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“Trump supports terrorism” “Death to America, death to Israel!” Hundreds in Damascus protest US strike

Apr 11, 2017 9:09 am By Robert Spencer

“Trump supports terrorism”? These protesters are aware of what I have pointed out here, that a weakening of the Assad regime redounds to the benefit only of the Islamic State and other Sunni jihad groups. On the other hand, these protesters were chanting “Death to America, death to Israel,” because the Assad regime is a client of the Islamic Republic of Iran, which has made these chants the symbol and centerpiece of its foreign policy. There are simply no good guys in this conflict. The Trump administration has to decide which is the lesser evil: Assad, who is obscenely evil but has never threatened strikes in the U.S. or made any attempt to mount any, and who has protected Christians in Syria (who have been brutalized and murdered by jihad groups opposing Assad), but which is backed by Iran, whose leaders have repeatedly vowed to destroy U.S. power in the world, or the Islamic State, which is obscenely evil and has both threatened and carried out strikes in the U.S. Probably aiding neither side in any way would be the most prudent course.

“Hundreds in Syria capital protest US strike,” AFP, April 11, 2017:

Hundreds of Syrian students gathered on Tuesday outside the United Nations headquarters in Damascus to protest last week’s US strike on a government air base.

Demonstrators waved the two-star flag of the Syrian government and pictures of President Bashar al-Assad outside the UN’s office in the Mazzeh neighbourhood of the Syrian capital.

Their placards read “Iraq will not happen again, this is Assad’s Syria,” and “Trump supports terrorism.”

Some protesters chanted, “Death to America, death to Israel!”

US warships on Friday fired 59 Tomahawk missiles at a central Syrian air base from which Washington believes government jets launched a chemical attack that killed at least 87 civilians.

The Syrian government denied that it used toxic substances, saying it struck an arms depot used by militias and describing the US strike as “foolish and irresponsible behaviour”.

“We came to denounce the American strike,” said Ayyad Talab, head of the university students’ branch in the National Syrian Students Union (NSSU), which organised the protest.

“We want to say that we are ready to defend our country, armed with our work, our minds, and our ideas and with our souls if necessary,” he told AFP.

The NSSU submitted a letter, addressed to UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, that the United Nations mission in Damascus said it would forward to his office.

“We came to condemn the American aggression on our country. We consider it a disgrace to the democracy that America claims,” protester Mahmoud Issa told AFP.

The US retaliatory strike marked the first time the United States has intervened directly in the Syrian war against Assad’s government….

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  1. R Russell says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:16 am

    Who will protect the few remaining Christians if Assad is deposed/killed?

    • Tom says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 9:41 am

      It certainly is a mire of entangled loyalties and there are no good guys involved in that conflict, there are victims though, and those are the Christians trapped and forced to rely on Assad for protection.

      If the world had the guts to stand up and offer sanctuary to the minorities involved in this conflict, instead of opening its borders to muslim males in their hundreds of thousands, who are cowardly fleeing this conflict, and other similar conflicts, then perhaps the Muslim invasion of the west could have been avoided.

    • mortimer says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 9:46 am

      Assad is actually committing a genocide against the Sunnites.

      • Allan Mandrowski says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 11:23 am

        He is not. False flag chemical attacks to get US involved. Assad is the legitimate government of Syria and all was good over there until we had to meddle in their affairs once again.

        Everywhere the US gets involved in the Middle East it is Christians who end being eradicated.

        Christianity is being wiped out from the ME and we the United States are complicit since we fund and support these sunni savages who are murdering Christians and others wholesale.

        • salim says

          Apr 11, 2017 at 12:47 pm

          Spot on. The influence of governments and media on people amazes me.

        • Michael says

          Apr 11, 2017 at 5:07 pm

          From reading I have done, Christianity is the one serious stumbling block to one world government. So destruction of Christians is critical to their plans. It is the only thing that explains how Christians. the truly persecuted group in the Middle East, have been ignored and left behind, and, as Tom pointed out, in their stead, young Muslim males are sent to conduct their hijra, and rape, murder, and steal in the countries they invade.

          Eradication of Christianity, and we will see eradication of civilization as we know it.

          In ways, what is happening seems very transparent. Yet it is so difficult for most to believe, that they simply will not accept that their ‘leaders’ want their death and conquest.

        • Alula says

          Apr 12, 2017 at 8:25 am

          Asad protected christians and other yazidi miniority,why tramp bombarded syria in order to appease saudi atabia and for the benefit of oil.

        • Keith Jordan says

          Apr 12, 2017 at 2:26 pm

          I certainly don’t believe “all was good over there”. Are you ignorant enough to honestly believe that, or are you lying?

      • TL says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 6:29 pm

        Mortimer, that’s impossible. “Sunnites” is not the name of a genome or of a race.

        • Felix Quigley says

          Apr 13, 2017 at 3:57 am

          Do not be so hard on Mortimer. He and Wellington fought so hard to defend the Serbs against the Izetbegovic savage Jihad (sarcasm intended)

      • Peggy says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 10:21 pm

        Care factor 0.

    • DFD says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:30 am

      R Russell says: “Who will protect the few remaining Christians if Assad is deposed/killed?”

      NOBODY!

