This underscores yet again what I have said for years: there are sincere Muslim reformers, but there are also a great many deceivers (“War is deceit,” said Muhammad), and it is essentially impossible to tell one from the other. What is even worse about this story is that policy analysts read the New York Times and take it seriously, and base their recommendations upon it. If this imam had been in the United States, he could have attained great influence and access, as did another “moderate,” Abdurrahman Alamoudi, who is now in prison for financing al-Qaeda, or at very least tremendous influence in the Islamic community, as did Anwar al-Awlaki, who was also praised as a moderate in the New York Times and seen briefly in a PBS documentary on Muhammad, leading Islamic prayers on Capitol Hill with Hamas-linked CAIR’s Ibrahim Hooper, Nihad Awad, and Randall Ismail Royer, who later served time in prison for jihad activity, in the congregation.
“The jihadist of Alicante who even fooled the New York Times lives with four women and 18 children,” translated from “El yihadista de Alicante que engañó hasta al ‘New York Times’ vive con cuatro mujeres y 18 hijos,” by Alejandro Requeijo and Daniel Montero, El Español, April 28, 2017:
“Jihadists use religion for their personal purposes and declare war on Jews and Christians, but I want people to follow what Islam actually says.” So innocently did a pious Hesham Shashaa present himself seven years ago in a feature that the New York Times dedicated to him. The Muslim leader was living in Germany, where he said he would promote interreligious dialogue and warned that radical Islamists would brainwash young people. In order to fight against jihad, he justified his trips to mosques and madrasas from all over the Muslim world. However, this Wednesday the National Police arrested him in Alicante and accused him of aiding terrorists, some of them from the Islamic State.
As confirmed by various antiterrorism sources involved in his arrest, he is the same person who posed as a harmless Muslim believer in the pages of the American newspaper. He had succeeded in deceiving even the German authorities, as demonstrated by a police official who is cited in the New York Times report in which he was featured: “We know that he speaks and works against terrorism groups like Al Qaeda or the Taliban, and that is important.” This representative of German security, who preferred to remain anonymous, added that Shashaa “is the only example who is doing it in this way here in Germany, and in this sense he is effective.”
The American newspaper report even relates an anecdote in which the German police asked this man about a book on women in Islam that, given its content, is prohibited in Germany. They went to look at Shashaa’s personal library. “I need to know what is in these books; how else can I know how to communicate with the recruiters?” The Muslim leader came to Germany because, he told the newspaper, he lost his briefcase on a stopover in 2000 while on his way to Great Britain from Romania, where he had been living. “Everything was gone, the papers, the money, so I thought it was God’s will that I stay here,” he explained. But the National Police have another impression of this 46-year-old Egyptian citizen.
Relationship with Daesh
According to the statement issued by the Interior Ministry after his arrest, “he facilitated the return of Islamic State terrorists who had decided to return from Syria and Iraq by providing them with the necessary places of transit and refuge and assisting them in the documentation and procurement of economic resources.” The return of terrorists who have fought in conflict zones is one of the main concerns of Western security forces for fear of receiving more radical and more experienced jihadists in the handling of weapons and explosives.
In addition, the Department headed by Juan Ignacio Zoido adds that “the detainee took advantage of his privileged position within the Islamic Community of the province of Alicante to spread material that extols the attacks committed by DAESH and cruelly disparages their victims.” He also used social media as an instrument “to generate hate with the publication of videos in which terrorist leaders called for violent jihad as a method of indoctrination of their followers.”…
nomoreislamicstate says
You can not be a devout mooslime without supporting jihad, the religion calls for the heads of all infidels. When will the lefties out there wake up and realize how bad this religion is? Most do not like Christianity, yet, Christianity has modernized itself, Islam is the last of the barbaric religious cults which has not changed.
