“Trump has insisted that the measure is necessary to prevent possible terrorist attacks. But courts in previous rulings blocking its enforcement have cited past statements from Trump and his advisors signaling that it may single out Muslims.”
Meanwhile, Muslims continue singling out non-Muslims for jihad terror attacks. If the UK had had Trump’s ban in place years ago, the father of the Manchester jihad mass murderer, who himself has links to al-Qaeda and the Islamic State would not have been admitted into the country from Libya, and the Manchester jihad massacre would not have happened.
But to think this way is “Islamophobic.” We must allow our people to be murdered in jihad attacks, and take no steps to prevent these attacks. Any such steps would “single out Muslims”!
The appeals court decision claims that the Executive Order “in text speaks in vague terms of national security, but in context drips with religious intolerance, animus and discrimination.”
In context? Is Manchester any relevant context? Or any of the other recent jihad terror attacks?
“Federal appeals court upholds block on Trump’s travel ban: NBC News,” CNBC, May 25, 2017:
A federal appeals court has upheld the nationwide block of President Donald Trump’s executive order restricting travel from several predominantly Muslim countries, NBC News reported.
The ruling came from the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals.
It upholds the suspension of a revised version of the executive order that the Trump administration crafted to better hold up to legal scrutiny than an earlier version.
Trump has insisted that the measure is necessary to prevent possible terrorist attacks. But courts in previous rulings blocking its enforcement have cited past statements from Trump and his advisors signaling that it may single out Muslims.
Dawn says
So I guess the protesting will begin again. Let Trump do his job , he wants to protect you unlike my Prime Minister of Canada
Sons of Liberty says
These ignorant judges are endangering the American people ! How many more Americans have to die …before we get serious about Islam ? It is an evil ideology and should be banned from the United States . Letting the enemy in the front door is exactly what the Democrats want to continue and their Marxist judges comply. The establishment Republicans are also blocking President Trump …who is the only one trying to protect our Country. You can’t live with people ..who believe in …fight the unbelievers and lay ambushes for them .
p says
see the muslims pouring in from the USA? http://pamelageller.com/2017/04/landlord-must-pay-muslim-couple-12000-failing-accommodate-religious-practices.html/
Dum Spiro says
I would rather have this executive order in place, unblocked, than have something like a concert bombing happen in the USA.
It’s better to have a safe population and a possibly “offended” group than to have no one offended and a vulnerable popul ation. You can see the sense in that too, right?
— Spero
Budvarakbar says
Fort Hood, 9-11, First WTC bombing, San Bernardino Christmas Party, Chattanooga, Boston, Orlando Night Club — What do you think it is going to take?
p says
you think a liberal cares if a few thousand kids end up dead?
Paul N Silas says
Doesn’t matter, look at all of the Jihadist “events” in the US after 9/11. Plus the Minneapolis PD finding those Somali’s with rifles, drones, and grenades.
Then couple that with the Drug Cartels, MS16, street gangs, and radical groups like The Panthers or BLM, and such.
The left is on the march world wide and Islam is with it. Paid for by Soros, planned out by Obama and Valerie Jarrett.
mgoldberg says
My word, it seems impossible to get an actual legal ruling, but rather they deliver polical screeds, and call it law!
How the heck will this be treated by the Supreme court? Would they even admit that the rulings of the lower courts are… how does one phrase this is juridical terms? Bat shit crazy?!?
Seriously… it is beyond comprehension now, and the lower courts are guilty of legal mumbo jumbo.
Why aren’t all of those judges not working at postions, where they have to ask each and every customer,
‘Would you like a beverage with that?’
p says
those are obama-judges, similar to a baboon
Nancy Albert says
I am not a lawyer but it seems that you can craft a much more sweeping immigration ban based on estimating the probability that any entrant will commit illegal acts in the US.
These acts would be polygamy, FGM, wife-beating, child marriage, raping/harassing “uncovered” women, harming homosexuals and triple talaq. We could also use a ban against concealment of the face in public, as an additional tool. How can judges dispute that? This is not religious discrimination, it’s an assessment of intent to obey or disrespect our laws.
Teddy Roosevelt banned polygamists and people who believed in polygamy in 1907.
Brian Hoff says
Billy O Relly of fox new is guiely of wife beating have sex with than small child.
gravenimage says
“Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–must be projecting. Wife beating and pedophilia are Halal *in Islam*.
gravenimage says
Wife beating and child rape are not illegal in Dar-al-Islam–they are in the civilized world, though.