    • LilyDarcey says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 4:56 pm

      Amen. What happen when we dethroned Hussein, will happen if Assad is dethroned. The insurgents will take over and put in place a leader like that of Iraq.

      https://www.spartareport.com/2017/04/walid-shoebat-claims-chemical-attack-in-syria-may-have-been-a-false-flag/

    • steve1 says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:34 pm

      Trump: ‘We’re not going into Syria’ 4/11/17

      Jihadists are gonna be sore about this developement

  2. David wilson says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:26 am

    It’s difficult to argue with that sign, and no explanation whatsoever to those who elected him

  3. Adrian says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:36 am

    “Probably aiding neither side in any way would be the most prudent course.”

    But perhaps, if it in fact is 6 of 1, half dozen of the other, Trump is using this relatively simple act to advance a higher global game against the Russians and Iran than what is immediately apparent…

    (Just like had Trump come out foursquare to make Garland Texas attacks a major issue, that might have created too much buzz against him in today’s current political climate?.. Trump picks his battles)

    i would say be not so quick to judge…

  4. salim says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:45 am

    I have great respect to Robert but I disagree with him when he says:
    {There are simply no good guys in this conflict. The Trump administration has to decide which is the lesser evil}

    There is a massive difference between the terrorist Islamic groups and the government forces. Assads have been in power since 1970 and the Syrians were OK with it, I didn’t see much difference between Syria and the neighbouring countries in the Middle East. If any thing, the Syrians were moving slowly towards islamisation compared to others, and largely because of the Syrians employed in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf.

    As to the cry death to Israel/America, trust me all Arabs do that whether with Iran or against it. In the Middle East its like talking about the weather. They all believe both countries should die but of course it had to come to surface in Syria because of the American bombs/missiles.

    My view: Assad happens to be AGAINST Islamic expansion and we have a duty to support him, or at least NOT to stand against his forces. Our main enemy is Islamic expansion and we must keep that in mind.

    May I add that the Ba’ath party, which controls Syria and which I don’t like, was originally a Christian party founded by Michele Aflaq.

    Churchill once said: If Hitler invades Hell, I make sure to make a good reference to the Devil in the house of commons.

    • mousey says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 7:31 pm

      assad is of alawite faith:
      I don’t think the sunnis think the alawites are muslim at all becasue they apparently mix in a lot of christianity and neoplantonism etc. They believe in a triad. They don’t build mosques. They don’t say the same prayers as sunni and shia, or pray 5 times a day, They have a different understanding of the koran. They believe in reincarnation. They celebrate christmas and the epiphany and the zorastrian new year. they drink wine. The crusaders ended up leaving them alone because they didn’t consider them muslim. The alawites back in the earlyish 20th c wanted to stay under french rule. They’re secretive.

      • Demsci says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 10:30 pm

        I like what you tell us about the Alawites. And of course I like them protecting the Christians. And also I like the Kurds.

        BUT Bashar Al Assad is by now almost totally a puppet of his Russian and Iranian masters, without whom his regime could not survive. And they seem hell bent on reconquering all of Syria or all of Syria that matters; all the big cities and adjacent territory.

        So because Aleppo is badly isolated I think they aim to reconquer IDLIB, where the chemical bomb fell.

        But with Their strategy they are bound to hurt and antagonize or subjugate all too many Sunnite Syrians (although Iran seems to be planning to replace Sunnite with Shiite citizens (says Goldman in PJMedia!).

        So, it seems PARTITION of Syria is a good idea to pursue, based on maps of Syria with the current spheres of influence.

        To let there be a Western Alawite State, giving Russia it’s warmwater port. But also a Kurdish independent State (despite Turkish protests) and some third part for the Sunnite rebels (and NOT because of their non-existent pro Western outlook, but against Iranian influence).

        Maybe parts adjacent to Turkish Hatay province (idlib) and Golan/ Jordan in the south. ISIS territory may also be suited for this third part.

        • Peggy says

          Apr 11, 2017 at 11:00 pm

          BUT Bashar Al Assad is by now almost totally a puppet of his Russian and Iranian masters, without whom his regime could not survive
          =======================
          You said it, without whom his regime could not survive. Do you blame him?
          Anyway why do you call him a puppet? He is no different to puppets of the west. That’s the game and they all play it.

  5. kessler says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:51 am

    As per article, why is Assad “obscenely evil”?
    Which of the attacks on civilians have been confirmed as being ordered by Assad?
    Pre-Arab spring – yes, Assad ruled the country with an iron fist, but as history show – this is necessary to keep Islamism at bay. Pre-Arab spring, Syria was peaceful and religious minorities had a future thanks to his secular government.
    He is fighting for the survival of his country – it is not done by negotiations and talks – the Islamists don’t care. He knows what is at stake and persists in spite of the entire world turning against him. He knows the future for Alawites, Christians and other minorities is gone if the rebels/islamists win – it will be a Sunni-led Sharia state.
    There is the Iran/Shia angle to this situation, and indeed, Iran is the big satan. But if Assad’s motivation for fighting is to restore peace and survival of his people – and I have no reason to think this is not the case – he deserves our support and respect. So does Russia.
    And Trump needs a reality check – Western forces meddling in Muslim affairs NEVER results in peace and democracy. It will be yet another disaster costing billions.
    How he can ignore the need for an unbiased investigation of the chemical attack and jump to conclusions is beyond me. He had higher hopes for him.

    • kessler says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 9:53 am

      “I had higher hopes for him” 🙂

    • salim says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:32 am

      Assad is one of the most secular (actually the only one left) and best educated leaders in Middle East. Before his country was destabilised (by western powers) Syria was ruled in a similar way, more or less, to other Arab countries. We cannot say “he ruled his country with iron fist” and stop because all Arab countries are ruled that way, if not worse.