Bill W. says
Trump is right ,but he has to take in further why are these people free to cross in any Western Country. Why are the oil rich countries not taking in these” Refugees”? We the West and Western style countries(Japan, much Southeast Asia) must get energy from other places then the Islamic Sharia countries in the middle East. We have to get the Middle East money out of Western world, or we will all be living in Dhimmitude.
nomoreislamicstate says
We have the resources to survive on our own, the problem with that is the global market and wealthy people stop us from using our own resources, they buy those resources and sit on them when costs are high. When our oil production started growing, the Saudi’s lowered their oil sell price so that it was more profitable for the oil company owners to start buying and shipping to the US rather than mine here. It isn’t only the Saudis to blame, it is big oil, they only care about profits. When it is expensive to mine here and the Saudis are offering cheap oil, big oil buys and ships.
To really strengthen America, we all have to suck it up and pay extra to only buy things made in America, by Americans. I wish that could go for oil too, but you can not easily buy petroleum products only mined from American wells.
Big oil has too much control over resources all over the world, kick them out and start over, let the people own the mineral resources and not companies with owners from over seas.
Karen says
I agree, we should be buying American even if it hurts a bit. Look at all thing things you buy just at the grocery store; you’ll be surprised how many things now come from other countries; produce, meat, tissues, trash and kitchen bags, batteries, detergent, to name just a few. Many ‘generics says something about being “distributed” by an American company; my guess is that the unspoken thing is that they were manufactured overseas, so try to find one labeled ‘made in USA’. Most of us can spend a few pennies, or dollars to help keep our friends and neighbors employed.
eagle says
Why not consider putting an export tax on all oil shipped out of the country. A tax that would make our oil slightly higher by percentage than the Saudi’s oil market? The tax money could be used to rebuild our infrastructure.
eagle says
Obama has left the gate open. We now have CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood with a license to spread their filth throughout the country. The American people now have Muslim congressmen, Muslim judges and Muslims throughout the government. Soon America will be synonymous to Syria.The news media from the Obama administration still exists filtering the news allowing the Muslim movement to continue UN-noticed until the community gets adversely impacted so badly you cannot stop it.
Donald R Laster Jr says
A person appointed by Mr Obama to any position is acting unconstitutionally. Remember, under the US Constitution Mr Obama was not President. His father, at a minimum, prevents him from being a natural born Citizen of the US and therefore he was not actually President. We have damage to fix from that Islamic acquiring authority illicitly. People have gone to great lengths to redefine the meaning of “natural born Citizen” by ignoring its source and numerous historical references to the meaning and source.
eagle says
I have to agree, however, there is no more talk about that anywhere. Impeachment is off the table, Remember that? Just look at this country now, over run by the Muslim body. Thanks to Obama. CAIR does not want the truth about Islam and the Muslim body to reach the American public. John Guandolo’s training will save American lives all over the country. This course should be available at every college and learning institution in the country. The Muslim threat movement has been censored in the news media for too long a time. The truth about the Muslims is shameful and embarrassing to the American people so the censorship has to continue. I congratulate the Arizona Police Association, UTT and the Culpeper County Sheriff’s Office for their service and courage for protecting the American people through education and bringing the truth out in to the open about the Muslim threat in this country.
kessler says
Another example of how hopelessly naive people are and how unwilling they are to ask the necessary questions before concluding who can be categorised as moderates.
There is this absurd idea that if a muslim denounces ISIS and violence against non-muslims, they are moderates. No questions are asked about their view on apostasy, blasphemy, homosexuality and whether Sharia law is superior to Western democracy. Asking these questions are racist, because they would highlight an inconvenient truth. Head in the sand, hope for the best…
eur says
Even the moderates are theocratic. It was evident by just seeing this character who was not a normal person, these types of people can not live in a modern society. How can you have four women and eighteen children? We do not live in a society of shepherds and goatherds. Islam is a danger to any society, Muslims do not bring anything of value to Western society, on the contrary they devalue and bring terrorism. It is not enough to be peaceful … you have to be democratic, the Muslims are not, they have their law and they want to impose it.Islam is a sect, self censorship, control and denuncain, they boycott the Muslim who gets off the line until he corrects their behavior and then is accepted again by the sect …. we must end Islam before Islam ends us.
