

During a televised interview, Rami Abdul Rahman, director of the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, said a suicide bomber claimed he was carrying food items and blew himself up in a fuel station….

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  1. IQ al Rassooli says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    Every Muslim is a potential Mass Murderer the instant he/ she decides that he/she is NOT Sharia compliant enough. (Not ALL Muslims are Terrorists but 100% of Terrorists against Infidels – and other different sects of Islam – are MUSLIMS)

    Every Muslim is therefore a hair trigger Time Bomb primed to go off

    Only in the WARPED imagination of leftists and Muslim apologists can one find Moderate Militant Radical or Extremist Muslims because in reality Muslims are Muslims just as Nazis are Nazis and no one ever addressed Nazis as Moderate Militant Radical or Extremist

    All other explanations are superfluous and redundant after watching the attached video~

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTuFA1fQ-yg&feature=youtu.be&a

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!
    http://www.alrassooli.com

    • Michael says

      Apr 16, 2017 at 4:06 pm

      IQ, that’s an excellent point on ‘moderate Nazis.’

      Perhaps that would be a good question to ask people when they bring up ‘moderate Muslims’: ‘Do you recall there being moderate Nazis? Were Nazis divided by moderate and radical?’

      Most people won’t immediately get the connection. I would suspect they would go what do Nazis have to do with Muslims? Because we are taught that Islam is the religion of peace, with a few scattered individuals here and there wreaking havoc.

      And then … perhaps a discussion can follow that brings some light to that particular darkness.

      Sometimes questions can be the most powerful way to wake up another mind, or to crack it open. I imagine people would be highly offended — ‘what the hell do Nazis have to do with Muslims?’ And they might not hear a word that follows. But something inside may have cracked open. It might be for the first time that anyone has ever suggested — whom they know — that Nazis and Muslims have anything in common.

      This is a word game, with very high stakes. What words, what questions, penetrate minds with walls up?

      I appreciate the link to the video, IQ. I have it to watch later today.

      • IQ al Rassooli says

        Apr 16, 2017 at 4:20 pm

        Thanks Michael

        I hope you will enjoy the video

        If one Googles Quran & Mein Kampf one will get

        In The Name Of Allah – Quran & Mein Kampf

        All one needs to do is READ the FACTS

        Der Mohammad’s Quran preceded Der Fuhrer’s Mein Kampf by 1400 years BUT they are otherwise IDENTICAL

        Any challengers?

        IQ al Rassooli
        Kafir & Proud!

        • Michael says

          Apr 16, 2017 at 4:23 pm

          IQ, thanks for the suggested search. I have the results up, and will read those, as well. Much for me to learn. I appreciate all that you share.

        • DFD says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 6:25 am

          To IQ al Rassooli:

          Obviously you never read Mein Kampf. They are ***definitely not identical***, not one bit. Both contain a lot of anti-Semitic tirades, the Quran even more than Mein Kampf. Go to Dr. Bill Warner’s website for a statistical, exact and true comparison.

          Why helping the enemy by spreading deliberately false information to others? All you will achieve is to put those off of our blog who have a political education. Such a person finding its way ontyo JW and reading such… will think: “Good grieve! These guys (that’s us) casn’t even differentiate between a sandal and ski. Good bye.” There Mein Kampf is as mandatory and part of the curriculum in politics as is “The Wealth of Nations”, “Das Kapital” and “The Rise and Fall of (great) Powers”.

          The ‘FACTS’ are completely, utterly different. If you were to read both books you would realize that immediately – if you wanted to that is. Note this well, all that Islam & Nazism, or, the Koran & Mein Kampf have in common is anti-Semitism, and nothing else.

          WHY DO I SAY THIS?
          =================.

          Assumed you are genuine, note this. Tsun (the well know and often quoted military thinker and historian) stated that you have to identify the enemy correctly, otherwise you wont have a chance.

          Try to comprehend this, and all you have to do is read: The assault by Islam is supported and promoted by the entire left! From mildly left to Anarchist, have ever noticed that? Anybody who is opposing Islam is immediately smeared with the term ‘Nazi’, have you ever noticed that? Practically the entire right is, from conservative to ultra-right/Nazi movements, are fighting, often physically, against Muslims and Islam; have you ever noticed that? Why adding and abetting the enemy with, what is for practical purposes, outright taqiya?

          If you are genuine indeed, here is a listing of the actual differences between Islam, Nazism and Bolshevism. And it is very significant indeed, and these are just the primaries, without additional details.

          The difference between Fascism and Bolshevism, and thus their relation to Islam:
          ==============================================================

          ……Fascism, and its close ‘sibling’ Nazism:
          ———————————————————-

          – Religious tolerance: Essentially ignores and tolerates religion. As long is these stay out of politics. An example: An Iranian diplomat helped repeatedly Jews to escape from the Nazis; once a group was caught. He intervened, stating that these were not Jews, but merely followed the Judaic faith. The Nazis excepted that as ‘adherents to the Mosaic religion’ and that was that. They passed.

          – Race: Nazism, highly racist. Fascism, racist to an extent. Both are either largely or completely hostile to competing political ideologies or parties.

          – Individualism: Both, fascism and Nazism have, by and large or essentially, no problem with that. On the contrary. You want to be an hermit? OK. You want to get filthy rich, own 50 companies? OK, just make sure you pay at least the minimum wage to your workers. You invent something? OK, patent is yours, and the resultant royalties.

          – Ideologies, other than: You have ideological ideas? Be careful that they aren’t on collision course with the given ideology. If they are not, you can even become a healer by rain dancing – though you might be ridiculed.

          – Family: Extremely family friendly, good education, fostering communal activities. Highly protective of the basic family unit. The family unit, husband and wife, is viewed and treasured as a corner stone, as the foundation of the state. Very tolerant of local or tribal traditions. Leder-hosen, Kilts, ten-gallon hats, whatever.

          – Race – Persecution: Racially, if within their territory. That’s the bad, very bad bid. And the, unacceptable, millstone around the neck of that ideology. And its primary, fundamental tumbling block.

          – Fascism, Nazism and Islam: They admire the social control exerted by Islam over its followers. Though much, if not most, of Islam is off-putting to individual Fascists and Nazis.

          – Summary: By and large, apart from racial questions, you can do and be whatever you want. Oddly enough, even for the racial ‘thing’ there are exceptions. Rituals: Minute, but lots of fanfare, attendance to rallies is often, more or less, mandatory. Though, not stringently enforced. Note: Rituals do however play a significant role for elite members of the hierarchy. Strict membership requirement, party etc., to an extent. For instance, Paula Hitler, Adolf’s sister, was not even a member of the NSDAP. She described herself as a patriotic German, but uninterested in politics. After the war she was arrested, and released within a few days…

          …….Bolshevism (& Islam):
          ———————————–

          – Religious tolerance: ***None!*** Totally intolerant of any religion! Wear a cross around your neck and you have free residency in a Gulag. No religion is tolerated, since it could be a competing ideology. Same as in Islam.

          – Race: Outwardly no racism. Though the ethnicity of the ruling group is definitely preferred. The ‘legal’ caliph has to be a member of the Quraish (Mohammed’s tribe, thriving in SA.) Incidentally, the ISIS caliph *IS* a member of the Quraish.

          – Individualism: Between dangerous and highly problematic. Individual achievements are tolerated only within the ideological boundary. Essentially as in Islam. That’s why communists, anarchists and Muslims are so ‘under-represented’ in Nobel prices.

          – Ideologies, other than: Yes and no. If it is within the general frame work of Marxism (and Maoism) it is accepted. Unless it interferes with the interests, or even well being, of the current rulers. In Islam that is to a very minute extent the same, however, depending upon ‘some ones’ views, any divergence can get you killed.

          – Family: Bolshevism, tolerant of family, good education, but preferring and fostering communal activities. The basic family unit is viewed upon with a certain degree of suspicion. Intolerant of local traditions. Islam: Family unit as such does not exist in Islam, only male domination. Islam: Extremely intolerant of any tradition, other than its own.