Hindu American says
Don’t these judges read the news? I wonder what color the sky is in their world?
Budvarakbar says
Over the last 30 years I have been on 4 juries and in a jury pool on a couple of other cases without being picked — there are no windows in courtrooms — in actuality – that answers your question.
Vyx says
Apparently, we have to let Muslims in, let them kill us, and then be even nicer to them after they do so.
Because ‘islamophobia’.
p says
http://pamelageller.com/2017/04/landlord-must-pay-muslim-couple-12000-failing-accommodate-religious-practices.html/
boakai ngombu says
Vyx, what you say there requires too much thought
gravenimage says
That seems to be the attitude, Vyx.
Bat 21 says
The justices that blocked the president’s order saying there is no evidence showing risk in allowing aliens from these terror associated country’s should have a court clerk look into the Senate Subcommittee On Immigration and National Interest. This report gives a break down of the 580 convictions of terrorists since 9/11 (380) foreign born in US jails. This report breaks down names of offenders, date of conviction, terror group affiliation, federal charges, date of conviction, sentence imposed, immigration history, state of residence. The country’s on Trumps travel ban, 72 terrorists were convicted of felony charges, possession of a machine gun, material support of a terror group, money laundering, possession of explosives, conspiracy to commit a terror attack.
Somalia–20
Yemen–19
Iraq–19
Syria–7
Iran–4
Libya–2
Sudan–1
How many innocent people could these maniacs have slaughtered if not caught. The question is how many are going to be coming in because of this ban??
Budvarakbar says
In addition to the question of – how many are already here? – and remember that those numbers do not include the rats that blew themselves up.
gravenimage says
Thank you for those grim stats, Bat 21.
Guest says
“Trump and his advisors signaling that it may single out Muslims.”
Even if that were true, by the constitution, it wouldn’t be illegal. Congress gave the President authority to ban any class of immigrant from the country
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer,American legal system is not as myopic and sentimental as you want it to be to serve your sinister designs and hatred against muslims.It is based on pragmatic school of jurisprudence that takes realities on the ground into consideration going behind the veil to detect evil intention. mad devil trump has evil intention,which is discrimination against a particular community prohibited under the American constitution.Devil trump made it clear during campaign that he will introduce this discriminatory ban on muslims.It the funtion of the judiciary to check executive orders when it sees that they have the potential of contravening the grundnorm.
American Pragmatism says
Then why are there countries that are larger majority muslims countries not named in the ban? Logically it disproves your argument. Something tells me though you have never been taught logic nor do you utilize it.
Bill W. says
Pointing to logic to win an argument about an Islamic statement is like pouring salt on a garden slug you will always kill it.
TJ says
Thomas Jefferson said all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. It isn’t possible, Ibrahim, for the words of Thomas Jefferson to be happening around here as long as anyone is respecting the quran. Why? Because the quran is made of a few fables, exaggerations, and concealment of valuable testimony. These dubious items don’t give muslims the right to kill the unbelievers, they convict them as a murderer when they do. This practice of phony executions is a murderous assault against the great words of Thomas Jefferson.
no_one says
You are a true hater as most muslims. We don’t need haters around here. Put your allah … you know where ..
p says
its actually worship of mohammed
Cornflower Blue says
Ibrahim,
Actually, the travel ban only names 6 countries which, sadly, have a huge problem with terrorism. Syria’s in the middle of civil war, on top of that ISIS is in control of many areas. Different terrorist groups use Libya for training camps, and Somalia is experiencing chaos.
None of these countries are likely to have an up-to-date databases or records on people’s identities–so we can’t verify who is who. Terrorists can very easily use fake IDs and documents to sneak in, so we really do need a temporary ban so we can fix the vetting process. The current way of doing this is too risky.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t like most of Trump’s policies, but a temporary ban is a small price to pay for safety, to avoid stuff like the San Bernardino attack, or what just happened in England.
I see what you mean, but whether Trump is bigoted or not isn’t really the most important question…..the most important question is if the temporary ban (people keep forgetting it’s just temporary) can save lives.