Karen says
“It is not enough to be peaceful … you have to be democratic…”
This is brilliant; I’m going to ‘borrow’ this when discussing with friends. 🙂
Frank Anderson says
I suggest from a lifetime of reading that trying to find a “moderate” Muslim is as futile an effort as trying to find a “moderate” Nazi in Hitler’s Germany or “moderate” Communist in Stalin’s Soviet Union or Mao’s China. Apostates are killed, even on the suspicion of apostasy. The whole idea is delusional and those who embrace the idea are really ?????. They refuse to face the reality of the life or death challenge we face. Please take a look at what Viktor Frankl, M.D. Psychiatrist, observed in the Nazi death camps to identify his “delusion of reprieve” where people lie to themselves because they refuse to face the truth. It is a very short and extremely well-written book titled “Man’s Search for Meaning.”
To be a Muslim a person is required to believe and live the whole package or die. Those who pretend and remain Muslim are more likely than not practicing the Islamic rule of deception, to delay and spread confusion among Infidels. If Islam is so bad, why don’t those who pretend to be “moderates” or “reformers” get out? (paraphrasing Mark Gabriel, Ph.D in The Unfinished Battle “If Islam is go great why were 4,000,000 Egyptians murdered to force it on Egypt?”) (Gabriel converted to Christianity from Islam). I hope for better understanding and awareness before we lose.
Nigel GFF says
I’m shocked!
No doubt his ‘wives’ and children are too. Of course, he will be denied by his local mosque, who will admit only that he was a very rare attendee and not particularly pious, with a suggestion of mental illness to boot.
These enablers, (NYT and the German authorities also) will never be questioned or ‘brought to book’.
P.S. I didn’t know that polygamy is lawful in Spain.
eur says
It is not, but some Muslims take advantage. In my city the town hall has given social apartments (for Muslims and some other minorities ..). The rent is paid by the council, the furniture … then also have social aid and the more children the more help they get. The light, the water … all we pay and above has a kind of salary life that serves them to Pay the food..no need to work. There is a Muslim who will be about fifty years old, always dressed like Mohammed, does not relate to anyone in the neighborhood, goes to the mosque every day because he does not work (he lives on helps). He puts on music helmets (Koranic shits) And goes to the mosque and returns home, ignoring anyone. In these buildings there are a lot of Moorish children and there are not so many grown men. It is evident that they practice polygamy, that they have cheated to acquire the aparatamentos and that a parents of several women in several apartments. It’s crazy, Muslims practice polygamy, they live on us … and they hate us.
mortimer says
The CLUELESS, unstudied, unread Western elites do not know that TAQIYYA is VERBAL JIHAD.
The NYT reporters and their editors have not read the PRIMARY SOURCE TEXTS of Islam, and yet, PREPOSTEROUSLY, they present themselves as authorities on ISLAM… especially what ‘MODERATE ISLAM’ is.
MUSLIMS say what ‘moderate’ is:
“Moderation” is demonstrated by our prophet who did not remain more than three months in Medina without raiding or sending a raiding party into the lands of the infidels to beat down their strongholds and seize their possessions, their lives, and their women” (from The Al-Qaeda Reader, page 56).
A ‘moderate’ Muslim will only kill, plunder, rape, murder, torture, enslave you FOUR TIMES per year … or every three months. So alright, then! That’s nothing to worry about! They won’t kill us every day, will they?
Actually, there are 4.5 DEADLY JIHAD ATTACKS every day of the year. Since Mohammed, one KAFIR has died every three minutes due to JIHAD.
Bill W. says
During the 1930s The NYT wrote how Stalin was doing a good job at the same time he was murdering millions in southern Russia .I do not known what year it was but Hitler was made the man of the year his picture on Time mag. in the 1930s the media always does not see the truth. They print what the masters of the day tell them to print right now there masters are the far left.
gravenimage says
You are right, Bill. The worst was the appalling Walter Duranty.
Pal says
Bill W.:
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019712_2019694_2019588,00.html
http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2019712_2019694_2019592,00.html
Frank Anderson says
A name not frequently mentioned for reasons unknown to me on this forum is Glenn Beck. When he was on Fox he presented a 44 minute special (1 hour with commercials) titled Live Free or Die. The massive killings of Che, Stalin, Mao and others were discussed, including by some actual witnesses and survivors. I have found this special to be highly persuasive to me.
Bill W. says
Thank you so Hitler was on the front of Time mag. in Jan 1939 for the man of the year(1938) , he invaded Poland Sept. 1 1939 the media still backing crazy cult leader 2017.
