Again, campus Left-fascists show they detest free speech. My latest in PJ Media:
Last Monday, I appeared at the University of Buffalo at the invitation of the courageous students of Young Americans for Freedom. They have to put up with campus Left-fascist thuggery on a daily basis, while I was able to leave Buffalo the morning after the event.
I say I “appeared,” because to say “I spoke” would be exaggerating a bit. Rather, I spoke a few sentences and made a couple of points in between being screamed at by Leftist and Islamic supremacist fascists who think they’re opposing fascism.
The Spectrum, the student newspaper of the University at Buffalo, reported:
Robert Spencer couldn’t speak for more than 30 seconds without students shouting and cursing at him.
Spencer planned to speak to students about “the dangers of jihad in today’s world” but constant heckling from the crowd made it near impossible for him to complete a full sentence.
Indeed. The raucous student mob, of course, believes it represents the side of all that is good and righteous. These students have been hoodwinked into thinking that “Islamophobes,” rather than jihad terrorists, are killing people around the world.
For example, one man held a sign that read “Queers Against Islamophobia.” The crowd booed lustily when I attempted to read from Islamic authorities about Islam’s death penalty for homosexuality. Even to read from Islamic sources is hate, apparently, at the University at Buffalo — unless, of course, one endorses such penalties rather than oppose them.
By shutting down any discussion of the motivating ideology of the jihad threat and consigning it all to the realm of “hatred” and “bigotry,” the student mob at the University of Buffalo enables that threat to grow. One day, the Leftists who screamed, heckled, and booed as I tried to speak may very well experience the consequences of their actions, carried out by those with whom they thought they stood in solidarity.
The Spectrum article did capture one thing I managed to say:
The attempt to silence someone who has a differing viewpoint was a “quintessentially fascist act, and you are manifesting it in a wonderful way tonight,” said Spencer.
There was also this:
Spencer frequently discusses terrorism by Muslims as being religiously motivated, an argument that has put him in the cross-hairs of American Muslims who say his interpretation of Islam is dangerously inaccurate and perverts their faith.
Those American Muslims have a big problem on their hands, because in reality, I offer no interpretation of Islam at all. I only report on how Muslims interpret Islam, which all too often involves justifications of and exhortations to violence. They are anxious to silence me because they don’t want Americans to know how jihadis use the texts and teachings of Islam to justify hatred, violence, and supremacism.
An extraordinary aspect of this ugly incident’s aftermath: even though I hardly got a word in, University of Buffalo officials and the campus Muslim Students’ Association chapter were apparently so shaken by my appearance that they have featured not one, but two events in response. The events feature highly disingenuous Islamic spokesmen, apparently an effort to make sure that campus Left-lemmings stay on message: Islam is a religion of peace that has nothing to do with terrorism, despite the ever-growing evidence to the contrary.
Hassan Shibly of the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) slandered me repeatedly. He said:
When I hear Spencer say that Islam should be illegal, I hear him saying my religion should be outlawed … and what I hear him saying is that he will chip away at the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
What a noble act by Shibly, guarding the republic against the forces of hatred and division.
But there’s just one problem with his statement: Shibly is outright lying. I simply have never said that Islam should be illegal.
The other speaker the University of Buffalo featured, Ahmadi spokesman Qasim Rashid, was no more honest than Shibly. (I have many times in the past exposed the dishonesty of Rashid’s presentations on Islam.) At Buffalo, he made a number of risible claims, including that in Islam, women are equal to men. And he slandered me as cheerfully as Shibly did:
The speaker last night was promoting ISIS ideology on campus. He was essentially their spokesperson. That’s how dangerous this rhetoric is.
The thinking is extremely tortured here. Because I point out that the Islamic State (ISIS) uses the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and make recruits among peaceful Muslims, Rashid says I am promoting and supporting ISIS. This is tantamount to saying that Winston Churchill was pro-Nazi for pointing out that Hitler was motivated by Nazism.