          – Race & Racial Persecution: Essentially non-existent. Unless certain groups ally with opposing ideologies. For instance, most or many of the Cossacks allied with Germany in WW2, because the Nazis were tolerant of religion and the Cossacks are very much Christian. Stalin’s retribution was horrible. If there would not have been Cossacks on the Soviet side too, Stalin would have exterminated them all. Islam: Massive slavery of blacks, Mohammed referred to north-eastern Africans (Kenya!) as “raisin heads”. Dowry requirements for fair skinned girls is minute, for light skinned girls it is non-existent. Conversely, the darker the skin color, the higher the dowry to be paid.

          – Bolshevism and Islam: Both aspire and seek to control the individual down to the minutest detail and ritual. Zero tolerance towards anybody and anything that is not part of the creed. Violent (re)action to or against any deviance.

          …..Summary:

          The fundamental difference between Bolshevism and Islam (both in whatever form) is that one is atheistic, that is to say personal enemies of Allah and his messenger, whilst the other is theistic, or rather purports to be. (Actually it seems to be rather Satanistic) Both rely heavily on rituals, attendance to which is mandatory and, in Islam, stringently enforced. In an Islamic state non-attendance to prayer or not fasting can and will get you killed. That state does not have to be 100% Islamic. In Bolshevist society non-attendance to rituals, of whatever form, can and does result in social disadvantages. repeated failure results in unofficial sanctions and punishments. Likewise, in Bolshevism party membership is not mandatory whereas in Islam you are born into the party, and leaving it carries a death sentence.

          …..Common in all three:

          Racism is a partial to rampant affair. In Islam for instance, Pakistan etc., the dowry for a light colored girl is minute, if required at all. For a dark skinned girl it’s astronomical. Hatred between races, Islam, Arab hates or despises Persian and vice versa, same with Turks. And of course, Berbers. Arabs hold Pakistanis and Indians in the utmost contempt. Extreme hatred towards Jews, even though they are racially homogeneous with Arabs. Conversely, Nazis are extremely racist – if convenient.

          The ones coming out clean in this respect are actually the commies. But by and large, in attitude and practice, the commies and the Muslims are very close. Hence the extreme mutual support between these two groups. As you can see, Antifa, Soros, The Left, etc. etc.

        • Jeanette says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 7:30 pm

          Well, they certainly had at least a few things in common.

          They both hate/hated Jews; both burn/burned people alive; both approve/approved of using children in breeding programs; both feel/felt that only their superior people should be allowed to live.

          And there is some information around that says that Muslims were of some help to the Nazis during WWII. Possibly because they had so much in common?

        • Michael says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 7:34 pm

          Jeanette, I read the other day — maybe on this site; it took me to a link about this — that Mein Kampf appeared to have a great similarity to the Koran. verses more or less transplanted from the Koran to Mein Kampf. Terror, in particular. I haven’t read the Mein Kampf. I never have really wanted to. But then I never really wanted to read the Koran. and with Robert’s help, and others, I’m learning, and glad for it. Lots to go. and making progress.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 7:49 pm

          Dear DFD, I’m afraid your view of Fascism as benign except for its racial component does not bear out.

          Besides its racism, Fascism was a brutal, totalitarian creed.

          It was also collectivist–the idea that Nazism respected the rights of the individual is not the case. Those who dared criticize Hitler were often imprisoned and sometimes murdered. There was no freedom of speech under the Nazis.

          And the Fascists were not exactly family-friendly, urging children to turn in their parents if they were critical of the Nazis.

          The Jews and other racial minorities such as Gypsies suffered greatly under the Nazis, but so did journalists, writers, artists, and any free thinkers.

          The Nazis burned books and art.

          The Nazis conquered much of Europe, and savagely persecuted anyone who opposed their reign of terror.

        • Oliver says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 9:11 pm

          Graven- what is not generally known (I myself found this out just a few years ago)- ( there were few – compared to today- blacks in Europe- and somewhere between almost none and very, very few if any in Eastern Europe).

          Hitler also murdered several thousands (if not more ) BLACKS. (Negroes when I was younger).

          In addition to Jews, Gypsies; homosexuals; handicapped people; those who dared to disagree with him, etc.

        • DFD says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 1:50 pm

          To IQ al Rassooli
          =============.

          I think of joining your side. Being democratically minded, that is being anti-Muslim and anti-Anarchist/Bolshevist is obviously hopeless. Fantastic, now I have an incling why Antifa, Soros, etc. are so successful. Or rather, why the general public is so easily duped by the MSM.

          I must compliment you, it’s brilliant. You proclaim something hilarious, something completely wrong and deceitful. Namely that the Koran and mein kampf are identical, and proclaim that to be a ***fact***. Thus pointing people into not only an irrelevant, but a completely wrong direction. Tsun would give you a standing ovation, perhaps even send you flowers or something. I actually took your argument serious, initially, and pointed out the differences between the three ideologies, one of which is by now dead, and graduated these in reference of one to another. I assumed the other readers would have at least the brains to consider the numbers known to them, i.e., Islam ~300million murdered in 1,400 years and 57 nations enslaved. Bolshies, around 120 million murdered in ~100 years; only a few nations left under its boot, such as North Korea, Cuba etc., others are in a waiting stage, just taking a break, China for instance. Nazism, ~5-10 million murdered in in a total of approx 30 years, including the last ones like Chile and Spain; current stranglehold on nations zero – and about as many followers. As an ideology, dead as a door nail, though, admittedly, ordinary people here in Europe are reconsidering it. Back to the thread and the commentators. Hard to believe, instead of looking at the graduation they condemn the use of a ruler to measure… I had to read the replies a few times, I was laughing, I just couldn’t believe the stupidity. All I did was pointing out that Islam is about 80%, or more, congruent with Marxism, and about 20-30% with Nazism, roughly. Well, I am sure you know that. But the respondents? Hilarious, apparently they can’t even read coherently.

          I didn’t even bother to put those numbers in there, assuming they’d know these, and they do actually. Pointing out the mere fundamental, ideological and thus also the logical differences… Oh brother! What a bunch brick brains! It was quite funny, I grew up in Germany, baby boomer, I am 67. I remember as a child the talk in the family about the fear of their children, when they lived under the Nazis, of telling on the ‘block wardens’ what is said at home. Like later in east Germany: “Don’t tell **anyone** what we say at home.” – and still, they sent the children out when they had to discuss things. Now, ‘Gravenimage’ has the incredible arrogance and impertinence (Fu…g Hell!) to tell me what my family has experienced, and what I have heard first hand, and that ***in a lecturing tone***! I know most people are indeed conceited, but that… Phenomenal! She then proceeded to proclaim that I promote a ‘benign view’ of fascism. F..k!!! Unbelievable, I make a comparison, produce a short listing, and people talk about something completely different, whilst they behave as if I said and stated something else, namely the exact opposite. The idiocy is stunning.

          I thought that in the upcoming civil wars the Muslims will win, quite easily, the first round, if not the first few rounds. Given the obvious lack of understanding, and the aiming in the wrong direction by the/us westerners, one only needs to look at most posts here (and this present one in particular). Then, after some time, tables will turn and your people will be defeated. I have to say that underestimated you, you wont win the first or first few rounds, but most likely, you will win the lot! With those brick-brained morons as opposition, how can you lose? Neigh impossible.

          Incredible. I often wondered how Masood, your Medinian predecessor (well, you know that) was able to throw discord among the peoples and thus set ’em up for the slaughter – whilst they knew each other for generations. I didn’t know it was that easy, stunning. And in a black humoured way, funny. They all are completely, without exception, run pre-programmed on the mainstream media, and its propaganda lines of the last 50-80 years; every thought is pre-perceived, and thus the reaction implanted. As explained, expounded and predicted by the school, the school got absolutely everything right. The only, minor, deviation being Islam. Which doesn’t really matter because there are only very few anti-jihad websites. Though, even these are being attacked, directly or by undermining, such as you are practising. Very thorough, very thoughtful, my compliments – though, still somewhat reluctantly.

          Nevertheless, it is very smart. I don’t know how many come to websites such as this, looking for an alternative, having been called Nazis, Racists etc., by the mainstream media. Then they come to JW or similar, and here they are told the same thing: Hitler, mein kampf and lots of that type of bull… Amply supported and confirmed by hordes of posters. So they look, leave – and give up, instead of finding encouragement and becoming resistance. Can’t blame ’em, they are called Nazis etc., by the media, and here as well! How many come and leave? 90 out of 100, 95? It is very smart indeed. You are doing an excellent job, blocking, discrediting and deflecting. And virtually everybody is helping you, hilarious!

