The Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)
Muhammad specifies the punishment for this in a hadith: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
“17-Year-Old Gay Teen Pushed Off 9th Floor Balcony By Uncle After He Was Outed By Chechen Family,” The Gaily Grind, May 5, 2017:
A Chechen fugitive who left the Russian republic to escape the “gay purge” currently underway, has shared a harrowing account of his escape with liberal Russian magazine Snob.
The man, who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation, shared the disturbing story of a 17-year-old boy who was pushed off of a 9th floor balcony by his uncle, after being outed.
The fugitive said he was forced to leave his country after revealing his sexuality to his mullah (local religious scholar).
The mullah responded, saying, “As a Chechen and as a man I do not want to see you here. Neither in the mosque, nor in this district. I want you to leave now, because everything you said is the most disgusting thing you can find out. I hope your relatives have the dignity to wash away your shame. Go away.”
That’s when the mullah told him about the 17-year-old’s death.
Last week, survivors reported that families of gay and bisexual men are invited to prison sites to take part in killing their relatives.
‘Kill your loved ones or we will anyway,’ is the message authorities have reportedly sent.
“They tell the parents to kill their child,” said one man who managed to escape. “They say, ‘Either you do it or we will.’ They call it, ‘Cleaning your honor with blood.’”
Some have apparently committed the act.
“They tortured a man for two weeks,” he said. “They summoned his parents and his brothers who all came. They said to them, ‘Your son is a homosexual. Sort it out or we’ll do it ourselves.’ They replied, ‘It’s our family, we’ll do it.’ The family took him and killed him in the forest. They buried him there. They didn’t even give him a funeral.”Alvi Karimov, a spokesperson for the Chechen government, denied the existence of LGBT people while giving a blanket denial of the existent of any ‘gay’ concentration camps. “You can’t detain and repress people who simply don’t exist in the republic,” he said….
Karen says
More vile, laughable nonsense about ‘honor’. Exactly where is the honor in killing?
The fugitive relating this story left the Russian Federation for the highly Islamic Chechnya, which is a bit like “out of the frying pan, into the fire”. Perhaps he had no choice; God bless him and keep him.
The knucklehead mullah could not show compassion to one who had shared a confidence; of what use is this person as a religious advisor, if he reacts as a “Chechen and a man”, instead of a counselor? Like all of us, his own honor, and righteousness, is like filthy rags.
Terry says
I did not read it that he left Russia for Chechnya-I read it as is from Chechnya and ALSO left the Russian Republic. Perhaps that could be clarified.
but, i agree- a counselor – especially as a religious counselor- this imam was the pits.
AND THE LESBIANS AND THE GAYS AND THE LGBT ETC COMMUNITIES WILL CONTINUE TO BE ANTI-CHRISTIAN, ANTI-SEMETIC ANTI-ISRAEL. PRO MUSLIM, PRO-PLO, PRO HAMAS, ETC.
Not just in the Us, but it seems in Europe as well.
( I feel sorry for the 17 year old; hopefully-he can find a place where he does not have to fear fro being killed by his family).
Karen says
I see what you mean about location; I think you are right about that.
gravenimage says
Yes–he fled Chechnya, which is a part of Russia.
Karen says
How embarrassing! 🙂 Ah, well, momentary mixup…..
Jon Sobieski says
The irony. The liberals say this is not Islam, but Islam, in its holy verses, its scholar’s works and studies, and its history, is central to the murder of gays. You have got to really work hard to ignore all that.
Don Foss says
Liberals and progressives don’t read scripture; they take the words of Muslims who appear on CNN and MSNBC.
gravenimage says
Grimly true. I have known those in denial who resist even cracking open the Qur’an. It is obvious that they actually fear what they will find there.
Donald R Laster Jr says
After 9/11 due to having one group of people saying 9/11 was an aberration by Islamics and other it was normal Islam I got a Qur’an and read it. I also went back and re-learn the history of the early 700s and later periods. Islam is not and never has been peaceful.
Westman says
This story line keeps popping up my mind: Islamic thugs are about to push a gay person off a high building while bloodthirsty Muslims scream from below. Instead of allowing himself to thrown off, he suddenly grabs a thug’s weapon, shoots all of them on the roof, dumps THEM off the building, and then jumps to an adjacent building while an ally detonates the forward side of the first building; which falls outward and crushes the bloodthirsty crowd including the Imam. A real Walter Mitty scenario that that would be satisfying, and, of course, will never see TV production until it sells soap.