      It makes no sense to claim Assad is a tyrant and at the same time meet the leaders of Saudi Arabia and Jordan. That is double standards because they are all tyrants.

      Lastly, none of the crimes attributed to Assad has been confirmed, including the last one which I don’t believe to have taken place even if America brings evidence, because it doesn’t make sense at all.

      • Demsci says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 10:52 pm

        Good informative analysis and insight. OK then, Assad is secular, has to protect Alawites, Christians, a bit like Saddam who also did that.

        But I am sick and tired of the racism of low expectations. I am in favor of single standards for both the West and the “East”. And while the West is rightly scrutinized and criticized, why can’t we hold these Saddams and Assads accountable in exactly the same way as the West is held accountable?

        Muslims are also adult sane humans, often well educated. And they often make bad and stupid mistakes in their policies. Or are consciously antagonizing better more democratic policies of Western nations.

        Both Saddam and Assad “f…c..d” things up. Assad helps that devilish Iran, he sent terrorists into Iraq against American troops. He always was hostile to democracy and democratic nations, never wanted to make peace with Israel, and of course did murder/ torture and intimidate people (although the Saudi’s and Egyptian governments etc did this as well, but it is not what the Democratic Nations do).

        Blame HIM for HIS shortcomings and mistakes, which greatly helped the Jihadi’s, be it from the Shiite or the Sunnite variant. He is firmly in the camp of dictatorial enemies of democracy and democratic nations. AND him being a sane adult well educated human with choices to make and accountable for them.

        • Demsci says

          Apr 12, 2017 at 3:34 am

          Joan C,

          There is this concept that The Western People when judging their own and other people do judge their own on much higher standards then they do the other peoples, especially Muslims. I am so sick and tired of this as it is so often done by leftists and political corrects.

          These people will protest against pres. Trump for anti-woman behavior but they won’t protest against Shariah law and the rampant mysoginy among Muslims. That ‘s blatant use of double standards.

          And why??? It puzzles me always. But it seems to boil down to the racism or discrimination (I know Muslims are no race) of lower expectations. And I got this concept from Ayaan Hirsi Ali. And she is 100 % ISLAMO-AWARE and I am pretty close by now to that.

          think about it; when 2 sorts of people do the same misdeeds/ stupidities, but onlookers only chastise the 1 group (US) and leave the other group (Muslims) almost entirely alone, is this because the 1st group is guilty and the 2nd innocent? NOOOO.

          When onlookers see humans commit crimes/ stupidities and then protest/ blame that is because they assume that humans could and should behave better, that they have choices.

          But when babies, mad people or animals commit the very same deeds, then onlookers are wise enough NOT to blame, as these babies, mad people, animals will never improve and have choices.

          And now it looks like those damned leftists but also many other onlookers seem to consider the Westerners as sane adult humans but as they stay silent when the Muslims do the same bad/ stupid deeds they in effect treat these Muslims different, namely as choiceless, hopeless people, like babies, mad people or animals.

          THAT was what I was referring about and I myself have tried to inform many such leftists about the very same verses you point to, but they would not even let me finish and would have none of my criticism of Islam and the responsibility of Muslims.

          But they cannot for a second maintain that Muslims are “Innocent angels”, so I see these Leftists as treating the Muslims as incapable of change. But their criticism of fellow Westerners is rampant, so I see their view of their own people as them being capable of change. So leftists have much higher expectations of their own people than they have of Muslims. It seems to me and I am sick and tired of it.

      • Demsci says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 10:59 pm

        This is about my attempt to exonerate Trump as best I can. By laying responsibility to the warped bad behavior of all the other big players against which he has to respond responsibly and with the knowledge that doing nothing often is the “worst reaction choice”.

        And also in a democratic context in which he held fully accountable but also in which he is often really consciously supported by a majority of parliaments and people AND ALLIES.\

        While the dictatorial adversaries depend on much more propaganda and censorship and suppression of their populations and much less on real accountability holding and real deep felt conscious support of their people.

        • Peggy says

          Apr 11, 2017 at 11:05 pm

          This is about my attempt to exonerate Trump as best I can. By laying responsibility to the warped bad behavior of all the other big players against which he has to respond responsibly and with the knowledge that doing nothing often is the “worst reaction choice”.
          ========================
          I get that but don’t you think that Assad has the same challenges? Maybe worse and nobody wants to know that.
          Yes, we in the west can raise our voices against the establishment (for now) but more and more we are silenced by laws against this or that and even if not are we making a difference?
          Seems to me that electing Trump hasn’t made a change. It looks like globalists are still in charge so what’s the point of being able to speak up? What does that achieve in the end?

        • Demsci says

          Apr 12, 2017 at 3:47 am

          Peggy,

          Oh I do see what you mean. On 1st inspection you seem right.

          But I still consider the full Democratic system one of the best inventions of mankind!
          The 5 pillars of Democracy are:

          Separation of church and State (the democratic people do this, the Muslims don;t),
          – Fair elections.
          – autonomy of the individual
          – freedom of speech (this is much better and total guaranteed by Democratic people than by Muslims). In dictatorships like Assads and Putins, and in most Islamic states, domestically the freedom of speech is destroyed by governments’ censorship, propaganda and suppression. So these governments skew the game, “play false”. But pres. Trump has a very intact and vocal domestic opposition which he does not censor or suppress. He plays fair.

