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New York Times on Manchester jihad mass murderer: “No one yet knows what motivated him to commit such a horrific deed”

May 24, 2017 1:08 pm By Robert Spencer

If Salman Abedi had been a “right-wing extremist,” the Times, and the world, would know right now. But when the killer is a devout Muslim who knows the Qur’an by heart, was known to British authorities as a terror threat, and had been in touch with a recruiter for the Islamic State (ISIS), the New York Times is baffled.

“When Terrorists Target Children,” New York Times Editorial Board, May 23, 2017:

Every victim of terrorism is innocent, and every one is to be mourned. But the bombing in Manchester, England, on Monday night that killed teenage or even younger fans of the pop star Ariana Grande, many accompanied by their parents and some clutching the pink balloons Ms. Grande had sent sweetly raining down at the end of her concert, is particularly wrenching.

By Tuesday, 22 people had died, and 59 others had been hospitalized, some with life-threatening injuries. The dead included 8-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, who had come with her mother and older sister, and 18-year-old Georgina Bethany Callander, who had posted an image of her brand new driver’s license on Instagram.

The Islamic State said one of its “soldiers” had carried out the bombing, which took the life of the man British police officials believe was behind it, Salman Abedi, a 22-year-old whose parents emigrated from Libya. It is still unclear whether Mr. Abedi acted alone or as part of a network. No one yet knows what motivated him to commit such a horrific deed. It is also unclear whether the Islamic State’s claim is legitimate. Only further investigation can answer these questions….

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  1. Jayke says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:14 pm

    The New York SLIMES is self-deluded.

    • mortimer says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:30 pm

      HINT FOR THE CLUELESS TIMES CONCERNING ABEDI’S MOTIVE:

      Salman Abedi memorized the the Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008

    • john spielman says

      May 24, 2017 at 2:33 pm

      i wonder how many dead it will take for the New York slimes to wake up? – maybe never maybe the are all muslims in the editorial department and want all gays dead and all women clitorectomied and kept cloiterd in the home for breeding purposes only, and the black flag of islam to fly over the city

      • Sam says

        May 24, 2017 at 2:44 pm

        They can not admit it is Islam. If they do their whole world view would become a farce. In their mind they will insist that all religions and cultures are the same and the root cause of all problems of the world comes from America and western capitalist greed. They will not accept any other way even if their Jihadi friends cut their throats. In short, liberals are sick bastards.

        • SweetOlBob says

          May 26, 2017 at 9:09 pm

          Sam:
          Sick bastards is right !
          While the moronic,afraid-to-offend, Mucking Fuslim coddling, Manure Stream Media tries to cover for the uncivilized ragheads by sobbing “Oh ! Whatever could be the cause of this tragedy ?”

          It couldn’t be the filthy book, The Queeran, could it ? Just because it COMMANDS the 7th century, bloody, backward, barbaric, inbred, non assimilating, idiots to kill or enslave any who do not bang their heads and wave their butts ?
          That couldn’t have anything to do with all the filthy muslim atrocities, could it ?
          Naaaaaawww ! That can’t have anything to do with it, right ?

      • Ivan Rittenberg says

        May 24, 2017 at 4:58 pm

        Only if it their wives and family will it break through their delusions and have any meaning. After all they believe their the only people with brain and knowledge.

    • WVinMN says

      May 24, 2017 at 4:32 pm

      No, they’re in full control of their faculties. They’re just evil.

      • Paul says

        May 24, 2017 at 7:57 pm

        Well put. They’re not deluded, they’re just trying to delude us.
        Very pathetic attempt, but still trying nonetheless. If we are to come
        through this we have to understand that it’s a war on two fronts –
        the deception of islam and the deception of the left. I’ve long since
        made no distinction between them at all, because none exist.

      • occupant9 says

        May 25, 2017 at 10:33 pm

        I want to disagree with you but that would mean disregarding the Progressive Left’s intentional malice.

    • The vilest of Creatures says

      May 24, 2017 at 8:51 pm

      Another Frank Drebin moment from the New York Times. “Please disperse, Nothing to see here!”

    • Don Foss says

      May 25, 2017 at 1:45 pm

      More accurately, “No one [in the NYT offices] knows what motivated this attack.” The same can be said for those at CNN, The Guardian, WaPo, NBC, ABC, CBS and the rest of those who do the thinking for their sheepish readers and listeners.

    • Gea says

      May 26, 2017 at 3:41 pm

      The reporters are brain washed into politically correct cultural relativism by the anti-American neo-Marist US academia… nobody likes to be accused of being “islamphobe”…or bigot. Islam STINKS and does not belong to US or any country that respects liberty, justice and human rights of all individuals.

