“During their brief control of key towns in the vast north, jihadist groups imposed a version of Sharia law which forced women to wear veils and set whipping, stoning and mutilation as punishment for transgressions.”
There is no version of Sharia law that does not require women to wear veils and doesn’t prescribe whipping, stoning and mutilation as punishment for transgressions. There are Muslim countries that don’t implement Sharia punishments or enforce Sharia restrictions upon women. But those countries are not operating according to some “moderate” form of Sharia. There is no such form of Sharia, except in the fantasies of Western non-Muslims.
The punishment this couple received is based on Islamic law, as codified from several ahadith. The caliph Umar, one of Muhammad’s closest companions, maintained that the punishment of death for adultery was originally in the Qur’an:
‘Umar said, “I am afraid that after a long time has passed, people may say, “We do not find the Verses of the Rajam (stoning to death) in the Holy Book,” and consequently they may go astray by leaving an obligation that Allah has revealed. Lo! I confirm that the penalty of Rajam be inflicted on him who commits illegal sexual intercourse, if he is already married and the crime is proved by witnesses or pregnancy or confession.” Sufyan added, “I have memorized this narration in this way.” ‘Umar added, “Surely Allah’s Apostle carried out the penalty of Rajam, and so did we after him.” (Bukhari, vol. 8, bk. 82, no. 816)
“Allah’s Apostle” is, of course, Muhammad, who did indeed carry out stonings. Here is the hadith in which he challenges the rabbis about stoning, and in which there is amidst the barbarism and brutality a final act of love and compassion:
The Jews came to Allah’s Apostle and told him that a man and a woman from amongst them had committed illegal sexual intercourse. Allah’s Apostle said to them, “What do you find in the Torah (old Testament) about the legal punishment of Ar-Rajm (stoning)?” They replied, (But) we announce their crime and lash them.” Abdullah bin Salam said, “You are telling a lie; Torah contains the order of Rajm.” They brought and opened the Torah and one of them solaced his hand on the Verse of Rajm and read the verses preceding and following it. Abdullah bin Salam said to him, “Lift your hand.” When he lifted his hand, the Verse of Rajm was written there. They said, “Muhammad has told the truth; the Torah has the Verse of Rajm. The Prophet then gave the order that both of them should be stoned to death. (‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar said, “I saw the man leaning over the woman to shelter her from the stones.” (Bukhari, vol. 4, bk. 56, no. 829)
Even the monkeys practiced stoning, according to another hadith:
During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them. (Bukhari, vol. 5, bk. 58, no. 188)
Muhammad’s example is, of course, normative for Islamic behavior, since “truly in the messenger of Allah you have an excellent example for him who looks to Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah much” (Qur’an 33:21).
“Unmarried Mali couple stoned to death for violating ‘Islamic law,'” Agence France-Presse, May 18, 2017:
An unmarried couple were stoned to death in public in northeast Mali by “Islamists”, local officials revealed, the first such incident since jihadist groups were driven out of the region.
Jihadists seized key northern cities in March 2012, and though they were driven out by a French-led military intervention in 2013, Islamist groups continue to make their presence felt with frequent attacks on domestic and foreign forces.
“The Islamists dug two holes where they put the man and the woman who lived maritally without being married,” said a local official. “They were stoned to death.”
The stoning happened in Taghlit on Tuesday, close to Aguelhok in the Kidal region, and the same source told AFP that members of the public were invited to take part.
“Four people threw stones at them until they died,” they said.
Another local official said the Islamists had accused the unmarried couple of violating “Islamic law”, which requires punishment by stoning.
During their brief control of key towns in the vast north, jihadist groups imposed a version of Sharia law which forced women to wear veils and set whipping, stoning and mutilation as punishment for transgressions….
Ross Lloyd says
You can’t just “drive the Islamists out.” They have to be hunted down and summarily executed.
gravenimage says
95% of the population of Mali is Muslim. I imagine many of them are “Islamists”.
It is not as though “Islamism”–a made up term–is actually different from Islam.
maghan says
In this instance, it must be the primitive Tuaregs who are responsible for this criminal behavior. They are very stupid and more Arab than the Arabs themselves. Have no idea why Africans embrace Islam–a nonsense religion whose Saudi supporters refer routinely to Africans as “abeed”–meaning slave. Such masochistic stupidity must always be challenged.
gravenimage says
It certainly could be the Tuaregs, Maghan–but it could be any Islamic group there. Really, “Islamists” are not separate from “Muslims”.
mortimer says
Stoning is defended with the story of Mohammed stopping to join monkeys who stoned an adulterous monkey. Sane, rational people would not believe that there is such a thing as ‘marriage’ for monkeys, but Mohammedans are forced to believe this LUDICROUS rubbish because Mohammed taught it.
Islam humiliates the mind and kills people who have committed no crime but to love one another.
maghan says
Basic logic escapes the Muslim mind. Quar’an 33:50 et passim advocates that women captured in war can be raped and enslaved. Clearly, the rapists were not married to their victims–so why weren’t they not stoned to death?
Such utter stupidity that justifies barbarism in a human mind is intolerable.
gravenimage says
Muslims don’t have to be married to their rape victims. As long as the victims are Infidels and taken in Jihad, this is perfectly “chaste” as far as Muslims are concerned. Their victims can even be married; their marriages are considered annulled when they are captured by Muslims.
Many people think that Muslims are “modest” and sexually “conservative”–but this is *anything* but the case.
James says
The contrast with the behaviour of Christ (St John 7.53-8.11) is telling. And more evidence that Mo was not a true prophet.
