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Video: The moment a jihad-martyrdom suicide bomber blows himself up at Alexandria’s St. Mark’s Cathedral

Apr 9, 2017 1:10 pm By Robert Spencer

Will we send cruise missiles into Islamic State bases in Egypt? No, that wasn’t on Obama’s to-do list, which is apparently guiding Trump’s foreign policy at this point. The U.S. Embassy issued the usual pro forma condemnation, which accomplishes nothing except manifest the virtue of the one issuing it. Genuine action against those Muslim groups that have decimated the Christian populations of the Middle East is unlikely to be forthcoming.

Breaking:
Video of #Alexandria‘s Cathedral suicide bomber seconds before the explosion.#palmsunday #Egypt #Copts pic.twitter.com/tmg5BqKa7x

— Nervana Mahmoud (@Nervana_1) April 9, 2017

“16 Killed in Bombing at St Mark’s Cathedral in Alexandria,” Egyptian Streets, April 9, 2017

A bomb has exploded near St. Mark Coptic Cathedral in Alexandria, just hours after another bombing at St George’s in Tanta.

According to initial reports, the bomb struck outside the Cathedral, killing 16 people and injuring 41 others.

Al-Ahram reports that a high-ranking police officer was killed when he intercepted a suicide bomber outside the Cathedral. The police officer has been identified as Emad Al-Rekaiby.

Coptic Pope Tawadros II, the head of the Coptic Church, was inside the Cathedral at the time of the explosion. Initial reports indicate the Pope is safe. Pope Tawadros II was inside the church presiding over Palm Sunday celebrations.

According to state media Al-Ahram, security forces have dismantled two bombs near St Mark’s Cathedral in Alexandria….

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  1. Berengaria says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:21 pm

    I HOPE TO LIVE TO SEE AMERICA STAND FOR CHRISTIANITY, NOT THE MURDEROUS “ISLAM” CULT OF DEATH.
    A continuation of Obama’s hideous plan to Islamitize America, is proceeding at a reckless speed.
    Cry Out to our President that we elected him for AMERICA FIRST, NOT ISLAM FIRST!

    • no_one says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 2:53 pm

      Unfortunately Trump doesn’t know how to deal with ISIS and islam. He just acted as ISIS air force. I agree that Obama had a thing for islam and was promoting it. The guy grew up in Indonesia. No wonder.

      • Jihadi John says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 8:24 pm

        Don’t worry. I’ll issue a Fatwa against global Jihad. That should take care of the problem.

      • Nan Barr says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 8:50 pm

        MOUSEY… all the captives are in the hands of REBELS: Al Nusa and Al Queda AND ISIS.

    • Dennis says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 3:46 pm

      I hope to see the Christians stand for Christianity. The pope and the archbishop of canterbury ask us to pray for the victims…the usual blather. Instead of doing something about it…like: enough is enough,

      • Nan Barr says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 8:25 pm

        In Syria there are some Christian militias fighting along side Assad’s military and the Russians.

        One of my priest’s wife’s friends in Syria is actually is now working in a Russian Military field hospital as a nurse.

    • Dave Petteys says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 1:25 pm

      Sorry: all the Priests I know go on and on about wanting to keep the churches “open to all” and to reach out to our “Muslim brothers and sisters”. Recipe for death and destruction!

  2. Max Publius says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    I wish we could stop using the word martyr to describe these disgusting evil people. For most of my life, when I thought of a martyr, I thought of someone suffering and dying in jail or under difficult circumstances because of being committed to principles based in humanity and goodness.

    A murdering martyr should return to being an oxymoron. Call this Muslim for what he is, an Islamic murderer.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 3:51 pm

      I’m with you, Max. I wish these murderers would be referred to as jihad-assassins. They do not deserve the title of martyr.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 3:56 pm

      I know how you feel, Max.

    • Wellington says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      And, as a “bonus,” assuming I had things my way, I would bury these Islamic murderers with slabs of pork.

      No respect to these bastards. None. Zero. Nihil.

      • DFD says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 4:30 pm

        Seconded
        ========

      • Nan Barr says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 8:27 pm

        Actually a waste of good pork! LOL

        Some pig tails would suffice. : )

        • John says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 8:53 am

          Even pig tails are quite tasty. Pigs entrails would do the job

      • Peggy says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 9:34 pm

        Would you really do that to innocent pigs?

    • MikeC says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 3:03 am

      Yeah, i see what you mean, but i think Robert is trying to emphasise the religious aspect of these actions which is often denied by the media.

      Martyr is actually a pretty apt word in this case since Martyr in the original biblical Greek means witness or someone who bears witness of something and these guys really are true witnesses of Islam and really proclaim what Islam is all about. Death, Evil and Destruction.

  3. Pere LaChaise says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:30 pm

    Holy Coptic Martyrs of Alexandria and Tanta, pray to God for us!

    • no_one says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 2:54 pm

      Amen.

      • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 1:26 am

        Amen again.

