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BBC host on Manchester jihad massacre: “Europe has to get used to this”

May 24, 2017 9:13 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

BBC host Katty Kay, responding to Monday night’s suicide bombing in Manchester Arena after an Ariana Grande concert, told viewers Tuesday that Europeans are going to have to “get used” to terror attacks in their backyards.

If Katty Kay’s loved ones had been murdered in a jihad terror attack, she wouldn’t be so careless with her words. Europeans need to wake up and fight hard for their civilization, and must not accept jihad attacks as a norm. It is astonishing that most Europeans are still in denial about the danger they are in, and Kay is going even farther, encouraging Europeans to give up and surrender to the jihad.

At the end of April, prior to France’s election, Emmanuel Macron revealed his casual approach to jihad terror when he echoed former Prime Minister Manuel Valls’ statements after the deadly truck attack on Bastille Day 2016. Valls stated that “times have changed and we should learn to live with terrorism.” In like manner, Macron described terrorism as an “imponderable problem” that will be “part of our daily lives for the years to come”.

Sacrificing the lives of innocent men, women and children to jihadis who are determined ultimately to take over is not an option. This barbarism must not be normalized, as Macron, Valls, Katty Kay and others are trying to do.

In the refreshingly politically incorrect words of Donald Trump to leaders of Muslim countries:

DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship.
DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities.
DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and
DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH.

Western authorities need to begin this process at home, driving out both stealth and violent jihadists, and those who preach jihad. They should begin with designating the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist group, and by beginning surveillance of mosques that are known to be centers of jihad preaching and recruitment.

BBC Host @KattyKayBBC – “Europe has to get used to this” #ManchesterBombing pic.twitter.com/g764ETwrT3

— Jack Posobiec ?? (@JackPosobiec) May 23, 2017

“BBC Anchor: Europe Has to ‘Get Used’ to These Attacks,” by Cortney O’Brien, Townhall, May 23, 2017:

BBC host Katty Kay, responding to Monday night’s suicide bombing in Manchester Arena after an Ariana Grande concert, told viewers Tuesday that Europeans are going to have to “get used” to terror attacks in their backyards.

BBC Host @KattyKayBBC – “Europe has to get used to this” #ManchesterBombing pic.twitter.com/g764ETwrT3

— Jack Posobiec ???? (@JackPosobiec) May 23, 2017

Leaders like President Trump and British Prime Minister Theresa May are rejecting that message. They both offered strong statements in response to ISIS’ barbaric attack, May condemning the terrorists’ “cowardice” and Trump calling them “evil losers,” both pledging to seek justice.

Accepting terrorism as the norm is not acceptable. We must fight back and defend our homeland. The “Mother of All Bombs,” which killed 94 ISIS fighters, is an example of how the Trump administration has refused to sit idly by and let terror reign worldwide.

The Islamic State-authored attack in Manchester killed 22 people…

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  1. Buford says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:26 am

    Why should any Country have to just accept this? It would be more logical to control Borders & throw out Muslims & I do not buy that BS not all Muslims are bad anybody that believes in the Quran & Sharia Law is a Menace & an enemy & does not belong in Western Countries.

    • Jerry says

      May 24, 2017 at 9:46 am

      Why should any Country have to just accept this?”

      That’s right. Better that muslims should get used to not preaching violence in the mosques and acting like touchy pr*cks over everything we do, and stop threatening us, suing us, hating us for their religion. It’s time muslims get used to “our” way of life, it ain’t right that we should get used to murder and intimidation for allah. This should be a no brainer, but not for the left. To them violence for religion deserves more respect than the right of our own people to live a safe and peaceful existence. I will never get used to their way of thinking, it’s too darn immoral and deadly.

      • mortimer says

        May 24, 2017 at 10:05 am

        RUBBISH !

        • Jerry says

          May 24, 2017 at 10:17 am

          Could you expand on that?

        • gravenimage says

          May 24, 2017 at 2:49 pm

          Mortimer, what did Jerry say that was “rubbish”?

          His was a very good post. The only quibble I have is that Muslims are never going to give up on waging violent Jihad against us–although if we were more resolute on protecting our citizens they would have to put their plans on hold.

      • SK says

        May 24, 2017 at 11:24 am

        To be fair, Abedi’s mosque was pretty anti-ISIL. His father was well known as being pretty anti-ISIL.

        http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/salman-abedi-didsbury-mosque-islamic-centre-islam-muslim-isis-sharia-father-abu-ismail/

        It’s true that they might like, but this is an interesting claim.
        .

        • SK says

          May 24, 2017 at 11:29 am

          Typo there: by “like”, I mean “lie”, as in “be dishonest about”.

        • Jerry says

          May 24, 2017 at 12:06 pm

          “To be fair, Abedi’s mosque was pretty anti-ISIL. His father was well known as being pretty anti-ISIL.”

          It’s hard for me to feel sympathy right now for islam. And that’s really what that article seems to be going for, they got all the helpful facts lined up for display. Yes, his father “would likely be horrified by his actions,” they always are. And the imam was against ISIS. Well good for him, so is the rest of civilized society, give the man a cookie. The victims are mentioned, but only after we’re spoon fed the mitigating “facts.”