          I thought ‘Antifa’, and all that racist, nazi, islamophobe shrieking, that’s so obvious, it just can’t work, at least not for any length of time. But it does! And how! Gravenimage leads the charge and gives full support – and doesn’t even comprehend it. Or perhaps she does? If the likes of Soros would know, they’d probably need tranquillizers to calm down their laughter. Mind you, he could be upset for spending too much money and making too much of an effort. Also, at this junction another compliment might be in order. The puppeteers on sites like this are hardly ever mentioned, if at all, only the puppets. It’s like a ‘Punch & Judy’ theatre, instead you wave ‘mein kampf’ and all are shouting: “Yes, yes, that’s the evil one!” By Jove, they actually manipulate themselves, phenomenal. Thus at least half the Koran has been removed from the firing line, brilliant. Particularly considering that most here wont have read the Koran (and definitely not in its original sequence), and most certainly nobody has read Mein Kampf; otherwise they wouldn’t talk such bullocks about it. Yet, not even a single site operator/owner gets the idea to wave ‘das kapital’ and shows real similarities and congruence. It’s simply brilliant, I have to admit and laugh, even though I am still in the opposing camp, I am a Christian.

          And all the replies were and are in the same ilk.

          Well, you are doing a good job, from your point of view. Changing sides, it would have certain benefits, I think. For one thing, your side has the money, no two ways about that. Another, having women/wives as chattel, no real responsibilities… It’s just not the perception I grew up with, and was taught, nor my Christian believe and Roman civilization. On the other hand, it would be quite pleasant, I have to admit. I just don’t like the Anarchist/Bolshevist part – for the time being. But compared with being part of a hopeless position in which a bunch of morons want to fight the wrong, non-existing enemy, whilst being directed by their actual enemy to do so… “Ship is sinking? Oh good, let’s open the bilges and set fire to the upper deck.” Welcome to an anti jihad website!

          So, IQ Rassouli, it wont take much more, well, a bit, and I will quit and come over. What would I have to do? Just say ‘La ilaha il Allah’ and that’s it? Hmh, doesn’t sound that bad. What would I have to lose? Currently I am called a “Nazi” or that I “promote a benign view of fascism”, and similar such bullshit. Get rid of the commie stuff and I may join tomorrow. On the other hand, that may make it safe for me. So my dear chap IQ Rassouli, your work and the ample assistance of your most helpful commentators, from Graven to Jeanette and others, is working.

          To the other poster here on this thread
          =============================.

          I had no idea that the Nazis were burning books and persecuting people. My, what news! I never thought of that! Thank you, thank you, for educating me with such astonishing knowledge… Humbled do I bow to your wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I beg you for a thousand pardons, in my silliness I thought that I actually made a comparison, and listed the fundamental differences and congruences between three different ideologies – ah, far too complicated to comprehend. Sorry about that.

          May I suggest the following: Rename JW into NW. NaziWatch. Anything suspicious, that is whatever it is that you don’t comprehend, and/or are incapable of reading in full, is to be condemned; and most certainly the writer, as you already do. It is after all politically incorrect and current practice with the MSM. Practically every newspaper and TV station will tell you so, and you are following their instructions to the letter. So, that shouldn’t be too difficult, as you are in full agreement with Antifa. Soros & Co. (“Antifa” means Anti Fascist – you ought to be very happy, your bosom pals), well, you do sound exactly like them. Please forgive me, but you really do sound like them, i.e., everyone who thinks, analyses and points to the real enemy is a Nazi, so, no difference between you and Antifa, none whatsoever. That antijihad bit? Easy, just express your fullest support to all moderate Muslims, it’s the religion of peace, don’t you know? And condemn only the radical ones. That’s all that’s missing with you to be 100% Antifa. And so, Soros, Murdoch & Co will love you! You are already there. Just think, you already made it, all that’s needed is to distinguish between between the peace loving majority of Muslims and the extremists. And everybody who doubts it, is a Nazi. My, how bright, how intelligent and how understanding you are. I cannot help but marvel at you, you don’t read, a quick glance, no thought, and your opinion is formed and condemnation occurs instantaneously. Oh I forgot, frequently some of you quote the Koran and hadith to each other, how refreshing, how educational, forgive my oversight.

          And finally, am I lucky not to be in the US! Otherwise Graven, Jeanette and others would put me on trial – in Salem probably. Thank God I am in Europe, or thank Allah?

          PS: Question to you wonderful, intelligent people, who are so fast in condemnation: If I were a Nazi, as you obviously presume according to your writings, would I write about Islam and the Muslims as I do? Particularly given your fantasies about Nazism and Islam. Oh dear, I hope your braincells don’t suffer, I am sorry for putting these under such stress with such a horribly complicated question.

        • DFD says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 5:49 pm

          Additional
          since you are so smart about Nazis
          ===========================

          PS: I just couldn’t help myself 🙂 I have to seek, even beg for your comments. So I hope that you will indulge in supplying a sought for answer. Here is the question and its background:

          Since you are all so Hitler obsessed and Nazi watching, and ***suspecting***, here is a little problem:

          A high ranking US official, very, very high ranking in fact, stated that Hitler was a good man, and that future historians will have to work hard to understand Hitler’s genius and that his system of government and political ideology was the best for Germany. His family has, purportedly, a history of Anti-Semitism, but is very influential. On top of that he promises to fight NWOs and secret societies, just like Hitler did, but his speech was not so extensive in reference thereto. That is to say, he was wise enough to leave out all anti-Semitic references in his speech, though these normally accompany such rhetoric. Oh, he and his family belong to a very fundamental part of Christendom.

          So he is obviously a loony, but now consider that this guy can actually start a nuclear war by firing submarine based US missiles against Russia, China or even both. Another problem, he is very rich, so is his family, and they are firmly entrenched, nay, they are part of the financial and political hierarchy. You can’t get him out of office, he is a darling of the Pentagon. And he most certainly wont resign, and he cannot be removed from office; very, very complicated because of his position. They’ll reduce you to mud, they have that kind of power. On top of that, he’s also relatively young for a man of such power, whilst in addition he also has a considerable public following. Big problem, no?

          How would you deal with him? Any who dares to answer? Thought so!

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 6:31 pm

          Oliver wrote:

          Graven- what is not generally known (I myself found this out just a few years ago)- ( there were few – compared to today- blacks in Europe- and somewhere between almost none and very, very few if any in Eastern Europe).

          Hitler also murdered several thousands (if not more ) BLACKS. (Negroes when I was younger).

          In addition to Jews, Gypsies; homosexuals; handicapped people; those who dared to disagree with him, etc.
          ……………………..

          You are correct, Oliver. I’m not sure if the number of victims reached the thousands, but there were certainly many of them.

          There were not a lot of Black people in Germany, but there were some. And there were others in places the Nazis conquered–musicians in Berlin and Paris, and in other French cities immediately comes to mind.

          There was no systematic program of extermination against Black people as there was against Jews, but there is no doubt that they were considered “racially impure” and often targeted. Mixed-race marriages were often broken up. Blacks and mixed-race children were often forcibly sterilized.

          There are also many reports that Black American and Canadian prisoners of war were treated especially harshly.

          Another ugly facet of the Nazi regime.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 8:40 pm

          DFD wrote:

          To IQ al Rassooli
          =============.

          I think of joining your side. Being democratically minded, that is being anti-Muslim and anti-Anarchist/Bolshevist is obviously hopeless.
          ………………………………….

          DFD, why would you consider this hopeless? That describes most of us here.

          And what do you mean, “your side”? IQ al Rassooli is a staunch Anti-Jihadist.

          And I notice your saying you are anti-Muslim and anti-Anarchist/Bolshevist–are you specifically omitting an opposition to Fascism?

          More:

          Fantastic, now I have an incling why Antifa, Soros, etc. are so successful. Or rather, why the general public is so easily duped by the MSM.

          I must compliment you, it’s brilliant. You proclaim something hilarious, something completely wrong and deceitful. Namely that the Koran and mein kampf are identical, and proclaim that to be a ***fact***.
          ………………………………….

          DFD, they may not be identical, but they are *quite* similar.