        That said, I wish that both Robert and Pam would dummy up for awhile with their criticism of Pres. Trump. He just made it clear that atrocities committed by Assad v. his own people-non-combatants-will meet with the might of USA military force. Which no one’s seen any of for the last 10 years or so.

        And their memories needed to be ‘refreshed’.

        However it is true that Assad is the best possible leader for Syria because we’re talking the mideast here. Which only serves to remind us all that there, a sadistic murdering muslim tyrant is ‘way better than the alternative, which is a sadistic murdering muslin fundamentalist tyrant.

        • Jeanette says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:47 am

          So true.

        • Peggy says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 9:38 pm

          That’s assuming that Assad did this. Why not go after the scum who actually did this and show that US will not stand for it?
          Why not punish the guilty? Do you really believe that it was Assad and how quickly did Trump get the evidence which he won’t be showing us?

          Remember “The Russians hacked the server” lie? No evidence, just accusation.
          Doesn’t this feel the same?

    • Nan Barr says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:27 pm

      IN about 40 days….

  4. mortimer says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:35 pm

    Will ANYONE denounce the JIHAD IDEOLOGY of normative, canonical Islam?

    Will ANYONE ANYWHERE say “IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID” ?

    JIHAD ATTACKS AGAINST CHURCHES will CONTINUE until we DEPROGRAM Muslims RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM. This can be done, but governments must do it.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 3:59 pm

      Mortimer wrote:

      JIHAD ATTACKS AGAINST CHURCHES will CONTINUE until we DEPROGRAM Muslims RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM. This can be done, but governments must do it.
      ……………………

      Mortimer, this has *never* been done–so why are you so sure that this will work?

      • Know Thy Enemy says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 8:01 pm

        Actually, it has been done against Nazism and Communism, and CAN be done against Islam, if the procedure is properly followed. The process will take over 30 years. The biggest obstacles to achieving this of course are going to be our own fellow non-Muslims, the liberals, the progressives, and the crooks in our media, academia, and govt (including defense and intelligence orgs).

        But let’s say for the sake of discussion that somehow, miraculously, sufficient numbers of powerful and influential people, agreed that tough measures were needed and that Islam needs to be weakened. Here is what should be done-

        Islam be declared an enemy of our state, besides being a harmful and dangerous ideology, just as what was done to Nazism and Communism in the US. This ‘religion’ should always be portrayed in a negative way in all venues and any positive portrayals should be frowned upon and rejected.

        It should be recognized that not all Muslims possess equal skill when it comes to propagating Islam. Certain Muslims are much more skilled at it and/or have peer-influence on others. They are the mullahs, the Islamists (e.g CAIR) and the extreme fundamentalists. They make up as much as five percent of any Muslim population. These people would need to be identified and deported. Those who cannot be deported will need to be exiled permanently (preferably to Muslim majority countries).

        It be made compulsory for children of Muslims to attend schools where they teach the evil nature of Islam, just as has been done regarding Nazism and Communism in the US. This way these children will grow up to be normal adults as opposed to Islam indoctrinated zombies. Islamic taqiyya techniques should be taught in colleges and universities so that all students are inoculated against any taqiyya they may encounter in life.

        It be recognized that one of the ways that Muslims spread Islam is by controlling their women, especially controlling who they marry. Feminist groups should be created whose sole focus should be to free Muslimahs from Islam’s control (and families’ control and husbands’ control).

        Muslim immigration to our countries be indefinitely banned, just as has been done to followers of Nazism and Communism in the US. This way, no new Islamists or fundamentalists would enter our countries. If someone does somehow sneak in, there is little he would be able to do to spread Islam because of the above mentioned precautions.

        If this procedure is followed for 30 full years, the Muslims will not only be deprogrammed out of Islam but will be unlikely to ever ‘revert’ back in.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 8:57 pm

          Thanks for the reply, Know Thy Enemy.

          We militarily defeated the Nazis, and then occupied Germany.

          The Soviet Union collapsed, and then authorities there stopped teaching and enforcing Communism.

          In places where this has not happened–like North Korea–Communism is as horrific as ever.

          During the colonial period, we were able to blunt some of the horrors of Islam–but we were not a presence in all or even most of the Muslim world, and Islam was never banned. Hence, a few decades after Western countries left Islam came roaring back.

          I don’t believe we could occupy all of Dar-al-Islam and then police it, while banning Islam outright. I can only imagine the horrendous ongoing loss of Infidel life if we tried.

          I think the best strategy is to isolate the Muslim world–this largely kept us safe from about 1800 (when we defeated the Barbary pirates and opened the Mediterranean Sea to free trade) to 1960 or so, when Muslims began to migrate in increasing numbers to the West.

          I think we should end Muslim immigration, crack down on Jihad in a consistent manner (which we are not doing now), and deport any Muslims who show Jihadist tendencies.

          Your thoughts?