          But what about every other aspect of islam that we normal people find so deadly offense, why is it always glossed over like it doesn’t exist? What a deceitful trick the media always plays on us. By analogy, it would be like the media always seeing the “human” side of organized crime, telling us how these murderous gangsters had it so bad when they were little, and how they never got the breaks we all did. Fine. But it does nothing to address the larger issue of what threatens us or what to do about it. So they found one imam that was actually morally sane. I guess the conclusion is we should all just shut up and eat our porridge. No sense in rocking a boat that’s already sunk.

        • Didymus says

          May 24, 2017 at 3:37 pm

          “Be fair”
          Which planet have you been sleeping on? Abedi was fair – wasn’t he? No! You missed that.

          His Mosque and family were anti-Jihad? Where did you dig that up to? You and your sources are are deluded. Please tell me where your int came from? It was probably the other Muslim Obama!

        • gravenimage says

          May 24, 2017 at 9:22 pm

          SK wrote:

          To be fair, Abedi’s mosque was pretty anti-ISIL. His father was well known as being pretty anti-ISIL.
          …………………………

          Not every Muslim who is against ISIL is necessarily anti-Jihad terror–often they just back another faction.

          And this does indeed seem to be the case. This, from The Guardian:

          “Salman Abedi: why Manchester bomber fits profile of other terrorists”

          https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/24/salman-abedi-manchester-bomber-profile-islamist-terrorists

          “Investigators will be looking for any indication that other members of Abedi’s family had been involved in extremism, or harboured radical views. A significant number of those involved in Islamic militancy – as with any extremist activity – have close relatives who share their commitment to the cause.

          “There are examples of British militants wanting to emulate fathers involved in an earlier generation of violent activism. There are unconfirmed reports that Abedi’s father, Abu Ismail, was linked to the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, which waged an Islamist insurgency against Muammar Gadaffi’s secular regime. There are also suggestions that Abu Ismail returned to his homeland to take up arms during the Libyan revolution of 2011.”

          In other words, his father is reportedly not just a supporter of Jihad, but an actual Jihadist himself. He just likely fought for a rival of ISIL.

          And this Mosque is not exactly “progressive”, either–they have taken over a Church, and women cannot even worship in the Mosque, but are relegated to an out-building.

          The Mosque does not admit that the Jihadist had any link to the Mosque at all. Here is the bland message on their website:

          “The Manchester Islamic Centre & Didsbury Mosque condemns the horrific incident in Manchester on Monday.”

          What sort of “incident” might that have been? No mention that it was Jihad.

          They have a “Sharia Department”, and affirm that “Islamic law is not confined to civil and criminal matters, but also deals with administrative, socioeconomic, national, and international affairs.”

          They go on to condemn “monasticism”, which is a significant aspect of many Christian denominations–and they are doing this in a Christian Church.

          After September 11, they said that they were doubling down on the Da’wa. The Imam at the time, Salem Shekhi said he expected an event of this kind as a result of the tensions between the East and West.

          He added: “America should be looking for the real reasons behind such acts and be fair and impartial.

          In other words, 9/11 was *our fault*.

          Then, of course, they whine about how 9/11 *effects Muslims*–no mention of the actual victims.

          The above is from a South Manchester Reporter article from 2002:

          https://web.archive.org/web/20090310151753/http://www.southmanchesterreporter.co.uk/news/s/366556_true_meaning_of_islam

          All in all, reports of this Mosque’s “moderateness” may have been exaggerated.

          Not surprisingly, they now have plans to expand…

      • Didymus says

        May 24, 2017 at 3:30 pm

        Katty Kay (BBC) is playing to the crowd. She suggests we get used to bombing as our way of life. That is typically crass. I wonder, God forbid, that if her children were raped she would have to get used to it. I think not. She’s a silly woman who has an over-sized ego.
        Didymus

        • NEW HERE says

          May 24, 2017 at 6:59 pm

          She lives in a safe community,so no problem for her.

    • James says

      May 24, 2017 at 12:06 pm

      That is the question that has to be asked. Why the Hell should we, in any country, “get usec to” such crimes ? That woman should get a reprimand for what she said: I can absolutely guarantee, beyond a shadow of doubt, that if she had said that about a wave of rapes by Whitey, she would have been fired.

      But because the unintelligentsia is tortured by the guilt of not living in a Muzrat shit-hole (made a shit-hole by Muzrat inbreds), they won’t hear a word against the worse than Nazi deathcult that commits these crimes,

  2. Vyx says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:43 am

    So… just lay back and enjoy being conquered by the soldiers of allah?

    I’ve been saying for a while that all the alpha males in Western Europe were killed in two world wars. Looks like I’m right.

    • Pete says

      May 24, 2017 at 12:46 pm

      Yes, I believe the world would have been a much better place today if either Austria-Hungary had been satisfied with Serbia accepting 8 out of their 10 demands or if Nicholas had just cooled his heels and let Austria-Hungary complete its policing action.

