What special accommodation has Brooklyn Tech made for Jewish religious observance? Christian religious observance? That’s right, Brooklyn Tech hasn’t made any such accommodation.
Notice also how in this accommodation to Muslim students, all non-Muslim students at the prom have to be inconvenienced and made to comply with Islamic religious laws. Imagine the outcry if Brooklyn Tech forced all Muslim students to change their behavior in order to accommodate some Jewish or Christian religious practice: the outcry would be immediate and vociferous. But such a thing, of course, would never happen.
“The principal also met with the Muslim Student Association Tuesday to make sure this never happens again.”
The principal knows who the new overlords are. The principal knows who can destroy careers with charges of “Islamophobia.”
“Brooklyn school won’t move prom over Ramadan conflict,” by Kemberly Richardson, WABC, May 23, 2017 (thanks to Creeping Sharia):
FORT GREENE, Brooklyn (WABC) — Brooklyn Tech seniors will gather at Pier Sixty for the prom on June 3, but not all their classmates will be able to attend the big bash at the hot spot billed as the largest waterfront venue in Manhattan.
The party this year falls during Ramadan, a month-long time of religious fasting and prayer for observant Muslims.
“Obviously the date wasn’t the best date,” said senior Pakeza Sahbbir, who will be not attending. “You’re not suppose to listen to music during Ramadan, so that’s why it’s not really allowed.”
In an online petition, students are asking school officials to move the prom to another day so that everyone can participate. About 1,300 students go to Brooklyn Tech, but the school does not track religious affiliation.
“I know how it feels to fast,” student Saima Afrin said. “I feel very tired throughout the day, so I won’t want to go out. I’d sleep and stuff.”
In an effort to accommodate everyone, school officials said they won’t serve food at the prom until 9 p.m., after fasting ends at sundown.
The principal also met with the Muslim Student Association Tuesday to make sure this never happens again….
eur says
Ohhh. But there will be music and you can not listen to music during the ramadan, or dance, or sing ….. can you see how beautiful Islam is?
David Ramseur says
Even fasting is corrupted in Islam. It is all about “look at me, see how devout I am, complain complain, people please people please”. Jesus said, when you fast, let no one know that you are fasting. Also, don’t disfigure your faces so that it is shown you are fasting. Then your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you. In Islam, all fasting is, is a display of superiority. Everything in Islam is directed towards that end. But the greatest will be the least among you and the servant of all. Islam is Christianity flipped on its head. And some people actually believe they are in any way similar. On the moral spectrum, these religions are on opposite extremes.
Pere LaChaise says
Good point David, by your writing it sounds like you actually have experience with fasting according to the Christian tradition.
The notion of Christians (whose tradition of Great Lent and other fasts was appropriated and mangled by the moslems) demanding accommodation for their fasts is entirely unheard of in the West. We can thank the Catholic Church for disabisongnis of the notion of a corporate fast as it is adumbrated in the Orthodox tradition.
Slow clap.
Jews, Christians and Buddhists (who also have a Lent) must begin to militate for their own religious rights or they wil redound exclusively to the obstreperous moslems.
Gwen says
Same as the offensive public spectacle praying some Muslims do in Western Europe blocking roads, footpaths and on commons like gardens and parks. Outrageous and against Christian teachings, but no politicians here stand up for Christian beliefs and sensibilities. Our ways are not to be protected or even acknowledged. It’s heartbreaking to see our culture dissipating. All these accommodations for ‘diversity’ come with a cost or rather loss. We are not even politely allowed to be sad about losing our traditional way of life – that’s somehow racist.
Karen says
Well said, Gwen. We’re being ‘asked’ to go out with a whimper.
DRHazard says
Good point. Allah doesn’t even seem to care whether someone who claims to be a Muslim actually believes in Islam. You just have to pretend to believe.
gravenimage says
Ramadan is even worse than this–it is the month of blood and Jihad.