People are shooting down the idea because of Trump’s motivations….but his motives aren’t more important than reality, which is that terrorism has led to deaths of many people in Europe, partly due to unvetted migration. A pause in immigration from 6 countries–which the Obama administration even named as potential terror hot-spots–so we can fix our vetting process and increase security, is more important than Trump’s motives.
I mean no disrespect; you’re entitled to your opinions too. I just wanted to point out that the ban itself isn’t bigoted because Trump might be….if you read it, nowhere does it mention Muslims. And non-Muslims from the 6 countries would also be restricted, same as the Muslim citizens. Plus, many other Muslim-majority countries aren’t even on it.
So while Trump’s motives are unclear, the temporary travel ban itself isn’t a bad idea, and may in fact save lives. I see why you’re concerned. You have a right to be; everyone’s been more worried for a long time now.
But please understand, some people, like me, don’t support the ban out of bigotry or hate. I have no problem with moderate Muslims. I wouldn’t support a ban solely based on religion.
I support the ban because I think it will slow things down enough to give us a chance to fix a broken system—and it could end up preventing attacks, and save Muslim and non-Muslim lives alike.
Steve says
Can you please define what a ‘moderate’ Muslim is, because from my understanding, a Muslim is an individual who follows and believes in the teachings of the Quran, which was supposedly written by Mohamed their ‘prophet’….and there lies the problem. It is a book full of contradictions. Sure, the early part of it preaches ‘love’ and ‘kindness’ etc. (which is something of an irony seeing that he was basically a schizophrenic, violent, murdering, hate filled paedophile, war lord who was supposedly ‘enlightened’ by the word of God whilst sitting on his mothers lap), but the more recent the teachings become the more vile and hatred filled it becomes too. And by the law of abrogation (which Mohamed introduced to allow changes to be made as time went on), these later teachings then superseded the earlier ones making them null and void.
These later teachings are those which instil the hatred against us we see today, in all who believe in its content ie all Muslims. It’s just that ISIS are the ones that are ‘cutting to the quick’, and side stepping the two faced deceit that others are already practicing on us.
To further its cause, it teaches Muslims to act as ‘moderates’ when they live in a society where they are outnumbered, BUT at the same time it also teaches them to keep nothing but hatred in their hearts against ALL non Muslims, and advocates the use of murder to eliminate all ‘non believers’. This is clearly explained in the ‘three stages of Jihad’, which instructs Muslims on how to gain world domination (google it!).
Needless to say, when they become the majority, their true feelings towards us then become very apparent. This is borne out in the West in areas that have already been overtaken by Muslims, which doesn’t take that long to happen due to their very high birth rates and the lack of immigration controls due to Western Liberalism and Left wingers, who fully support their evil intentions. Inventing stupid ‘soundbites’ to throw at us like ‘Islamophobia’, ‘racist’, ‘bigot’ etc, if we ever object to what is happening in our countries.
So you see, a ‘moderate’ Muslim is like the horse of Troy. Outside it appears ‘friendly’, ‘nice’, even ‘warm and cuddly’ and ‘accommodating’, but inside?…..now there lies the evil that will eventually destroy us all!
Think about it carefully. If the Devil himself wanted to destroy this world (as has been prophesised as ‘Armageddon’), what better way would he do so but by lies and deceit? Gaining our trust in every way until the time was right to pounce.
We are all being systematically lured into the metaphorical ‘spiders lair’ on the pretence that the spider is now our friend. I don’t think I really need to explain how that ends do I?
Cornflower Blue says
Steve,
Well, I’d define a moderate Muslim as one who rejects jihad, and would never kill innocent people. There are some.
But I do believe as a whole, there needs to be reform in Islam because so many people are being taught to follow only the violent parts.
Steve says
Cornflower Blue.. the fact is, a Muslim is a Muslim and they are all instructed to follow the teachings of the Quran to the letter. To them Sharia overrules all human made laws that exist in the West. It is an evil set of rules that are responsible for a lot of pain & misery. An abomination of ‘laws’ that infringe every known human right!
To your face Muslims will say anything that may appease you. Say things you really want to hear, while in their hearts their true feelings will lie hidden….feelings that won’t be exposed or expressed…until the time is right. It’s a brilliant form of deception that has worked for their cause for the last 1400 years!
Islam isn’t a religion…it’s a cult! Started by a power hungry mad man back in the 6th century. It is an ideology that has poisoned the minds of 100’s of millions and is directly responsible for the deaths of 100’s millions more.