          And the fact is that, while the Muslim world is not much on reading–especially work by the “filthy Infidels”–Mein Kampf has been a consistent best-seller in Dar-al-Islam:

          “Mein Kampf becomes bestseller in Turkey”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/03/mein-kampf-becomes-bestseller-in-turkey

          More:

          Thus pointing people into not only an irrelevant, but a completely wrong direction. Tsun would give you a standing ovation, perhaps even send you flowers or something. I actually took your argument serious, initially, and pointed out the differences between the three ideologies, one of which is by now dead, and graduated these in reference of one to another. I assumed the other readers would have at least the brains to consider the numbers known to them, i.e., Islam ~300million murdered in 1,400 years and 57 nations enslaved. Bolshies, around 120 million murdered in ~100 years; only a few nations left under its boot, such as North Korea, Cuba etc., others are in a waiting stage, just taking a break, China for instance. Nazism, ~5-10 million murdered in in a total of approx 30 years, including the last ones like Chile and Spain; current stranglehold on nations zero – and about as many followers.
          ………………………………….

          DFD, there were more than that number who died just in the extermination camps. The number of those killed by the Nazis overall is much higher.

          There are, as you note, some differences between Islam, the Fascists, and the Communists–but these are all totalitarian creeds responsible for the death of millions.

          There is no doubt that the biggest threat to us right now is Islam–but that does not make Hitler and Stalin perforce good people.

          And a small point, but who is Tsun?

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          As an ideology, dead as a door nail, though, admittedly, ordinary people here in Europe are reconsidering it.
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          I hope not. From what I know, the numbers are not large.

          Having Europeans turn to a murderous, freedom-crushing creed would not be a positive thing.

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          Back to the thread and the commentators. Hard to believe, instead of looking at the graduation they condemn the use of a ruler to measure… I had to read the replies a few times, I was laughing, I just couldn’t believe the stupidity. All I did was pointing out that Islam is about 80%, or more, congruent with Marxism, and about 20-30% with Nazism, roughly. Well, I am sure you know that. But the respondents? Hilarious, apparently they can’t even read coherently.
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          Islam has a lot in common with totalitarianism in general. I don’t know why you are so enraged by others pointing out this simple fact.

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          It was quite funny, I grew up in Germany, baby boomer, I am 67. I remember as a child the talk in the family about the fear of their children, when they lived under the Nazis, of telling on the ‘block wardens’ what is said at home. Like later in east Germany: “Don’t tell **anyone** what we say at home.” – and still, they sent the children out when they had to discuss things. Now, ‘Gravenimage’ has the incredible arrogance and impertinence (Fu…g Hell!) to tell me what my family has experienced, and what I have heard first hand, and that ***in a lecturing tone***!
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          I’m not sure how you think this proves me wrong, DFD. I don’t consider this ugliness “family friendly” at all.

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          I know most people are indeed conceited, but that… Phenomenal! She then proceeded to proclaim that I promote a ‘benign view’ of fascism. F..k!!! Unbelievable, I make a comparison, produce a short listing, and people talk about something completely different, whilst they behave as if I said and stated something else, namely the exact opposite. The idiocy is stunning.
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          DFD, you appeared–and still appear–to be enraged over negative references to Fascism. I’m not sure why this is so.

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          I thought that in the upcoming civil wars the Muslims will win, quite easily, the first round, if not the first few rounds. Given the obvious lack of understanding, and the aiming in the wrong direction by the/us westerners, one only needs to look at most posts here (and this present one in particular). Then, after some time, tables will turn and your people will be defeated. I have to say that underestimated you, you wont win the first or first few rounds, but most likely, you will win the lot! With those brick-brained morons as opposition, how can you lose? Neigh impossible.
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          I am unclear on why you think being opposed to totalitarian savagery will lead to our defeat?

          And how is opposing the crushing of freedom “aiming in the wrong direction”?

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          Incredible. I often wondered how Masood, your Medinian predecessor (well, you know that) was able to throw discord among the peoples and thus set ’em up for the slaughter – whilst they knew each other for generations. I didn’t know it was that easy, stunning. And in a black humoured way, funny. They all are completely, without exception, run pre-programmed on the mainstream media, and its propaganda lines of the last 50-80 years; every thought is pre-perceived, and thus the reaction implanted. As explained, expounded and predicted by the school, the school got absolutely everything right. The only, minor, deviation being Islam. Which doesn’t really matter because there are only very few anti-jihad websites. Though, even these are being attacked, directly or by undermining, such as you are practising. Very thorough, very thoughtful, my compliments – though, still somewhat reluctantly.
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          By “Masood”, do you mean Muhammed? How are Anti-Jihadists here like the vicious “Prophet”?

          And how is saying that totalitarian savagery was a bad thing undermining the fight against totalitarian savagery?

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          Nevertheless, it is very smart. I don’t know how many come to websites such as this, looking for an alternative, having been called Nazis, Racists etc., by the mainstream media.
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          DFD, the MSM falsely characterizing Anti-Jihadists as “Nazis” does not, somehow, mean that Nazism was not a bad thing.

          In fact, the power of this false accusation comes precisely *because* Fascism was such a bad thing.

          We counter this, I believe, by pointing out that we are not like the Nazis, not by implying that the Nazis weren’t such bad guys.

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          Then they come to JW or similar, and here they are told the same thing: Hitler, mein kampf and lots of that type of bull… Amply supported and confirmed by hordes of posters. So they look, leave – and give up, instead of finding encouragement and becoming resistance. Can’t blame ’em, they are called Nazis etc., by the media, and here as well! How many come and leave? 90 out of 100, 95? It is very smart indeed. You are doing an excellent job, blocking, discrediting and deflecting. And virtually everybody is helping you, hilarious!
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          DFD, I know you have said before that we must be careful not to alienate neo-Nazis here–but I do not believe that neo-Nazis are our allies in the fight against Jihad.

          I also do not believe their numbers are very large. The largest neo-Nazi group in the US only has about 400 members. Numbers may be a bit higher in Britain and Europe, but I don’t think they are all that high there, either.

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          I thought ‘Antifa’, and all that racist, nazi, islamophobe shrieking, that’s so obvious, it just can’t work, at least not for any length of time. But it does! And how! Gravenimage leads the charge and gives full support – and doesn’t even comprehend it. Or perhaps she does? If the likes of Soros would know, they’d probably need tranquillizers to calm down their laughter. Mind you, he could be upset for spending too much money and making too much of an effort. Also, at this junction another compliment might be in order. The puppeteers on sites like this are hardly ever mentioned, if at all, only the puppets. It’s like a ‘Punch & Judy’ theatre, instead you wave ‘mein kampf’ and all are shouting: “Yes, yes, that’s the evil one!” By Jove, they actually manipulate themselves, phenomenal. Thus at least half the Koran has been removed from the firing line, brilliant. Particularly considering that most here wont have read the Koran (and definitely not in its original sequence), and most certainly nobody has read Mein Kampf; otherwise they wouldn’t talk such bullocks about it. Yet, not even a single site operator/owner gets the idea to wave ‘das kapital’ and shows real similarities and congruence. It’s simply brilliant, I have to admit and laugh, even though I am still in the opposing camp, I am a Christian.
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          I’ve read the Qur’an in multiple translations, as well a a great deal of commentary, including that by Robert Spencer. I have read Das Kapital, as well.

          English translations of Mein Kampf can easily be found on-line.

          I am no fan of any of these books. They were all influential–but not in a good way.

          I’m afraid the idea that being against totalitarianism in general somehow supports George Soros makes little sense.

          con’d

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 8:42 pm

          con’d

          And all the replies were and are in the same ilk.

          Well, you are doing a good job, from your point of view. Changing sides, it would have certain benefits, I think. For one thing, your side has the money, no two ways about that. Another, having women/wives as chattel, no real responsibilities… It’s just not the perception I grew up with, and was taught, nor my Christian believe and Roman civilization. On the other hand, it would be quite pleasant, I have to admit. I just don’t like the Anarchist/Bolshevist part – for the time being. But compared with being part of a hopeless position in which a bunch of morons want to fight the wrong, non-existing enemy, whilst being directed by their actual enemy to do so… “Ship is sinking? Oh good, let’s open the bilges and set fire to the upper deck.” Welcome to an anti jihad website!
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          Well, that is just calumny. How is claiming that I am in support of treating women as chattel borne out by *anything* I have ever said? I have consistently opposed the oppression of women, as anyone who has ever read my posts knows. You should know this yourself, DFD.