      The outbreak of WWI led to a chain of events that culminated in this sorry state of affairs that we find ourselves in today. There’s a good chance that had everyone butted-out of this regional affair 100 years ago that the rise of communism and fascism would either not have happened at all or at most have been a very local and temporary affair, easily quashed by stable governments with strong and loyal militaries.

      Instead Europe’s best and brightest bled, while 5th columnists and corroborators bred.

      The result is a Europe operated and populated by Vichy dhimmis.

      • Pete says

        May 24, 2017 at 12:48 pm

        Excuses, I meant of course *collaborators*.

    • Savvy Kafir says

      May 25, 2017 at 2:45 am

      It’s not just Europe that’s suffering from a dearth of alpha males, at a time when they’re badly needed. I sometimes think there’s hardly a drop of testosterone left in the entire liberal community. I myself am a progressive/libertarian mongrel of sorts, and I have never understood how so many men on the political left could be so soft and helpless and naive, so weapons-adverse, so passive when faced by a savage enemy, instead of standing up and fighting back. It’s unnatural & sickening. And it makes me fear for the future of the civilized world.

  3. Westman says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Let’s suppose that United Airlines had a fault in their aircraft that periodically, say, once a month, caused a deadly crash that often killed residents on the ground as well as passengers. Would the BBC be saying “you must live with this new reality”?

    Even Theresa May doesn’t believe that nonsense and is placing 3500 armed soldiers in strategic locations.

    The BBC must be where leftist pseudo-intellectuals go to pontificate and spend their days, insulated from reality. One should be aware that an Oxford dialect is not an indicator of common sense and might be the voice of inexperience.

    • Shmooviyet says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:48 am

      Excellent comment!
      Had a distant cousin at BBC in the 90s; he was a cartoonish figure, with the air of superiority and “Oxford dialect” to match.

      • carlos danger says

        May 24, 2017 at 8:59 pm

        Now to get hidred at the BEEB you need to be a transgendered lesbian immigrant with a speech impediment.

  4. mortimer says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:07 am

    The only way to stop the attacks is to convince Muslims that Islam is false. This can be done only if governments finance and develop protocols to COMPLETELY DEPROGRAM MUSLIMS RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM.

    INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES ! ARE YOU LISTENING?

    • duh swami says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:16 am

      Talk is cheap…You need to offer them something bigger and better than Allah’s Paradise…got anything like that?

    • Jerry says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:23 am

      “… COMPLETELY DEPROGRAM MUSLIMS RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM.”

      Well, in a way I think you’re right, Mortimer, just not in the way you mean it. We’d never be able to deprogram millions upon millions of muslims in a way you seem to be suggesting. Simply trying to do such a thing would be deemed an offense they’d kill us for. It’s a minor miracle when even one muslim overcomes their religious brainwashing for allah, but millions?

      You’re dreaming.

      No, instead we “deprogram” them by standing firm for our democratic ideals and human rights. We don’t do what the left does and lie for them and make excuses. No, instead we speak the brutal truth about the violence and bigotry their religion is causing. New anti-sharia laws would be another way to deprogram them, and so might immigration reform that restricts the spread of their “religion” which everyone knows is a serious security risk on every level of western society. Then after they make the necessary changes we could reconsider, like after they remove the violent teachings from their religion which is really fascism with a peaceful name.

      So in way I agree with you, just not quite like you mean it.

      • NEW HERE says

        May 24, 2017 at 7:03 pm

        But they will still riot and burn down our cities.

    • Wellington says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:24 pm

      Good luck with that, mortimer. Lots of luck because you’re going to need it.

    • Bill W. says

      May 24, 2017 at 5:23 pm

      They can not be deprogram they only deprograming that works is to leave Islam, the Germans gave up Nazism when the were total defeated. The moslems will give up Islam when they are total defeated, isolate deport arrest all that preach killing raping, stealing ect. That pretty much says you have to leave Islam to be deprogramed. Main stream Islam will always clash with any other way of life then its own that is how it programed that is how it worked for the last 1400 years. If the people immigrated from some where the head hunting was a way of life would we accept it? If people immigrated for somewhere were eating your first born was a custom would we accept it? Why are we accepting Islam because there is a lot of them, they are angry , unhappy ,who gives a f**k !

    • gravenimage says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:28 pm

      Mortimer wrote:

      The only way to stop the attacks is to convince Muslims that Islam is false. This can be done only if governments finance and develop protocols to COMPLETELY DEPROGRAM MUSLIMS RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM.
      ……………………..

      Mortimer, you keep flogging this, but have been unable to point to a single case where this has ever worked.

      Why would pious Muslims listen to the “filthy Infidels”?

  5. mortimer says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:11 am

    Emmanuel Macron, former Prime Minister Manuel Valls, and now useful idiot Katty Kay tells the downtrodden toiling masses what they MUST do… accept the Muslim invasion and accept their jihad against Western civilization. They give no reason WHY we must accept it.

