“The 22-year-old British-born attacker was heard ‘chanting Islamic prayers loudly in the street’ outside his home in the south of the city.”
Not that anyone reported him. That would have been “Islamophobic.”
It’s a good thing we have Theresa May and the rest to tell us that this has nothing to do with Islam.
“‘He was chanting Islamic prayers loudly in the street’: Neighbours of British-born Manchester suicide bomber tell of his ‘strange behaviour’ in the weeks before deadly attack,” by Nick Fagge, Paul Thompson and Julian Robinson, MailOnline, May 23, 2017:
Neighbours of British-born Manchester suicide bomber Salman Abedi have revealed his ‘strange behaviour’ in the weeks before he slaughtered 22 people.
The 22-year-old British-born attacker was heard ‘chanting Islamic prayers loudly in the street’ outside his home in the south of the city.
Last night, the suicide bomber murdered and maimed concert goers as they were leaving Manchester Arena.
ISIS this morning claimed responsibility and threatened further attacks, saying ‘one of the caliphate’s soldiers placed bombs within a gathering of the Crusaders’.
Police are trying to determine whether Abedi, a Manchester United fan who appears to have been radicalised within the last couple of years, acted alone or was part of a wider terror cell.
It comes as dramatic pictures emerged showing anti-terror police swooping to arrest a 23-year-old man in Manchester over last night’s atrocity.
Separate pictures show raids at what is believed to have been Abedi’s home in Elsmore Road, Fallowfield, where a controlled explosion took place. One neighbour claimed they heard Abedi chanting Islamic prayers at the home just weeks before the concert hall atrocity.
Forensics were seen emerging from the property carrying a booklet called Know Your Chemicals.
Lina Ahmed, 21, told MailOnline: ‘They are a Libyan family and they have been acting strangely. A couple of months ago he [Salman] was chanting the first kalma [Islamic prayer] really loudly in the street. He was chanting in Arabic.
‘He was saying ‘There is only one God and the prophet Mohammed is his messenger’.’
Abedi’s former school friend Leon Hall told MailOnline he saw the killer last year and said he had grown a beard.
He also said the jihadist was a keen Manchester United fan.
Hall, 26, and Abedi lived close to each other in a row of run down terraced houses in the Moss Side area of Manchester.
They later ended up living next door to each other in a nearby street and went to the same school.
Hall said: ‘I saw him last year and he had a beard thing going on. We didn’t speak but just nodded to each other. I don’t remember seeing him with beard before.’
Hall said they grew up playing together on the street around their home.
‘He and I had a tussle many years ago when we were kids. It was over nothing, but he always had a bit of an attitude problem. I can’t say I really liked the man.’
Hall, who was sat outside his home with his sister, said Abedi was a Muslim.
Other family members at the house, who asked not to be named, confirmed that Abedi was a Muslim….
As if there was any doubt.
Keys says
Oh, he was a Manchester United fan, so he was just like many of us who like sports teams.
Did he like cucumbers?
gravenimage says
Good point, Keys.
