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Germany considers fines of up to $56,000,000 for “hate speech”

May 24, 2017 8:26 am By Christine Douglass-Williams

One would think that the Muslim migrant chaos and crime were enough for Germany, but still the leftist-jihadist alliance is tightening its stranglehold on the country, a country with debt in the tens of billions due to this migrant chaos.

The problems that many critics point out are the vague definitions of the term “hate speech” and the restrictions that the proposed law may have on freedom of speech

Leftists and Islamic supremacists have been at the center of the push for “hate speech” laws; they have been relentlessly attacking the freedom of speech, with the help of the aggressive socialist leftist lobbies. Criticizing Islam is defined by Leftists and Islamic supremacists as “hate speech” and “Islamophobia.”

The Social Democrats’ coalition partners, including Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, argue that the law will result in censorship of legitimate speech.

And indeed, Germany began a crackdown on the freedom of speech nearly two years ago, so as not to offend Muslim migrants.

Other nations in Europe seem to be headed in the same direction as Germany, unless these authoritarian politicians are booted out at election time. This doesn’t look like an encouraging prospect after France’s elections.

Germany Considers Million Dollar Hate Speech Fines, by Jacob Bojesson, Daily Caller, May 19, 2017:

The German parliament is debating a proposal to force social media platforms to either delete hate speech quickly or risk hefty fines.

The problems that many critics point out are the vague definitions of the term “hate speech” and the restrictions that the proposed law may have on freedom of speech. Justice Minister Heiko Maas disagrees, arguing it will only help protect freedom of speech in Germany.

“The point of the proposed legislation is that statements that violate the law must be deleted,” Maas, a Social Democrat, said Friday, according to Deutsche Welle. “These are not examples of freedom of speech. They’re attacks on freedom of speech. The worst danger to freedom of speech is a situation where threats go unpunished.”

Flagrant violations need to be removed within 24 hours while more complex cases have to be removed within one week, according to the proposal. Failure to remove posts may result in fines of up to 50 million euros ($56 million dollars).

“Practice shows that not too much, but too little, gets deleted,” Maas said. “We’re at a crossroads. Should the digital revolution be allowed to continue to call our state, based on law and order, into question?”

The Social Democrats’ coalition partners, including Chancellor Angela Merkel’s Christian Democratic Union, argue that the law will result in censorship of legitimate speech.

“I cannot understand how Facebook, for example, is qualified to check whether content is illegal,”….

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  1. Benedict says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:54 am

    Does anybody know if “Mein Jihad” (the Qur’an) is considered hate speech in Germany?

    • TheBuffster says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:07 am

      Good one, Benedict.

      I imagine anyone suggesting in Germany that “Mein Jihad” is hate speech would be considered to be speaking hate speech.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:34 am

      I’ve always wondered if Adolph knew about the Holy Ko-Ran and took it into prison with him, or did somebody turn him on to the book before he went in.

    • ninetyninepct says

      May 25, 2017 at 11:03 am

      Search Sections 318, 319 and 320 of the Criminal Code of Canada and you will discover that the Koran clearly meets the definition of hate literature. The Trudeau Liberals deliberately ignore enforcing these Laws and are doing nothing about the video evidence of the Muslim calls for the killing of Jews by terrorist imams in Canadian mosques.

      Trudeau, the Liberal Party, the NDP and all their members blatantly support Islamic terrorism. Search M-103 which is a Muslim / Liberal / NDP Motion in the Canadian Parliament that is the first step in banning free speech in Canada. They want to ban Islamophobia.

  2. Jerry says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:01 am

    The German parliament is debating a proposal to force social media platforms to either delete hate speech quickly or risk hefty fines.