      Time to sue mosques for their hate speech against humanity! Run them out of business just as KKK was run out of business.

  2. neversink says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    And the BBC still says “so-called Islamic State.” Well, it is not so-called. That is there name. Why are they pretending?
    Does the BBC say so-called Al Qaeda?
    Do they say so-called USA?
    Do they say so-called Al Qaeda?
    Did they ever say so-called Irish Republican Army?
    Did they ever say so-called Palestinian Liberation Organization when in fact most Palestinians were either Jordanian and Egyptian?

    What a bunch of suicidal fools the BBC are. And the Brits think the BBC is balanced and fair and objective. What a joke???

    • neversink says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:37 pm

      That is their name… sorry for the typo

    • mark says

      May 24, 2017 at 3:28 pm

      So called media……

    • Ace-of-Clubs says

      May 24, 2017 at 5:41 pm

      There’s a great website called Biasedbbc.co.uk where numerous people rage against the lefty liberal bias in the BBC. I got so sick of the BBC left wing bias and the fact that they make you pay for a TV licence that I gave up TV altogether. The BBC are more concerned about “Islamaphobia” than they are about the victims of the the latest atrocity committed by a Muslim in the name of Islam. Probably two generations of Brits have been brainwashed into thinking that multiculturalism is wonderful and enriching, such is the liberal bias in education and the BBC. Thank heavens we have websites such as Robert Spencer’s to tell us the real truth about Islam and what a pathetic reflection on Britain that Robert is not allowed to enter this country…and yet rabid Muslim extremists are allowed to preach and demonstrate wherever and whenever they want. Winston Churchill understood the evil of Islam decades ago, if only we had a strong leader like him now. My view on the BBC: it is positively Stalinist in the way it spreads its pro-multiculturalism, anti western agenda. A truly sick organisation, it also convered up the Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal and did little or nothing to report on the UK-wide scandal of sexual abuse, rape and grooming of vulnerable white girls by Muslim men in cities such as Rotherham, Rochdale, Luton, Derby, Oxford etc. BBC is rotten to the core.

  3. Norger says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    OH PUHLEEZ NYT !!! Wake up and smell the coffee (or more accurately the jihad) just for once. Would you be questioning the motive for a single nanosecond if the perpetrator were a “white supremacist?”

  4. TL says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:28 pm

    The title is mistaken. It should read, “When Muslims Target Children”. Also erroneous is the very first claim. How could it be true that “Every victim of terrorism is innocent” when many of the victims of Muslim aggression are other Muslims—who approve of the very same motives as their attackers?

    The EB’s next claim, too, is troubling. More evidence that only fools trust the NYT.

  5. mortimer says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    The NYT editors would not write a comment about sports if they had not a wealth of sports information. They would not write about the Democratic Party, unless they had a wealth of information about Democratic policies and politicians. They would not write about the Grand Canyon if they had not a wealth of accurate information. But without reading ANY of the Islamic source texts and not even knowing the NAMES of those foundational texts, NYT PREPOSTEROUSLY claims expertise on the subject of Islam.

    They are SPONTANEOUS experts about Islam without actually studying one thing about Islam. Lazy? Arrogant? Or what? The jihad-terrorists laugh it them because NYT provides them with cover.

    • Jaladhi says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:57 pm

      I think that the NYTimes and their ilk are liars, deceitful, hypocrites and traitors! No doubt about it!

    • Bill W. says

      May 24, 2017 at 2:54 pm

      They know the are scared to print the true.

  6. miriamrove says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    No one know yet..

    What a bunch of shameless bastards they are. M.

    • Lioness says

      May 25, 2017 at 6:32 pm

      Indeed. They know they are liers but they rather pander to islam than admit the truth.

  7. Diane Harvey says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:40 pm

    “No one yet knows what motivated him to commit such a horrific deed.”

    We know. We all know. Including those at the NYT. They refuse to state it publicly because they then fall clearly on the non-Muslim side of things, meaning, according to Muslim theology, they too are Crusaders, they are no longer innocent.

    Just like the abortionist and his/her helpers, they KNOW they are killing a child. They know.

    • Shmooviyet says

      May 24, 2017 at 1:57 pm

      Perfectly stated.

  8. Jaladhi says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    To read NYTimes has become so disgusting that it is beyond imagination. These people could be so stupid, liars, hypocrites is just baffling. They want to make sure the West goes down the drain with their help to Muslims!