    IF POLITICIANS WERE BEING MURDERED EVERY WEEK BY JIHADISTS, THEY’D BLOODY WELL DO SOMETHING ABOUT JIHADISM, wouldn’t they?

  6. Diane Harvey says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:14 am

    “Europe has to get used to this”

    Ya know, I could get used to “this” if the victims were consistently the ever-so-smug people like Katy Kay and others in the MSM.

    Western civilization build itself without “this.” Now we have “to get used to this?”

    • Tom says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:24 am

      What she really means is bow down to Islam and appease them at every opportunity, only then, when they have total control and we live under Sharia Law will it be peaceful.

      So Brits don’t worry all will become “normal” if you just accept that attacks are just what you have to put up with to eventually live peacefully (as slaves).

      Get up off the couch, turn off the damn tv, and get out on the streets protesting, or at the very least start writing letters to MP’s and the MSM.

      • Phil Copson says

        May 24, 2017 at 6:10 pm

        Yep, for the average BBC presenter, it’s far more important to sneer at Donald Trump than to save the women and children of this country from muslim savages; today, in an account of him meeting the Pope, they found time to dismiss him as “a billionaire who doesn’t much like immigrants”.

        I wrote to my MP several months ago asking him if he could tell me exactly why and when the decision had been taken to hand the country over to Islam, but strangely – he didn’t reply…..

  7. Richard Paulsen says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:15 am

    Sure, so far nazis have murdered more in Europe than muslims have. Muslims not that dangerous, yet.

    • rich mills says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:15 am

      the muslims have murdered far more elsewhere. tens of millions were killed in india which nearly destroyed the hindu culture. in fact the figures killed through history are estimated at 280 to 300m. this at least as bad as fascism and communism if not more.
      your last line is ludicrous, sure lets wait until they are more dangerous, superb logic.

    • Pamela Stein says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:25 am

      You’re a fucking moron. The last caliphate ended less than 100yrs ago. That caliphate lasted 1200 yrs and slaughtered 270M people – ALL Non believers and Apostates.
      See its idiots like you that spew dumb ignorant bs like that without having a fucking clue what you’re even talking about and the equally dumbass ppl who agree with your dumbass statements that’s got us into this mess. You sit around in your echo chamber virtue signaling to each other about your moral superiority and patting each other on the back at how awesome you are for being so tolerant while the rest of the world picks their children up from the morgue with bodies so badly mangled that they can’t even kiss them goodbye. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. Here’s an idea you blithering fucking idiot, open a book and shut your stupid mouth.

    • Wellington says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:21 pm

      Aside from the fact that the Islamic world over some 1400 years murdered far more than the Nazis did, and the Nazis did indeed murder millions, your point is irrelevant because Nazis aren’t murdering anyone anymore but Muslims are, over 30,000 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide just since 9/11. You fight the evil du jour and now that is Islam, not Nazism. And yes all of Islam. It’s as rotten to the core as Nazism was. Indeed, in many ways Islam serves as the prototype for Nazism, what with its world conquest ambitions, its inclination to wage war, its singling out certain groups of human beings for second-class status or death (only the groupings are different), its lack of a true Golden Rule for all, and its inveterate hostility to liberty.

      Wake the hell up, Richard Paulsen. Soon like. That is if your able and I have doubts about this.

    • NEW HERE says

      May 24, 2017 at 7:06 pm

      yet…

    • gravenimage says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:33 pm

      Richard, are you being sarcastic?

  8. Tom says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:18 am

    NEVER, NEVER, SURRENDER to this politically correct crap. Remain vigilant and work toward a goal of destroying not only political correctness, by voting out left wing liberalist appeasers, but also the grip that the muslim brotherhood has on our political systems.

    Do both of those and we are well on the way to winning this war.

  9. John A. Marre says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:20 am

    She’s right. The leaders are doing nothing but weeping and lighting candles. They know that their votes will come from the Muslims among them, not from the current occupants of Britain.
    So they sniff and their voices choke, and they go right back to their standard policies.

    • Tom says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:27 am

      Leaders can be replaced !!
      People are not lemmings they have the power to unite and demonstrate and take back their country.

      The control of this is in the hands of the people not the “leaders”.

    • Bill W. says

      May 24, 2017 at 5:32 pm

      I am an American I pray for you in Europe , you have to put better leaders in, we have our problems here too. I think you guys are about 15 years further down the road to Dhimmitude we will be joining you if we can not turn this around.

  10. duh swami says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:20 am

    ‘Surrender Hell.’..Get used to it is the mantra of a coward…

  11. Richard Paulsen says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:21 am

    Very seldom journalists are victims of terrorattacks. How come? Is there a secret agreement? Just others children and parents.

    • Tom says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:30 am

      It’s because they appease Islam by not printing negative articles or cartoon depictions of their prophet.

      If we all just capitulated to Islam all the terror attacks would stop, don’t ya know that !!

    • JayT says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm

      Richard Paulsen says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:21 am

      Very seldom journalists are victims of terrorattacks. How come? Is there a secret agreement? Just others children and parents.
      ——————————————————————————————

      They saw what happened to Daniel Pearl? They saw the sexual assault on Lara Logan, the 60 minutes correspondent, when she was in Egypt covering the Mubarak uprising? They probably concluded after those and other incidents it’s not worth the paycheck and better to conduct interviews over twitter or other similar media.