          And the idea that Anti-Jihadists are somehow rolling in money makes no sense, either. Having just done my taxes, I can assure you this is not the case.

          Why do you consider people who oppose the horrors of Fascism to be on the other side from yourself?

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          So, IQ Rassouli, it wont take much more, well, a bit, and I will quit and come over.

          What would I have to do? Just say ‘La ilaha il Allah’ and that’s it? Hmh, doesn’t sound that bad. What would I have to lose?
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          This is more calumny–IQ al Rasooli is no Muslim, nor is he trying to get Muslim converts here. He is a brave Anti-Jihadist, and has the cv to prove it. Here is his work for the Counter Jihad report:

          https://counterjihadreport.com/category/i-q-al-rassooli/

          I don’t know if you are unfamiliar with his work. If so, you might want to check it out.

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          Currently I am called a “Nazi” or that I “promote a benign view of fascism”, and similar such bullshit. Get rid of the commie stuff and I may join tomorrow. On the other hand, that may make it safe for me. So my dear chap IQ Rassouli, your work and the ample assistance of your most helpful commentators, from Graven to Jeanette and others, is working.
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          DFD, it is not the case that if one is against Fascism that one must perforce be a “Commie”. I think Fascism and Communism have a great deal in common.

          Again, anyone who is familiar with my posting history knows that I have condemned Communism many times–especially its most brutal forms under thugs like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.

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          To the other poster here on this thread
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          I had no idea that the Nazis were burning books and persecuting people. My, what news! I never thought of that! Thank you, thank you, for educating me with such astonishing knowledge… Humbled do I bow to your wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I beg you for a thousand pardons, in my silliness I thought that I actually made a comparison, and listed the fundamental differences and congruences between three different ideologies – ah, far too complicated to comprehend. Sorry about that.
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          If you know these things, then I am not sure why you believe that there was no persecution of the individual under the Nazis save on racial grounds.

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          May I suggest the following: Rename JW into NW. NaziWatch.
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          Not at all. The main threat of Nazism–at least at this point–is many decades in the past, thank God.

          But I do not believe it is remiss to note that we have stood up to and successfully opposed evil in living memory, nor that many were in denial about the threat of Fascism before WWII, just as many are in denial of the threat of Islam now.

          The greatest threat of our parents or grandparents era was Fascism; the greatest threat our our generation is Islam.

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          Anything suspicious, that is whatever it is that you don’t comprehend, and/or are incapable of reading in full, is to be condemned; and most certainly the writer, as you already do. It is after all politically incorrect and current practice with the MSM. Practically every newspaper and TV station will tell you so, and you are following their instructions to the letter. So, that shouldn’t be too difficult, as you are in full agreement with Antifa. Soros & Co. (“Antifa” means Anti Fascist – you ought to be very happy, your bosom pals), well, you do sound exactly like them.

          Please forgive me, but you really do sound like them, i.e., everyone who thinks, analyses and points to the real enemy is a Nazi, so, no difference between you and Antifa, none whatsoever. That antijihad bit? Easy, just express your fullest support to all moderate Muslims, it’s the religion of peace, don’t you know? And condemn only the radical ones. That’s all that’s missing with you to be 100% Antifa.
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          With all respect, DFD, this is just silly. When have I–or IQ al Rassoli–even claimed that Islam is the “religion of peace”? I have debunked that shibboleth here many times.

          And no–I don’t think that Antifa and Soros would be particularly thrilled at a staunch record of opposing Jihad, including creating cartoons criticizing Muhammed. Why would they?

          And that idea that our opposing Fascism means we are incapable of comprehending it is something I have to reject.

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          And so, Soros, Murdoch & Co will love you! You are already there. Just think, you already made it, all that’s needed is to distinguish between between the peace loving majority of Muslims and the extremists.
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          IQ al Rasooli opposes the idea that the only problem is “extremists” *on this very thread*. Did you miss that, DFD? I oppose the idea, myself.

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          And everybody who doubts it, is a Nazi. My, how bright, how intelligent and how understanding you are. I cannot help but marvel at you, you don’t read, a quick glance, no thought, and your opinion is formed and condemnation occurs instantaneously. Oh I forgot, frequently some of you quote the Koran and hadith to each other, how refreshing, how educational, forgive my oversight.
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          No one here has said that the majority of Muslims are peace-loving. Where did you get that?

          And no–I don’t apologize for quoting the Qur’an and Hadith. I think it is very important to understand the source material of Islam, which is cited by pious Muslims–including Jihadists–all the time.

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          And finally, am I lucky not to be in the US! Otherwise Graven, Jeanette and others would put me on trial – in Salem probably. Thank God I am in Europe, or thank Allah?
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          The idea that saying I do not support Fascism is tantamount to putting you on trial for witchcraft is simply absurd.

          Your idea that witch trials were exclusively an American phenomenon is mistaken, as well–this happened in Britain and Europe, as well. In fact, the reason Salem is so notorious in the US is that this was the *only time* this ever happened here. An ugly chapter of history.

          The only ones still trying “witches” now are *Muslims*. I have condemned this, as well.

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          PS: Question to you wonderful, intelligent people, who are so fast in condemnation: If I were a Nazi, as you obviously presume according to your writings, would I write about Islam and the Muslims as I do?
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          I don’t presume you are a Nazi–not at all–but you do appear to have a rather more benign view of that horrific creed than I believe is warranted.

          But yes–while Islam and Fascism have a great deal in common ideologically, it is not impossible for a Nazi to be against Islam. This would be possible on religious, cultural, or even racial grounds. Of course, Islam is not a race, but Nazis could conceivably be offended by Islam not because it is so savage, but simply because so many non-whites practice it.

          The above is purely a hypothetical–I have never seen much opposition to Islam from Nazis.

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          Particularly given your fantasies about Nazism and Islam. Oh dear, I hope your braincells don’t suffer, I am sorry for putting these under such stress with such a horribly complicated question.
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          Really, I don’t know why you are sneering at Anti-Jihadists here. I am sad to see it.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 9:22 pm

          DFD wrote:

          Additional
          since you are so smart about Nazis
          ===========================

          PS: I just couldn’t help myself ? I have to seek, even beg for your comments. So I hope that you will indulge in supplying a sought for answer. Here is the question and its background:

          Since you are all so Hitler obsessed and Nazi watching, and ***suspecting***, here is a little problem:

          A high ranking US official, very, very high ranking in fact, stated that Hitler was a good man, and that future historians will have to work hard to understand Hitler’s genius and that his system of government and political ideology was the best for Germany.
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          Where did Donald Trump ever laud Hitler? Given the false claims that he is “Fascist”, I would imagine his calling Hitler a good man and a genius and claiming that his ideology was the best for Germany would have been plastered all over the press. Links?

          In fact, if Trump had publicly praised Hitler and his policies, I doubt *very much* he ever would have been elected. Hitler is not a popular figure in the Land of the Free.

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          His family has, purportedly, a history of Anti-Semitism, but is very influential. On top of that he promises to fight NWOs and secret societies, just like Hitler did, but his speech was not so extensive in reference thereto. That is to say, he was wise enough to leave out all anti-Semitic references in his speech, though these normally accompany such rhetoric. Oh, he and his family belong to a very fundamental part of Christendom.
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          I have always seen Trump condemn antisemitism, as well as support Israel. If you have any proof of his being antisemitic, please provide.

          And Trump is not a Christian fundamentalist–he seems to be a pretty mainstream Protestant.

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          So he is obviously a loony, but now consider that this guy can actually start a nuclear war by firing submarine based US missiles against Russia, China or even both.
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          Trump can be a bit impulsive, but I have never considered him to be “a loony”. In fact, though I have had a few reservations about his knowledge of Islam, I have praised his general opposition to Jihad. I voted for him myself, and urged others here to do so as well. He is not perfect, but is likely *much* better than his Islamophilic opponent would have been.

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          Another problem, he is very rich, so is his family, and they are firmly entrenched, nay, they are part of the financial and political hierarchy. You can’t get him out of office, he is a darling of the Pentagon.
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          Only one president–Richard Nixon–has effectively ever been pushed to resign. This is not because of Trump’s wealth–only far Leftists believe he has done anything that should make him resign.

