The Qur’an contains numerous condemnations of homosexual activity: “And [We had sent] Lot when he said to his people, ‘Do you commit such immorality as no one has preceded you with from among the worlds? Indeed, you approach men with desire, instead of women. Rather, you are a transgressing people.’…And We rained upon them a rain [of stones]. Then see how was the end of the criminals.” (Qur’an 7:80-84)
Muhammad specifies the punishment for this in a hadith: “The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Loot, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.’” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4462)
But in the West, even gay activists such as Chris Stedman will tell you that to stand against this brutality and oppression is hateful, bigoted and “Islamophobic.”
“Indonesia’s Aceh: Two gay men sentenced to 85 lashes,” BBC, May 17, 2017:
A Sharia court in Indonesia’s Aceh province has sentenced two men to be caned in public for having gay sex.
The men were found guilty of violating strict Islamic laws in conservative Aceh and will receive 85 lashes each.
The pair, aged 20 and 23, were found in bed together by vigilantes in March. They have not been identified.
Gay sex is not illegal in the rest of Muslim-majority Indonesia and this is its first such conviction. Aceh is the only province where Sharia is in force.
The sentence is due to be carried out next week.
While the judges did not give the maximum punishment of 100 lashes, the sentence is heavier than the 80 lashes asked for by the prosecution.
Public caning sentences have been handed down previously only for gambling and drinking alcohol.
Aceh has become increasingly conservative in recent years. Strict laws against homosexuality were passed in 2014 and came into effect the following year.
Judge Khairil Jamal told the court that the men had been “proven legally and convincingly guilty of committing gay sex”, according to the AFP news agency.
When the sentence was being read out, the two men covered their faces with their shirt and hands.
Local officials claim that Sharia law is in line with Aceh’s long Islamic tradition. Munawar, an official in charge of overseeing the implementation of the law, says “people want to implement comprehensive Islamic teachings including the enacting of its criminal code”.
He also says the Qanun Jinayat – as the Islamic criminal law enacted in Aceh in 2015 is known locally – is an effective deterrent.
The law covers the consumption, production and distribution of alcohol; gambling; adultery; extra-marital sex and homosexual acts.
Punishments include caning and imprisonment, but not stoning….
How moderate!
Michael says
yes, how moderate and thoughtful — only 85 lashes with a cane. I imagine that such punishments have killed more than a few people.
what will it take for gays in this country, and around the world, to wake up to the utter brutality of Islam? Do gays actually support Sharia law — a law that would see THEM receive such violent punishment? Which is mild, considering that gays have been thrown from rooftops, and I’m sure tortured and murdered for being gay.
Wake up, everyone … wake up to the pure evil of Islam.
marina says
Vice president Pence said “the country’s form of Islam should serve as an example to other nations”.
Yeah right !!!!
PRCS says
And General McMaster probably thinks that punishment is “a perverted interpretation of religion”.
Carolyne says
A car just mowed down a crowd at Times Square injuring 13 people. The driver has been arrested but not yet identified. I will bet that the name is Mohammed or a variation thereof. Is this the kind of Islam VP Pence has referred to?
gravenimage says
I just heard about this, Carolyne. Traffic is generally so heavy and slow in the Times Square area that even a drunk or otherwise impaired person would generally not be able to mow down 22 people. Apparently the driver was going at a high speed.
A Jihad attack? It is certainly looking likely. One victim has died–I hope the others survive.
Jihadists have certainly targeted Times Square before.
Donald R Laster Jr says
This sounds like a classic example of why all Islamics have to be considered a threat. The Islamic theocracy, laws from Hubal given to Mohammad as written as Shar’iah law, uses this type of thing to take over an area. This is also why people need to understand that Islam is a theocracy and not a religion. Violence of this sort is normal part of many political system’s agenda. This type of thing was done by International and National Socialist all over the world.
miriamrove says
But Though Islam was a religion of peace, no? m
PRCS says
No tall buildings there?
Dan says
Wow.
They must have a pretty severe penalty for men raping little boys. (Sarc.)
Monty says
Hey, this is moderate Islam at its very best. We Australians are so impressed. Yes, sarcasm intended.
gravenimage says
Muslims only hate same-sex relationships between consenting adults. Raping boys is fine.
harbidoll says
Now you understand—Its the reverse of our teachings.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Harbidoll–Islam is not just immoral, it is the *very inversion* of morality.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
so Christians see nothing bad in gay sex behavior which even beasts do not practice?It means christians behave bellow the beasts.yet filthy christians in the west brag to be civilised people. i cannot understand how civilised these savage people are.Gay practice add more bad smells to christian environments.muslims will not allow this madness to prevail in their society.
northern lights says
Shut-up you Muslim moron. The “beasts” any day before Muslims and filthy Islam.