          – and the RULE OF LAW, also over the very heads of state. But in Islam AND in dictatorships like those of Assad AND Putin it seems clear to me that they behave as if they stand ABOVE the law. But Donald Trump and all western leaders, they are subject to the law.

          So I am very much pro-Democracy and anti-Dictatorships. And Islam favors the dictatorships too much. But to replace the one dictatorship with the other is no good. But then again I do now some of these dictatorships will have to be tolerated.

    • underbed cat says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 2:45 pm

      I think I agree. I think Assad was fighting off Islamization and the muslims who wanted to bring sharia law and get it established in his country. The Syrian population who cry he is a terrorist leader because Assad was fighting sharia in Islam. So part of the muslim population would fight against him to bring sharia and some allied with him knowing the brutality of jihad to bring sharia. It is reported he has saved many Christians and unbelievers since he is not accepted as a true Muslim. He fought the civilians and foreign invaders who were fighting for sharia and had to do so to protect what his citizens, Christians and himself against this law. As horrible as the gas attack was I hope he will figure out this situation before redress since it played into the terror groups hands to attack Assad, but it was limited to send a message. Just hope the jihadist does not feel emboldened, that the U.S. does not support Assad..
      Isis used children in gruesome ways if they had children in a warehouse with weapons….don’t trust all the information just yet.

      • underbed cat says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 2:58 pm

        Just to clarify I support Trump, only wished he had waited a bit to get all information since it is a civil was with the embedded enemy to give the details…hopefully he had the truth.

  6. Tom says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 9:57 am

    It is unfortunate that the Obama years were such a failure in allowing Russia, Iran, China and North Korea to become so emboldened because they perceived the USA to be so weak under Obama. ISIS and other muslim terror groups, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, used those 8 years of a lack of leadership in the world to entrench themselves in our western countries to attack us through direct terror, killing and maiming innocent civilians, and subversively through our political systems, which has resulted in the chaos and anarchy we see displayed throughout the west today.

    Perhaps Trump’s reasserting the USA into the least inflammatory conflict, Syria, is sending a strong message to all of the above named that the spread of totalitarianism and Islamic dictatorship must end.

    The buck stops here and now !!

    • Demsci says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 4:13 am

      Hear, hear, I see it this way too, Tom.

    • Michael says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 4:21 am

      i actually think that Obama would consider his 8 years a tremendous success.

      the arming of Iran. the weakening of the US. the influx of immigration, illegal and legal, into the US to our demise. I’m sure he looked with delight, along with Merkel, at the flood of immigrants from the Middle East into Europe, and the continued work in progress of turning Europe into Eurabia.

      Obama is a Muslim. He very likely supports the Muslim Brotherhood.

      Remember that Huma Abedin’s father is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood … her mother writes books endorsing clitorectomies for women everywhere … this was Hillary’s right hand woman. Obama, Hillary, Abedin …

      Obama had to be mightily pleased with himself.

      How does Trump handle all of this? God be with him … wise advisors with him … his strength to resist the globalists who surround him at every turn.

  7. Kiel says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:33 am

    ISIS seems to be those eliminated. Assad is rightly undisputed evil but at least he just kills his compatriots. I’ll recommend, that the US Warmachine sits back and watch those bastards finishes off each other.

  8. Vlad says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:55 am

    The enemy of my enemy is a friend of mine, or at least a temporary ally.
    I think there is no doubt that Islamism is our archenemy.
    Assad, good or evil, is the only one who resolutely fights ISIS in Syria. The inference is obvious.
    Quod Erat Demonstrandum.

    • Demsci says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 4:38 am

      Sound reasoning, but put yourself in the shoes of the Israeli’s;

      If “the enemy of your enemy is your friend or at least de facto ally” and you have identified TWO huge enemies, which moreover in future might combine to assault YOU,

      what remains is to determine which of the 2 “evil empires or groupings” is the more immediate dangerous one.

      And what with an Hezbollah armed to the teeth and by now very battle hardened and moreover an Iran marching towards nuclear capability,

      The idea can be argued that it is Assad, helping Iran and Hezbollah, who is the BIGGER EVIL. And then, Vlad, it is the Sunnite rebels who are the makeshift ‘allies”, for now.

      • Vlad says

        Apr 12, 2017 at 6:16 am

        Well, it never occured to me to put myself in the shoes of the Israelis, why should I?
        But i can see your point here, Demsci. The logical problem is that to identify the most immediate threat, in a continuously and rapidly changing geopolitical landscape, is not that simple. And with all due respect, but the Israelis, although valiantly fighting the Islamist threat in their own country, have never been and will never be a reliable ally to anyone but themselves.
        The Israel-Saudi Arabia relations have always been excellent, to say the least.
        We all know very well what crucial role plays Saudi Arabia with regard to the worldwide Jihad

  9. Allan Mandrowski says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:24 am

    Assad is the legitimate government of Syria and all was good over there until we had to meddle in their affairs once again.

    Everywhere the US gets involved in the Middle East it is Christians who end being eradicated. Assad protects minorities. Sunnis murder them.

    Christianity is being wiped out from the ME and we the United States are complicit since we fund and support these sunni savages who are murdering Christians and others wholesale.

  10. DFD says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 11:58 am

    Assad will not allow himself to be controlled, by anyone.

    He can however be **influenced**! He tried several times to get close with the west, and we snubbed him. Sure, he would not be a model democrat, far from it. However, he holds Islam (the Sunnis) down, and no minorities are being persecuted. Instead, they flourish.