And this is what pious Muslims do to those who run afoul of Ramadan fasting:
“Islamic State crucifying Ramadan violators ‘every day’”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/06/islamic-state-crucifying-ramadan-violators-every-day
“Barbaric Islamic State crucify two children for ‘not fasting in Ramadan'”
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/586250/Islamic-State-ISIS-crucify-children-Ramadan-fasting
Notice that the victims *include children*.
God, I hate Islam.
Rob says
The guy who stood on the corner in sack cloth and ashes (already) had his reward.
abad says
Bingo.
Islam is all about attention whoring.
I call Islam, the religious version of the Kardashians because that is exactly what it is.
Attention whoring. Endlessly.
James says
Music is haram, full stop. So this prom will probably be haram. So why bother accommodating the Bombadan fast in the first place ?
gravenimage says
Because it Islamizes life in the West, James. That is its only purpose.
David M says
Exactly eur, no music! It’s incredible 1.5 billion humans follow this crap fake religion. That means there are at least 1.5 billion morons walking the earth.
mortimer says
Robert Spencer was right: WHERE IS THE ACCOMODATION FOR OTHER FAITHS???
There are about 4,200 DIFFERENT RELIGIONS in the world.
Why is Islam MORE SPECIAL than others?
BTW… Every religion thinks it is the ‘TRUE’ religion… not just Islam.
abad says
Uh huh – both music and dancing are banned in Islam. Muslims are not supposed to be attending proms at all.
mortimer says
This sort of thing makes an establishment of religion by forcing observance on those who are not members of that faith group. It is absolutely unconstitutional.
There should be a legal challenge to this principal that will end his career. When the school board has to pay the legal costs, they will stop allowing such offensive, unconstitutional stupidity.
Gwen says
Reminds me that most Australians can’t even avoid buying Islamic certified food, particularly fresh meat. You can check this out by visiting one of the major supermarkets online shopping websites. For example, at http://www.coles.com.au, there are 469 ‘halal’ products and 147 ‘no halal’ products. Many others are not truthfully labelled. 2% of the Australian population identifies as Islamic.
Again, how are Christian beliefs and traditions to be honoured with this sort of religious discrimination becoming entrenched? Refer to the Biblical verses on food to quietly explain your objection (and there are many) and get called a Christian fundamentalist, racist or Islamophff…
It is exhausting to need to fight for every little thing, all the traditions and freedoms we took for granted.
Alex Lanzman says
Robert,
Your figure of 1300 students is wrong. Currently, Brooklyn Tech has over 5600 students. Please correct
Robert Spencer says
Alex Lanzman:
That is not my figure. It comes from WABC, as is clearly marked in the post. Please direct your complaints to them. Thank you.
Alex Lanzman says
Robert, it is not a complaint, and my figures come from the ny department of education. Additionally, I am a brooklynite and am very familiar with the high school. Please understand, I think you do fabulous, courageous work that I fully support, but inaccuracies should be fixed when they occur. Your detractors are looking for them in order to discredit you. I do not want them to have any ammunition
With respect and admiration,
Alex
gravenimage says
Alex, there might be that many students going to prom.
mortimer says
Students should stage a protest and on signal, they should produce food they have brought into the hall and eat it as a protest to the principal’s stupidity.
Ham sandwiches and bacon are recommended but optional.
somehistory says
I was thinking the same thing. When hungry, pull out a sandwich.
And what about any students who, because of medical conditions, can’t wait until that late to eat?
somehistory says
How about Kosher hot dogs?
Eur says
Kosher? Ohhhh don’t be islamophobic!!!!
somehistory says
Hebrew National is the only kind I buy.
Tom W Harris says
Hebrew National? How insensitive. /s
WPM says
The students should pool there money get 30 pizzas delivery with bacon as one of the topping on each and every pie!
abad says
Not a bad idea at that.
My guess is, Islam having its home in the Middle East, can you imagine its followers going without water during sunlight hours in the desert?
No. Brain. Cells.
That is probably what makes Muslims even more murderous during Ramadan than ever before.
If the human body and the brain (the brain is made up of about 75% water) is deprived of the one substance necessary for individual survival, then yes, it is going to cause an adverse effect on the sick Muslim mind.