Aaron says
That was just a coincidence! our globalist overlords “assure” us that this has “nothing to do with islam…”
mortimer says
Islam has NOTHING to do with Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
As for that heinous jihad suicide/homicide bombing in Manchester, England it was both murderous and demonic. !t now should be made known that this the outcome of the Islamic doctrine from the Qu‘’ran [the Koran] of a sexual paradise with many virgins, houris , in it for the male Muslim /jihadist who dies fighting in the jihad for the cause of Islam is found in the “holy book” of Islam, the Koran, in Sura 44:54. 55: 56. 78:31. Also there is the Koranic instruction of Sura 9:111 which teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s Cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Getting back to the origin doctrine of Islam from the Koran of a sex –filled paradise with many houris for the use only by the male jihadist who dies fight for the advancement of Islam. All this started when the founder and prophet of Islam, Muhammad manufactured Islam he put , had stolen, some of sex doctrine of Zoroastrian mythology and a yet smaller bit of Hindu mythological sex teachings along with as well as mixture pagan Arabian folklore and myth plus a heavy dose of Judaism and Christianity . Also some of it apostate “Christianity” For the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, couldn’t discern the difference between genuine Bible based Christianity and bogus “Christianity.” Those words and teaching Muhammad gathered from many sources, including the virgins /sex place mythology. , and taught as “Divine Truth” were written down on many things then later compiled and then went into the composition of the Koran. So the hoax of the Koran is actually a mixture and fusion Judaism Christianity and mythology of other religions and now the Muslim clerics with the Koranic brainwashing of young Muslims who are thoroughly mind programmed into believing this Islamic/Koranic virgins myth. This deception of false doctrine /myth into the thoughts of some people was predicted in the Bible along with the false teachers who engage in the indoctrination of such a myth /doctrine into the minds and hearts other people . For it is written “For the time will come when they will not stand wholesome teaching, but will follow their own fancy and gather a crown of teachers to tickle their ears. They will stop their ears to the truth and turn to mythology.” Second Timothy 4:3,4. [N.E.B.]
Walter Sieruk says
The jihadist or jihadists attacks in Western nations be the Muslim terrorists in the city of Manchester, Stockholm, London, Brussels , Paris, Nice, Berlin ,Madrid. Those jihad-minded Muslim terrorists who engage in those vicious Islamic terror attacks cannot be and will not be reasoned with. They will not respond to either logic or reason. They aren’t interested, at all, in reason or logic. So they have to be dealt with by a strong force of might. Either by the police or the military. For to even try to reason with a jihad-minded Muslim terrorist is just as much an act of futility as trying to teach algebra to a rabbit.
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
Yes! Thrice yes! They take peaceful dialogue as weakness (trust me I know).
dumbledoresarmy says
You identify yourself as an ex-Muslim.
*What* – given that Islamic brainwashing is so thorough, and the Death for Apostasy rule hangs over the heads of all disaffected Muslims – cracked you free of the Death Cult?
Were you born into it, and then slowly realized that it was both evil and stupid, and therefore – somewhere in a western country – screwed up the courage to leave?
Or were you originally an infidel, converted (without knowing enough about what you were getting into), and then… woke up and bolted?
I’d like to hear the story; you don’t have to give any dangerously-identifying details.
Because … it would be useful for all of us to know *what* sorts of things cause either a/ a ‘cradle Muslim’ OR b/ a deceived convert, to muster the courage to dump the Death Cult and join (or, in the case of some, RE-join) the Camp of the Free.
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
Hi there dumbledoresarmy,
I was born into the cult of death (aka Islam). However, I was lucky enough to grow up in Britain, go to a Church of England School and go to university in the UK.
To be honest, it was at university that I got into Islam (my family were secular, I grew up as a child celebrating Christmas, that’s how secular my upbringing was). To be honest, it was at university that I got sucked into Islam. Our universities, here in Britain, are hotbeds of Islamic indoctrination (Islamic Societies from British universities have provided at least 15 – 20 convicted terrorists in the last decade and a half). My university was particularly bad. What can I say? I was young and foolish and am ashamed of my folly.
To cut a long story short, I realised over time that Islam was both evil and stupid. In essence, Islam is a system of thought that lacks the ‘Golden Rule’ (do unto others as you would do unto yourself). It breeds hypocrisy and is utterly lacking in reciprocity.
I have many faults but hypocrisy is not one of them. Islam intrinsically makes one into a hypocrite.
To cut a
gravenimage says
Ex Muslim Against Islam, thanks for your story. Glad you were brave and principled enough to leave Islam. Chilling about your experience at university in Britain–but I have heard this sort of thing many times.
Jeanette says
We aren’t going to be able to save western civilization with anything short of emptying western countries of Muslims.
Even the quietest Muslim cannot guarantee that one or more of his/her children won’t go off the Koranic rail in a murderous rampage.