Sadly, these gays go to their death, at the hands of Islam’s murderers, still believing in Muhammad’s sock puppet. Islam’s poor image in the majority of Western eyes is only declining with exposure to daily doses of Islam’s violence in this age of instant communications. The only reasonable excuse CAIR can give is, “they’re not real Muslims” to which, in return, the group in question believes CAIR’s members are “not real Muslims”. Such macabre irony.
gravenimage says
Yes–many of the victims of Islam go to their deaths praying to the baleful “Allah”. Twisted and sad.
PRCS says
As one of Big Al’s true believers explained in the following thread:
Left-fascists at University of Buffalo Robert Spencer lecture refuse to allow discussion of jihad threat
http://tinyurl.com/mthvtq5
Abdullah Suleiman says
May 3, 2017 at 10:54 am
Forceful conversions are haram in Sharia, killing innocent disbelievers is haram in Sharia, Chopping off hands for stealing without the strict legal proceedings of convicting someone without doubt is haram in Sharia, killing homosexuals without the strict legal proceeding in which witnesses have to witness the actual penetration is haram in Sharia, punishing people just on the presumption of homosexual tendencies is haram in sharia. The legal proceedings that allow for capital punishment for criminals are so lenient that a false testimony is enough to acquit someone of the death penalty.
So, as long as Islam’s “divinely” mandated barbarities are conducted in accordance with Big Al’s “revealed” word—it’s cool.
gravenimage says
Exactly, PRCS–thanks for posting the appalling Abdullah Suleiman’s apologia for Islamic savagery here.
PRCS says
Note to the clueless LGBTQABCXYZ community:
The Muslims who threw that Muslim kid off the roof were acting in accordance with written, Orthodox Islam.
Not “radical” Islam.
Time to stop pretending Muslims are an oppressed minority and start supporting your fellow travelers instead.
Don Foss says
They are. They support the misunderstood Muslims.
gravenimage says
Very true.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Yet, Islamics are allowed to sodomize boys. Yassar Arafat is reported to have had a stable of boys he regularly sodomized and in Afghanistan US soldiers have apparently gotten in trouble trying to protect boys from being sodomized. Islam allows Islamics to engage in depraved behavior.
Terry says
When Yasser Arafat died (note, he was married, excellent marriage-his wife lived in France, he lived in the Middle East), there was an autopsy done-IN FRANCE.
The results- he died of AIDS.
As I recall, there was a second autopsy (or perhaps just a thorough review) and the same conclusion was reached.
he was not known to have female lovers.
Donald R Laster Jr says
And remember that in Islam the victim is responsible for what is done to them. That is why women who are raped are killed for being raped in Islamic controlled countries. And is why boys who have been sodomized and grow to continue to practice sodomy are killed as well.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Donald.
gravenimage says
17-year-old gay teen pushed off 9th floor balcony by uncle after he was outed by Chechen family
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*Horrifying*. This poor kid.
More:
The mullah responded, saying, “As a Chechen and as a man I do not want to see you here. Neither in the mosque, nor in this district. I want you to leave now, because everything you said is the most disgusting thing you can find out. I hope your relatives have the dignity to wash away your shame. Go away.”
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In other words, this pious Muslim cleric hopes that the boy is *murdered by his family*.
Murdering loved ones is what “dignity” consists of in Islam. *Ugh*.
I’m glad this boy escaped.
More:
Last week, survivors reported that families of gay and bisexual men are invited to prison sites to take part in killing their relatives.
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In other words, the Chechen state–and by extension Russia, by turning a blind eye–is actively complicit in these murders.
This should not surprise:
“Muslim Chechnya opens first concentration camp for homosexuals since Hitler”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/muslim-chechyna-opens-first-concentration-camp-for-homosexuals-since-hitler
Matthieu Baudin says
“… Last week, survivors reported that families of gay and bisexual men are invited to prison sites to take part in killing their relatives… ‘Kill your loved ones or we will anyway,’ is the message authorities have reportedly sent…”
If these accounts can be corroborated then charges should be laid against those involved. The Russian Federation as a whole stands to suffer significant damage to its international reputation if one province, namely Chechnya, becomes corrupted by organised ISIS style murders of non combatants. This type of activity could greatly undermine Russia’s well earned stature as a world leader in bringing Fanatical Jihad to heel through it’s actions in the Middle East.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Russia has allowed Chechnya to become a Shari’ah state. And unlike the claims of apologists like “Chistianblood” that Shar’iah was “moderate” there, it has been obvious for sometime that Kadyrov has just been testing the waters there to see if there is any resistance from Putin at all.
So far there has not been–not to the condoning of “Honor Killings”, and not to concentration camps for gays.
How long before they institute stonings?
bostongal912 says
Gee wonder where he got that idea? Sarc off
Donald R Laster Jr says
Mohammad took many things from the Old and New Testament and twisted them to meet his needs to try and trick people into following and becoming part of his theocracy. He did it with other texts as well.