Paul N Silas says
Excellent point.
gravenimage says
Very true, James–the “Prophet” Muhammed was a pedophile, a slaver, a caravan raider, a rapist, a warlord, and a mass-murderer; Jesus–even leaving aside his being the Savior–was a healer and a peacemaker.
Compare and contrast…
no_one says
Jesus said something else about the stoning. As far as I am concerned, islam is a pre-Christian pagan cult. Arabs were just retarded.
gravenimage says
And, notably, Jews no longer stoned people to death in Muhammed’s time, either.
In fact, the vile “Prophet” and his followers condemn Jews for *not* stoning people to death, and reinstate the practice themselves.
Terry says
Graven–not only did the ancient Jews not stone people, they RARELY USED THE DEATH PENALTY.
There is a ” story” ( I forgot the proper term) (vignette?) about the Sanhedrin (The Jewish Supreme Court, when the Jews had Their Temple).
A man committed a very serious and grievous offense. A lower court sentenced the man to death- THE FIRST DEATH SENTENCE IN 70 YEARS. One of the “justices” of The Sanhedrin asked, ” why is this court so vindictive? so lacking in mercy?
The sentence was reduced- but still severe.
ellie mae says
not a pre Christian cult. Islam only dates to early 7th c AD
gravenimage says
I think no_one meant this in the moral sense.
gravenimage says
Mali: Unmarried couple stoned to death for violating Islamic law
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These *poor people*. It seems that “Islamists” having been driven out of Mali is overly optimistic.
Of course, this barbarism is orthodox Islam.
The *only* example of tenderness I have found in all the Islamic texts I have read–the Qur’an, the Sira, and hundreds of Hadith–is this one:
Sahih Bukhari Volume 8, Book 82, Number 809:
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
A Jew and a Jewess were brought to Allah’s Apostle on a charge of committing an illegal sexual intercourse. The Prophet asked them. “What is the legal punishment (for this sin) in your Book (Torah)?” They replied, “Our priests have innovated the punishment of blackening the faces with charcoal and Tajbiya.” ‘Abdullah bin Salam said, “O Allah’s Apostle, tell them to bring the Torah.” The Torah was brought, and then one of the Jews put his hand over the Divine Verse of the Rajam (stoning to death) and started reading what preceded and what followed it. On that, Ibn Salam said to the Jew, “Lift up your hand.” Behold! The Divine Verse of the Rajam was under his hand. So Allah’s Apostle ordered that the two (sinners) be stoned to death, and so they were stoned. Ibn ‘Umar added: So both of them were stoned at the Balat and and I saw the man bending over the woman so as to protect her from the stones.
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“I saw the man bending over the woman so as to protect her from the stones”.
This act of tenderness, of course, is not from a Muslim, but from a *victim* of Muslim savagery.
God, I hate Islam.
Paul N Silas says
God hates Islam! His wrath is sure to come someday
Ai Marvin says
Remember, orthodox means right and there is nothing right about Islam.
gravenimage says
Ai, all “orthodox” means is “(of a person or their views, especially religious or political ones, or other beliefs or practices) conforming to what is generally or traditionally accepted as right or true; established and approved”.
If someone is closely adhering to something good, then this is indeed right–if they are closely adhering to something evil–as with Islam–then it is anything but.
Terry says
I had read this earlier, and, as now- I find that this is unfathomable, from someone living in a civilized country (US) in the 21st century.
And it boggles my mind that people want to bring more of this here.
gravenimage says
Yes, Terry–and this is *hardly* the only case. Muslims have also stoned people to death in Pakistan, in Afghanistan, Iraq, and in Iran. And stoning is on the books in Afghanistan, Iran, Muslim-majority parts of Nigeria, Pakistan, Sudan, the United Arab Emirates, and even in “moderate” Indonesia.
“Iran’s human rights chief: We are proud of stoning”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/irans-human-rights-chief-we-are-proud-of-stoning
Matthieu Baudin says
Cohabiting out of wedlock was an act of defiance amongst the new left generation of the ’70’s; a small part that they could play in bring down prevailing social institutions as part of a cultural revolution. Today defacto or common law marriage is so widespread that it rarely raises an eyebrow. Along the Jihad Front however, in this case North Africa, the pressure for conformity regarding marriage rites is total, and people like this unfortunate couple pay for their lives for standing outside the norm. Yet the shrill voices of contemporary left opinion leaders speak not a word about these happenings, places such as Mali are totally off their radar; why? – because these media tarts are so transfixed by their own small lives and immediate social circles, by the little pains that they suffer, that they’re oblivious to the outright persecution being dealt to non conformists in these lands by Islamic militants. Surely the cultural arrogance of the contemporary left has surpassed the worst offenders of the colonial period.
pnr says
back on this site as I am dedicated to extirpating all slavery in course of one life.
maybe they don’t like being black?
Izlam aligned with so-called ‘white’ supremacists – true White is always Dharmic i.e. ethical.
Sanskritize, Saffronise, Civilize, Self-Realize: Caste (derived from “chaste’ is good: so is forgiveness…)
We need teachers/preachers/saint-soldiers/even propagandists/Gurus/charismatic leaders and all non-Moslem as well as complete Dharmic unity (Five or six dharmic paths – Vedic-‘hindu’/Parsi/Jain/Sikh/Buddhistique/ISKCON) will extirpate all forms of terrorism off Earth once and for all. Science cannot progress without eternal peace. Omshantiom everyone. Slavery is a hideous institution.
Every child must be born of Garbhadana Sanskar – religion is not about social justice – religion is about Bhagti (Bhakti) – Thanks Prabhupada.
Merci beaucoup Dr. Robert Spencer.