    —————————————–
    Hate speech:

    “And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing…” Quran

    “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbeliever…” Quran

    But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.” Quran

    What’s the “fine” for that hate speech? We already know. The lives of our people and the sexual purity of our women and children; our neighborhoods lost to ugly enclaves;our welfare to people who have never paid in and who hate us;our prison system burgeoning with immigrant invaders;our freedoms and liberties sacrificed for the new police state that islam helped create;our peace and security lost to muslim intimidation and terror along with our tax dollars needed to fight it.

    While merkel threatens fines to fight the truth I speak of the cost in lives, liberty, and peace. Somehow I feel like the better person.

    • Michelle says

      May 24, 2017 at 2:37 pm

      Jerry, you ARE the better person, fairness, justice, safety + ethics are compromised by so many country’s leaders. Hopefully the majority will stand up before the majority is Islam. The fines are all about funding the suicidal politics. Thank you for your post. Hang in + hope!

  3. Paul says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:13 am

    Germany is clamping down heavily on political dissent and free speech. It’s also
    becoming a very dangerous place for Jews and there seems to be a virtual news
    blackout there.It has a not so subtle alliance with islamo-fascists and is essentially
    using muslims as foot soldiers to intimidate people and establish totalitarianism.
    It’s throwing its weight around in Europe and applying pressure on nations that do
    not conform. It also appears to be agitating for a military showdown with Russia.
    Nothing has changed since the 1930s and 1940s. Leopards and spots and all that.

    • RichardL says

      May 24, 2017 at 9:52 am

      I am German and I am afraid of them. To use your leopard and spots metaphor: the leopard is black and has yellow spots today. It still is a totalitarian animal.

      • Paul says

        May 24, 2017 at 10:27 am

        Don’t get me wrong Richard, I think Germany is a beautiful country
        and I’ve really liked 99% of Germans I’ve met, but, unfortunately, the
        country should never be in a position of power, not like it is now.
        Merkel should have been thrown out long ago, but I fear many Germans
        have been socially conditioned and will keep the monster in power.
        Very sad indeed.

        • Alien Republican says

          May 24, 2017 at 3:40 pm

          I tend to like only 60% of humanity and 59% of Germans and 58% of my countrymen. Apart from that I’m seriously convinced that there isn’t much difference between Germans under Hitler and Germans under Merkel. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not contending that Germans ever were merciless killers of jews before or happily destroying their childrens future today. Ever wavering between pusillanimity and deluded grandiosity their faultl is loyalty to a leadership acting against their vital interest. The lapdog mentality of W. Germany and E. Germany during the cold war was my first eye opener into their psyche.

        • Paul says

          May 24, 2017 at 8:20 pm

          @Alien Republican,
          I meant everything I said to Richard and I was being honest about
          my experience. What I’m going to say sounds terribly pessimistic
          and I hope to be proved drastically wrong. I think many in the West
          – including in the Anglosphere – are sympathetic to things like islam
          and SJWism because they’d much rather believe in what they know
          to be a load of nonsense as opposed to embracing the truth, and they’d
          choose subjugation and oppression over freedom any day. We have
          a generation of wicked and selfish people who are proud of their
          ignorance.

        • Virginia says

          May 25, 2017 at 4:45 am

          You are right. Bread, circus, socialism, Antifa, and the State Evangelical Church see to it hat the sheep head docilly over the cliff.

      • Paul says

        May 24, 2017 at 10:32 am

        I’m a Brit and I love your country more than many of the pieces
        of crap you have ruling you! Like Dr von Berg from the Greens,
        gloating over impending German minority status in their own country.
        Words fail me.

  4. John A. Marre says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:16 am

    Punishing WORDS while rewarding the ACTIONS of the Jihadis.
    Millions of pounds are given to the Jihadis in the UK. More are encouraged to come in. They are not prosecuted for their crimes. Innocent citizens who pronounce words complaining about all this are thrown in jail.
    The UK will have more attacks. The blame belongs on the politicians.

    • Vyx says

      May 24, 2017 at 12:13 pm

      Yes, the blame belongs to the politicians, however, these are elected positions. Your fellow citizens keep voting in those that are literally GIVING your nation to islam.