        • no_one says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 9:31 pm

          People in some communist countries did not believe in the commie ideas. They just pretended to, so they don’t go to jail. Communism wasn’t that bad. In particular health care and education were very good. US can only dream about these. Islam is different. Ordinary people actually believe in the fantasy of a mentally ill mohamhead.

        • Know Thy Enemy says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 pm

          Hi gravenimage,

          There is one major difference between today and the eras of Nazism and Soviet Union, and it is the Internet and the resultant globalization of information.

          You mentioned that we need to crack down harder on Jihad/Jihadists, and I agree. But that is not sufficient to defang this enemy. IMO the Dawa-ists are a far more serious threat to our countries and our way of life. (I have used the term Islamists to refer to these guys and to differentiate them from Jihadists. Ayaan Hirsi Ali has explained in detail about their dawa activities and what makes them sinister (Click here for her article). Another term that I have used is fundamentalists. Watch the youtube video “By The Numbers – The Untold Story of Muslim Opinions & Demographics” by Raheel Raza who explains how they differ from the jihadists and Islamists.

          I mentioned in my previous comment that we would also need to eliminate these fundamentalist, and especially the Islamists (dawa-ists) in order to fully defeat Islam. However we do not need to occupy/police the entire dar-al-islam. We need to carry out the procedure only in our own country (US). IMO this would be enough to cause Islam to fall like dominoes in other countries because of Internet and globalization.

          Isolating the Muslim world would help too but I am not sure that we will be able to convince other non-Muslim countries to join us in this effort. Also don’t forget that there are plenty of Islamists (dawa-ists) and fundamentalists in our own country already. As you know Muslims are barely 1% of US population and despite that they have infiltrated most of our institutions quite well. Imagine what would happen if the Muslim population increases to 5%. Hence for now, we should concentrate on protecting our own countries from these folks. This can be achieved by carrying out the procedure I described in my previous comment.

        • Wellington says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 pm

          “Communism wasn’t that bad. In particular health care and education were very good.”

          Ah, where to begin. Think right now I’m too tired and it’s too late to start lest I write to exhaustion. Later perhaps but would it do any good?

        • no_one says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 10:00 pm

          @Wellington. It doesn’t matter what you write about communism. I have lived through it as a child and I know how it felt. Education and health care were superb. I know how much my family believed in commie ideas, how they behaved in home and in public.

        • Wellington says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 10:25 am

          no_one: Marxism (Communism) doesn’t work, destroys freedom, ruins economies (especially the agricultural sector) and is evil. Virtually all of Marx’s main doctrines are bogus——the labor value theory (so naïve that Marx didn’t even take into account things like intrinsic worth and advertising costs), dialectical materialism (which is Teutonic mumbo jumbo), determinism (which is voodoo and palm reading for intellectuals), the theory of alienation (disproven again and again, for instance by black Americans who overwhelmingly didn’t want to overthrow the capitalist system but rather become a successful part of it), and, worst of all, the class struggle theory (herein likes the heart of the malevolence of Marxism because it sets up the upper and middle classes as the “them” which have to be eliminated, just as Nazism does it with ethnic groups and Islam with non-believers).

          Marxism (Communism) is one of the most evil and unworkable systems of thought ever devised by man. It destroys liberty wherever it has been tried, only the degree varies. It is social engineering at its worst. It has never worked. That you would promote it in any way speaks volumes.

        • Peggy says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 9:46 pm

          The only thing we can do now is deport as many as we can. Shut down mosques and do a massive conversion to any other religion (their choice).
          Then as future generations are born they will grow in a household practicing different values.
          Islam converted by force and the future generations were brought up with it. Once converted they obeyed even if they didn’t quite embrace it but their descendants took it better.
          It’s proven to work.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:10 pm

          no_one wrote:

          People in some communist countries did not believe in the commie ideas. They just pretended to, so they don’t go to jail. Communism wasn’t that bad. In particular health care and education were very good. US can only dream about these.
          ………………………….

          With all respect, no_one, Communism was *horrifying*.

          Stalin killed up to fifty million people, and two million died in the Killing Fields of Cambodia. Mao slaughtered millions, as well. People are *still* dying in North Korea.

          Then there was the crushing of free expression, the terrible oppression of Christianity, Judaism, and Buddhism, the general lack of freedom–and the horror of the Gulags.

          Victims didn’t even have the freedom even to escape. Who can forget those being shot trying to flee? This is still happening in North Korea today.

          I will be the first to acknowledge the problems of the American educational system–but we try to educate *everyone*, something the Soviet Union never did. Many students were tracked into manual labor, and had no alternatives. About all you can say is that they did bring the levels of literacy up from Tsarist times.

          As for medicine, often the best treatment was reserved for Communist Party members.

          I condemn Islam utterly–that does not mean that I am going to pretend that Communism–or Fascism–were good things.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:15 pm

          Thanks for the reply, Know Thy Enemy. I agree we have to deal with all the forms of stealth Jihad as well as violent Jihad. Both forms have the same goal of forcing submission of the Infidels.