    • gravenimage says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:44 pm

      Richard, you are mistaken.

      Besides the cases Jay notes, James Foley and Steven Sotloff were beheaded by ISIS a couple of years ago.

      Just about a mile from where I live, journalist Chauncey Bailey, who was investigating Your Black Muslim Bakery, was gunned down by them in 2007.

      Seventy journalists were killed in 2013, seventy-four the previous year. Not all of these were targeted killings, but many were.

      I get the point you are trying to make, but it is not accurate.

      The stupidity you see from so many in the press has more to do with willful ignorance and “political correctness” than it does with secret pacts with Jihadists.

  12. Steve Klein says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:31 am

    ‘DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship.
    DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities.
    DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and
    DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH….’

    This is refreshing talk but of course we know or we should know, they will not drive them out because they know these are devout fellow believers who are following the example of the prophet of Islam.

  13. Ex Muslim Against Islam says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:45 am

    Get used to the slaughter of children and other innocents?! Callous doesn’t even cover it!

    The solution is pretty simple:

    1) No more immigration from the Muslim world

    2) Expel those Muslims here who refuse to denounce the Sharia & violent verses in the Quran

    3) Ban hate preachers and close down mosques promoting hatred towards and separatism from the host society

    3) Expel those who have been consistently prosecuted and found guilty of serious criminal (not just terrorism but fraud, drug dealing, gang violence etc.) wrongdoing

    The afore-mentioned proposals are entirely reasonable (no hint of violence in them at all). Yet many liberals would call me a fascist (whilst defending an ultra-right wing religion like Islam). Oh the irony!

  14. Vishnupaundraka says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:47 am

    You idiot!!! so easy to comment from the studios isn’t it not? Would you do the same if your kith and kin lost life or limb?

  15. Tom says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:56 am

    As Islam has been proven to be a radical form of geopolitical totalitarianism, simply ban Islam from being practiced in western countries, not the people, and those that want to follow Islam can be told to “get used to it” if they want to continue living in the west.

    Turn the tables on Islam if we want to defeat the takeover and Jihad.

  16. Norger says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:02 am

    How about closing mosques and expelling hate preachers? Can the BBC “get used to” that? Why should people in a civilized society think that “getting used to” jihad terror is an even a remotely acceptable response at this point?

  17. A European says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:15 am

    Western leaders still fail (deliberately) to grasp the nature of Islam. Islam is a set of beliefs that draws a clear distinction between friend und foe. Those who submit to Allah and Islam are friends, living in the “house of Islam,” those who reject Islam, are enemies, living in the “house of war.”Any true believer who adheres to the doctrines of Islam believes in this distinction, too. He will consider us -Westerners, Christians, Jews, Atheists, Liberals- to be his enemies and he will fight western civilisation by force or by stealth. Islamic organisations that talk about Islam as being a “religion of peace,” or condemning islamic terrorists as brothers who had been led astray, as highjackers of a wonderful religion, are just dissemblers. They pay only lip-services to freedom and democracy, they will never disown their fellow muslims, calling them traitors to Islam, unbelievers or heretics.No. Even high.ranking theologians and preachers from Al-Azar University in Cairo told journalists: “Oh yes, the members of ISIS are criminals, but they are not un-islamic. Therefore, we cannot condemn them as heretics”. Wake up, folks! Islam is at war with western countries and societies and this war won’t be over, just because we refuse to engage the enemy.
    When Napoleon invaded Russia, russian troops were first retreating, refusing any great battle. It was, of course, a tactical retreat, and when the time had come, the Russians fought back and drove the invader out of their country.

  18. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:25 am

    Katty is right, we *are* gonna have to get used to jihad mass murder. Sure, we can clamp down on Islamophobia, the root cause of it, but we’ll never completely muzzle hate speech. Katty is right because the only way to stop jihad mass murder in Dar al-Harb would be to deport all Moslems, or make the practice of Islam and possession of a Holy Ko-Ran a felony crime in civilized nations and deport those who violate the new law. And we can’t do that. So let’s quit whining, get used to the occasional jihad mass murder event and be thankful that we weren’t the ones killed or maimed.

  19. David says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:36 am

    Dateline: London, September 1939. Nazis invade Poland. Entire towns massacred. Nazi planes blitz London. The city is in flames. BBC says Europe must get used to it.

    • gravenimage says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:52 pm

      +1

  20. Dawn says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:52 am

    The mosque probably most of the time is where they learn it. Here in Canada Quebec mosque have been preaching hate against the jews. Nothing is being done about it. What is it going to take for our governments to stand up to Islam and its teachings. No government wants to call it what it is because they are a bunch of babies. They are coming across the borders with the refugees . They are not being properly vetted and it is impossible to vet them properly. UK and Europe are being taken over by Muslims. Women are being raped and cars being burnt and more types of violence. When are you all going to wake up. When something happens they cry Islamaphobia and we fall for it. They make themselves sound like they are the victims . The rapist is the victim how discusting. We have our prayer vigeles sorry spelt that wrong. Then we just move on like nothing happens. There is something wrong with the picture. What are we going to do about it..