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          And he most certainly wont resign, and he cannot be removed from office; very, very complicated because of his position. They’ll reduce you to mud, they have that kind of power. On top of that, he’s also relatively young for a man of such power, whilst in addition he also has a considerable public following. Big problem, no?
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          Actually, Donald Trump was the oldest candidate to ever be elected president. He is a vigorous guy; but he is not a young man.

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          How would you deal with him? Any who dares to answer? Thought so!
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          Why wouldn’t I ‘dare’ to answer?

          I have been disappointed on one or two points with Trump–chiefly with his not pursuing the “Muslim ban” more vigorously–but there is no reason I would want to see him out of office, nor, I imagine, would most people here.

          But if Trump ever *did* do anything I considered worthy of impeachment, I would certainly support it. The figure in his bank account would not make any difference one way or another.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 19, 2017 at 4:47 pm

          On this thread, DFD claims that I got things wrong in my reply above–but never actually says what it was that I got wrong.

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/australia-muslim-who-murdered-six-by-hitting-them-with-his-car-says-muslim-faith-is-the-correct-faith/comment-page-1#comment-1655065

          He also reasserts the claim that Trump lauded Hitler and Nazism–all without presenting any proof whatsoever.

        • IQ al Rassooli says

          Apr 19, 2017 at 5:01 pm

          Dear gravenimage

          I am upset you wasted so much time dissolving DFD’s arguments.

          Most of the time I may make one devastating answer and let the other side continue their rants

          I have not even once had a Muslim or an apologist for Islam debate me in over 1260 radio interviews in the USA on over 150 stations in the last six years

          No Muslim on Earth can debate me these subjects in public and wins. Such a creature does not and cannot exist

          Thank you for your kind remarks and support

          IQ al Rassooli
          Kafir & Proud!

        • Oliver says

          Apr 20, 2017 at 9:17 pm

          Hello Graven

          I missed the comment where Trump IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE LAUDED HITLER.

          But, perhaps he is referring to (as far as I know, it was fake news) IN EUROPE- A FEW WEEKS AGO, MAYBE A MONTH AGO, THERE WAS AN AUCTION (SOMEWHERE IN EUROPE, I BELIEVE LONDON) AND THE TELEPHONE THAT HITLER (SUPPOSEDLY) USED IN HIS BUNKER IN THE LAST DAYS OF THE THIRD REICH WAS AUCTIONED OFF. THE BUYER PAID SOME $38,000.

          SOME ( AT LEAST ONE IN THE TAMPA BAY FL AREA-ON A RADIO TALK SHOW PICKED THIS UP) AND I WOULD GUESS OTHER MEDIA- THAT TRUMP, THROUGH A PROXY WAS THE “UNKNOWN” AMERICAN WHO BOUGHT IT. I never heard a retraction or any proof. (Nor any proof that the buyer was an American, either).

      • David Cameron says

        Apr 16, 2017 at 5:14 pm

        The Nazis and the muslims were allies in WW II and Mein Kampf is still a big seller in the middle east. Decades ago, the muslims made a movie of the book “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion” an anti-semitic lie created by the Soviet Union which is been popular ever since and gets regular viewing all over the middle east.

        • DFD says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 9:07 am

          The Nazis and the Muslims became indeed allies – after DeGaulle armed about 3-4 million Muslims for his “free French”, whilst a chap by name of Winston Churchill armed about 2 million Muslims. After that the Nazis scrambled for a “Me too! Me too!” operation. Though, they only managed about 300-400,000 in total…

          One has to say though that those French and British Muslim were very grateful, afterwards they showed their gratitude to the empires in no uncertain terms. Such a wise decision from Churchill and DeGaulle. Look at France and England now… And the empires! Wow! So much gratitude, so much of it.

          BTW, have noticed that the Muslims are aided, abetted and any form supported by the left and far left? Of course, I could be mistaken and in reality, May, Merkel, Obama, Hollande, Hillary etc. Et cetra est, they are all Nazis. And so is the entire MSM. And Soros, a self described Anarchist, and Kissinger, bloody hell, all of them Nazis. Phenomenal, they really had me fooled, oh dear.

          Just incredible. Who would have guessed.

          Also, have a look at my post above to IQ al Rassooli — and think. You know, I seriously believe, I know that’s naive, but I really believe that one should look at the enemy and name them. That means identifying them. What do you think, is that silly?

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 7:57 pm

          DFD, Hitler expressed his admiration for Islam before he began invading his neighbors. It was not a response to allied actions.

          And he modeled the Holocaust on the Armenian genocide. He sneered, “who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?”.

    • mousey says

      Apr 16, 2017 at 11:43 pm

      iq: what would you call bashar al assad? Sunnis don’t think he’s muslim, do they? The crusaders didn’t think the alawites were muslim…i’ve read. I’ve read the alawites celebrate christmas, palm sunday, easter. Easter? And they don’t build mosques, etc etc. So what are they, the alawites?

      What about tarek fatah? Cat Stevens? bella hadid? Ice cube? sayn malik? What about Nahid Afrin, is she a potential mass murderer? I mean i see what you mean, but in my mind i make a distinction between nahid afrin and Anwar al-Aulaqi, I wouldn’t put them in the same category. I wouldn’t say, oh ya nahid is a ticking time bomb. But you think i’m wrong?

      it’s the postmodernists who think you ARE your group identity. I believe in individuals.

      • IQ al Rassooli says

        Apr 17, 2017 at 4:34 am

        mousey, read the following as answer to your comment that you deal with INDIVIDUAL Muslims

        SPEAR OF JIHAD

        There is only ONE version of Islam and or Muslims called FUNDAMENTALIST.

        There are no SHADES in Islam such as Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist Muslims. Islam is Islam just as there were never Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist Nazis or Communists.

        All Muslims are Jihadists. ALL of them; because they are all following one book: Muhammad’s Quran

        Al Baqara 2.216: “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.”

        Sahih Muslim Hadith 4631 & 4626 Abu Huraira
        “I heard Muhammad say: … I love that I should be killed in Allah’s Cause [Jihad]; then I should be brought back to life and be killed again in Jihad.'”

        Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 4.50 Narrated by Anas bin Malik
        “The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause {Qital fi Sabil Allah} (JIHAD) is better than the world and whatever is in it.'”

        I use Muslims to indicate all those who are followers of Muhammad and are Sharia Compliant because they are the ones who constitute the Spear of Jihad or the Sword of Islam.

        Islamic Jihad has two intertwined components:

        1. War Jihadis are represented by the Head of the spear of Islam

        2. Stealth Jihadis are the so called Moderate Muslims (the Silent Majority) who are represented by the Shaft of the spear of Islam

        The Stealth Jihadis are the ones who supply the War Jihadists with Finance, Weapons, Intelligence, Shelter, Propaganda, Protection and Deception. They are of course family, friends and other Muslims.

        Neither tip nor shaft of the spear are by themselves deadly; BUT tip and shaft together constitute a weapon of death and destruction.

        Hence it is irrelevant how many Muslims are War Jihadis (whether 5%, 10% or 20% of Muslims) because the remaining Stealth Jihadis (95%, 90% or 80%) are the ones who silently but diligently back them up.

        IQ al Rassooli
        Kafir & Proud!

        • mousey says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 9:20 am

          Ok, so you consider someone “muslim” only if they are sharia compliant.

          1. My understanding of sharia, gotten from qutb, is that sharia is not one set of in-stone rules, but is different for different groups of people. But i think you would say there is only one version of sharia.

          2. Therefore, assad is not a muslim by your standards Nahid Afrin is not a muslim by your standards. How many millions of “muslims” are not muslims by your standard? What do you call them? They aren’t “moderate muslims,” so what are they?

        • IQ al Rassooli says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 9:28 am

          mousey

          Do NOT put words in my mouth. You are not that intelligent

          The standards I am using are ISLAMIC

          You should know (if you really have any knowledge of Islam) that every sect of Muslims consider the OTHERS heretical

          The instant one declares himself/herself a MUSLIM must follow Sharia. Full Stop

          End of conversation

          IQ al Rassooli
          Kafir & Proud!

        • mousey says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 1:04 pm

          “I use Muslims to indicate all those who are followers of Muhammad and are Sharia Compliant ” How did i put words in your mouth?

          Why do you stoop to calling me unintelligent in an angry way instead of discussing with me?