  9. Shmooviyet says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:55 pm

    No one at NYT is bold or honest enough to tell it true. “No one knows”?
    Just as heartwrenching as the little girl on the street in Nice, for one of a thousand examples.

    The fishwrap of record– once again telling their shameful tales hoping readers will buy them.

    • Bill W. says

      May 24, 2017 at 3:00 pm

      In the 1930,s they wrote glowing articles about Stalin that he was bring his country forward as he was killing millions by starvation in south Russia because the farmers down there would not had over most of there crops so he took all of there crops. They have always push and printed their slant on news F* them!

  10. Westman says

    May 24, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    The Brits, unlike the NYT, know the motives of the jihadists and are fed up with it.

    There is something very different about the Brits reaction to this particular carnage as there is a palpable political chasm growing between typical Brits and their elitist government. T. May’s calling in the military is a clear indication that the “rulers” have felt it and realize their political future is in jepardy if they don’t act in a visible manner. Of course, the military is there to both protect public facilities and stop any organized demonstrations against Islam. It will fail to stop the Islamic violence for the same reasons that the West cannot regulate even defeated Islamic countries. The most successful rehabilitation was Turkey in the 1920s. And what is now happening in Turkey?

  11. More Ham Ed says

    May 24, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    The New York Slimes.

  12. CogitoErgoSum says

    May 24, 2017 at 2:49 pm

    I’m absolutely certain I know what ideology motivated this man to commit his act of suicide/homicide. The part that left me wondering though was why did he pick a concert that was being attended by so many teen (or younger) girls? Since I had never heard any songs by Ariana Grand I decided to look up a few tunes by her on YouTube. If you care to take a listen, here is a link to one of them. WARNING: the lyrics may be something of a shock.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv7o3AcG708

    Now, I’m not defending or excusing the atrocity committed by this jihadi in Manchester ….. but ……… at least I do now understand a little bit better than before why he chose an Ariana Grande concert.

    As I say … in no way do I defend the actions of this jihadi …….. but ……….. if this music in any way represents what I am defending, then God have mercy on my soul.

    • Henner720 says

      May 25, 2017 at 8:23 pm

      The reason. Think. You are strategist. You want to hurt as manny islam followers most as possible. You then target birthable subjects , at the most highcost age 16 17 , setting them most possibly backward population wise, in that these years reproduktionwise has been cost benefit lost.Its a logic choise the enemy is not stupid.they are coldharted strategists. The left is romantizising onslaught on its own population.playing dumb, soon there no more riom for that.

  13. S Kevin Wojtaszek says

    May 24, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    This is also from the NYTimes:

    Why Saudi Women Are Literally Living ‘The Handmaid’s Tale’

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/24/opinion/why-saudi-women-are-literally-living-the-handmaids-tale.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region&region=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

  14. JawsV says

    May 24, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    The NYT Editorial Board is composed of leftist morons.

  15. Ex Muslim Against Islam says

    May 24, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    Islam has nothing to do with Islam!

  16. RationalVoice says

    May 24, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    All this visible security presence is just to “reassure” the rightly concerned public. The police pick up the pieces after the event but that is no good to us. This guy was on the security radar and returned from Libya only a few days ago. Now Libya is hardly the number 1 holiday destination for British citizens and is quite hard to get into unless you have contacts there. Any body going there for any reason should be required to report to the authorities. I remember being told to inform my employer if I was going to the Soviet Union on holiday during the Cold War as the company I worked for was the Defense industry. Clearly they didn’t monitor this guy at all.
    France and Britain foolishly assisted in the overthrow of Gaddafy who was keeping Al Quaeda and other mad extremists down and he said this on camera before he died. This guys parents were given refugee status so they must have had sympathy with Al Quaeda and passed it on to their son
    I heard a report on TV that the parents had said their son had nothing to do with the suicide and mass murder of children. What ?? What remains of his body and ID were on him and the police have it !
    We are now going to have generations of mass murder just like the Middle East because governments throughout Europe have this crazy delusion that the teachings of the Qur’an and those who believe in them can fit into western democracy.This is a terrible mistake of historical proportions and I and many others fear for the future

  17. Ali Bey says

    May 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    BBC…who on news about Fidel Castro named him Doctor Castro…

  18. Gerald Mucci says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    “…no one yet knows…” I never knew editors and reporters could be so out of touch, clueless, and stupid.

  19. Gerald Mucci says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    The Times must have Muslims as editorial staff writers who come up with this kind of cover Islam’s azz BS.

  20. William says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    It is amazing that the liberal minds can only ask questions rather than study issues. They need to recognize that everything will not fall into the ” 1 + 2 does not equal 3 more or less; it equals 3.” Cannot see the beast because they are always making excuses by over analysis ..