Gen Jones says
If they are that pious they wouldn’t be going to prom in the first place.
gravenimage says
True, Gen. How many ways is prom Haram? Music, the mixing of unrelated girls and boys, dancing, touching while dancing, and fun in general.
But Muslims never miss a chance to impose Shari’ah norms on the “filthy Kuffar”. No food during Ramadan now–later, they will try to shut down prom altogether.
abad says
Precisely.
That is why a Muslim in the United States really is a fish out of water.
Muslims are much better off being in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan instead of any given western nation.
Their way of life and “values” are in direct opposition to our own.
gravenimage says
Their purpose in the West is to turn our civilized nations into Islamic sh*t holes.
The Istanbulian says
When I was in school and Rosh Hashannah or Yom Kippur fell on days that I wanted to do things, it was tough tatties for me. I was in temple and not at the football games.
Oliver says
Me also. On New York city
abad says
I went to a private high school that did not have any proms or dances period. I also had friends who attended public school, some who did go to the school dance, some who didn’t. Frankly, had the school I attended have any proms or dances I would not have gone. It was not in my priority. Unlike many, I was never educated “alongside” my future husband. I consider that to be a good thing too.
somehistory says
Is each moslum girl attending taking along a male relative? Will these girls be dancing…touching and being touched? Will they make sure no boy with whom they associate is not of their species?
Mac-101 says
Are they gonna wear a black bag also?
Paul Casale Sr says
Will they only serve fish on a Friday because of Catholics ?
John A. Marre says
Ohh, how nice and considerate. With every action like this, Sharia gains more ground, invades more spaces, takes control over more people. Before long, it will be too late and impossible to roll back, and idiots will be asking “How did this happen? Why didn’t anybody warn us?”
We did. See Jihadwatch.org.
gravenimage says
Yup.
Benedict says
The idea of showing respect for a religion that’s excels in disrespect and cruelty is preposterous. Even Muslims themselves are ridiculed by Islam, since turning people into mechanical puppets and reciting parrots, promising them eternal bliss for their hypocritical, theatrical performances, is nothing but cruel mockery.
marina says
As the number of Muslims increase so does their demands. More of their kind means they become bold and arrogant. It will get worse as more Muslims come into this country.
Mickey says
This is exactly how it begins with these people coming here expecting us to change or culture, values, and traditions. They have no rights. They are supposed to assimilate to our Country not the other way around. What is wrong with the parents of the American kids? Why are the kids protesting? They really need to start standing up for this Country and our values. If not, then these Islamists win and have already begun their Jihad.
Alien Republican says
Mickey, the worst part wih all likelyhood is that they didn’t even need to ask but some virtue signaling dimmie-wit made a decision for the rest.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Alien Republican.
Brian Hoff says
You are so wrong first you are unwilling to accept other cultures the hot dog came from the Germany who came to American. The bagel came from the jewish people who came to American.
WPM says
To Brian Hoff and how would you feel is Catholics said that on Friday no one could eat red meat during lent, or if Jews said all stores had to close at Sun down on Friday and not reopen until Sunday? There are Jewish stories that close on Friday Night and do not reopen till Sunday in some parts of Williamsberg and Boro park. The owners do not demand everyone else shut there stores ! If you want to pray, fast, bark at the moon go right ahead ,but do not demand everyone that is not a follower of your beliefs has to do it. As far what you can or cannot eat and when you eat it that is your choice . In America no one tells you your diet or your time table for eating. As far as culture goes these Islamic can fast and not go to the prom, .
Michael Casmer says
Dear WPM. Its not just red meat, but all meat. Its not Richard Simmons’ religion.
gravenimage says
“Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–wrote:
You are so wrong first you are unwilling to accept other cultures the hot dog came from the (sic) Germany who came to American. The bagel came from the jewish (sic) people who came to American.
………………………..
Is “DefenderofIslam” suggesting that violent Jihad terrorism and stoning women to death in Shari’ah are fun imports like hot dogs and bagels?