No one at the University at Buffalo called out Rashid for his vicious slander or twisted logic, because what Rashid said conformed to Leftist beliefs. American universities today do not reward speaking the truth and defending it rationally. They only reward parroting the agenda of the hard-Left….
Read the rest here.
mortimer says
The BLACK FASCIST HOOLIGANS chant and holler because they have NO ARGUMENT. Not even their BEST debater could last five minutes with Robert Spencer in a structured debate.
President Trump and his team should do more to protect freedom of speech. College thugs have a right to peaceful, lawful assembly. However, I don’t believe there is a right for hooligans to entirely disrupt a lawful meeting. This is unacceptable terrorism.
Let them make their protest peacefully and orderly and then let the scheduled speaker put forth his arguments. Let the Leftards respond reasonably to the speaker and try to defeat his ARGUMENTS. Ad hominem slanders are NOT arguments.
The Leftards, sadly, have NO INTELLECTUAL ARGUMENT. They have slogans and yelling. Yelling louder is NOT an intellectual argument, but just another distraction from the fact that they HAVE NO ARGUMENT.
TL says
Why do you believe that “College thugs have a right to peaceful, lawful assembly”? Is it good for leftist totalitarians to propagandize the public while polishing their reputations with feigned civility?
You conservatives are such morons and fools.
mortimer says
No, TL, that’s called the freedom of assembly and millions of brave sailors, soldiers and airmen died to secure that right.
You are an extremely great fool and an UNGRATEFUL fool. Go away.
mortimer says
Moreover, TL, you have NO argument.
Wellington says
I’m with you completely, mortimer. TL would shut down freedom in order to save it, which makes no sense. I support the right of the KKK to exist and to speak publicly about their “ideas” even though it is a racist and hateful organization. Guess TL would want to ban the KKK too (at least on college campuses if not everywhere). Anarchists also. Neo-Nazis. Aryan Nation members. Nihilists. Marxists. Et al. Pretty soon, should TL thoroughly have his way the only ones who would be able to peacefully assemble would be those who meet TL’s approbation. This is no way to guard and sustain freedom.
gravenimage says
Absolutely, Mortimer and Wellington.
Moreover, TL has proven himself to be a Fascist-sympathizer in the past–in the very literal sense–and shutting down freedom of speech is part of that. I’m not at all sure that safeguarding freedom is one of his goals to begin with.
Note that Robert Spencer is not trying to shut his opponents up–he is just trying to make himself heard.
old white guy says
their actions show me that there are far more stupid people in university than there should be.
overman says
Precisely, and they’re getting stupider every year.
ln the UK exams have become much easier and it doesn’t take much to get into a University these days. lf you’ve got money you can buy a scholarship.
With the lnternet l’m not sure we even need them.
Norger says
“Not even their BEST debater could last five minutes with Robert Spencer in a structured debate.” Exactly.
And I think THAT is why such a concerted effort has been made to make sure that Spencer is functionally silenced by labeling him a “hate monger,” “racist,” “fascist,” “bigot,” and “Islamophobe.” Anyone who falls into any of those categories is beneath contempt; one need not even listen to such persons.
It is remarkable that most of what in fact Spencer does is offer Islamic scripture, and Islamic scholarly interpretations thereof. If Spencer’s view is incorrect, why not engage with him, and put the truth out there for all to see? The problem is that much of what Spencer says is entirely accurate. Therefore, he must be silenced. It really is truth as the new “hate speech.”
Marcos Saturo says
Mortimer, youhave hit it square on the nose. Nice shot!
JayT says
At Spencer’s next campus lecture, I would love to have him ask the question to the audience that if CAIR is certain Islam is a peaceful religion, which only seeks to co-exist with the laws of this land (U.S. Constitution), then why has CAIR consistently shown up to seek legal injunctions against those states wishing to pass laws forbidding Sharia from being used in our legal system?