          Doing this in West might or might not cause Islam to fall all over the world–but it would *certainly* make our own nations safer.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:36 pm

          Fine post, Wellington.

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:04 pm

      Apparently not anyone with any power and authority.

  5. Jack Dawkins says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:50 pm

    allah = satan

    • no_one says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 3:06 pm

      agreed.

      • Jack Dawkins says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 3:13 pm

        The truth takes few words

    • PRCS says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 7:15 pm

      Allah is not Satan, but rather a character in a man made fraud.

  6. Irene Brekelmans says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    Will anybody of you so called Christians STAND UP for your own people? I do not recognise Christians any more
    We had the privilege To have Christ, actually you are really let Him die again for the second time, and you have no excuse you and the Catholic church, no excuse to blame the Jews. YOU DID !!! May He forgive you. A Year ago I had a dream and I asked Him before in my prayers (childlike) if He could not come back now, as He was urgently needed. I saw Him coming trough a corridor and people were attacking Him in a horrible way with spears, guns, knives everything you can think of wapens. He lokked calmly at me and said: Irene, I can not now, because they would kill me right away now again.

    I started screaming no, no they would not for a second time, and I wanted to go to defend Him, but there was a invisible wall, I could not reach Him at that moment.
    For days I was devastated from this dream and days after I realised what He had said was true, but never knew it was done in this way, by Muslems and Christians and Catholics. The ones who stayed silence are doing the same atrocities by keeping their mouths shut. Well you have to live with it.
    I hope you will feel fine.!!!

    • no_one says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 3:10 pm

      Calm down and speak for yourself. Why would you think you are worthy to see Jesus in a dream?

      • DFD says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 4:36 pm

        Why not? I admit, her story sounds… well, OK. However, everybody has a right to see Jesus, in a dream or spiritually or whatever, if he/she only wants to.

        How do you apply ranks of worthiness to see or perceive Jesus? Read the four canonical ones.

        • no_one says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 5:53 pm

          Not according to some Christian teachings. We can’t trust dreams. Many saints thought they were unworthy to see Jesus in a dream, or saints or angels. One has to have holy life to see such things, Irene judges people. This is not holy.

        • DFD says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:44 am

          Hi no-one,

          I did not state what I did according to ‘some Christian teachings’ but according to what Jesus said in the four canonical ones.

          That she is judging people, don’t we all? And, aren’t we all being judged? Particularly by the Muslims – judged and condemned.

          Dreams cannot be trusted. Indeed, but if she trusts hers, then that’s her business, she merely shares her dreams with us, or simply expresses these. One may agree or disagree, or simply ignore.

          Saints? I know the churches believe that they have the right to declare who is a saint and who isn’t. I wouldn’t dare.

      • Peggy says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 10:14 pm

        If Jesus thinks any of us is worthy it’s not for us to explain.
        Do you think only people like the Pope are worthy?

    • Nan Barr says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:30 pm

      Jesus cannot be killed again as he is fully God now.

    • citycat says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 11:50 pm

      I would be interested in your description of the physical appearance of this Jesus

      Cheers

    • citycat says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:48 am

      The reason i ask is because in the late 80’s i had an experience not as dramatic as yours

      Just the person with nothing external around him

      I am curious if there is a similarity between them

      No big deal but i’d like to know if that’s ok

      Thanks

      .

    • AleX says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 10:07 am

      Thank you, Irene, for sharing your mystical dreams with me the reader. Dreams are important for our spiritual balance and self-assesment.

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:10 pm

      My understanding is that when Jesus returns, he will be in a form that human beings cannot hurt.

      It sounds like your dream might have been a reaction to your stressed and upset emotional condition.

  7. somehistory says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    satan the devil uses his human *children* to murder those who seek to please the True God.

    When this happens, all hope is gone for satan’s children. But there is a “resurrection” for those who are murdered by satan’s children.

  8. Dominic says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    May the God of all comfort, comfort all the victims and their families by the holy Spirit.
    “…..I will build my Church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” – Jesus Christ.

  9. James.mich says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    These people are *not* martyrs – they are murderers. Please let’s not confuse the two.

    • PRCS says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 7:19 pm

      Not to be mean, but what you and I think about Islam is irrelevant.

      It’s what Muslims believe about Islam.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 9:04 pm

        It does matter what Infidels think about Islam–but only if we act to oppose it.

        • Jeanette says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 12:13 pm

          I agree.

          We are civilized people; they are monsters. It matters more what we think than it matters what they think.

    • Nan Barr says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:34 pm

      All those people murdered by ISLAMICS for their faith in Christ are martyrs.