      There are very few options left.

      1. Change your voting habits and get rid of the muslim hordes
      2. Leave Germany/ Western Europe.

      You politicians and fellow citizens are leading you down a scary path. It might be time to really start thinking about your future and the future of your children.

  5. Charli Main says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:19 am

    The definations of ” hate speech” and ” free speech” will be whatever Muslims want them to be.

    Kill, murder and rape filthy kaffirs====== Muslim FREE SPEECH.

    Protest killings, rapes and murder by Muslims ======Islamophobic HATE SPEECH

    • Shmooviyet says

      May 24, 2017 at 10:27 am

      Spot on.
      Listen to the foolish dhimmi “Justice Minister” fretting over threats to freedom of speech. Who is deciding what the true threats are?!
      Well, his own rear end is covered.

  6. Barguest says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:30 am

    You can bet these fines won’t be applied to the hateful bile that emanates from so many mohamedans. No, only non-muslims who utter inconvenient truths will be punished. But we must continue to speak for as long as we have our voices, or one day our descendants will curse us for remaining silent in the face of evil. If, of course, they haven’t been forcibly converted to the ROP by then…

  7. Rita says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:32 am

    Why is “Mother Terrorista Merkel” still not before a Nürnberg Criminal Court ?

    • David M says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:11 am

      The same reason George W Bush & Tony Blair aren’t for their illegal invasion of Iraq. Something about history being written by the victors.

  8. vlparker says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:34 am

    Merkel is now the 1930 version of Adolph Hitler, working her way up to becoming the 1940 version.

    • Gordon Miller says

      May 25, 2017 at 9:02 am

      Your probably right. It looks like she’s already mastered the Nazi salute.

  9. Buford says

    May 24, 2017 at 9:48 am

    This Cow is not only a Dictator but is crazy on top of it I do not understand why the German people are tolerating this they should physically remove this Hog & force her to live in a Muslim Country.

    • Jerry says

      May 24, 2017 at 9:55 am

      …force her to live in a Muslim Country.

      She already is. 😉

  10. Shmooviyet says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:11 am

    German govt trying to kill two birds with one stone: silence any remaining voices of dissent by driving working ‘phobes to bankruptcy, while collecting a fat ‘hate tax’ here and there. They seem just dumb enough to try it.
    Or at least reinvent 19th c. debtors prisons with 21st c. tolerance: fill ’em with those holding hurtful, xenophobic views.

    The RoP brings such progress to the West.

  11. Westman says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:40 am

    The social media majors could end this quickly by blocking all .de domain extentions until they have a signed agreement from Germany that precludes enforcement of German Government goose-stepping.

    The German elites actually think they can control the internet and modern communications. That’s a full-time job in China and yet we still see Ai Weiwei raising his digit flag.

  12. Jon Sobieski says

    May 24, 2017 at 10:47 am

    So if I write “Islam is crap” is that hate speech and will be taken down or be fined? Will I be personally prosecuted? Hate speech laws are blasphemy laws when it comes to religion, so Germany is upholding blasphemy laws. sharia rules.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      May 24, 2017 at 11:32 am

      And what about the Holy Ko-Ran? What troubles me is that if they make this law then the Holy Ko-Ran itself could be outlawed as hate speech for offending phrases (Sean Hannity’s words) like Kill them wherever you find them and such. That would amount to discrimination against Islam!

  13. Gbox says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:27 am

    Never before in history did an invader have the full cooperation of the invaded, where even criticizing the invasion is a crime.

    • Michelle says

      May 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm

      Gbox, nicely + succinctly stated. Your comment should be on a billboard! Thank you for your post :).

      • Gbox says

        May 24, 2017 at 4:06 pm

        Thanks for your response.

  14. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:28 am

    I hear Loretta Lynch is looking for work. Maybe she should give the Germans a call.