Why CAIR do you need to keep the door open to Sharia, if you mean what you say about abiding by the laws of this land?
How can putting it in the letter of the law that only the laws of this land will be used to maintain order be so at odds with CAIR, where they must mount a legal shutdown attempt each time a state looks to pass such a bill?
CAIR (Coercing to receive Appeasement or Intimidation and Repression will result) – saying one thing and doing another.
pennant8 says
CAIR likes to present itself as an all American organization, yet its very name [Council on American Islamic relations] suggests a separation between America and Islam. It sounds good when you say it, but if you think it through it’s not a particularly smart choice for an acronym.
TL says
No surprise. Leftists have bumper sticker minds.
Next time have the YAF make their own such signs (i.e. Reject Islamophobia!). Same signs, same inane messages. The leftists and Muslims will snarl at them for expressing the exact same things as the snarling barbarians. Likewise, you will read the Muslims’ own messages straight from their own sources, and the barbarians will snarl at you for doing so. The barbarians, having no good sense of humor, will snarl, roll their eyes, and wag their heads all the more when they recognize the irony.
Westman says
It appears that too many of our universities have a relationship with thoughtful education that mirrors the relationship of punk rock to the finest strains of classical music.
The behavioral standards of “higher” education have been trampled in the process of turning education into an over-priced commodity – a commodity that touts itself as the gate to financial success while ignoring any moral standards of conduct. Berkeley is a poster child for the decline of civility and reasoned thought.
When students hold up signs, shout down speakers, or destroy property, they become thieves of other people’s lives; shouting, with the effect of multiple ringing cell phones in a movie theater, that they and their ideas are so important that no others should be discussed. It is extreme selfishness and narcissism; an attempt to assume importance without any validating accomplishment.
One can be certain that the science and engineering students are not part of these uncivil disruptions – in their world avoiding logic and reasoned thought means failure. Mother Nature does not concern herself with any notions of turning the incompatibility of various assumed moral and cultural equivalencies into some forced compliance.
The Young Americans For Freedom, at Buffalo University, were literally robbed of both money, time, and the opportunity to hear their speaker by uncivil thugs – extended adolescents – who don’t belong in a true university setting.
The universities are becoming a commodity in which the unreasonable customer is always right and the “students” determine much of the cirriculum. Thankfully, the two-thirds of the population who won’t get a college education are still a repository of common sense.
John A. Marre says
So, you go in front of a group of students to warn them about the huge mass of individuals who hate them, and want to kill them brutally, and the students prevent you from talking.
The “queers” among them would be thrown from tall buildings, or hanged, by Muslims.
They accuse you of unreasonable hatred on account of your religion, and the Muslims’. They imply that you are lying, because you hate others of a different religion.
I hope that this group of individuals gets to be the first to experience first hand what Spencer is warning them about.
gravenimage says
All true, John.
overman says
‘For example, one man held a sign that read “Queers Against Islamophobia.”’
Yeah, l couldn’t believe some idiot was holding that up.
Not many white faces there. Do muslims walk in off the street at these lectures – pretending to be students?
mortimer says
I would like to see someone carrying a sign that reads ‘QUEERS AGAINST BEING THROWN OFF THE ROOF’.
It appears that LEFTIST LGTBQs are IN FAVOR of being thrown off the roof! They are MASOCHISTS and the JIHADISTS are SADISTS.
What a compatible marriage! The Leftards REVEAL themselves as MASOCHISTS.
Westman says
Yes, indeed, gay supporters of Islam are like an empath approaching an angry rabid dog while thinking, ” I can save him and he will love me.”
mortimer says
Islam is SYSTEMIC NARCISSISM and PSYCHOPATHY and the Libtards are the empaths who say, ‘WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THEM!’