Bill W. says
That is the media love affair with the islamics in 2017 compared to it love affair with the Nazis in the 1930s.Not Glenn Beck, there are people on the web and some print news that fight back now as then.
brane pilot says
I say it again.
The problem is not Islam. The problem is our Civilization collapsing from self inflicted wounds starting in the 1960s.
Islam is simply the hyenas circling a wounded animal.
RichardL says
I agree. And like hyenas the devil-worshipping zebibaed apes are very ugly.
AleX says
Once the page is turned, the muzgroids will meet their doom. It takes time for the West to realize other cultures are simply inferior.
Once the realization is made, measures will be taken. The populace will take matters into their own hands. The purge will then become a natural process where society will exclude them from every sector.
Muzgroids are not made for progress. The only logical outcome is their own isolation in every community they settle. And naturally, they will be excluded from it by the very members who hosted them in the first place.
politicallyincorrectistruth says
What a fucking moron you are. To say that Islam is not the problem is an insult to all those people who have been blown to pieces, decapitated, shot, burnt alive, gang raped, FGM etc etc. 30,000 Muslim Jihard attacks since 9/11 and you say islam is not the problem! Fuck off you dipshit.
Donald R Laster Jr says
All Islamics are a threat. And when one understands what Islam teaches, one understands why all Islamic have to be considered at a minimum as a sleeper cell waiting to be activated. People who don’t learn what Islam actually teaches are easily deceived since most people have a hard time believing that a person can be as depraved as people who practice Islam really are. After all, Adolf Hitler wrote a book and telling everyone what he believed and would do and he was still elected to rule Germany. Deception is a fundamental part of Islam.
Frank Anderson says
Donald I agree. I suggest remembering the quote from Wyle v. R.J.Reynolds, 709 F2d 585 (9th Cir. 1983) “Deliberate ignorance constitutes knowledge of the truth.”
I have an honored friend of decades who was so deliberately ignorant of the real Islam because he had been told by professors the “religion of peace” lie that he refused to see for himself. I had to back away from frustration. I still value his contributions to my life; but I regret his refusal to see the real Islam.
Dave Flang says
“This underscores yet again what I have said for years: there are sincere Muslim reformers,”
All Muslims must follow the Quran so ALL Muslims are potential terrorists, who haven’t vetted themselves yet.
Having many children is a way to take over a nation. To maintain a nation the people must be at 2.1 births per family and America is at 2.1 with illegals. Europe is at 1.8 and Muslims are at 8.
Can you say Allah be praised?
Donald R Laster Jr says
By the way the phrase “Can you say Allah be praised?” when all of the words are in English is:
“Can you say the God be praised?”
The word “allah” is a contraction of the Arabic words “Al” (the) and Illah (god). A Christian or Jew using the word “Allah” is referencing “Jehovah/Christ”, a 1st Century Roman Jupiter, a1st Century Greek Zeus. The phrase “Allah Akbar” simply means the “the god is great.”
In discussions of Islam using the correct name of the god of Islam is important IMHO.
Kanda says
Common sense tells me that ,Islam is not a religion,but a gangasta ideology with purely carnal desires.Confusion,manipulation,deception and all that is evil lie at the very core of Islam.For the good of humanity it has to. Be banned..The strange thing about it is that to be considered a true Muslim,the follower must practice the complete opposite of what is considered good!
Donald R Laster Jr says
Islam is a theocracy. That is a political system with a religious component. The religious component involves the worship of Hubal, who is also known historically as Baal and is associated with the moon. In the world where Mohammad came from Hubal was the chief god of a pantheon of 360 gods. From the research and reading I have done Hubal was married to the Sun goddess and has three daughters who are stars in the heavens. I don’t remember their names. Mohammad was a dedicated follower of Hubal and did not like the fact the worship of his god was disappearing in favor of Christianity and Judaism. The political aspect of Islam is the primary aspect and any depravity is allowed to advance Islam and the worship of Hubal. Islam is rooted in depravity and always has been.