Do you honestly believe that Islam is a ‘religion’ of peace and love? How can it be? Look at the evidence. Look at the facts. Don’t be suckered up into believing it’s foul teachings. The Devils hall mark is entrenched in its words, which are then ‘candy coated’ to administer more acceptance among its followers.
The Manchester bomber previously didn’t kill innocent people. Then one day…he did!! This can apply to every living Muslim if their beliefs in Islam are deep seated enough, and I would strongly argue that the vast majority are!
For example, being called to prayer 5 times a day? How far gone in terms of a belief has someone to go, to even be doing that every day of your life?? No wonder their countries of origin are in the state they are. No one does anything….because they’re too busy praying!!
The common denominator in ALL of the terrorist atrocities over the last couple of decades has been Islam. Every one has been a Muslim. These murderous hate filled individuals are being driven by the evil indoctrination of their weak minds by phrases from ……THE QURAN!! They are all blind to the evil they are doing. It’s a ‘virus’ that has infected the minds of many, and the evil will continue to spread across our lands unless we in the West expose and oppose it, and accept it for what it really is…..an EVIL wolf in sheep’s clothing!!
We need to purge the West of Islam in every way possible. Otherwise it will end up purging us!!
LR says
Steve,
I know there are many people on here who don’t think there is any such thing as a ‘moderate’ Muslims…But in reality, all Muslims are not the same, just as all Christians are not the same….
There are those Muslims who have saved lives of Americans, and others…who have diligently worked for the Americans during the Afghan and Iraq wars…
Our country was built on the freedom of the individual, so we need to learn to distinguish between those who wish to harm us and those who don’t.
LR says
Cornflower,
I agree…Well stated….
Raja says
Ibrahim,
You praise American system when it suits you but in the heart of heart every system (except Islam) is hated by you and your fellow Islamist. Your Islam is full of hatred and immorality with mohd being a torchbearer. Islam being so evil and discriminatory should not even be called a religion. Aren’t you ashamed of Islam?
000 says
FGM, honor killings, treating women like cattle, the teachings to kill someone who insult Islam or doesn’t practice Islam. Yes Trump is so evil to try to protect us from that
Shan Lim says
Saudi Arabia and other gulf states Islamic nations don’t even let in muslim refugees. So go cry to your co-religionists a river about discrimination against muslims.
TL says
If the Constitution obstructs discrimination against Islamic criminals, then the Constitution ought to be replaced.
gravenimage says
Appalling Muslim apologist ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr Spencer,American (sic) legal system is not as myopic and sentimental as you want it to be to serve your sinister designs and hatred against muslims.
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ibrahim itace muhammed considers it “sentimental” not to want Muslims to mass murder our children, as they did at Manchester.
He also considers not wanting Muslims to murder us to be “sinister”. A glimpse into the foul Muslim mindset, and it is *not* pretty.
More:
It is based on pragmatic school of jurisprudence that takes realities on the ground into consideration going behind the veil to detect evil intention. mad (sic) devil trump (sic) has evil intention,which (sic) is discrimination against a particular community prohibited under the American constitution.
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Muslims murdering us is only “pragmatic” for Muslims–not for their victims.
Another Mohammedan who wants us to believe that the American Constitution is a suicide pact.
More:
Devil trump (sic) made it clear during campaign that he will introduce this discriminatory ban on muslims (sic).
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It is “discriminatory” to take issue with allowing in hordes of people who follow a creed enjoining them to oppress and kill you, as muhammed would have us believe.
Note, too, that you are a “devil” if you don’t want Muslims to kill your children.
More:
It the funtion (sic) of the judiciary to check executive orders when it sees that they have the potential of contravening the grundnorm.
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Only a Mohammedan would claim that basic law (grundnorm in German) in the West is baring our throats to the Muslim sword. In fact, until recently, defending against Jihad was very much the norm in the West.
But ibrahim itace muhammed hopes we don’t know that…
John A. Marre says
When the next terrorist strikes, the media will do all in their power to hide the name of the country that the attacker came from, to keep us from realizing that this unrealized ban would have been effective.
Wellington says
The fundamental problem remains, as evidenced by this article, to wit, that Islam is not accurately characterized for what it is——–spiritual fascism. Thus silly and uninformed American judges will continue to allow Islam to use the freedoms and guarantees found in the Constitution, and most especially in the First and Fourteenth Amendments, to eventually end those freedoms and guarantees if only given the opportunity. Right now, Islam is being given this opportunity by an extremely deficient American judiciary.