    • D-spot says

      May 24, 2017 at 3:15 pm

      Like your post Dawn. Here’s a thought…..for every person killed by these unspeakable extremists, take the fight back in a non-violent reprisal. 10 Imams deported and 10 mosques closed. This to me would send a very clear message, murder and mutilation, raped women and children, ruined lives will not be tolerated and 10 to 1 sounds about right. Thoughts and prayers accomplish nothing, the call to ‘wake up’……then what? has to backed up with action, politicians aren’t listening and apparently have no plans to deal with the next atrocity. safe in their protected and gated communities.

      • Terry says

        May 25, 2017 at 5:23 pm

        Today May 25, 2017) IN JEWISH WORLD REVIEW- an excellent essay by a MR. BAWER (forgot his first name) .

        ABOUT THE COWARDLY POLITICIANS—like the Mayor of Orlando, ” we are in solidarity” and similar crap.

        The mayor of Manchester, incidentally, is a far left lefty socialist.

        He is critical especially of Merkel and Britain-and (with out saying Mr. Spencer and Ms. Geller-implies them) as being banned, while hate preaching Muslims are allowed.

        A great read

  21. miriamrove says

    May 24, 2017 at 12:12 pm

    May be EU, but not here and not us. m

  22. Mike says

    May 24, 2017 at 12:16 pm

    Trump isn’t just the President of the USA or the “leader of the free world”.

    He is turning out to be the beacon of hope for all normal people who want this to stop.

    THANK YOU DONALD. Even though I’m not American, you’re my president a lot more than my PM is!

  23. common sense says

    May 24, 2017 at 12:17 pm

    Remember over there as here, polliticians only job is how to spend our money and get re-elected. The press won’t change the talking point as issued by their over lords., they are in lock step. We have to interrupt them. Id say Trump and Brexit is a start.

  24. Lynn says

    May 24, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    The British government immediately called out the army to protect Buckingham Palace, 10 Downing Street, and Parliament. They have done little or nothing to protect the British people except to tell them to get used to being attacked.

  25. Walter Sieruk says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:29 pm

    That statement by Katty Kay that “Europe has to get used to this was not only wrong and nonsensical but also callous and heartless. Maybe Kay should walk over to the family members of the people who were murdered by that murderous jihadist bomber, Manchester, and tell them that. . Would she actually be so cold and ignorant as to tell them such a horrible thing ? For that in deed, would be a very cold , ignorant and horrible thing to say to family member as well as friends of the dead victims of the jihad -minded Muslim suicide-homicide bomber .
    Furthermore, if Kay had a loved one who was murdered by a jihadist she probably would not feel like that . Likewise if Kay was maimed and maimed terribly in a jihad attack she would most likely complain with awful bitterness that the different government of Europe did’t come down the Muslim terrorists had enough.

  26. Walter Sieruk says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:44 pm

    Katty Kay saying that “Europe has get used to this .” is a statement that is very inappropriate as well as outrageous. The people of Europe should not have to”get used to” or tolerate the many evils of Islamic terrorism to any degree. Common sense and a basic knowledge and understand in of the different between right and wrong is all that need to understand the the governmental law enforcement authorities have every right to come down hard on those evil men who are Muslim terrorist. Furthermore the Bible teaches that government do have every right to capture and punish evil doers .Even by the use of capital punishment, Exodus 21:12. Romans 13:1-4.

  27. JayT says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    “Get used to it” and “Just accept it as part of daily life” seem to be the more recent tactics leaders of targeted countries are using nowadays.

    Do we have our own such parasites dressed in the American flag within the U.S.? Of course we do. Congressman Elijah Cummings said as much to a reporter sometime last year. These *surrenderists* often point to Israel and say if they can get used to rocket and bomb attacks on a daily basis, why then so can you.

    Given the source being Elijah Cummings it wasn’t a surprise to me he said that. No, what is surprising to me is who is it that goes around scrubbing and taking down such videos from YouTube and the internet in general? Each time I want to go back and find such a video–it’s gone. Well, at least the video of the other Muslim Congressman Andre Dawson saying American schools should be modeled after Madrassas with the Quran as their foundation is still around–for now.

    I wish Jihad Watch had enough resources to store these kind of videos on their own servers to be preserved against such scrubbing. But that takes a good deal of resources, time, and people power. We know the main news outlets who do have such resources sure won’t be doing that.

  28. Terry says

    May 24, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    I heard (just a part-missed who said it) but someone on ABC (ALL BULL CRAP) WAS UPSET AND CRITICAL OF PRES. TRUMP FOR CALLING TERRORISTS “EVIL LOSERS”.

    Missed the rest of the commentary

    • gravenimage says

      May 25, 2017 at 1:02 am

      Good God–now criticizing Jihad murderers of children is frowned upon. What utter madness.