Rick Spencer says
Wow! Note that splendid (yuck!) zebibah on his forehead. No Mohammedan with a (prized) blemish like that would be a ‘moderate’ Muslim.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Yeah, I too wondered about that unusual zebibah. How do you have to bang your forehead on the prayer mat to get a two-part zebibah? But Mr. Shashaa (great name, suitable for a comic book character) is a dialogue-promoting ecumenist, so may this photo was taken on Ash Wednesday.
David M says
I noticed the zebibah too. He looks like Osama Bin Laden, & they think he is a moderate?
Frank Anderson says
David, I think the generally accepted among the collaborators definition of “moderate” is someone who wants to kill you, but can wait a while as he tortures you with lies. A “radical” is someone who wants to kill all Infidels now. To be a Muslim is to wish for murder and death. The only distinction I can see is how fast those happen. How far off am I?
Berengaria says
How in this World, will we ever get these Fleas back into
Their Sand Trap? Since the 1990s’, the US GOV agreed to be invaded by these Uncouth Savages, but we, True
citizens did not have an inkling of what the GOV & MUSLIMS were REALLY going to do to us.
I LOVE OUR PRESIDENT TRUMP, but he is unable or unwilling to slow down the invasion, the Enemy Troops arrive, First Class, everyday.
THE REAL WAR IS “HERE IN THE US”, NOT IN AFGHANISTAN, IRAQ or any other Muslim HellHole, where are Troops are embedded with the Muslim Enemy.
Our own troops need to be “In Country” Stomping Muslims’ derrieres into the GROUND!
Jake says
The NYT fooled? This is a distinguished tradition dating back at least to the thirties when Duranty toured the Soviet Union, extolling its virtues right through the middle of a man made famine of epic proportions.
Frank Anderson says
Jake, “epic proportions”? Approximately 10,000,000 dead in about 18 months. Search “Holodomor”. Ukraine needed 12,000,000 tons to feed itself and produced 15,000,000 and the Russians took it all. Tell the story instead of dropping hints. What do you think Islam would do to us if it gets control?
gravenimage says
Frank, I’m not sure what you think Jake got wrong. He sounds spot on to me.
Donald R Laster Jr says
The Soviets killed more people that Hitler ever did. The counts of people killed by the Soviets is around 50 million from what I have read. In fact the National Socialists were welcomed as liberators and would have take the USSR if Hitler had been patience before letting the death squads free rein. Hitler and National Socialist only killed around 12 million people. Mao is reported to have killed around 70 million, and Pol Pot killed around 3 million – 1/2 the population of the country.
The Islamics have killed even more. When they invaded India the count of people killed is 100 million. The practice of Hindu women throwing themselves on the funeral pyres of their husband and men dates from this time. They preferred to die than be made into sex slaves. And then there is all of the people they have murdered/slaughtered in Arabia, the Middle East, and North Africa when the Islamics invaded in the late 600s and 700s which is in the tens of millions as well.
Frank Anderson says
GI, he is spot on but left out details that I believe are vital to illustrate the magnitude of the horror. I agree with his post but feel the details make the point clearer, Thank you for the question.
Karen says
“The jihadist of Alicante who even fooled the New York Times…”
Who even fooled the NYT? I think the authors of this article vastly over-rate the perception of the NYT, their willingness to dig slightly below the surface in cases involving Muslims, and their willingness to give a dang about America.
Sarah says
The way I see it today, is that if someone is wearing a certain specific form of clothing (whether male or female) that denotes a specific religion, then they are not, in any way, shape or form, considerable as ‘moderate’.
This idiot is wandering around looking like an extra off the casting for a Osama Bin Laden movie. Amusingly, that’s what 90% of Arabs look like. With his degenerate hobo beard and Nanna’s clean,pressed checkered tea towel draped over his head.
He does not look moderate. He looks like an Arab Muslim. And we all know, that Arab culture and Islam are so completely intertwined with one another today that you simply cannot separate the two or identify different areas. Only an utter idiot would have looked at him and thought ‘yep, he likes peace, puppies, rainbows and unicorns’.
gravenimage says
Sarah wrote:
The way I see it today, is that if someone is wearing a certain specific form of clothing (whether male or female) that denotes a specific religion, then they are not, in any way, shape or form, considerable as ‘moderate’.