It need not be the case were Islam correctly assessed for the freedom-crushing religious ideology which it is. After all, the American Constitution is not a suicide pact. But as long as Islam is treated as a non-negative, the Constitution, precisely to the extent Islam is not seen for the spiritual fascism which it most surely is, is in jeopardy. Pretty much grave jeopardy I would argue.
This doesn’t mean that Islam should be declared illegal. Only that, as with other totalitarian ideologies and hate organizations, such as Marxism, Nazism and the KKK, which are all legal in the US, it be accurately assessed for what it is. Right now this is not happening and the principal culprit here is not the moronic MSM or the decrepit and out-of-ideas Democratic Party (a lot of uninformed weenies in the Republican Party are culpable here too), pathetic though both are. No, the principal culprit here, and thus the weakest link, is the American judiciary.
Yes, right now, the single best ally of the prototype for Nazism, i.e., Islam, has its best friend in America with a multitude of ignorant and foolish judges. Look to here, the American judiciary, for the weakest link in our time for the preservation of liberty in the USA. How bitterly ironic such weakest link would come from that branch of government most entrusted with preserving the freedoms and rights found in the Constitution.. But then life is full of bitter ironies, now isn’t it?
Guest says
Yes, Wellington. We can quote Hamed Abdel Samad, author of the book ‘Islamic Fascism’. He knows his stuff and was once an islamic radical. Even the left occasionally listen to people like him, let him have his say in talk shows etc.
We need to keep emphasizing that it’s a terrible political ideology using the name ‘religion’ as its Trojan horse.
Troybeam says
Clinton and Obama did the same as Trump RE: travel ban, Liberal judges are the worst, time to change that and get elected officials in office who will uphold the law.
tgusa says
US justice system is dead to me. Civic duty is something I will never again practice. They asked for it, hell, they begged for it and now they will get what they asked for. Any patriotic American that serves them in any capacity is guilty of providing material support to a terrorist sympathetic organization. Let justice serve itself as it is doing right now but without our help. That will throw a monkey wrench in to the entire mechanism. Without the support of the people it all comes crashing down. If they like their courts they can keep their courts. Well, not really.
gravenimage says
If there are no good people who are willing to serve on juries, things will get *much* worse.
Arthur says
To paraphrase the appeals court, “The president specified certain nations as terror risks and seeks a temporary ban on immigration from those places. However, we can read his mind and we know that he really hates Muslims and therefore we will stop him, because that is thoughtcrime. In fact, because we are mind-readers, we know what all people are thinking and will decide the due fate of everyone based on their unspoken thoughts.”
Shone says
“Oh, you are so naive.”… How can you not see, that judicial branch of the US government is just doing its job. The system is not wrong, the people in the system are. What did you expect from people whose brains are washed out and reprogrammed by Cultural Marxist theories? Further more, president did not impose ban for all, just few of them. The main one is left out of ban list, and what is most significant, the main one is an “ally”! You think that president Trump is going to do anything? He’s gonna do nothing at all. The fate of USA and rest of the world is sealed and doomed on the very same day when the first Gulf War begun. What? How? ” It is an riddle wrapped in a enigma”, not even the soldiers know how. But, the truth is simple, greed, greed, greed, greed and more greed. US military has been rented for oil. Who have rented it? Saudis, thats who. For what? For destruction of all competitors. US military is helping islam. US judicial system is helping islam. US high education is helping islam. Even the constitution it self is helping islam… Who are the traitors? Who are the conspirators? I can name one, but just one. George W Bush Senior, and his administration.
And there is something scary. What must happen before we all wake up? Another terror attack? I do not think so. We need a rude awakening. Like an nuclear explosion of some kind. And I am pretty sure that it will happen, one day the followers of a madman will have dirty little bomb on their grasp, and they will use it. And I am pretty sure that politicians will not even blame them for it. Even the people will not put a blame on muslims. But, it will be “the end of beginning”
tgusa says
All of it goes back very far. My first disappointment with Reagan came well before I eventually voted for him and that was his selection of Bush as his VP who was the assumed republican nominee prior to the convention. Reagan should have gone with a younger man that held similar beliefs and groomed him for the Presidency. Reagan’s mistake led to the Bush Presidency which with the help of Perot led to the Clinton Presidency and on and on to where we are now. But you have to understand the times that brought Reagan. There was no other sane choice at the time.