Since western leaders don’t want to stop the murderous rampages, they won’t do what is needed to clear out the Muslims, which means that unless something currently totally unforeseen occurs, western civilization is doomed.
Walter Sieruk says
That murderous jihad terror attack at the concert at Manchester totally cruel and despicable. This heinous Islamic of mass murder is so extremely evil , so evil , in fact, this is mass murdering of young people ,most of them girls also has a strong vicious element of misogyny to it. Misogyny, as most informed people do understand, is very much part of the essence of Islam. Along with the brutal deadly violence of this religion. This Muslim /terrorist bombing is not as some claim as result of a warped version of Islam but hard core non-watered down Quran based Islam. For example, the Quran instructs in Sura 9:123 “O you who believe ! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you…” It’s thus very easy for a jihad minded Muslim show harshness to young girls who are not Muslims by exploding and bomb .This sure can be harsh This wicked action was the outcome of the deadly cruel religion which is Islam.
Jeanette says
Someone who was charged with questioning terrorists (sorry, can’t remember his name) said on Fox this morning that one of the terrorists told him that killing infidel children is an important part of the plan – it keeps them from having non-Muslim children later.
If I were a mother of a young daughter in London, she wouldn’t be going to ANYTHING that was likely to attract a lot of young girls.
This isn’t rocket science.
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
My condolences to all the victims of this Islamic/Muslim terrorist murder attack (for what it’s worth, which is not much if you’ve lost your child or a loved one).
I’m so sorry to you, the people of the western world (who graciously gave a home to my family and I ), for all this evil coming from the community I was born into and identified with actively. I’m speaking as someone who was a religious Muslim, one of those ‘moderate’, apologetic types.
Islam IS the root of the problem. Look at Japan; very few Muslims but no problems (re terrorism).
I want to help fight this problem. Being a citizen of the UK I will volunteer my services to the security services.
My thanks to the counter-jihad movement (especially people like Robert Spencer) for helping to free me from the yoke of Islam.
Michael Copeland says
May you be of valuable use in your offer.
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
Oh I will. I know the British Muslim community like the back of my hand.
dumbledoresarmy says
Offer your services to PEGIDA UK, to Gavin Boby and his “Law and Freedom Foundation”, and to Paul Weston and Liberty Great Britain.
I’d also advise joining “The Royal Society of St George”, which is a nice old-fashioned patriotic society devoted to maintaining, preserving and promoting the best of English culture. Join, learn, contribute, fly the Flag of St George… and, patiently, quietly, politely, do your best to warn your fellow-members about the massive Fifth Column – the Mohammedan colony – that has established itself within the gates of Britain.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Ex Muslim Against Islam.
Keys says
Your comments, Ex Muslim Against Islam, confirm for many of us the hope that truth will prevail. Thank you for posting.
salim says
ex muslim against islam:
Like you, at some stage I also thought the security services would benefit from the ex muslims’ experiences and knowledge. I assumed their naive responses to terrorism were due to their lack of knowledge about Islam and the mindset of Muslims.
NO my friend, the UK government knows everything about Islam and Muslims and they do what they do on purpose. It is people like us who are naive, the governments (of UK, Europe and USA) simply have different agendas and different motivations which we don’t know.
Soon you will discover the government prefers to deal with people like the Muslim Council of Britain than ex Muslims like you. I just wish I am completely wrong.
gravenimage says
Don’t give up–you are educating a lot of people here, Salim.
Bill W. says
If you are an ex Muslim my God Bliss you and keep you safe
From A Roman Catholic
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
Thanks Bill. I’m an atheist these days (Islam killed religion for me unfortunately). However, if was going to adopt a religion it would definitely be Christianity (Jesus was a good guy as opposed to the utter evil that is personified by Muhammad).
Jeanette says
You are a breath of fresh air, ex-muslim!