    What have we to lose in accepting him, and, partially, integrating him? NOTHING! To gain, to win? A LOT!

    OK, there’s that Russian naval base in Latakia, but that’s all. It’s incidentally the only external Russian military base in existence. We, the west, that is the US and NATO, have Russia surrounded with dozens upon dozens of military bases. So, that wont change any power balance, which is strongly in the west’s favor. However, our influence on him would increase, whilst Russia’s (and Iran’s!) influence would correspondingly decrease! We have a lot more to offer than Russia and Iran ever can – and Assad is savvy, very savvy and smart. He has been educated and lived in the west, not in Russia.

    Right, the downside of this would be that S. Arabia, Qatar and the western oil companies would have to pay for the oil & gas pipelines to run through Syria, and the terminal on Syrian soil would remain Syrian, instead of becoming “something international”. But that’s all. Why is that so bad? The west has and does accept conditions from gulf countries that are much worse.

    We sure would gain a very, very useful ally against Islam/Wahabbism etc.

    Instead, Trump acts upon a very, extremely dubious gas attack carried out with a gas that Assad doesn’t manufacture or have, but Turkey (friend/ally of S. Arabia and Qatar) does. He is supposed to have used that gas on the very people who prayed for his troops to arrive, whilst that gas could also have drifted onto his own troops in the area. {I have to admit here that I don’t know how close his own troops were exactly}. Further, Assad who is a very smart operator, is so stupid to commit such an idiotic act whilst he is winning?!?!?

    Jesus Christ, can nobody connect the dots?

    • Vlad says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 12:47 pm

      You nailed it! If Assad had launched a gas attack on his own people he woud have risked a lot and gained nothing. He is not the kind of man who shoots his own toe. Not hard to see who profited by committing this atrocity. It’s really astonishing to see how many people can’t make a simple deduction.

    • Peggy says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:13 pm

      Some people don’t want to connect the dots because their extreme prejudices are in the way.

      Either Trump is that naïve and I can’t imagine he could be or he is under the influence of the Globalists. Hopefully this won’t last but if he’s ok with it then we are all in trouble.

      • Michael says

        Apr 12, 2017 at 12:19 am

        Peggy, as you well know, odds are very high he is under the control of globalists. I’m not sure what kind of President could withstand the forces that control things — if he ever intended to truly oppose them anyway. He is not, as you said, naive. At least I would be shocked if were actually were.

        Oppose the globalists? Not if he values his life. So many of us hoped, desperately, for someone who truly was for America as a sovereign nation. I still do. There are still positive signs.

        I also was fully aware that it was more likely a big con game. Somehow to con those on the right … I’m still puzzling over how. If the policies are pretty much in line with what has come before … then what was the need to have Trump in office? The right has been unfortunately fairly docile anyway. We don’t become violent — to date — when things have been going so far left.

        But to think that any person in that office can act against all the globalists … I won’t say we are naive. Desperately hopeful, I would say. It was that hope for real change that caused so many to support him. And we still do … and, too, we watch. Unlike the left, whose candidates can truly do no wrong, for us, he can do wrong. He is accountable. Whatever he does is NOT okay.

        He also feels like our last hope. I think of Star Wars … ‘you’re our only hope, Obi Wan’ …

        Our only hope is us … and we are up against the most formidable foes. Government doesn’t represent the people; it represents the money interests. It always has. Those who try to truly represent the people, make gestures in that direction, end up dead. Or they get in line. Really, how could it be otherwise? I say this not as a pessimist. I say we continue to fight, and hope many more wake up and join us. This is a battle that we the people will have to fight, and I hope win. Everything hangs in the balance. I hope I don’t sound melodramatic. It’s not intended to be. It’s a reality that I wish were otherwise, for all of us, for our children, our grandchildren.

        As a famous patriot said, ‘Live free or die.’

        • Demsci says

          Apr 12, 2017 at 5:16 am

          I do not exclude what you say, really I don’;t.

          It is just that ALSO the dictatorships can be in the pocket of these globalists. I let this sink in inside me.

          when a dictatorship is in the pocket of the globalists, then that dictatorships ruthlessly censors and suppresses all real dissent against globalism.

          But if in a democracy globalists are really in control, and if they continuously trick the vast majority of people with their propaganda,

          STILL, people like David Icke, Alex Jones of info wars and all those vehemently opposed to globalism are still just as vehemently protected with freedom of speech.

          So; Which are best nations? The democratic nations who might be in the pocket of globalists but STILL protect anti-globalist outlets OR

          Dictatorships who might well be also targeted and tricked by those conniving globalists into doing their bidding, who subsequently silence all opposition against globalism domestically?

          And keep in mind, the biggest objection to globalism is that globalism IS dictatorship. So it makes no sense to support Russian or other censoring and suppressing dictatorships against democratic nations.

          David Icke often asks “Qui bono?” “Who prophits”, like Cicero once did and this is brilliant of him.
          But to me David Icke’s thought error is him being so often praising and exonerating Russia and Muslims, dictatorships,

          while explicitly suggesting the Western governments are in collusion with the globalist dictators and deceiving mankind. In my view what good is it if “Predators defeat Aliens”, if they both want to subordinate us.

          And Icke could not contradict governments if he was residing in a dictatorial countriy so blatantly as he does in our own democratic nations. He, in essence, seems to pick on the easier, more peaceful, targets.