  10. Walter Sieruk says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    The sad and tragic reality is that all those jihadists who engage in suicide/homicide bombing/attack are of that murderous mindset of actually wanting to become human bombs because they have been thoroughly brainwashed in places of Islamic mind programming which are mosques and madrasas. To the heinous extreme that they come out of those Islamic mind control centers literally as some described as “dangerous to self and others.” This shows the awful harm done to people in those demonic/Islamic indoctrination centers, mosque and madrasas. What heinous, destruction and murderers are performed by those Muslim/ jihadists in their deluded, mad and murderous Islamic quest ! As the Koran instructs “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.”
    So it’s thus fitting to explain such murdering insanity by the fable of Aesop which is entitled THE SCORPION AND THE FROG So here is it “One upon a time there was a scorpion who wanted to cross a wide river but he couldn’t swim so he begged a frog to give him a ride his back across the river. The kind but foolish frog agreed .Then they both set off across the river. Half -way across the river the scorpion stung the frog. The shocked and dying frog asked the Scorpion “Why do you sting me sine that means we both will die. “ The scorpion replied “Because that’s just what scorpions is kill, even if it means our own destruction.”
    In conclusion, this is the same way as with the jihad-minded suicide/homicide bombers , they kill other people along with themselves because that’s what Muslim/jihadists do because that’s their nature since they have bed to very much mind programed into the ways of the violent and murderous jihad of Islam.

  11. US5564 says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    Is it not time that jihadis are identified correctly as “Muslim Jihadis”, so as to connect islam’s dawa with these murderous acts. CAIR and other front groups are effectively seperating the terror acts from ismal’s ultimate goal.

    • PRCS says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 7:22 pm

      How about just Muslims.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 9:19 pm

      All Jihadis are Muslim.

      • Jeanette says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 12:17 pm

        And all Muslims support jihadis, if only by their silence, so they are all at least complicit in jihadist atrocities.

        This is what happens when a population follows an Operator,s Manual that instructs that they kill everyone else.

        • LilyDarcey says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 1:52 pm

          So why do you support Trump doing business with Islamic terrorist countries?

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:47 pm

          LilyDarcey wrote:

          So why do you support Trump doing business with Islamic terrorist countries?
          ……………………….

          I don’t know anyone here who supports that, Lily–certainly, Jeanette does not.

          You seldom get a perfect candidate–Trump seemed far more apt to oppose Jihad than his opponent. So far, that has been generally borne out.

          That does *not* mean I am uncritical of all of Trump’s actions, past and present.

  12. no_one says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    The murderer already know they are not the martyrs. Their victims are the martyrs.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 4:02 pm

      Very true.

    • PRCS says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 7:26 pm

      Disagree.

      THEY believe that THEY will be martyring themselves.

      • no_one says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 8:10 pm

        They believe, but there is true God and martyrdom in His terms is different from muslim martyrdom. Muslim suicide bombers are just killers.

        • PRCS says

          Apr 9, 2017 at 8:40 pm

          Not to THEM.

          Know your enemy.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 9:36 pm

        Well, this is true, PRCS. Muslims really do believe that slaughtering innocent people is “Martyrdom”.

  13. Walter Sieruk says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    There is some egg on my face since just after my posting this above essay I made some keyboarding errors about the jihadist suicide/homicide bombers ” is how it should have read.
    Nevertheless. in the madrasas the Koran ,the Quran, is never to be questioned in any way no mater how mild . This ,at least gives a hint that Islam with its Koran is a very weak and fragile religion since no questioning or criticism in the Koran is allowed. With no doubts of the Koran allowed it’s no wonder that Muslims who are jihadist listen without doubt of question the instructions to engage which the Muslim clerics call “‘martyrdom operations'”

    In addition ,all this about Muslims students in the madrasas never being allowed to question , doubt or examine the Quran in a critical way leads to this other following essay.
    In classical work of ancient Greek literature, by Plato, entitled THE APOLOGY OF SOCRATES it in written that Socrates had said that “An unexamined life is not worth living.” Likewise, in may also be said that “An unexamined religion is not worth believing in.” This is said about all religions. Yet to be specific, in this case, the topic is about the religion of Islam. Furthermore, one man who was as a former a Muslim and had lived in one of the Islamic nations of the Middle East but now he is Christian and an American citizen had explained in a book he wrote that “Driving into depths of the word of reasoned thinking and research in Islamic societies has always been costly. Some Muslim who have done this have even been excluded from their social rights and even sentenced to death.” [1]

    [1] ISLAM AND THE SON OF GOD by Daniel Shayesteh page 70.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 4:05 pm

      Don’t worry–the typos were not a big deal, Walter.

    • Shmooviyet says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 5:12 pm

      “…Islam with its Koran is a very weak and fragile religion since no questioning or criticism.. is allowed.”
      So similar to sociopathic behaviour: hypocritical, deeply insecure. No criticism allowed. Defensive, threatening reactions if one dares to question them.

      Islam must be very attractive to this personality.

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:19 pm

      Good grief – if everyone who makes typos had to refrain from commenting here, the comment section would be nearly or totally empty!

      Let those who NEVER make a type cast the first keyboard!