  29. More Ham Ed says

    May 24, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    I thought this was a really good concise and recent presentation:

  30. gravenimage says

    May 24, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    BBC host on Manchester jihad massacre: “Europe has to get used to this”
    ………………………….

    **Why?** Just twenty years ago–less, really–there was nothing like this on a regular basis.

    I know some even here at Jihad Watch have been hoping for *more* Jihad terror attacks, in the hope that it would finally wake some dhimmis up.

    But I always know that for some of these suicidal idiots this would just become the “new normal”–and worse, that they would demand that we accept it as the new normal, as well.

  31. Guest says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    Report the facts not your opinions.

    • Carolyne says

      May 25, 2017 at 9:42 am

      I believe this is an opinion forum. We may give our opinions on the facts which Mr. Spencer presents to us. Wherever did you get the idea that we could not? We are not reporters.

  32. Georg says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    Vile

  33. Ali Bey says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    Mein Kampf was forbidden after the second WW, even that having the Nazis lost the war the diffussion and selling of that book would not suppose any minimum danger. Yet the Nazis only wanted to expand eastwards and get rid of Jews. Koran and all the Islamic literature promotes overtly the political conquest of all the world and the elimination of not one etnia but the slaughtering of all that are not theirs. The so called islamic (/I like better koranic instead of islamic) terrorist attacks are simply the first squirmishes of the global war to come, being the jihadists the elite corps comparable to the SS or special forces of the Wermacht.

    • gravenimage says

      May 25, 2017 at 1:05 am

      Ali Bey wrote:

      Yet the Nazis only wanted to expand eastwards and get rid of Jews.
      ………………………..

      An apologist for savagery and genocide. *Ugh*.

  34. Julia in Canada says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:48 pm

    It is absolutely shocking to read that Katty Kay, a journalist and BBC announcer should take such an ignorant stance over the horror visited by the citizens of Manchester endured this week. I was an admirer of Ms Kay because she appeared to portray much professional in her work as a broadcaster for what I had always believed was one of the worlds’ excellent televison organizations. Now that this feeling has been destroyed by her lack of understanding of what the Muslim world has set upon us, I will only hope that she will come to her senses and change such a dreadful belief that we “just have to get used to this terrible menace facing our once safe and decent world. If she has children, her remarks are just appalling after the carnage born by such wonderful youngsters and their grieving parents.

    • Kiki says

      May 24, 2017 at 9:21 pm

      I suspect Ms. Kay didn’t really think her words through all the way. Still, you’re right, we can’t accept attacks like this–especially not attacks that killed so many children and teens.

  35. American Pragmatism says

    May 24, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    I heard Manchester Mayor also said “We have to get used to this.”

    • Ace-of-Clubs says

      May 24, 2017 at 6:08 pm

      Manchester Mayor is ex Labour politician, so expect him to be licking the Muslim arses and apologising for Islam at every opportunity. In Britain now, people can get arrested for “Islamophobic” comments in public or in the social media, whilst there are Muslim ghettos all across the old industrial cities where a new generation of terrorist has been allowed to flourish. Saudi Arabia is behind this global war. Note how it radicalised the Muslims in Belgium for example. And has Saudi taken one single refugee from Syria or Iraq ? That tented village at Mecca could house over a million refugees but they have done nothing.

    • gravenimage says

      May 25, 2017 at 1:06 am

      The Muslim mayor of London–I still gag writing this–said the same thing.

  36. Michael Casmer says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:24 pm

    If they kill all of the indigenous population, and they themselves breed like rats, eventually they will prevail. Get it liberals?

    • Carolyne says

      May 25, 2017 at 9:49 am

      And once they kill the indigenous population and breed like rats, what will they do? They are incapable of having an orderly country or inventing anything to make life better. They have married their first cousins through the centuries and their brains are deficient. England and the rest of Western Europe will be like their own countries. What will they accomplish except murder?

  37. utis says

    May 24, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    Europe may be dying, but don’t accept that attitude here, America, not from the MSM, not from political or religious leaders. Most of us are here because we wouldn’t take things lying down, not persecution, not famine, not poverty imposed from above. There’s no where else to run. Fight the double-plague here (both islam and brain-rotting leftism) or leave nothing to your grand-kids but what the caliph lets them have.

  38. Peter says

    May 24, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    No, Europe doesn’t have to get used to this. Nor is this the “new norm.” Societies have choices. In this case, it is submission (to Islamic supremacism and Leftist cultural suicide), resignation to the “new norm” (and gradual submission), or reassertion of national identity, will and power to confront and rollback the two aforementioned threats (and those who engage in submission and resignation).

    • Kiki says

      May 24, 2017 at 9:20 pm

      Agreed. We all have a choice here.

      I choose to speak for modern life, freedom, peace….I’ll never accept jihad, oppression of women, or terrorist attacks as an inevitable part of life.

      There was once a time before suicide bombings and jihad; there can be again if the west holds firm on our beliefs, and Islam is reformed.

      • Savvy Kafir says

        May 25, 2017 at 1:43 am

        Islam cannot be reformed. But it can be expelled from the West.