Libtards are unable to answer this question: “WHAT IS IT THAT A SUPREMACIST WANTS?”
gravenimage says
Mortimer, I don’t think gay people want to be thrown off roofs. Instead, many are in denial that Islam demands they be thrown off roofs.
It is less frightening for them to think they are opposing “Islamophobes” than to acknowledge what Islam really is.
And they are not the only ones.
mortimer says
CENSORSHIP is part of FASCISM
Among the “Fourteen Defining Characteristics Of Fascism” by Dr. Lawrence Britt we find . “6.Controlled Mass Media – Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.”
pennant8 says
Muslims are trapped by their scripture and they know it. This is why they have to try and shut down all academic discussion of that scripture lest more and more non-Muslims start paying attention to what Islamic scripture actually says and not what taqiyya slingers tell them it says.
gravenimage says
These are not all Muslims, though. Some of them are brainwashed Leftists, as well.
davej says
Their denial is so deep and complete that it is almost surrealistic. These are the equivalent of Nazi brown shirts trying to impose their fascist theology on everyone else using violence and deceit as their tactics.
Queers against being throw off rooftops, indeed.
Montedoro44 says
A suggestion to Robert for future college talks: Use the auditorium projection system with your computer so that you can display in the screen behind you anything that you can get on the computer — Koran passages, quotes from living influential muslim leaders, et al., in fact, why not prepare a slide show top both enhance and guide your presentation? Both the marauders and the attentive will then at least be exposed to what the marauders wish to conceal. Also, you would be able to type out onto the screen your ad-hoc comments in the midst of any melee that might develop. And use a highly visible laser pointer to attract attention to details. As an old teacher, I’m aware that proper visuals can be riveting. And in your case, trying to be heard over the melee seems to be acceding to and competing with overpowering forces of defiant ignorance.
simpleton1 says
That is a good point.
Keep it simple, not too fast,
so that the message can soak in.
May the batteries be freshly charged, and even a spare battery pack ready to go.
simpleton1 says
Lets double and more, the effectiveness of Robert Spencer.
The next step is us, to have on our tablet, cell phone, notebook, a ready response that will aid you in discussion with other people.
Do not over egg it, keep it short and succinct, get it as close as you can to the source, particularly of the koran, hadith, sira, and sunnah, of what the followers of the Mohammad believe and do, then leave it.
I thank Robert Spencer for this blog, and many other contributors,.
For here we can practice, and hone our skills, then to talk to others.
Clair Reading says
Some good suggestions in the comment. Why wasn’t this taped?
Pal says
Speeches must Never be declined by a University.
Is it a University or What??
I think, it would be better if Robert Spencer in advance asks them to organize Debates – with participation of islamic “pundits” as well: 5 min to Robert, 5 min to the “pundit” and so forth. With Q & As at the end.
The strength of ROBERT is not only in his Speeches – it is also in DEBATES!
HE WOULD SMASH THEM AND DISPLAY EVEN MORE THAN ANY SPEECH SHOWS!
MekaLekaHiMekaHineyHo says
Damned hippies. Where’s a real life Cartman when we need one?
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer in PJ Media: University at Buffalo students shout down truth about jihad
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These fools don’t want to know about the Jihad threat–and they don’t want anyone else to know, either.
More:
The thinking is extremely tortured here. Because I point out that the Islamic State (ISIS) uses the texts and teachings of Islam to justify violence and make recruits among peaceful Muslims, Rashid says I am promoting and supporting ISIS. This is tantamount to saying that Winston Churchill was pro-Nazi for pointing out that Hitler was motivated by Nazism.
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Spot on.
Of course–and this is largely forgotten today–Churchill was derided as a “hysteric” and, even more grotesquely, as a “warmonger” early on for daring to name Hitler and the Nazis as threats.
Michael says
As an ex_muslim, I never knew the truth about my religion until I read the Quran. I was in shock of the hate and stupidity. Islam is a cancer that must be eradicated. It is not that it says sperm come from the back bone of man or earth is flat and sun goes down in a river, it is the hate and antisemitism and jihad. Those students don’t know any better, they think Rober is a bigot, when he is not.