      • Jeanette says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 12:20 pm

        OOPS – “type” is a typo!

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 11:51 pm

          🙂

  14. no_one says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    A Christian elder said we have to feel sorry for those who are against god, because their future is hell.

    • citycat says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 6:31 am

      Take your god and shove it

  15. gravenimage says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    Video: The moment a jihad-martyrdom suicide bomber blows himself up at Alexandria’s St. Mark’s Cathedral
    ………………………

    Yes, almost certainly Coptic Pope Tawadros was the main intended target here.

  16. Debi Brand says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    “Genuine action against those Muslim groups that have decimated the Christian populations of the Middle East is unlikely to be forthcoming.”

    Well of course it is unlikely forthcoming–such action could harm our bonds our “friendship” with our “Secular” Muslim allies.

    Regarding such tendernesses, we–the supposed last standing super- power–along with our above-mentioned “allies,” along with, supposedly, if not all then the lion’s share of non-Shariah guided nations, have been fighting for 15 years + and running, the troops of “Allah and His Messenger.”

    And yet to this moment, for all our cost and alliances in this war, we hold no clear victory in hand; have none in sight.

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:24 pm

      And we won’t as long as Islam:

      Remains designated as a “religion.”

      Is allowed to practice the human rights abuse of polygamy.

  17. IQ al Rassooli says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    The most efficient way to destroy Islam is to dare any Muslim or any of their brain dead supporters to prove anything I reveal about the depraved Muhammad and Islam in this video as either wrong or false

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTuFA1fQ-yg&feature=youtu.be&a

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 10:15 pm

      Unfortunately, IQ al Rasssoli, pious Muslims do not care what Infidels and apostates think, nor do they think rationally about Islam and the “Prophet”, as you well know.

      They work through coercion and violence, not through reason.

  18. JS says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    I hope mr. Trump will condemn this barbaric action of ISIS and do something concrete about it..

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 8:11 am

      Right now, I can think of three things that could be done.

      First, President Al Sisi gets put on notice. If his flowery words to Egypt’s Copts are NOT backed up by real, demonstrable actions to protect them and to end the institutionalised persecution and discrimination, and to PUNISH those who attack them at every level – not just those who bomb churches, but the mobs that lynch people on the basis of false accusations – then… monetary and other ‘aid’ to Egypt, from the USA, gets ratcheted back, bit by bit. He will claim that if this happens, the Muslim Brotherhood will take control (i.e. he uses the threat of the Muslim Brotherhood as a way to extort ‘aid’ from the USA and other infidel states..). Call his bluff.

      Second: bona fide Copts who wish to migrate to the USA get given priority. Places are opened up for them. They are vetted and vouched for by Coptic clergy and by Copts already present and granted humanitarian visas with a view to residency. It is made crystal clear that any Muslim who *pretends* to be a Copt in order to get into the USA, will be summarily tossed back into the dar al Islam the instant the imposture is detected.

      ALL Egyptian Muslim entry into the USA is ended. Now. Permanently. End of. The stated reason is that the general Muslim population has generally acquiesced in or actively engaged in the discrimination, oppression and abuses meted out to the Copts in Egypt for *centuries*. Copts fleeing to the USA will NOT be exposed to the trauma of having to see their Muslim persecutors *following* after them. If they are to feel safe, then they must be given assurance that *not one* Muslim from Egypt will be permitted to come after them.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 8:19 am

        Ps Feel free to Tweet, email or *write* to President Trump and make these suggestions.

        Also, tell him he is being ‘played by the Goodcop/ Badcop trick – with Al Sisi playing Goodcop’ to the Islamic State (and Muslim Brotherhood) Badcop.

        Furthermore – *other* Infidel States (such as my own country, Asutralia) could perfectly readily do each of these three things, as a response to the atrocities that Copts have suffered of late in Egypt (atrocities that are similar to the atrocities they have suffered for 1200 years previous, at Muslim hands).

        We can STOP all ‘aid’ to and trade with Muslim Egypt.

        We can STOP all Egyptian Muslim entry into our own countries, while facilitating the flight of the Copts and offering the fleeing Copts hospitality in our own, Infidel lands.

        ( A different solution would be Partition: the Copts get all of Sinai plus the Suez Canal and a strip each side of it, and the Gaza Strip; ALL Copts leave Egypt and go to Aegyptia Nova, whilst ALL mohammedans from the future Coptic State get sent to Egypt… population exchange. Egypt would go to Islamic hell, ever down and down into the void; meanwhile, Aegyptia Nova – which could be protected by Russia AND the USA, and allied with Israel on its northeast boundary – would, I guarantee, blossom and flourish. But neither Russia nor the USA, right now, has the brains or the will to make something like *that* happen).

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 11:52 pm

        Hear, hear, DDA!

  19. God's Warrior says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    How would the Islamic warrior class react when nuclear missiles kill millions at the Hajj?

    I hope that it doesn’t escalate to that but it seems to get more likely every day.