  21. Michael Blair says

    May 24, 2017 at 4:36 pm

    But islam is the “religion of peace”… BS

  22. Rick says

    May 24, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    The New York Times knows what they’re doing and that makes them just as evil as the terrorist…!!!!

  23. Jay says

    May 24, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    I’m almost used to this. I guess I won’t quite be completely used to it until all Moslems are wiped off the globe.

  24. Bee Alert says

    May 24, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    RE: NYT
    1. More evidence you can’t fix stupid
    2. Ask Charley Hebdo, & Theo Van Gogh what happens when the truth is actually printed

  25. Raja says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    What are they(NYT) claiming about motive of the Jihadist? They seem to be in a fool’s paradise to have discovered (claiming to discover) all the motives of thousands of jihad attacks. Don’t they know that all good and evil deeds cannot be seen from the prism of motives. In fact science just cannot discern that.

    It is important to note that all motive seeking talk or statements are an invitation to road blocks or and dead end.

    Leftism has brought the world to dishonesty, sham and con-artistry.

    The world indeed is in a sorry state of affairs.

  26. Peter says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:14 pm

    I want to ask NYT editor if tomorrow God forbid if his wife or daughter is raped and murdered by an islamist how would he react.I want an honest answer.

  27. somehistory says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    ” No one yet knows”

    Nope, it isn’t “Noone Yet” that knows.

    It’s Mr. Robert Spencer, Ms. Pamela Geller, Mr. Raymond Ibrahim, Ms. Nonie Darwish, and the countless readers who have learned the motives of these murderous scummy dross from reading the books and articles written by the men and women who know.

  28. Jack Holan says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    We now know a few facts about the Editorial Board at the @NYTimes.
    The are stupid or believe we our Mental capacities are unable to retain facts and form links
    They are arrogant any narcissist to the level that forget facts morality reality all that matters to them is the Alt-World they are they are trying to create and impose upon the rest of the World since they are 100% certain their self perceived intelligence means they must be correct and everyone else wrong.
    Lastl if I were to just guess they are graduates of a California U, Columbia U, Georgetown. Northwestern, or UOf Mo. Columbia. They may even teach Journalistic Privilidge arrogance hearsay 1-source and no cross check as accepted Norms these days. I can now put to rest any reservations that I had about the New York Times Editorial Page. It’s criterion for excellence may at this point be less than The Sun or The Mirror. I wonder if they still carry the nude woman on page 3

  29. Voytek Gagalka says

    May 24, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    The biggest Fake News Media lie: “No one yet knows…”

    It would perhaps not be a lie but expression of stupidity, cowardliness, and willful ignorance but to say that NO ONE KNOWS is a clear lie. They don’t wish to acknowledge as yet of anybody WHO KNOWS, but they should never claim that NO ONE KNOWS because they prefer to remain ignorant. It would be the same if unfortunate blind person would claim that NO ONE CAN SEE only because he can’t.

    And “…what motivated him to commit such a horrific deed”? Simply: Taking Qur’an seriously up to its last letter and ultimate meaning. Following Mohammed and his sharia.

    • Henner720 says

      May 25, 2017 at 8:57 am

      Yeah, and since becoming so deeply believing is beyond the most of us, its anybodys guess. Its anybodys guess how it is being a strong believer, as we havent been there and never will.my son said spontaniously about machester bomber ” he is insane” , i think is right. Believing and insanity is strongly connected.

  30. Mak says

    May 24, 2017 at 8:47 pm

    What a puzzler, Watson! Can Scotland Yard crack the case? It’s such a mystery it may never be solved…

  31. Joe says

    May 24, 2017 at 11:08 pm

    New York Times on Manchester jihad mass murderer: “No one yet knows what motivated him to commit such a horrific deed”

    Well, I know. That’s why it doesn’t make sense to buy this crappy newpaper. Just the fish wrapped in it would be useful, but then I do not need the fish be wrapped in a piece of crappy paper.

  32. Monty says

    May 25, 2017 at 1:40 am

    NYT, I did not know that it was possible to be so intelligent and yet so stupid at the same time. Islam motivated this crime, same as every attack by a Muslim since AD700. Surely the bible was talking about people like NYT, “Professing to be wise, they proved themselves to be fools”. I have a better use for the NYT. At the bottom of the birdcage. I wonder, was the NYT the inspiration for the movie title “Pulp Fiction”?

  33. Owen Morgan says

    May 25, 2017 at 3:54 am

    NYT: “It is also unclear whether the Islamic State’s claim is legitimate.”