Reagan had a message of let’s make America great again. Reagan called it the shining city on the hill but since he left office and all that has unfolded because of that bad selection we are not so shiny anymore. The President we have now reminds me of Reagan but I think the current president may be tougher. Reagan being the nice guy he played in the movies and Trump being John Wayne. We shall see.
“the end of the beginning”
Fitting. We can hope but we must never make the mistakes of the past. We have to stand firm, keep our eyes on the ball. There can be no appeasement no matter who’s feelings get hurt in the process.
gravenimage says
Shone wrote:
You think that president Trump is going to do anything? He’s gonna do nothing at all. The fate of USA and rest of the world is sealed and doomed on the very same day when the first Gulf War begun.
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Is this another claim that the West is responsible for creating Jihad terror?
It is *certainly* another demand that we surrender to Islam, because things are hopeless. *Ugh*.
More:
But, the truth is simple, greed, greed, greed, greed and more greed. US military has been rented for oil.
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America never stole Iraq’s oil. This is a ridiculous canard.
More:
Even the constitution it self is helping islam…
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What absolute crap. We *fought* against Islam under the Constitution, and freed the Mediterranean Sea from Muslim piracy for the first time in a thousand years.
The idea that the Constitution demands that we surrender to Islam is *utterly* false.
More:
And there is something scary. What must happen before we all wake up? Another terror attack? I do not think so. We need a rude awakening. Like an nuclear explosion of some kind.
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Uh huh. Given the rest of Shone’s comments here, the idea that he is hoping this will wake us up is pretty hard to swallow.
Shan Lim says
You know, President Trump could have just ignored the perverted federal court judges’ unconstitutional over-reach decision. They ain’t the kings they thought they are.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Wellington,continue your lunatic rantings as a result of satanic possession the filthy Christians call descending of holy ghost like dove,the judges will not uphold trump’s madness.what can you do as Islam’s hater? you can start shaking your head as idol worshipers in India do so that your holy ghost will descend on you, this time in the form of a creature with eyes inside eyes to perform wonderful magic you christians call miracle to change the position of American law to suit your whims and caprices of hatred against Islam and muslims.Idiot beast!!
tgusa says
Are you lost jihadi? Its Friday night here in the USA. Don’t you have a venue filled with naive little girls to scope out for a future attack?
Don’t worry lazy jihadi, no matter where you are, TRUMP is going to get you.
Shone says
ibrahim, there is no need to offend Christians, or Jews you know. Many of them are nice people, not animals. Nobody wants to harass you personally. But, you have urge to do so, because there is no personal guilt, no personal sin in ideology that calls it self a religion. That is the difference between us and you. Your cult needs, further more urges to do violent things, because your “god”, the deceiver, the “the Beneficent, the Merciful.” the Lord of the Worlds.” have told you this. Does almighty, unique, ruler of the worlds needs mortals to defend its “law”? Does the “god”, if it is true god, needs to be a provider of sexual desires for his followers in afterlife? If he is a true god, the only one, as you always put it, then why violence against it own creations? And further more, if your god is the same with the god from the Bible, why he needs you to do his job of cleansing the earth? All of this question, and no singular answer. It can mean only one thing: your god is not the God at all. Surely, you gonna find yourself offended by this. But these are the facts, not fiction. Let me explain in short. All the angels, spiritual beings, especially those who were first created, have the word el in their names, or il. So, there are Raphael, Michael, Gabriel (yes, Gabriel, or Gebrail, or Gibril), and there is one particular angel, or seraph, whose name is: Satanael. He is mentioned in the book of Job. His name means the god of adversary, the el of deception. They are all elohims, the gods, heavenly hosts. But they are not Adonai. They are just His creations. And, who spoke to son of Abdulah? Real Gabriel? The very angel which spoke to Virgin Mary? Not at all. The Adonai never changes his mind. So, who spoke to your “prophet”? It was Satan who spoke to him. Not your jinn, but the real Satan, in all of his might and menace. All the evidences speak for that. Plural, lustful paradise, greed, deception, destruction, lies, vengeance. All of it. Selfishness too. So, go worship your deceiver, liar, and murderer from the beginning.