    • Demsci says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 4:49 am

      OK, sound reasoning, I really think so. But are you sure “we snubbed him” and that HE not “snubbed us?” I am inclined to suspect the latter! together with the Russians of course. But why can’t the Syrians and Russians not decide against the devilish Islamist regime in Tehran?! That indeed would be swell! Indeed, who cares about Russian warmwaterbases?

      Yes, I am sure we in the West could and should ally with both Assad and Putin, if only they themselves wanted this, perhaps after a reasonable partition of Syria. Maybe a little pressure will actually make them reconsider their alliances?!

      What I object against is the overall assumption, and I don’t say that YOU have this assumption, but others seem to have it; that only the West has choices and makes the wrong choices. No, to me time and again Assad and Putin, being so fully aware of the Islamic danger, makes these wrong choices!!!

  11. Ann says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    Assad was making the point that he is willing to kill Syrians not living in the territory controlled by him. We made the point that he may not do so using chemical warfare. I do not agree that we should let him violate laws banning chemical warfare because we oppose his enemy, Isis. He is our enemy as well. I strongly support Trump’s bombing the air field, but recognize that it means that we must be prepared to enforce the laws we are upholding when Assad, Russia, or Iran commit new atrocities. We must be as wise as snakes, and work with despicable agencies to achieve common goals, but not trust them at all.

    • Peggy says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:15 pm

      You’re easily fooled.

  12. Frank Verderber says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    The President is abscent from public perview and Tillison is in the mefia eye. All nationalistic options have become Global over night. Can’t we see a political coup when it stares us in the face.

  13. RCCA says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    Assad is like an incurable cancer which has utterly destroyed the people of Syria. It’s like the country is on life support with no chance of survival. The young men of Syria have seen the choices most clearly: Assad’s oppression, ISIS, or leave. They’ve left. Yes, I’m sure some of them are sleeper agents for ISIS but many seculars just want to have a life and there is no future for anyone in Syria until Assad is gone.

    Yes, this situation is a dangerous mess and Obama made it worse by leaving Iraq, and then left it for his successor to clean up. Trump is a realist, he sees that the US has to step up and lead. No, IMO Trump is not going to commit major US troops to the effort. I think the next step is to put pressure on Russia and why Rex Tillerson is going to Russia. Of course I don’t know what the deal is or how successful he will be, but that’s the next step. It’s not either or, Assad or ISIS, it’s get rid of both.

    Robert asked the other day why would we weaken the Syrian military when it is fighting ISIS? As if that’s happening. If the Syrian military is fighting ISIS then it must be the least effective military force in the entire world. The only thing they are capable of is terrorizing and controlling the civilian population. Notice that every major offensive against ISIS has been carried out by forces other than the Syrian military.

    • Steve Klein says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 7:59 pm

      “No, IMO Trump is not going to commit major US troops to the effort…..”

      UN Ambassador Nikki Haley says Assad has to go. Who will replace this brutal dictator? Islamic State? I can agree with the president, chemical weapons should not be used on civilians much less on dogs but if he is going to effect regime change in the same manner Bush did in Iraq and Obama did in Libya (and he tried to do in Egypt) that is going to be problematic, is it not?

  14. livingengine says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    “Assad, who is obscenely evil . . . ”
    I keep hearing this, but not sure what it is in reference to.
    What is it he has done that makes him so evil?

    • RCCA says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 3:52 pm

      I think he’s more inept and weak than obscenely evil. He was never supposed to be the ruler, his brother was, but his brother was killed in a car accident. Bashar was even interested in reforms but never strong enough to carry them through. I get the impression he is a figure head for a larger very corrupt family who is running Syria.

  15. Davegreybeard says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    “A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.” George S. Patton

    So what were the results of Trump’s action?

    He sent a message to the world that the use chemical weapons would not be tolerated.

    He took the air out of the Democrat’s false charge that he was in bed with Putin.

    He sent a message to the Chinese president, while entertaining him for lunch, that he was a man of action, not to be trifled with.

    He sent a message to North Korea that military action would come swift and sure if they stepped too far over the line.

    He sent a message to all tyrants of the world that he is not afraid to act.

    He sent a message to the world that he is a strong leader and not a panty waist like Obama.

    His political enemies, the Democrats, were left speechless, yet largely approved of the action.

    Most of the American public and the civilized world celebrated his action.

    The downside?

    Several commenters on Jihad Watch became confused and declared they no longer could support this wildly irrational man who is leading America to disaster.

    President Trump did indeed have a good plan, timely executed, with great vilolence.

  16. TL says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:49 pm

    America will reduce much of the world to tax slaves surrounded by piles of rubble and human bones if America’s money grubbers and bleeding heart militarists are not stopped. So there is a great need for a revolutionary party to bring about the overdue change of America’s ruling class. If bringing such a party to power means igniting a great civil war during which many of the approx 130m voters are killed, then so be it. Those voters keep the ruling class in power, usually voting for loot and unearnable privileges. They’ve had it coming for a very long time, and no one should shed a tear for them. Or for tax payers, who finance the bipartisan mafia and their goon state.

    • zoniek says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 7:16 pm

      You are an idiot.

      • Kris T says

        Apr 12, 2017 at 3:25 pm

        …..that’s what people often say when they have no logical, well thought-out rebuttal, or are simply wrong.