    At some point, enough will be enough. But I guess that is their goal anyway.

  20. Al says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    A worldwide dialogue on the evils of Islamic writings needs to be conducted. Whatever truths in Islamic writings are plagiarisms from Christian theological thought. Islam permits lying to advance Islamic conquest of the world. It is not possible to claim truth and simultaneously tell lies. Mixing religion and politics degrades religion. With these thoughts in mind, Islam is not a religion, it is an ideology with its own brand of corruptions. To the extent it is a Christian heresy, it is a religion. Truth will prevail.

  21. sog says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    Islamophobia hurts feelings. Cristophopia kills people.

  22. LilyDarcey says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    Seven majority-Muslim nations not impacted by the travel ban have business ties to President Trump, leading critics to wonder whether his policy is influenced by his business interests. Some have argued that Trump could dispel any perceived conflict of interest by divesting his assets and placing them in a blind trust.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/datadesign/2017/02/01/mapping-president-trumps-travel-ban-vs-his-business-interests-in-muslim-countries/#2a34f36a4694

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:38 pm

      Forcing presidents to divest themselves of all of their assets is going to get us presidents who simply lie about their assets (put them in a buddy’s name, for instance).

      The people who would do that would also betray their country in favor of Muslims.

      I’ll take Trump, with assets intact.

      • LilyDarcey says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 1:50 pm

        The US should not do business with any Islamic country. It is a conflict of interest to the security and safety of the USA. Considering that Saudi Arabia, Pakistan are well known sponsor of Islamic terrorists, and Trump has ironically not put them on the moslem terrorist ban list, how do you think this benefits Americans? It doesn’t. It only benefits Trump’s pockets. As it is, the man does financially well, without having to do business with the terrorist enemies.

        • Charli Main says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 3:37 pm

          Unfortunately, not doing business with Islamic countries is a hard call because they have the oil.
          The day a viable energy source, to oil is found, will be the day these Muslims will go back to living in mud huts and goat skin tents.

        • LilyDarcey says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 4:22 pm

          The Keystone Pipeline would make OPEC Saudi oil obsolete.

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 4:38 pm

          Yes–we should isolate Dar-al-Islam as much as possible.

          There is not much that they produce, and nothing that we cannot get elsewhere.

  23. LilyDarcey says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    To assist in the ousting of al-Assad would therefore only leave Syria’s chemical arsenal into the hands of those who want Sharia law to be implemented, and an Islamic universal empire (or Umma in the Arabic) to be established. And amongst the rebels in Syria, are these Islamic utopians themselves. Jeroen Oerlemans, a dutch photographer, alongside John Cantile of Britain, were kidnapped by Islamic fundamentalists in Syria who had joined the cause of the rebels. Both of the men were threatened with death if they did not convert to Islam, and while trying to escape they had both endured gunshot wounds. They were later released with the help of other rebels, but what they had seen should not go unignored.

    http://shoebat.com/2012/07/30/if-bashar-al-assad-is-ousted-the-islamists-will-take-over-syria/

    • Nan Barr says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:47 pm

      Syria’s chemical weapon arsenal was destroyed in 2013-14 under the direction and guidance of the USA and the UN. Some of the weapons were even destroyed in Finland.

      ANY chemicals now are being manufactured by the rebels Al Nusa and Al Queda.

      There were chem. weapons fired in Oct. last year by the rebels in East Aleppo toward West Aleppo which was held by Assad’s forces and the Russians.
      With help of a cease fire organized by Turkey , the UN and the Russians the rebels disarmed and left East Aleppo in December when it became obvious they were out gunned and out flanked. And I might add SOL!! : )

      After the Russian sappers came into the EAST Aleppo area to de-mine they found the remains of empty chemical containers that were being used to make Chem. weapons. The UN saw all this too.

      COURSE the WESTERN MSM does NOT ever report this.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 10:26 pm

        Nan, I think Syria just held back and didn’t turn them all over.

        Likely some of these have been captured by Sunni Jihadists, as well.

      • Jeanette says

        Apr 10, 2017 at 12:41 pm

        Let’s see: We couldn’t trust Syria’s Muslim leader; we couldn’t trust the U.N., and we couldn’t trust the US under the Liar Hussein al Obama.

        So what makes us think that anything the above said was true?

        (Finland, I don’t know about. And they could have been told untruths by the above entities, too.)

        • gravenimage says

          Apr 10, 2017 at 4:39 pm

          All true.

  24. mortimer says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 7:55 pm

    Check out the youtube comments by Muslims. They are in denial.

    Here’s one comment in favor:

    “Alhamdulillah, may Allah The Magnificent accept the mujahid who did this with the highest level in Paradise.Insha’Allah, next time more crusaders will be killed. Stop supporting dictators, stop invading our countries, stop your efforts to “reform Islam,” leave our countries! To Christians in Muslim countries; stop supporting secular dictators, otherwise the retaliations will be worse than this!”