WPM says
Right like bombers vest a ‘ Islamic culture” import or beating your wife to a pulp a Islamic “culture import” honor killings ” Islamic culture import”. Yes these are just like hot dogs and bagels! Brian Hoff is either a Islamic Jihadist or a vacant headed progressive? I go with curtain #2 Islamic Jihadist!
gravenimage says
WPM, “Brian Hoff” used to post here as “DefenderofIslam” (actually, he usually misspelled this name in various ways).
He claims to be a Texan who converted to Islam. He is now intent on Islamizing America in every ugly way.
Tama says
It’s like a joke of zombie plague handicap section to have to set up.
Alien Republican says
Since when is prom islamic ? If they want to “respect” ramadan please don’t stop there but make the even gender segregated. Not touching of hands please.
James says
Prom is haram for at least 4 reasons:
1. It mixes the sexes
2. it features music
3. those there dress unIslamically
4. It treats Muslimin and Muslimahs and kuffar and mushrikun equally.
No good Muslim could possibly attend. I hope the security is all that it should be.
Dum Spiro says
“We’ve seen this before. There’s a
master race. Now there’s a master faith.”
— Benjamin Netanyahu
The prom should start and serve food at the usual times. Those who want to participate should adjust their schedules accordingly. Food for latecomers could be kept warm or cool as need be but should not adversely affect the other students. This should be seen as “common sense prom etiquette”…
— Spero
sam says
DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ashley says
Odd that this “no food until 9:00” detail isn’t mentioned on Brooklyn Tech’s Senior activity website:
http://www.bths.edu/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=244029&type=d&termREC_ID=&pREC_ID=469757
I wouldn’t be too happy forking over $185.00 with the expectation of “fine dining” only to be told “no food until 9:00.”
le mouron rouge says
“Where are you headed, Europe? Rise from your knees and from your lethargy, or you will be crying over your children every day. If you cannot see that terrorism has the potential to hurt every country in Europe, and you think that Poland should not defend itself, you are going hand in hand with those who point this weapon against Europe, against all of us. Do we want politicians who say we have to ‘get used to’ terrorist attacks?”
– Berta Syzdlo – Prime Minister of Poland
She could have said, “Where are you headed Nations of the World?”
Sadly, many, if not most of the institutions in the United States are headed by people who are on their knees at the altar of Secular Humanism, they are people who have drunk the Lefts/Progressive Cool-Aid and are succeeding in tearing this country apart.
The situation will only get worse, before and if, it’s gets better.
“The shepherd drives the wolf from the sheep’s for which the sheep thanks the shepherd as his liberator, while the wolf denounces him for the same act as the destroyer of liberty. Plainly, the sheep and the wolf are not agreed upon a definition of liberty.”
– Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
Tom says
is there no possibility to sue the school.
DRHazard says
Why don’t they just have a Muslim only prom? The guys would all be on one side and the girls on the other side (the ones that were allowed to go). Of course there wouldn’t be any music or dancing. It would be a sort of anti-prom. Which is why I am wondering what kind of Muslims NYC public schools are accommodating. They’re not REAL Muslims. A real Muslim would never be caught engaging in such a decadent Western tradition. But as we know the only true Muslim is a whiny hypocrite who can hold multiple contradictory beliefs at the same time.
Eur says
Fun for Muslims means going to eat an ice cream. They do not know how to do anything else, they have everything forbidden.they do not know how to enjoy life, they are the saddest people on the planet.
Joe says
If Hitler would’ve said Nazism is a religion they would probably roll down the swastika flags and celebrate him for at least the next 1400 years.
Ashley says
There’s something off about this story…at least to me.
Where’s the outrage from the non-Muslim seniors and their parents impacted by this? The school’s slick website promises the venue will deliver “Full Service White Glove Dining (Hors d’oeuvres, Appetizers, Entrée, Dessert).” At $185.00/person (non-refundable and prepaid a month ago), there is a reasonable expectation that at least hors d’oeuvres would be offered when the prom kicks off at 7:00.