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Surely that doesn’t mean that you think that Jews who wear a Star of David or Christians who wear a Cross or Hindus who wear a Bindi are just the same as this Muslim supporter of the Islamic State?
Donald R Laster Jr says
Make sure you learn what Islam teaches. Islam is not peaceful. It is rooted in violence and depravities. ALL Islamics are a threat and at a minimum have to treated as sleeper cells. A Jew or Christian is not taught to kill and lie by their theology. The Islamic theocracy does. Don’t fall for the lies Islamic use to deceive people about the real teachings of Islam. Get a Qur’an and read it. 978-0-913321-01-0 and 978-0-9785528-8-6 are ISBNs of Qur’an I have read and studied.
Sarah says
No. I am not conflating Islam with the Jews or Christianity – or pretty much any other religion on the planet. Islam its own festering pit of depravity and its from Islam where we see near constant violence, threats and risks – not from conservative Jews or Christians, Hindus or Mormons etc.
But a Jew that wears the tichel or the the kippah, day in day out – that’s not a moderate Jew. It certainly doesn’t make them a bad person. It doesn’t make Orthodoxy or whichever strain they follow, bad or violent. But its not moderate.
Look at Catholicism. Which women in Catholicism wear head coverings? The Nun’s, just about the only Catholics today who do. Nun’s aren’t moderate 🙂 – Nun’s are a bunch of women who have chosen to put themselves away in a convent and spend their lives in service to their God. It doesn’t make them bad, or more prone to violence. But compare them to the average Catholic probably living in your street – the dude who goes to Mass however many times a year, rocks out confession when he feels the need to and celebrates the major holidays and feasts – he is a world apart from a sweet little Nun.
Look at hardcore Evangelical Christians. The women wear very very modest clothing for Western culture and that clothing is a part of their faith, which is not a moderate form of Christianity. They are easily identifiable for it. Its not bad, or violent or more prone to evil. But compare someone who is a standard old Christian, say a Methodist, to someone like that Duggar family in America – you know, those hardcore Baptists. That’s not moderate Christianity that they follow.
Compare your average Mormon to the Polygamist Mormons who hide in those compounds – one form is moderate Mormonism, the other ain’t moderate – and you can spot the polygamists from a hundred paces by their very specific clothing choices.
Wearing a cross, or carrying a rosary, or wearing a bindi etc – this is a common form of religious expression for the human race. Covering your face/hair/body or wearing very specific items of clothing that specifically relate to certain elements of your particular brand of faith, in my opinion, do not give off a sense of moderate worship.
Again – it doesn’t make it bad, or evil or wrong. It just is. Its just an expression from someone who identifies closely with a very formal or conservative or orthodox form of their religion. Islam, is a different story again because I don’t believe that there is such a thing as a moderate Muslim as opposed to a fundamental or extreme Muslim. They’re all the same, that is not a religion that allows for any innovation or interpretation outside of its strict rules, unlike the other religions, almost all of which, have spun off various reboots, iterations and adaptations of the base religion.
gravenimage says
Imam praised as moderate by New York Times arrested for Islamic State ties
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And this should surprise no one…
Stan Lee says
The NY Times review of this bloke tarnishes the entire issue of him. I would prefer to have Pravda give its results of reviewing this jihadist, before believing a demonstrated corrupt NY paper and arm of the Democrat-Socialist Party.
Karen says
Yes, exactly. At least we know how to view Pravda, while the NYT is still able to fool people by waving around the last remaining shreds of it credibility.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Pravda has more credibility and integrity today than all of the US media combined. 🙂
Karen says
no doubt!
underbed cat says
Therein lies the problem. Unless our national security agents, leaders judges, lawyers take a hard look at Islam, the one found in the Quran and Sharia law as it is described in Reliance of the Traveler, the exquisite deception will continue to misinform those who are required to protect our Constitution and culture. The marketing of Islam has been a marketers dream…to create fantasy Islam, in suits, white robes and flowing hijibs..softly speaking, highly educated with all the credentials, it only works on the group who never read nor believe that what terrorist quotes from the Quran is accurate as if they too could be = imams….who would gladly help solve the problem they will never solve. But you can keep trying…..