    Get this, NYT: nothing the islamic state ever does is “legitimate”. Is the NYT now suggesting that “He wasn’t only obeying orders,” will be a sufficient defence for the terrorist kingpins, if they are ever brought to justice? If a man with demonstrable terrorist links, who is fed by terrorist propaganda, commits an act of terrorism, we don’t actually need a paper trail to make the connection.

    Even with such a paper trail, I don’t suppose the NYT could begin to overcome its suicidal, PC, see-no-evil bias.

  34. FYI says

    May 25, 2017 at 5:29 am

    Yes,{sarc on/}it’s a terrible mystery alright and very difficult to figure out where that islamic tendency comes from:that tendency to go on the rampage killing unbelieving infidels wherever they are found.

    We may never know.The police and the politicans are completely mystified.
    Unless..maybe if…we read the koran.

    “Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”
    koran 2:191

    “When opportunity arises kill the infidels wherever you find them”
    koran 9:5

    {sarc still on/}..could there be a connection between what allah commands in his koran and what his followers choose to do in his name?

    YES of course.
    No,certainly not(the response of lefties,the media,the police, the politicians and of course muslims)

    What are the possibilities here?
    1This has NOTHING to do with islam and the teachings of allah/muhammed.
    2This has SOMETHING to do with islam and the teachings of allah/muhammed.
    3This has EVERYTHING to do with islam and the teachings of allah/muhammed.

    Take your pick but it most certainly cannot be the case that it has NOTHING to do with islam:that is self-evident.Those who choose this view have to equivocate and say things like ..the bomber was mentally ill,this has nothing to do with mainstream islam,it’s only a handful of extremists etc

    And what better opportunity to kill these infidels than at a music concert?
    Or is that just being “islamophobic”…and….”racist”( despite the fact that islam isn’t a race).

    When a crime is committed detectives look for Motive,Opportunity and Method.

    Motivation:straight from the teachings of allah in the koran

    Opportunity:Anywhere infidels gather.And that means any non-muslim can be a target anywhere:churches,concert halls,sports arenas..

    Method:suicide bombing in crowded areas to maximize the number of infidels murdered in the name of islam for the benefit of allah.

  35. Buford says

    May 25, 2017 at 8:40 am

    NY Times Sucks it does not take a Mental Giant to figure out this Creep’s reason for what he did it is called the Quran only an individual who is Weak Minded & Mentally Brainwashed & Demonic could believe the Garbage in the Quran. This is why these Cretins need to be restricted to Islamic Countries.

  36. Henner720 says

    May 25, 2017 at 8:41 am

    They are dependant on arab money somehow. The rich islam-followers lobbying NYT flush them with arguments like: have you grown up poor, have you seen your family bombed by the amaricans. All this is the americans fault.
    Then you argue: ” but that is poorly communicated then”
    Rich arab lobby: yeah i hate these arab people who say its about islam !!???.
    NYT are baffled, gagging newscasters , orders from editord in cheifs and board chairmen, who thinking shareholders.the system watertight. Islam is a perfected conning system that takes more than left hand work to overcome.its decieving threads are deep into
    Eg. NYT.

  37. John A. Marre says

    May 25, 2017 at 8:45 am

    That’s what they want us to think. However, we know the truth (they do too) and will not be deceived. The NYT actually wants more Muslims to attack and kill Christians and Jews.

    • Henner720 says

      May 25, 2017 at 9:33 am

      Maybe out of selfish reasons like , more sales to muslim segments,more money for shareholders.otherwise its hard to belueve they can survive be so DUUHHH.

  38. Screeminmeeme says

    May 25, 2017 at 9:24 am

    The fallacy that a nexus to ISIS must be proven before anyone can be called an (Islamic) ‘terrorist is perpetuated daily by most of the MSM as well as many national leaders.

    Really, all it takes to become a terrorizing jihadist is to have access to a Quran, believe what it says, and possess the will to obey its commands to maim, rape, terrorize and kill infidels. Period.

    Unbelievably two nights ago on CNN with Anderson Cooper, Richard Clarke, counter terrorism adviser to Presidents Reagan, Clinton, and both Bushes, said that we need to determine the thing that motivates young guys to become terrorists……that maybe they need jobs!!

  39. RaymondofCanada says

    May 25, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    The left not only has turned wrong into right, but also the simple into complex. It is above even their “high” thinking that the answers are staring them in the face.

  40. Hugh Higgins says

    May 28, 2017 at 1:28 am

    Yes, I saw that inane comment in the Times and could not believe it. Utterly stupendously incredible.

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