Teenagers EAT! Pier Sixty can’t offer up a veggie/dip platter before 9:00? What are these teens expected to do for a couple of hours? This is THEIR big night. Dresses purchased, tuxedos rented, limos reserved. To be told “no food before 9:00” is outlandish.
As many have commented, what pious Muslim would even consider attending his/her senior prom? ESPECIALLY if he/she observed Ramadan? Music, dancing, concealed flasks of hooch…the venue always reeks of teenage sex.
So while these seniors sneak out for a smoke, toke or swig they now need to conceal a PB&J. Why? To accommodate a few Muslims that have no intention of attending the prom to begin with. UGH!
Why isn’t this story getting wider media attention? I see plenty of stories about the petition proposing a change of date but scant news on this 9:00 food bullshit.
gravenimage says
There is more and more of this sort of accommodation of Muslims in the West. Government employees in Britain were warned not to eat in front of Muslim employees–even though many people eat at their desks.
WPM says
If you are a female government employee to you have be dress in the cloth trash bag at your desk??I cannot eat in front of you ? Accommodate insane violent people leads to insane people demanding more.
Karen says
“In an effort to accommodate everyone, school officials said they won’t serve food at the prom until 9 p.m., after fasting ends at sundown.”
How is this accommodating everyone? Sounds like the non-Muslims are being forced to fast. Or even participate in a religious practice.
It very much sounds like the establishment of religion by the school.
Ashley says
EXACTLY!
pdxnag says
Muslims demand that the school deny food to non-Muslims until 9PM? I am shocked and “offended.”
We would not want to give a reason for Muslims here to act like Muslims elsewhere and violently assault anyone who dares to eat in their presence during Ramadan Bombathon For Allah.
Comply and they won’t kill you, at least not today.
gravenimage says
It is only “accommodating” *Muslims*.
WPM says
Give the moslems there own prom they could rent a big hall put out thousands of pray rugs, girls set up in back ,girls having there period put in the back room . They could pray to sunset then at 09:00 bring in the food let them wolf it down then go home perfect moslem prom!
gravenimage says
Brooklyn public school won’t serve food at prom until 9PM because of Ramadan
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More sickening dhimmitude.
What about the Infidel students, who surely make up the majority?
Ashley says
What about the Infidel students, who surely make up the majority?
_______________________
Why aren’t the infidel students and their parents not publically bitching about this, Graven?
I don’t get it!
gravenimage says
Ashley, they are probably afraid of being called “racists” and “Islamophobes” if they say anything. The indoctrination in schools runs pretty deep these days.
Karen says
Good question Ashley! And of course a good answer by gravenimage! ?
gravenimage says
🙂
Eur says
There is no concept of reciprocity in Islam, its restrictions are so severe that they condition the lives of other people. Islam is a very visible religion, it needs to be permanent to be seen, heard, smelled ….
WPM says
Like a fart in a small crowed room everyone has to share it like it or not.
gravenimage says
I wish Islam were so benign…
Karen says
I’d really love for the Muslim parents at this school to do something bold – demand that the full dining plan be restored to this event. Put the kids first instead of your own interests. Ruining the evening for everyone isn’t the answer; you, and your kids need to live side by side with many others who don’t share your beliefs and practices. This is not an insult to you, it’s just reality and could be a good learning experience for you. It would also show tremendous gracious on your part and a willingness to recognize the needs of others.
The very nature of religious duty usually involves sacrifice and differentiation from the larger culture. The rest of the world doesn’t stop eating just because you are fasting, nor should it.
Karen says
Make that “tremendous graciousness”.
gravenimage says
Muslims would *never* do this, Karen–the whole point is to force the Infidels to submit to Islam.
Karen says
Sad but true, gravenimage….
gravenimage says
Agreed.
WPM says
Many people who are not Islamic stop breathing because they must be killed to accommodate this insane religion!
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Within India also Aligarh Muslim University ensures Hindus studying there starve during muslims’ Ramadan.
It is the same for Hindus living in all areas where Muslims outnumber them. This is called ‘secularism’ in Indian parlance.