Bill W. says
You have to fell sorry for someone like Ibrahim itace muhammed consumed with hate in his soul raging against the tide of logic ,compassion, love, God forgiveness, and for what? An unloving hateful, master god , who has only scorn for his creation man on earth? I pray for people like you to find some peace in your soul to displace the hate that makes you a mockery of your beinging, made in the image of God like all human being that walk the earth.
gravenimage says
Apologist for Muslim savagery ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Wellington,continue (sic) your lunatic rantings as a result of satanic possession the filthy Christians call descending of holy ghost like dove,the (sic) judges will not uphold trump’s (sic) madness.
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muhammed assumes that all Westerners are Christians, even when they make it clear that this is not the case.
And, as above–he considers it “satanic” for Infidels not to welcome being murdered by his devout coreligionists.
More:
what (sic) can you do as Islam’s hater?
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muhammed makes it clear that opposing violent Jihad is opposing Islam–in other words, that slaughtering Infidels is an intrinsic part of his foul creed.
More:
you (sic) can start shaking your head as idol worshipers in India do so that your holy ghost will descend on you, this time in the form of a creature with eyes inside eyes to perform wonderful magic you christians (sic) call miracle to change the position of American law to suit your whims and caprices of hatred against Islam and muslims.Idiot (sic) beast!!
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muhammed grows increasingly unhinged when faced with those who oppose his savagery. He always reveals himself.
Troybeam says
Liberal judges need to go, they just do not up hold the Constitution, Clinton and Obama put out a ban as well and no one made a fit about it, Time for Americans to question these judges and demand they step down and be replaced with Judges that will UPHOLD our laws and the actions taken by our President even when said President put the law into the EO.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
shone ,you are confused filthy christian. how many gods make one god in your pagan christianity invented in 325 Ad? is that not yahwe( an antient idol cloned as master god or god the father),mithraist jesus(not prophet issa mentioned in the Quran) and holy ghost or holy spirit( the crook satan appearing like a dove)= 3 gods.is that a monotheism taught by father Abraham? musulims preserved the true monotheism as it was during Abraham,ishmael,isac,jacob,moses,david,,solomon ,true jesus upto prophet Muhammad; all worshiping one God with unique name called Allah.some evangelical liars came up with a bogus theory that since some muslims are using a symbol of moon on their flags and minarets of mosques,it means Allah is moon_ god from baal worship.when they are shown the verses in the Quran saying muslims shall not worship sun and moon,but they shall worship Allah who created them ; not worship baal who is an idol as satan,christian liar became confused and have nothing to say again.shone,you are lost on the edge of hellfire.withdraw your journey from hellfire back to Islam a sure way of salvation.
boakai ngombu says
you remain dead, Itace, and; continue to speak wrongly about important matters. in doing so you reveal that your knowledge is not complete. you truly need a “come to Jesus” moment. He is able and has the power and authority to show you the right path. He can fill you with a proper understanding of righteousness.
Cornflower Blue says
Ibrahim,
There’s no need to call people “filthy Christians”. Just because you disagree with someone’s religion, you don’t need to insult them that way. Christians and Jewish people believe in only one God…..so they are monotheistic like Islam.
And even if some religions believe in more than one god, it’s still fine to treat them with respect.
Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, Christians, and atheists have very different beliefs and ways of worshiping God, they have different ways of trying to understand life.
But they’re all people–God created them, too.
They’re all people, and they should be able to accept the fact that religion is a personal choice, between the person and God, and that it’s no one else’s business what religion someone is. Even if you disagree with a religion, you can still treat its followers kindly.
It’s okay to disagree with someone, but when you start calling them and people in their religion ‘filthy’ and accuse them of idolatry, or start seeing them as inferior…..well, that behavior isn’t religious.
You believe Allah made everyone, correct? Maybe He created everyone to be different on purpose. Maybe He doesn’t mind how he’s worshiped as long as his creations are good to each other.
gravenimage says
Cornflower Blues, pious Muslims like muhammed don’t treat any unbelievers with respect.
gravenimage says
Federal appeals court upholds block on Trump’s temporary immigration ban
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Even after the hideous attack on Manchester by recent Muslim immigrants, this suicidal insanity continues.
awake says
In their liberal zeal to impede any of Trump’s policies, they unwittingly afford him another political victory with the voters, for another successful jihad attack in U.S. is imminent and not a question of if, but rather, when.