    • gravenimage says

      May 25, 2017 at 1:08 am

      Hear, hear, Peter!

  39. Savvy Kafir says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Muslims will have to get used to being deported from the West, en masse. That’s the only solution.

  40. Blangwort says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Here’s my suggestion: She can “get used” to having her daughters blown to bits.

    I refuse. If such vermin ever perpetrate a horror like this where I live, they’d better be ready for a disproportionate reaction.

    Getting used to this is what the British have been doing. How well has it stopped anything?

  41. Henry jones says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    I don’t think she was being careless or non chalant or disrespectful. It sounded as tho she was speaking the truth that if countries are going to continue to be wussified nations and bend and appease and worry more about being PC than the safety and welfare of their people, than yeah, they better get a tub of Vaseline and bend over.

    Those who sacrifice freedom and liberty for peace, deserve neither.

  42. Singh the Sikh says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    If Katty Batty is correct, than terrorism has won. Which means Teresa May was lying this week when she said we will never be defeated by terrorism. Which also means all those European leaders were lying after every massacre. What will this bitch say next? We should all convert to Islam? This dumbo is more than just a joke. She is extremely dangerous in her stupidity. So is the BBC.

    • Kiki says

      May 24, 2017 at 9:16 pm

      I know, I was shocked by her words. Granted, maybe her words came out wrong, maybe she spoke without thinking….but the argument that we should NEVER accept terrorism still stands.

      Government leaders may not want to do much, but that’d when the people need to pressure them to.

  43. Kiki says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    No one should have to get used to this…..jihadists are genocidal murderers, out to kill all non-Muslims and any Muslims who dare to disagree with them. We can never accept genocide as part of our life.

    It’s like with car accidents–we know we can’t prevent every accident, but we’ll sure as hell try to! And we need to do the same here, even if we can’t prevent everything we can at least try.

    Everyone, write to your government officials. Spread the word on social media. Write letters to editors of newspapers. Debate civilly, and help open people’s minds to the fact that, yes, we should still fight against jihadists.

  44. Matthieu Baudin says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    “…DRIVE THEM OUT of your places of worship.
    DRIVE THEM OUT of your communities.
    DRIVE THEM OUT of your holy land, and
    DRIVE THEM OUT OF THIS EARTH…”

    Very refreshing Christine. At the moment President Trump is still a stand alone figure; a fighter for human dignity amongst a large pool of lackluster international political leaders. The independent minded Central European Leaders will likely draw closer to Mr Trump once the U.K. and Deutschland elections are behind us and then it won’t be so ‘lonely at the top’. The empty handed defeatism of Ms May and others is a recipe for a retreat from the high level of ‘social trust’ that has characterised many, perhaps most, European societies but that’s also a standout feature of North American, Japanese, Singaporean, New Zealand and Australian communities. This is the most valued core of our current Universal Civilisation, the feature we must fight ‘on the offensive’ to safeguard.

  45. Joe says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:11 pm

    Yep, get used to be enslaved, raped, killed. There is nothing you can do. Just pay the tax to support a useless government, buy useless newspapers which tell you to do nothing, watch useless tv which brainwashes you and hope all will be well. For sure it will. Just have faith and hope. Do not ever get the idea of fighting back and give your useless government a boot! That’s racist and islamophobe. lol

  46. Monty says

    May 25, 2017 at 1:30 am

    Katty Kay is quite right. Since none of the authorities in Western Europe will even admit to the cause of the problem, let alone provide a solution, violence in then name of Mohamed will continue. It is something like an anti-vaxxer saying that we just accept epidemics of terrible diseases. I got whooping cough as a very young child and it near killed me. Lots of others were less fortunate. There is a vaccine but still no cure. Whooping cough still kills. Anyone who refuses to vaccinate their child is an idiot. Anyone who refuses to face up to the dangers of Islam is no better. Anti-vaxxers have no real evidence that vaccination is more harmful than not. There is far more evidence to the contrary. Yet they persist in their doubts. So, Europe, get used to Islam running and ruining the show. You refuse even to see the root cause, let alone take action to protect your own people.

  47. Carolyne says

    May 25, 2017 at 9:37 am

    It is my belief that every Moslem, no matter how peaceful and friendly he seems, is actually proud of these Jihad attacks and eggs them on by not condemning them. They cannot condemn what is stated in their holy books as commanded by Go.

  48. Ali Bey says

    May 25, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    No apology. Only comparison to remark that Islam is much far more evil in intentions that evil German Nazism was in achievement of its criminal program. Aghhh…

  49. a marvin says

    May 27, 2017 at 10:30 pm

    What a brain damaged moron ! If Americans do not follow the law in other countries they kick us out and with with good reason. Return to the time when visiting or moving to other countries required you to prove you were not a criminal. Immigrants entered the US at Ellis Island and Angel Island. Some were returned, that was just the way it was, and no one had a problem with the rules. Maybe this is Europe’s idea of fun, so keep inviting these murders and rapists into your country and continue to tell us just how wonderful it is when they slaughter.

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