  17. Steve Klein says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    White House spokesman is making Mr. Spencer look good.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/328397-spicer-accidentally-says-trump-trying-to-destabilize-the-middle-east

    Spicer says Trump trying to ‘destabilize’ the Middle East

    BY NIKITA VLADIMIROV – 04/11/17 07:30 PM EDT

    ‘Spicer sorry for saying Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons’

    After drawing outrage for seeming to downplay Nazi crimes, Trump spokesman tells CNN he ‘mistakenly used inappropriate, insensitive reference to Holocaust’

    BY ERIC CORTELLESSA AND AP April 12, 2017, 2:07 am

    • Peggy says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:23 pm

      Spicer sorry for saying Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons’
      ————————–
      What does he call using gas then?

      • Michael says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 11:40 pm

        very good, and should be rhetorical, question, Peggy … my god. c’mon, people.

        i don’t know. sometimes it just seems somewhat insane to make these distinctions.

        so … what if Assad, or whoever it was, beheaded 100 children? would we then bomb Syria?

        what if they crucified 100 apostates? then do we bomb?

        why this big distinction? kill by a bullet, a sword, torture, crucifixion, stoning — it’s death. it’s murder.

        is one way of murdering, more acceptable than the other? is one so much more atrocious than the other, that we bomb that country? it seems in some ways self-righteous and pompous — perhaps self serving is more accurate — to go, ‘oh, he used chemical weapons! bomb him’ … when there is endless brutality by an incredible variety of means daily. and our ‘leaders’ don’t raise so much as an eyebrow.

        but wait! they used ‘chemical weapons’ — not a sword or stones or torture! finally, we can bomb someone! thank you for using chemical weapons! we have all these cruise missiles … finally! fire away!

        isn’t there absolute insanity in all of this?

        gravenimage posted, yesterday I think, in her ‘epic put down’ — a brilliant description of her work — to the Islam apologist, the post from a few years ago of I believe 90 gays who were stoned to death. If I have the details wrong, I apologize. it was quite a few stonings, all at one time.

        If they had been gassed, would that be justification? would we then have rushed in with bombs? but no, it was ‘just stoning.’ it wasn’t ‘as brutal.’ really?

        ‘international law’ forbids chemical weapons. But hey, you want to stone those kids to death? rape them, and THEN stone them to death? well, that’s not against international law, you see …

        why this demarcation in how we measure brutality? you are killing people, and brutalizing people, or you are not.

        If Trump wants to ‘destabilize’ Syria, isn’t that part and parcel of ‘the big plan’? As if Syria isn’t destroyed and destabilized enough? and of course send more refugees — young Muslim men — to Europe, and the US, to ‘escape’ the brutality. and to wage jihad.

        Where are the Christians who are being decimated? Where are they on the refugee list?

        my god, destabilize Syria — if that is not part and parcel of flooding Europe with ever MORE young Muslim me, to the utter ruin of Europe … what is?

        god I hold out just a bit of hope that Trump is different … but it appears we’ll see, very very shortly …..

        • Michael says

          Apr 11, 2017 at 11:46 pm

          and lest this come across wrong, I do not mean to endorse, or encourage, bombing at every instance of atrocities. it’s not that at all. it just seems so sanctimonious to use THIS — chemical weapons — as ‘the reason’ to bomb. We get all up in arms about chemical weapons — rightly so. it seems right that we would get all up in arms, as a nation, as a world, about the other atrocities being committed, daily … and on this board, we do.

          All of it makes me very skeptical and suspect of whatever is really going on with all of this. none of it seems good or right.

          i apologize if my frustration and anger at all of it comes out wrong.

  18. common sense says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 10:01 pm

    Mattis was in coherent about Islam. Is he lying here. Vlad certainly is a liar and a murdering theif.

    http://m.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-election-493995-493995/watch-mattis-has-no-doubt-alassad-15731071/

    • common sense says

      Apr 11, 2017 at 11:31 pm

      There is a lot of chatter about a pipeline or lack of one going through Syria. Remember Europe is increasingly dependent on Russian gas/oil. An already diminutive Russia would be further weakened if alternative sources fed Europe some of it’s energy needs.
      We need to look at this situation as an oppourtunity to strengthen our position against ISIS and in the middle east, not failure and lying. That was Obama’s mo. Trump knows he has the Mike Tyson knock out power.
      I Look at this as if I’m Trump not Obama and evaluate.” Push push push until we get what we want.” Or close.
      Russia would have went farther than Crimea had he military to do so, he couldn’t. NUKES are only a deterrent preventing invasion of Russia, he can have it.
      Assad- muslim-taqiyya. We are on JW right?
      Vlad said today, WE the US are going to plant false flags and that we planted this sairn gas attack as a false flag. He lied 3x about it now.

  19. Peggy says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 7:18 am

    Maybe this will explain a few things.

  20. Matthieu Baudin says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 9:06 am

    “…Probably aiding neither side in any way would be the most prudent course…”

    If the U.S. President has the resolve to make limited but painful strikes against the use of Nerve Gas, without getting caught up in a generalised condemnation of tactics used against armed Jihadi fanatics, then this, to my way of thinking, is the most prudent course. It’s important that the Syrian Goverment Military Forces are able to keep up their current momentum against ISIS and others, but the use of Gas and Biological Agents should be punished immediately. Syrian protesters might do well to contemplate their own welfare if chemical or biological agents were used against them by retreating Jihadi militants.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 10:54 am

      My own guess is that Trump was given information – game-changing information – about chemical weapons in Syria. (And Syria has done research into biologicals, as well, I understand, in the past).