    • no_one says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:16 pm

      When they praise satan = allah I feel like vomiting. Muzzies are simply disgusting. They may believe in their allah as long as they don’t impose on others, but they will never do it. Murderers are already in hell and are repenting, but it is too late for them.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:28 pm

      This isn’t denial–this is naked Muslim savagery.

    • Nan Barr says

      Apr 9, 2017 at 8:54 pm

      YOU see that ALL muslims stop supporting SECULAR DICTATORS…. like ASSAD I Believe they mean OR muslims living in RUSSIA …the Muslim regions.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 9, 2017 at 10:29 pm

        Assad is not secular. But he is probably not as bent as imposing pure Islam as are al Qaida, al Nusra, and ISIS.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 4:42 pm

      Yes–Muslims threaten Infidels everywhere.

  25. Baucent says

    Apr 9, 2017 at 8:22 pm

    At the start of the video, there is a muslim woman engaged in conversion with a female Police officer. This distracts her as the bomber arrives and tries to duck around the side of the metal detector. He is turned back and directed to go through the detector, which obviously activates alarm as he backs out then detonates. The muslim woman may have been an innocent bystander or could have been an accomplice distracting one of the Police on duty.

  26. Crusades Were Right! says

    Apr 10, 2017 at 5:21 am

    This is what life is like when you are a Christian (or other non-Mohammedan) community living in a predominantly Mohammedan country. As Mohammedan numbers in the West swell, this kind of atrocity will become everyday life for the rest of us. Some Mohammedans will slaughter us in order to enter Islamic paradise. Others won’t. But the ones who won’t slaughter us won’t lift a finger to protect us either.

    Looking forward to lots more Mohammedan neighbours?

    • Jeanette says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 12:46 pm

      All Muslims are at least complicit.

      They will be complicit until they leave Islam, and are no longer Muslims.

      There is no way out.

  27. geoff schneider says

    Apr 10, 2017 at 5:55 am

    Emad Al-Rekaiby, the police officer seems to be a hero.

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 4:46 pm

      Of course, pious Muslims consider this officer an “apostate” for taking such an assignment.

  28. FYI says

    Apr 10, 2017 at 6:33 am

    The killer at the door of the church…..

    shows

    No Mercy
    No Compassion
    No Love of humanity.. and therefore
    No Love of God
    Nothing but hatred (and no doubt expecting allah’s blessing for obediently following his instructions to gain entry into the islamic paradise where evil is richly rewarded).
    He knew what he was going to do.
    No remorse for doing such evil.Think of the sheer selfishness and self-righteousness
    of these pathetic islamic “martyrs”:martyrs not for God but for their god of hate.
    Everyone has free will and God’s law (-not allah’s-)condemning murder are clear enough.

    allah says..

    “When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them”
    koran 9:5

    but we know that Almighty God says “Thou shalt not kill”” in the Sixth Commandment.

    People often say “Where is God in all this”?In the innocent victims.In the medical people..
    God will do justice on behalf of the murdered but the murderer cannot seriously expect mercy.
    And we know who allah is and what he teaches and what false promises he makes to encourage those who do such evil.
    So there should be no doubting where satan is.

    • D J says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 10:04 am

      In the Koran Moses is described as coming down the mountain with the Tablets but what struck me reading it was that nowhere are the Commandments themselves mentioned.
      The 6th commandment is simply not part of Koranic teaching…just the opposite 109 times.

  29. citycat says

    Apr 10, 2017 at 7:16 am

    Marc
    You hypocritical piece of crap

    • gravenimage says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 5:52 pm

      citycat, what is *this* about?

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Apr 10, 2017 at 8:04 pm

      Citycat, in my few years of being a JW reader — and occasionally a commenter — not once have I found Marc to be hypocritical. Since there as yet has been no post from Marc regarding this article, one might assume that you experienced a problem posting a comment, as most of us have for any number of technical problems. Your comment is inappropriate.

      • gravenimage says

        Apr 11, 2017 at 12:59 am

        Yes, Cecilia–I have occasional problems posting, as well–it can be frustrating, but I certainly do not consider it deliberate on Marc’s part.

        Citycat, if you do have technical problems, you can contact Marc at the “Contact Us” box.

  30. common sense says

    Apr 10, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    “Will we send cruise missiles into Islamic State bases in Egypt?”

    WILL EGYPT? Can they clean up there own MESS? Will Iraq? Afghanistan? Lets just bomb the no go zones of UK and Sweden while we’re at it. I’m sure none of those countries will mind at all.

  31. citycat says

    Apr 11, 2017 at 6:49 am

    Try again
    Sorry Marc i emotionally lost it
    I should be addressing the Jesus freaks
    It’s too much
    God God God
    Jesus Jesus Jesus
    Allah + Satan don’t exist
    Mankind made this evil mess
    Mankind should sort it in brotherhood
    Not God Jesus Kali etc
    Sorry

    .

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