          The 16 year old singer calls herself muslim. She thinks of herself as a good muslim. She has 40+ clerics putting fatwas on her for singing. She says that won’t stop her, because allah gave her a beautiful voice to sing and she will use it to her last breath. Is she muslim or not? By your standards.– she isn’t following any sharia i know of, and neither is bashar al assad… so are they muslims or are they not, since being muslim is black and white (“there is only ONE version of islam”)

        • Darryl Kerney says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 5:43 pm

          to mousey,
          perhaps this will answer your question regarding music and islam,

          https://islamqa.info/en/5000

        • Jeanette says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 7:42 pm

          “Do NOT put words in my mouth. You are not that intelligent

          The standards I am using are ISLAMIC”

          Sounds like something a Muslim would say.

        • mousey says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 12:08 am

          Wow, Darryl Kerney, i just don’t have time to do other than skim it, but that’s quite a reference. The thing is some ancient hindu writing also has stuff about singing…only it’s explained better: We are in material bodies and think we are matter. It is very hard to get out of this brainwashing. The only way out is by wanting to get out. Singing songs about, for example, boy-girl stuff will just increase your thoughts and attachment to matter and ultimately suffering. Therefore they are “bad” — not sinful, but more like chains to matter. Singing to please god is good because it connects you to Him, and the more you remember Him the better you’ll like Him and the sooner you’ll realize He’s real.

          so when i hear the clerics having a conniption over nahid, i can see them from this hinduish point of view and it makes them just look like guys that don’t really understand the point of the idea of not singing mundane songs. They got the idea that mundane songs are bad, but their only reasoning is allah said it, or someone said mo said it, or someone said that someone said that mo said it, or someone said someone said someone said mo said it.

          If they had a deeper understanding of why allah or whoever said it, they could speak with compassion, instead of force. They could try to educate with love instead of force from hate and envy.

        • Darryl Kerney says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 8:58 am

          mousey,
          Well, if you actually READ IT maybe you wil come to “a greater understanding” of the issue, which is that islam says you shouldn’t waste your time on things that do not directly serve islam, because that is not the purpose of allah’s slaves, who would more properly be called mohammad’s slaves.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 17, 2017 at 8:08 pm

        mousey wrote:

        What about tarek fatah? Cat Stevens? bella hadid? Ice cube? sayn malik? What about Nahid Afrin, is she a potential mass murderer? I mean i see what you mean, but in my mind i make a distinction between nahid afrin and Anwar al-Aulaqi, I wouldn’t put them in the same category. I wouldn’t say, oh ya nahid is a ticking time bomb. But you think i’m wrong?
        ………………………….

        mousey, you may believe that Cat Stevens–now Yusef Islam–is a benign figure. Are you aware of what he had to say about Salman Rushdie?

        On 21 February 1989, Yusuf Islam addressed students at Kingston University in London about his conversion to Islam and was asked about the controversy in the Muslim world and the fatwa calling for Salman Rushdie’s execution. He replied, “He must be killed. The Qur’an makes it clear – if someone defames the prophet, then he must die.”

        In an interview, he had this to say:

        Robertson: You don’t think that this man deserves to die?
        Y. Islam: Who, Salman Rushdie?
        Robertson: Yes.
        Y. Islam: Yes, yes.
        Robertson: And do you have a duty to be his executioner?
        Y. Islam: Uh, no, not necessarily, unless we were in an Islamic state and I was ordered by a judge or by the authority to carry out such an act – perhaps, yes.
        Robertson: Would you be part of that protest, Yusuf Islam, would you go to a demonstration where you knew that an effigy was going to be burned?
        Y. Islam: I would have hoped that it’d be the real thing.

        Asked about the above comments, Yusuf Islam had this to say:

        “When asked what I’d do if Salman Rushdie entered a restaurant in which I was eating, I said, ‘I would probably call up Ayatollah Khomeini'”.

        Yes, Muslims are individuals, like everyone else. But they all follow a creed that teaches utter savagery. Any Muslim who takes his faith seriously *is* a danger to unbelievers.

        • mousey says

          Apr 17, 2017 at 11:46 pm

          it is a sorry state when the peace train is lured into such a self-righteous station. Converts….are converts i guess. I hastily made the list as discussions fly by on this site.

          But i focused on Nahid Afrin, and bashar al assad, not converts.

          In a recent debate on indian tv on nahid and the fatwas one woman, muslim i think, says: Even if islam teaches it then we must not accept that part of islam. We must reject bad parts of islam and accept the good parts…” Another woman calls the clerics bullies and says she’s proud of nahid for saying “you don’t get to decide whether i’m a good muslkim or not. I’m a good muslim, and i can be a good muslim by singing. I use music to reach god.”

          Don’t empower those not connected to god by saying they are the ones taking faith seriously. No, i believe the girl with the angelic voice who sings to please god is the faithful one and should be recognized as such.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 4:44 pm

          mousey wrote:

          it is a sorry state when the peace train is lured into such a self-righteous station. Converts….are converts i guess. I hastily made the list as discussions fly by on this site.
          ………………………………….

          mousey, I’m afraid your impression that it is only converts who take the oppressive creed of Islam seriously is quite mistaken. Was the Ayatollah Khomeini, who put out the Fatwa on Rushdie in the first place, a convert?

          More:

          But i focused on Nahid Afrin, and bashar al assad, not converts.
          ………………………………….

          Nahid Afrin is a sixteen year old girl. The idea that she is more knowledgeable about Islam than are the clerics who are putting Fatwas out on her is a bit questionable.

          You and I would, no doubt, much prefer Nahid’s music-friendly vision of Islam–but I’m afraid there are few things more clear in Islam than its hatred of music.

          Singing and playing music are condemned in the Qur’an, in the Hadith, and by the grim “Prophet” himself. One such passage reads, “Allah will pour molten lead into the ears of those who listen to a songstress”.

          More:

          In a recent debate on indian tv on nahid and the fatwas one woman, muslim i think, says: Even if islam teaches it then we must not accept that part of islam. We must reject bad parts of islam and accept the good parts…” Another woman calls the clerics bullies and says she’s proud of nahid for saying “you don’t get to decide whether i’m a good muslkim or not. I’m a good muslim, and i can be a good muslim by singing. I use music to reach god.”
          ………………………………….

          That’s lovely–but the texts of Islam specifically say that Muslims cannot reject any part of Islam, or consider it bad.

          More:

          Don’t empower those not connected to god by saying they are the ones taking faith seriously. No, i believe the girl with the angelic voice who sings to please god is the faithful one and should be recognized as such.
          ………………………………….

          mousey, acknowledging what Islam is does not empower it–being in denial about what it is does.

          Here are some cases of pious Muslims enforcing the ban on music in Islam:

          “Islamic jihadists burn musician’s piano because music is un-Islamic”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/islamic-jihadists-burn-musicians-piano-because-music-is-un-islamic

          “Canada: Mandatory music class is haram”

          https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/09/canada-mandatory-music-class-is-haram

          In fact, pious Muslims have murdered musicians.

          I hope Ms. Afrin can go on singing her music, which seems like very sweet and upbeat stuff from what I have heard. But then, we are not the ones threatening her–orthodox Muslims are.

          It is vitally important that we recognize the threat of Islam if we are going to be able to defend ourselves against it.

      • carol says

        Apr 18, 2017 at 1:43 am

        Mousey…Muslim “individualists” are primarily the long-buried kind (peace be upon them). Islam=Sharia=Submission. They won’t kick them out but will squash them in place as it suits them (so it’s best to lie low). Total attention must go to the ever so serious issue of Allah and the “industry” his henchman Moe has created for various and sundry daddy figures. Frivolities like music, singing, philosophy, romance, marital love etc.are distractions and have the potential to lead one away from the all-consuming brainwashing (Darryl’s link helped clear up one confusion for me – the grandiose music which accompanies their saccharine “religious” videos IS acceptable since such music supposedly lead TO rather than away from the man in the sky). This leads me to another thought – have you ever heard of the Islamic “heaven” including the reuniting with loved ones? Christians greatly look forward to this but it seems in the Islamic system they dear departed are not so cherished. Could it be that during their lifetimes they were also seen as “distractions” from the Allah-prostration?