Nigel GFF says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
Donald R Laster Jr says
I have yet to find any credible proof of sodomy behavior in animals. When one opens “the door” and looks at the actual behavior it is dominance behavior or reproduction driven behavior. For instance Bonobo monkey give the appearance of engaging in sodomy. But it is dominance where the higher ranking monkey demonstrate he can treat the lower ranking monkey as a female. Therefore, the higher ranking monkey has the selection of females when they go into heat for reproduction. But people want to have animals engaging in sodomy, remember the word homosexual is used to avoid the word sodomy, to justify the behavior in humans. Some male swans who lose their mates are known to team up with another male and steal eggs because the drive to reproduce is so strong. And female Arctic Terns who can not get a male will team up with with another female, one or both will go and mate with mated males, lay eggs and the two females raise them. When a male Hippo beats another male Hippo in a dominance battle the winner will ejaculate on the loser. Male Dolphins are known to engage in the “mine is bigger than yours” behavior. They are all engaging in classic dominance behaviors. Neither the Hippos or Dolphins are not engaging in sodomy or “homosexuality”.
So when one look past the partial descriptions of the behavior what will be seen is classic dominance behavior or reproduction driven behavior. In every example people have cited so far when one looks at the whole behavior, the animals are not engaging in sodomy but are engaging in dominance and reproduction driven behavior. So far the only animals they engage in sodomy are humans.
gravenimage says
Foul apologist for savagery ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
so (sic) Christians see nothing bad in gay sex behavior which even beasts do not practice?It (sic) means christians (sic) behave bellow (sic) the beasts.yet (sic) filthy christians (sic) in the west brag to be civilised people.
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Another case of a pious Muslim disgusted that civilized people are not savages like himself and his coreligionists.
Note–this from someone who considers forced marriage and child marriage to be Halal, as well as polygamy and the use of sex slaves. Raping Infidels in Jihad is lauded.
But he is enraged that we don’t want to beat gay people to death.
More:
i (sic) cannot understand how civilised these savage people are.Gay (sic) practice add more bad smells to christian environments.muslims (sic) will not allow this madness to prevail in their society.
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Raping boys is fine, and raping in order to humiliate is Halal, and looking forward to raping “pearly boys” in Paradise is sacralized in Islam.
As always in Islam, the only thing pious Muslims find truly objectionable is consensual relations between adults.
God, I hate Islam.
And muhammed is obsessed with “bad smells”. Previously he was ranting on and on about what the foreskins of Infidel men smelled like, which really makes you wonder about him…
No Fear says
Mohammedans follow a gangster leader, Mohammed who killed Jews and pagans. Why don’t you read your own “holy” texts? All the filth of Mohammed is there for all the world to read. Pox on your holy texts, pox on Mohammed. I spit on your crapulous creed.
Carolyne says
Whether a person is gay or not gay is none of your business, Ibrahim. Why do you think you have a right to tell people how they should practice sex? Speaking of smelling bad, just don’t stand downwind of a muslim. Especially not near his left hand.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
so ,filthy christians and evil jews see nothing bad in gay practice even though their scriptures prescribe death penalty for it?you are the worst of mankind.
northern lights says
You’re filthy and you’re evil, Muslim. You are the worst of mankind. Islam is a plague on humanity.
Monty says
I am a Christian. Homosexuality is sin. So is murder, rape, lying, stealing, sex with animals, and many evils practiced by Muslims without a twinge of conscience. No one gets away with it, Ibrahim. We all face the judgement of God. If we accept Jesus, His death and resurrection as payment for our sins, we will be forgiven, both in this life and the next. If not, we will be condemned. Judgement day is not so far off.
gravenimage says
As ibrahim itace muhammed sees it, we are the “worst of mankind” because we are not murdering peaceful people.
*This* is Muslim “morality”. *Ugh*.
No Fear says
You are a Mohammedan. Mohammed was a criminal gangster.
Carolyne says
Nope, nothing bad at all. It is bad, however to beat women, kill them for honor of which you have none, and torture animals. I am sure your parents are first cousins. Nothing else could explain your low IQ.
gravenimage says
+1
Nigel GFF says
…”Aceh is the only province where Sharia is in force.”…
Phew, thanks BBC for that reassurance. I was concerned that there might be other Sharia courts in the rest of ‘moderate’ Indonesia, or even here in the UK. Phew…
Donald R Laster Jr says
And both men were probably regularly sodomized as young boys by other Islamic men. Islamic men apparently regularly sodomize boys. At least one US Soldier got into trouble protecting a boy from being sodomized by a Afghan police/army officer, and Yasar Afafat reported keep a stable of boys he sodomized on a regular basis.
gravenimage says
Here’s that grotesque story, Donald:
“U.S. soldiers ordered to ignore Afghan allies’ abuse of boys”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/u-s-soldiers-ordered-to-ignore-afghan-allies-abuse-of-boys
billybob says
God sent a tsunami to punish those people in Aceh. They obviously didn’t get the message.
gravenimage says
Indonesia’s Aceh: Sharia court sentences two gay men to 85 lashes
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These poor men. That many lashes can kill.
God, I hate Islam.