      Assad won’t live forever. Even if the civil war had not broken out, with the Sunni Muslims feeling strong enough to try to topple the heretical Alawites, there was no guarantee that, so long as that stuff was there, it wouldn’t get – eventually – into the hands of out and out jihadis, once Assad *died* in the normal course of events, there being no guarantee that his successor would manage to keep a lid on things (Assad Junior manifestly failed to keep the lid on the pressure cooker as effectively as Assad Senior managed to do).

      Does anyone regret the Israeli strike that took out Syria’s little nuke project? Or the other strike, that took out Iraq’s nuke project a-borning? Those actions kept some seriously deadly possibilities just a little further away from Islamic State – or anything similar that could have arisen.

      Let’s hope that *this* strike is a ranging shot, so to speak; an object lesson, a message sent.

      That it is putting other ‘rogue actors’ on notice.

  21. Carolyne says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:00 am

    When one supports a political party or in this case a President, it is not possible to agree with everything he does. I believe he was wrong in bombing Syria. It is difficult to ascertain who is on which side in Syria and I believe we might have bombed the wrong side. Sen. John McCain, not one of the great minds of the century, said that he knew the rebels were not terrorists because they told him so over lunch.

    I’m not sure either side, or any side is worth supporting, but if I had to chose, I’d choose Assad because at least he was protecting minority religious groups. It is unclear, at least to me, who used poison gas. It might have been Assad, it might have been the rebels or ISIS. I just hope that Mr. Trump had indisputable evidence beyond doubt that Assad did it. I know that he was emotionally affected by the video of suffering children after the gas was released. He is a compassionate man. I just hope his actions were directed at the right people. I still support Mr. Trump.

    • Karen says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 5:47 pm

      Great post Carolyn.

    • Peggy says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 10:24 pm

      A president acting on emotion is not a good president. He has to keep a cool head, have indisputable evidence before he does anything.
      I don’t think he has that. I think he was pushed into this.
      If people like McCain are happy then you know you are doing something wrong.

      Funny, how the very people who are rejoicing and supporting him now wanted him dead just a few short months ago. They haven’t changed so it has to be him who has.

      This reminds me of the scenario when Democrats were insisting that Russia hacked into Hillary’s server and wanted payback but could never produce any evidence. Trump has paid out on Assad but cannot provide evidence and wants us to trust him because he says so.
      There is only one question to ourselves and that is who benefits from this.
      Assad certainly doesn’t and he is not a stupid man. He had the US and Russia supporting him so why would he need to gas the vary people who are welcoming him with open arms and enrage US?

      • Michael says

        Apr 12, 2017 at 10:44 pm

        Peggy, you’re right … as soon as McCain was for it, it’s like … um … this is NOT a good sign!

  22. common sense says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    Assad is a Muslim leader. Taqiyya is at play.
    We can only fathom the reasons Putin is in Syria.
    Fighting Syrian rebels is only a byproduct of whatever deal Assad and Putin made.

    • Peggy says

      Apr 12, 2017 at 10:15 pm

      Not much common sense there.
      Maybe you should learn more about Assad before your label him a Muslim leader.
      How do Russia and Assad cause this? Are you calling ISIS rebels?

  23. Karen says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    “There are simply no good guys in this conflict”.

    The perfect summary. Both sides make me sick.

  24. Peggy says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 10:14 pm

    Demsci says

    April 12, 2017 at 4:25 am

    When you put it that way, that moves me and makes me understand these protesters better, All the way to “death to America” (as we, in your hypothetical situation would be very angry at China).

    But ….. should not the pro-Assad people of Syria accept PARTITION?!
    ——————————-
    Why should they?

    The don’t want to accept partition of their country because it is all their country just like Serbia won’t accept partition of their country and let Kosovo become independent.
    If a relative who lives in your family home starts making problems for you, are you going to be happy to partition that house and reward him for bad behaviour?

    Would you accept a chunk of your country going to the Muslims because they are causing too much trouble in a certain area?
    Nobody would.

  25. Peggy says

    Apr 12, 2017 at 11:24 pm

    Demsci says

    April 12, 2017 at 3:47 am

    Peggy,

    Oh I do see what you mean. On 1st inspection you seem right.

    But I still consider the full Democratic system one of the best inventions of mankind!
    The 5 pillars of Democracy are:

    Separation of church and State (the democratic people do this, the Muslims don;t),
    – Fair elections.
    – autonomy of the individual
    – freedom of speech (this is much better and total guaranteed by Democratic people than by Muslims). In dictatorships like Assads and Putins, and in most Islamic states
    —————-

    I believe in all that too but it is nowhere to be found.
    How can elections be fair when we are bombarded with lies? Then we are intimidated into keeping our mouths shut because the “liberals” will fight us.
    We only have two parties to choose from and when you can’t tell one from the other we are in real trouble.
    So how is Putin any more of a dictator than the last few US presidents? Can we stop Trump from doing whatever he wants? We didn’t want this escalation to happen but he made it happen without any proof.
    This bunch of western leaders are more similar to Assad than you think, especially the EU. They are not even elected.
    Do the Europeans have any say in how their country is governed? NO. They are told and laws imposed on them. How is that a democracy?
    It’s only a matter of time when the Muslims are in charge in Europe and anyone who complains will end up in court. There goes the freedom of speech, what is left of it.

    What separation of state and church are you talking about? Muslims have infiltrated every level of our education system one way or another.

  26. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Apr 13, 2017 at 3:16 am

    robert spencer,the merchant of lies and promoter of filthy christianity as slaves of evil jews,you can now see the jewish slave mad trump is now doing the job as instructed by master israhell to save mossad agency the isis.

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