God bless you and all those like you who dare to explain and speak.
John_John says
The truth must be revealed:
CCTV shows a holiday tourist, Polish girl, Magdalena Zuk, drugged, beaten, raped & killed by a group of sex-hungry Muslim Arab men
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201705101053467652-egypt-tourist-mystery-death/
johan elzinga says
Dear mr Spencer, again I wish to express my gratitude and admiration for your courage and effort to speak out the truth here! I am queer and grateful. And yes, I am islampophobic and proud of it. Being afraid of the deeply disturbing medieval ideas that are promoted in the islam is to me a natural and necessary response of any civilized person. And yes, gay people and women suffer heavily from the islam, and it is also partly due to islam that Jewish people and Christians are in danger in many countries today.
stephen burgess says
We have the same problem in the uk leftist dumb what do they teach them at school that they are so thick.
Aussie Infidel says
Robert might not ever have said that, “Islam should be illegal.” But I do not see any other way out of this dilemma, other than delegitimising Islam. This would not even have to be an attack on Islam per se. Congress has never passed a legal definition of religion; but now the opportunity exists to do so.
A similar situation existed in Australia, during the Scientology case in 1983, and the High Court defined religion as, “A belief in a supernatural being, thing, or principle, together with canons of conduct to give effect to that belief.” But the Justices omitted to further state what conduct or behavior was acceptable, and the Sci Fiers were given the ‘green light’. It would only be necessary to insert, “behaviour consistent with the laws and Constitution of the US; or in accord with the principles of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which most Western governments have already signed.” Islam would be automatically excluded, and being illegal, Muslims wouldn’t even be able to attend their mosques.
This would also aid in matters of immigration legislation and citizenship.
All it needs is the political will to do it. And I don’t see any negative outcomes, other than mass protests by the Muslims. But they will only be condemning themselves.
IbnAbu says
Islam should be illegal. It indoctrinates people to hate and be violent and kill.
Joe says
The left is not stupid; they are violent. People on the left did not create Islam, but they certainly stoke the flames. For example, the CIA started Al-Qaeda by giving Osama bin Laden a list of 20,000 Muslim “radicals”; and Osama bin Laden was their figurehead. Whoever ran Al-Qaeda had to control the list of 20,000 or maybe twice that while communicating with them and getting donations. This is the work of at least 10 people. Osama bin Laden was going to school during the week and fighting in Afghanistan on the weekends while he was supposedly handling the list. It should be obvious that the CIA ran Al-Qaeda for years.
The elite are always on the left, because the regressive policies of the left keeps them on top.
Yes, Islam is violent and fascist but so is the left. The left wants blood. It allows them to have more police at their disposal. That is why so many departments in the Federal government are armed.
To say that the University of Buffalo is stupid for wanting Islam is not giving them credit. They are violent people who want blood. Not all of them fit that description, but the general movement goes in that direction.
Islam and the left are against free speech or any freedom. They want to control us. It is not stupidity; it is violent oppression.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Jeering from college/university educated students is the result of ”Diversity”. Enjoy!
UNCLE VLADDI says
That front-row “QUEERS AGAINST ISLAMOPHOBIA” sign is hilarious!
It surely seems that basic logic isn’t the strong suit of the average leftopath!
“Queers against people who are afraid of people who want to murder queers!”
UNCLE VLADDI says
Robert doesn’t have to say “islam should be illegal!” because it already IS illegal!
Right in the Qur’an is: the permission to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).
Are death-threats legal? NO.
Is extortion legal? NO.
Is slavery legal? NO.
Is murder legal? NO.
Is rape legal? NO.
THEN ISLAM IS ILLEGAL!
Rape, slavery, robbery, extortion and murder are never OK!
Nobody has a legal right to practice islam anywhere on earth!