  15. John A. Marre says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:59 am

    You Will Accept Your New Rulers And You Will Not Say Anything Bad About Them!

  16. Barry says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    let’s say you have an opac white wall…and you splash blood-red all over it…..actually the same red color as human blood all over that nice opac white wall….it drips…runs down….now what do you have….an ugly wall…grossly ugly and having an accompanying death stench….as far as I’m concerned, all the (for now) free western European Politian’s (and Canada/ Australia) should be hung up by their buster browns….f**king morons….

  17. neversink says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Don’t worry — Only speech that the Merkel government and their jihadist allies determines is hateful will be enforce. It will still be okay for Muslims to scream Kill the Jew, Kill the infidel.

  18. mortimer says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    Germany has gone completely off its rocker. The Germans are totally fascist without knowing it. They seem not to realize that the PROHIBITION OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION IS NAZI.

    The only way they can prove they aren’t Nazis is by throwing out their lunatic politicians.

    Germany seems to be courting total national suicide.

    • Alien Republican says

      May 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm

      For the second time. Unlike WW2 this act will have consequence for generations to come.

  19. Infidel Lass says

    May 24, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    Well of course they’re looking at hefty fines.
    The Mohamedans aren’t going to feed themselves, you know.
    What better way to both crush dissent and find the money to pay the immigration bill than to create new crimes and make the people pay?
    “We’ll build new mosques and make the Germans pay for it!”- Merkel, apparently trying to counter Trump’s efforts to protect his country.

  20. Alien Republican says

    May 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    This is Merkel’s willing executioner. “Justice” Minister Maas.

    https://www.google.ch/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwib26yQpYnUAhWIblAKHdsHBkoQjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fr.de%2Fpolitik%2Fheiko-maas-der-lieblingsfeind-der-rechten-a-325887&psig=AFQjCNEqPG5SzW0-Nsay7drW6DC-8XX3wQ&ust=1495741411496435

  21. RationalVoice says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:14 pm

    To allow this odious women so many terms of office speaks volumes about the German “Heil Fuhrer” mentality. They haven’t changed since Hitler and continue to be a huge danger to Europe and the World

  22. Ali Bey says

    May 24, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    Germany could make a real profit from hate speech starting to fine imams and islamic “scholars” speeches…

    • Rob says

      May 25, 2017 at 7:42 pm

      Oh no, that would be “Islamophobia”!! Imams can openly preach hate, but you know that they don’t really MEAN it. (Only a fool or a fellow traveler believes that drivel.)

  23. Rolf Wittwer says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    LOOKS LIKE THE “FOURTH REICH” BEHIND THE CORNER?

  24. Arthur says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Orwell’s 1984 is playing out before our eyes: the only way to protect free speech is to have government authorities censor all speech.

    War is Peace
    Freedom is Slavery
    Ignorance is Strength

    Censorship is Free Speech

  25. Bob says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:56 pm

    Muslim gangs control much if not all of Berlin, I wonder how much pressure they are putting on German politicians to promote nonsense such as this?

  26. Joe says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:19 pm

    Merkel is the last nail in the German coffin.

  27. Peter Boardman (Peter the Hermit) says

    May 25, 2017 at 3:28 am

    So German philosopher Schopenhauer “… the detestable doctrine of Islam …” will shortly be banned in Germany. Wasn’t there another German who burned books?

  28. Atheist Kaffur says

    May 25, 2017 at 12:34 pm

    German people seem to hate freedom and freedom of speech. Whatever love affair they have with authoritarianism and Nazism has to stop. These politains will have a political price to pay, hopefully in jail.

  29. Rob says

    May 25, 2017 at 7:37 pm

    I know Merkel was born in (then) Communist East Germany. But whats up with her always giving the Nazi “sieg heil” salute? That and her rabid defense of Islam certainly makes you wonder what’s going on beneath that mop of hair.

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