        I think IQ is “coming from a different place” than you. He’s from Iraq and has seen the worst of it and is convinced matters are urgent. When he says things like “Every Muslim is therefore a hair trigger Time Bomb primed to go off” it shocks us (as we hope to see attitudes similar to our own developing within modern Muslims). He’s not the only “insider” however to see a strange “duality” within reasonably well-schooled Muslims – another “insider” and psychological expert, Dr. Tawfik Hamid “Inside Jihad”, has called this mental Jekyll and Hyde phenomena a form of “cognitive dissonance”. He too claims there is an “on and off” switch coexisting within the Muslim mind (sometimes unconsciously) and it’s a real shock to outsiders when they see it. I think it likely that IQ has personally witnessed this phenomena. We can gain rare insight from “insiders”.

        • Michael says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 3:07 am

          Carol, I didn’t know IQ is from Iraq. I have always found his — and your — posts very interesting, helpful, passionate, knowledgeable — and I believe what he says.

          And yes, Darryl’s link on music was very insightful. Anything that stirs any emotion, other than for murder or for praising Allah (piss be on him), distracts from the ONLY goal: murdering infidels. And stealing from them and living off of them as long as the dhimmis are allowed to live.

          The only emotion that appears to be sanctioned in Islam — well, there are two: fear, and varying degrees of fear, from mild fear to abject terror … and hate. There is no love. No kindness. No compassion, understanding, anything close to tolerance that is part of a civilized world.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 18, 2017 at 4:51 pm

          Agreed, Carol and Michael. Goods posts.

    • Hari Singh says

      Apr 17, 2017 at 1:13 am

      The Shias are Alawaite Muslims as is Basshar Assad Syria’s president. The Sunnis are rebels most probably Al-Nusarat, Al Quaida or ISIS. Fighting Assad puts people on the side of ISIS

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 18, 2017 at 4:57 pm

        Hari Singh, the Shia are not Alawites. The Alawites are a much smaller splinter sect. Most Shi’ites do not regard Alawites as true Muslims at all.

  2. jack cade says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    Is it Islamophobic to say “Who gives a rat’s patootie?”

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 17, 2017 at 7:45 pm

      Ha! Good point!

      And we don’t care if it is called “Islamophobic” by some Islamo-Ignorant idiot, anyway!

  3. Oliver says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    So, if these were pro-Assad, then (probably) pro-Iran and pro-Hezbollah.

    So, will Hezbollah retaliate?

    My guess- yes. When- who knows.

    But, would probably be better if Hezbollah and al-queida and ISIS and the 100 or so other groups went head to head- . (Note the 100 plus- from a John Kerry “peace initiative”). And they wiped each other out.

  4. gravenimage says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    Alas, Muslims slaughtering other Muslims–other-sect Muslims, as here, or the “insufficiently Islamic”–is mainstream Islam.

  5. abad says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 7:08 pm

    In short, Muslim-on-Muslim crime is the norm even acceptable but “Islamophobia” well the latter is a far more serious “threat” to Islam.

  6. dragaozao says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    Mister President, who is going to be bombed this time?

  7. Stan Lee says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 9:10 pm

    We can all waste time philosophizing the differences between Shia and Sunni, and all of the facts brought up become one fact only; they are all a disgusting lot, with no value for life. They live for death, theirs or those they decide must be murdered. The next wholesale execution will be for Shia revenge.

  8. Tony says

    Apr 16, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    Interesting Black-on-black crime and Moslem-on-Moslem crime maybe that is why so many Blacks are attracted to Molsem-Brotherhood. Birds of a feather flock together or monkey see monkey do take your pick as to which is more relevant phrase!

    • abad says

      Apr 17, 2017 at 7:22 am

      Bingo

  9. Troybeam says

    Apr 17, 2017 at 8:02 am

    Not all Muslims are terrorists, here the problem with that statement and why “WE THE PEOPLE” ARE SUCKER PUNCHED by it. Here’s a brief on Jihad in sharia law, book ref. below.

    1.Jihad is required by every single Muslim.
    2. Muslims who are fighters: held in high esteem
    3.ALL NON-FIGHTING MUSLIMS, perform jihad by SUPPORTING THE FIGHTER.

    Here is where people become confused, the fighters are openly waging war, the non fighter is behind the scenes and appear non threatening which is what they are supposed to do to confuse the non Muslim into thinking not all Muslims are bad people, however the sharia law stated once again demands that ALL MUSLIMS PERFORM JIHAD, jihad is not just the violent aspects of battle, the fighter needs a network or chain to access the materials needed, he needs room and board, he needs transportation, medical care, the whole aspects of jihad demand that everyone participate to reach the ultimate goal.

    Book Ref. Reliance of the Traveller: Islamic Sacred Law:aka sharia, chapter on Jihad

    • IQ al Rassooli says

      Apr 17, 2017 at 8:56 am

      Troybeam

      WRONG! Just because not all Muslims blow themselves up does not mean they are not terrorists

      In fact your very statements prove how WRONG you are since ALL of them are JIHADIS. To prove my point~

      SPEAR OF JIHAD

      There is only ONE version of Islam and or Muslims called FUNDAMENTALIST.

      There are no SHADES in Islam such as Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist Muslims. Islam is Islam just as there were never Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist Nazis or Communists.

      All Muslims are Jihadists. ALL of them; because they are all following one book: Muhammad’s Quran

      Al Baqara 2.216: “Jihad (holy fighting in Allah’s Cause) is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.”

      Sahih Muslim Hadith 4631 & 4626 Abu Huraira
      “I heard Muhammad say: … I love that I should be killed in Allah’s Cause [Jihad]; then I should be brought back to life and be killed again in Jihad.'”

      Sahih Al-Bukhari Hadith 4.50 Narrated by Anas bin Malik
      “The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause {Qital fi Sabil Allah} (JIHAD) is better than the world and whatever is in it.'”

      I use Muslims to indicate all those who are followers of Muhammad and are Sharia Compliant because they are the ones who constitute the Spear of Jihad or the Sword of Islam.

      Islamic Jihad has two intertwined components:

      1. War Jihadis are represented by the Head of the spear of Islam

      2. Stealth Jihadis are the so called Moderate Muslims (the Silent Majority) who are represented by the Shaft of the spear of Islam

      The Stealth Jihadis are the ones who supply the War Jihadists with Finance, Weapons, Intelligence, Shelter, Propaganda, Protection and Deception. They are of course family, friends and other Muslims.

      Neither tip nor shaft of the spear are by themselves deadly; BUT tip and shaft together constitute a weapon of death and destruction.

      Hence it is irrelevant how many Muslims are War Jihadis (whether 5%, 10% or 20% of Muslims) because the remaining Stealth Jihadis (95%, 90% or 80%) are the ones who silently but diligently back them up.

      IQ al Rassooli
      Kafir & Proud!

      • Troybeam says

        Apr 17, 2017 at 2:35 pm

        What left field are you aiming at, re-read my comment then go read Relaince of the Traveller chapter on Jihad, that should clear it up.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 18, 2017 at 5:00 pm

        Troybeam and IQ al Rassooli, I think you are actually both saying the same thing. 🙂

  10. Westman says

    Apr 17, 2017 at 10:00 am

    “No one is maligning the name of your country or religion. We ourselves are bringing a bad name to our country and religion,” – Malala Yousafzai.

    In this instantly-connected world, Muslims are killing respect for Islam at a rate even a leftist cannot deny. Infidel Polls, worldwide, show a majority negative view of Islam. Ibrahim Hooper (CAIR) must lie awake at night with a nagging sense that all is being lost through the bad behavior of the Ummah brothers without realizing he is part of a living anachronism.

    “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.” – Ibrahim Hooper (CAIR)

    Islam is like a man carrying a flashlight in the dark who thinks what he can see is the extent to which he is being observed. Billions of eyes, with disgust, are watching Islam

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 17, 2017 at 7:54 pm

      They don’t care unless those billions do something to stop the Caliphate.

  11. Florida Jim says

    Apr 17, 2017 at 10:10 am

    Three year old muslims are taught hatred in their schools and on TV first it is Jews, then Westerners, then Americans, then Sunnis, then then Shiites, then the other 85 sects lurking in every muslim country. If the word Caliphate comes up RUN it is the beginning of Sharia, Jihad and Taqiyya then beheading of anyone not in their sect even if muslim.They must be deported and live among other muslims to have them kill each other rather than us.Do not believe otherwise no matter what they say they lie easily and are well-practiced.

  12. gravenimage says

    Apr 17, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    So true, RCH.

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