No Fear says
If I had my way I would build a wall around Aceh to stop the spread of the pestilence that is contained there.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
gravenimage,you hate Islam simply because you are possessed by the satan appearing to you like a dove your mithraist bible refered to as the holy spirit or holy ghost(your god no.3).It is this insanity as a result of satanic possession that pushes christians to develope hatred towards Islam and could not cherish the beauty of sharia ;they prefer to lead bellow animal way of life.Gravenimage,i urge you to abandone filthy christianity invented by the satan,you will like islam and discover that sharia is a blessing to mankind
Donald R Laster Jr says
If you actually understood Christianity or Judaism you would know that there is one god. Jehovah/Christ simply took on 3 roles – the Father, the Son, the Spirit – to present himself to the creation. You should real the Qur’an and look at where Islam is from. The god of Islam is Hubal, who is associated with moon and is the chief god of the Arab pantheon of 360 gods. Hubal is also known as Baal.
Promoting deviant behaviors, as is done is Shar’iah law and the Qur’an is not something any society wants. Anyone who takes the time to read the Qur’an, look at the real history, and has any sort of moral foundation wants nothing to do with Islam. It is a depraved theocracy rooted in deviant and abnormal behavior. Instead of ranting about Christianity, Judaism, or any other religion, you should look in the mirror and look at what Islam actually teaches and is practiced based on those teachings.
gravenimage says
More from the vicious ibrahim itace muhammed, this time directed at myself:
gravenimage,you (sic) hate Islam simply because you are possessed by the satan appearing to you like a dove your mithraist (sic) bible refered (sic) to as the holy spirit or holy ghost(your (sic) god no.3).
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Right–one is “possessed by the satan” if one considers flogging gay people or throwing them off rooftops to be barbarism. sarc/off
I also hate Islam because of child rape, sex slavery, and the mass slaughter of unbelievers. Pious Muslims are so warped that they consider it “satanic” *not* to enslave, rape, and murder others.
More:
It (sic) is this insanity as a result of satanic possession that pushes christians (sic) to develope hatred towards Islam and could not cherish the beauty of sharia ;
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Remember, the “beauty” of Shari’ah includes cutting off the hands and feet of petty thieves, throwing gay people off tall buildings, and stoning rape victims to death:
“Amnesty International: ‘Woman’ stoned to death in Somalia was 13-year-old rape victim”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/11/amnesty-international-woman-stoned-to-death-in-somalia-was-13-year-old-rape-victim
Muslims consider this bloody savagery “beautiful”.
More:
they (sic) prefer to lead bellow (sic) animal way of life.
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muhammed considers those who try to prevent children from being abused, women from being used as sex slaves, and non-violent victims to be butchered to be “bellow animal way of life”. This is because muhammed and his coreligionists are taught that this barbarism is not only human behavior, but is actually something to aspire to. And why? Because the “Prophet” was a pedophile, a warlord, a rapist, a slaver, and a mass murderer.
Yet more:
Gravenimage,i (sic) urge you to abandone (sic) filthy christianity (sic) invented by the (sic) satan,you (sic) will like islam (sic) and discover that sharia is a blessing to mankind
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Why would I “like Islam”? I don’t like being raped. I don’t like others to be raped, especially children. I don’t believe that people who worship differently should be slaughtered. I don’t believe that “disobedient” women should be “Honor Killed”.
I don’t think rape victims should be stoned to death. I don’t think that gay people should be thrown to their deaths.
I don’t think that muhammed really believes that I would consider these evils a “blessing”.
This is the orthodox “Invitation to Islam”. After a Muslim makes such an “offer”, he is free to murder the victim if they fail to take him up on it.
*That’s* what this is–a threat. muhammed would probably try to make good on it if he knew where I live. *Ugh*.
No Fear says
Begone Mohammedan. You are an idolator, a worshipper of Mohammed’s words (which make up 83% of the Quran). You worship a gangster, murderer, child rapist and thief. Read of the abominable behaviour of Mohammed in his book the Quran and descriptions of his behaviour the Hadith. Mohammedans worship a man, a gangster, called Mohammed.
Politicianphobia says
I bra him. Try and find an exceptionally good shrink. A warning to you be careful what you say about God–you have no idea about power. You and your religion promote dominance over women –spineless basts that you are. I had a dream all the women in the world–crazy as they are–took off their bras and strangled all the men of “The religion of peace. Do you think it might be a message?
Carolyne says
All women in the world are crazy? Where did you get that idea? Nonsense.
gravenimage says
I could not agree more, Carolyne.
Politicianphobia says
Imam Mazim Abdul-Adhim, of London, Ontario says women are not stable.
gravenimage says
And now you are taking your cues from savage Mohammedans?
Politicianphobia says
It was a dream or should I say nightmare.
MacUalraig says
These men will get justice. Along with every other innocent queer man or woman persecuted by The Muzz.
The Pink Pistol Brigade will see to that eventually, I’m assured.