It is Hindus who are denied their rights to run schools , colleges etc by heavily christianized government of India. It is only christians & muslims who receive grants from government of India. This is what the british colonizers desired. Strictly speaking India never got any Independence.
The moment Hindus pool their earned income & decide to open any school or college christians & muslims agitate extorting “reservations”. And the curriculum taught has to necessarily glorify both mohammedans & christians belittling Hindus & their Civilization.
Today owing to inculturation tactics many christians not only retain Hindu names but also sport Hindus’ Sacred Ash , Kumkum & various such tell tale signs. Whereas Hindus like me & many others were forbidden from applying Sacred Ash & Kumkum within India while entering into schools that had many christian teachers & christianized hindu teachers . Christianized hindu teachers are those that are brain dead enough to deride & ridicule Hindus & Hinduism. This is how they ingratiate themselves to christians. The latter monopolize everything. To get employment as teachers , to gain admission into schools all Hindus have to compulsorily appease christians.
Whereas Muslims could not be blackmailed thus by christians. They never hesitate to kill . So they could retain their hijabs, fastings etc etc. Christians found a meeting point with them when it came to BEEF consumption in general non vegetarianism. Leftists also allied with them.
The impact can be seen in indian movie industry too. It is only Hindus who can be ridiculed by all. Christians also relish ridiculing Hindus. This is called “freedom of speech , artistic freedom yada yada ” in India.
Thank God , you dare not say a word against muslims. They respond with bomb blasts.
Recently one such Hindu hating Hindu deriding selective atheist indian actor ( he owes allegiance to dk virulently anti Hindu pro christian pro debauchery & pro muslim also for political expediency) was brought down to his knees deservedly by Muslims for he ridiculed Muslims in one of his useless movies. It is this actor who recently shook hands with uk’s queen elizabeth in uk. His niece a divorcee
( An Indian Armyman was her first husband) has married one british investment banker & shunts between India & uk. Gallivants all around Europe.
All anti Hindus are willingly & warmly hugged by the british christians. By their royal family included.
gravenimage says
Your idea that dhimmitude is the fault of Christianity alone is absurd–plenty of Hindus are dhimmis.
Your hatred of Christianity equally with the horror of Islam is just bizarre.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
I repeat Muslims are nobler than christians.
It is christians who STEAL , Plagiarize , LIE with impunity . Not Muslims.
It is indian christians that have STOLEN ( plagiarized ) Hindus’ Srimad Bhagavatham coming up with ‘yesu bhagavatham’ . In Kerala , Tamil Nadu etc jesus becomes yesu.
Likewise Hindus’ Yajur Vedham the congenital liars christians keep telling is ‘yesur veda’ that came to be called Yajur Veda.
And the christians LIES do not stop there. I gave just two instances.
Indian constitution is what the british christians dictated to their sycophantic slave called ambedkar. That condones all such mendacious malicious propaganda of christians calling it “freedom of religion…freedom to propagate gospel of christianity..”.
Whatever one might say against Muslims they do NOT stoop to such egregious levels of LYING & deceit as christian criminals.
gravenimage says
Above, Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says that “Muslims are nobler than christians (sic)”–and why? Because they “do not hesitate to kill”.
A Hindu impressed by murderous Muslim savagery–ugly and terribly sad. *Ugh*.
This poster has said similar things elsewhere. On another thread he applauded Muslims murdering Hindus if they held political opinions he disagreed with. Just horrible.
brane pilot says
Failure to surrender and place the boot of Islam on your neck is bigotry and racism.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
How about 40 days fasting prescribed for christians? Do they observe it? i don’t know the kind of worship Christians are observing? clapping and dancing on Sundays , drinking alcholics during xmas and Easter celebration s? can any of these be considered a spiritual activity? No,these are just satanic plays,not spirituality.christians want muslims to do the same,not observe spiritual activities to become nominal muslims.Any way, Paul the liar was instructed by the Satan to tell christians that they are saved by mithraist jesus even without observing any religious activity or even if they commit all kinds of atrocities like genocide during crusade wars and erasing of aboriginists,transatlantic slave trade,colonisation and stealing of resources from weaker nations and now daylight armed robbery seizing billions of dollars from stupid arabs monarchs to supply them with obsolete weapons.idiots!!
gravenimage says
ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
How about 40 days fasting prescribed for christians (sic)? Do they observe it? i (sic) don’t know the kind of worship Christians are observing? clapping (sic) and dancing on Sundays , drinking alcholics (sic) during xmas (sic) and Easter celebration s? (sic) can (sic) any of these be considered a spiritual activity?
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Never mind this ludicrous characterization of Christianity–ibrahim itace muhammed has made it clear what Muslims consider “spiritual”–raping small children, keeping sex slaves, and slaughtering unbelievers.
He has no problem with Islam being imposed on Infidels–and why would he? It is demanded that everyone be forced to submit to Islam.
More:
No,these (sic) are just satanic plays,not (sic) spirituality.christians (sic) want muslims to do the same,not (sic) observe spiritual activities to become nominal muslims.
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In other words, we want Muslims to stop raping and murdering us–as muhammed sees it, this is restricting his ability to practice Islam.
More:
Any way, Paul the liar was instructed by the Satan to tell christians (sic) that they are saved by mithraist (sic) jesus (sic) even without observing any religious activity or even if they commit all kinds of atrocities like genocide during crusade wars and erasing of aboriginists,transatlantic (sic) slave trade,colonisation (sic) and stealing of resources from weaker nations and now daylight armed robbery seizing billions of dollars from stupid arabs (sic) monarchs to supply them with obsolete weapons.idiots!! (sic)
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What a load of claptrap–more proof that muhammed understands nothing about Christianity.
Of course, muhammed is simply enraged if any Infidels live free of Islam.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
gravenimage,you said nothing apart from showing real insanity associated with christian bigotry. i said do Christians observe 40 days fasting.prescribed in the bible or that mithraist jesus did it for them?
gravenimage says
Notice that ibrahim itace muhammed has *no* condemnation for Muslims raping and murdering unbelievers–instead, he is incensed over the idea that Christians may not be fasting properly.
No, Lenten fasting is not in the Bible. The reference is Jesus fasting forty days and forty nights as he is tested in the desert, but there is no demand that Christians perform this themselves, although some have.
Lent is observed by Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and more traditional Protestant denominations such as Anglicans, Lutherans, and Methodists.
Lenten fasting has seldom been full fasting for any denomination. The Lenten season is often observed by giving up treats, sweets, and especially meat and other animal products, and generally eating simply and avoiding excess.
Many Christians also give up other things for Lent, such as television shows, movies, or video games–but this is seldom prescribed, and is almost always a personal choice.
This is also a period for increasing charitable giving, Bible reading, and religious contemplation, especially on the Passion of Christ. There are quite a few specific religious observances during the period for various denominations, which I won’t get into here.
So sorry to disappoint muhammed, but *none* of these involve harming unbelievers. This is what savage Muslims do.
Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says
Valid argument.
gravenimage says
Now Janakiraman Rajalakshmi is lauding the genocidal ibrahim itace muhammed. *Very* disturbing.
DJ says
Just sent an email to the school. How dare they comply to make accommodations for a religious group for a school function. According to ramadan rules the muslim students should not even be going, no music during ramadan. Why make the other students suffer?
Make your voice heard! Write an email to the school. http://www.bths.edu/apps/contact/
gravenimage says
Good for you, DJ. Everyone should write–be polite but firm.
Carolyne says
If the Muslim students believe they should not eat until after sundown, why couldn’t they just wait until then and not force their eccentricity on normal students who could then eat at their normal time?
Stephen Rohaty says
Infidel prom goers, bring your own snacks and eat them openly before 9 PM. Where does the koran say non believers must observe ramadan?
Peter says
Clearly, the school should have cancelled the prom out of true respect for Islam. Mingling of the sexes? Music and dancing? Bare arms and legs? Daughters out late with single men?
Carolyne says
And all of that exposed female hair would surely send those teenage Muslim boys into a sexual frenzy.