Walter Sieruk says
The hideous and evil Islamic terrorists bombing in the city if Manchester was totally evil. This not as some claim a result of a “hijacked Islam” but actual violent Quran based jihad Islam. This Muslim suicide /homicide bombing is on the Quran as ,for example , in Sura 9:111 it teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s cause they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed…” Furthermore, in Sura 47:4. it also instructs “Whenever you encounter the unbelievers strike off their heads until you make a great slaughter among them…” Let’s face it , setting off a bomb murdering young are who are not Muslims is a very effective way to “make greater slaughter among them.” In conclusion, the religion of Islam is actually a death cult.
Michael Copeland says
“Police are trying to determine whether Abedi … was part of a wider terror cell.”
The answer is Yes. The wider terror cell is an ideology called Islam.
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
Spot on!
Debi Brand says
Indeed.
J_not_a says
Yes in this same article again the police said they are still trying to find out if this was a lone wolf attack or part of a larger cell! Aaaarrrgghhhh! Again! They ALWAYS turn out to have had help, lots of it. How hopelessly stupid are these socalled authorities? Or blind, they cannot see what is right in front of their faces. And that, after mentioning many connected to various plots at home and abroad were from Manchester. I couldn’t sleep too well if I lived there knowing how gdamn clueless these twits are.
dumbledoresarmy says
“The answer is Yes. The wider terror cell is an ideology called Islam.”
What you should have written: “The answer is, Yes. The wider terror cell is the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob, the Allah Gang, the ‘Muslim community’.”
Got Muslims? Got Jihad.
Everybody in the UK, inundate PM May’s in-tray with letters and emails saying just exactly that: “Got Muslims? Got Jihad. Lots of Muslims in and around Manchester? – Muslim mass murder of music-loving infidels, in Manchester.”
And say exactly the same, every one of you, to your sitting MP.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Michael.
marc says
No mention of the mosque the imam denied he prayed at yet.
dumbledoresarmy says
The British authorities should be surprise-raiding and searching – with Army sappers and sniffer dogs part of the teams – every known mosque in Manchester and surrounds.
Jeanette says
Will Theresa Sharia permit that?
Her Muslim-loving friend Angela Merkel just announced that Germany is going to be an Islamic country, and the Germans are just going to have to deal with it.
I expect Theresa Sharia to come out with something similar any day now.
isabella says
The most important thing now is that we all stand together to prevent any Islamophobic backlash
Then we must leave some flowers and teddy bears at the scene of this attack which so distorts the teachings of Islam the religion of peace
LeeZee says
I hope, Isabella, that you are being sarcastic. If not, you need help.
dumbledoresarmy says
It’s sarcasm, laid on with a trowel.
Personally, if I were in Manchester I *would* leave flowers – a square wreath of red and white roses arranged into the shape of the Cross of St George.
Jeanette says
Or black flowers at Theresa Sharia May’s front door.
Jeanette says
I read it as sarcastic!
gravenimage says
Definitely sarcastic. Isabella is an Anti-Jihadist.
overman says
Manchester must be a seething pit of muslim filth. Rochdale is a town in Greater Manchester – where a muslim rape gang were last week, potrayed in a BBC Drama.
l couldn’t believe how many muslims were put in front of the camera today, by the mainstream media – not just CNN, who were just repeating the same old BS about police not knowing the motivation and that ISIS are opportunists because they claimed responsibilty. They had one muslim who condemned the atrocity, as they will, but in the next breath said ‘l’m a proud muslim and l won’t let anyone hi-jack my religion’ [l think we know he’s referring to kaffir’s] – and this guy is organizing the vigil tonight, for those who died.
gravenimage says
Disgusting but predictable handling by the MSM.
Jayke says
These people get “radicalized” when they finally read and take to heart Mohammad’s manual of world conquest by murder and mayhem. We have about a billion ticking time bombs of “radicalization” roaming around.
overman says
lnteresting information on this by Paul Joseph Watson:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4vWR5BpDdQ
gravenimage says
Powerful video–I had not seen Paul Joseph Watson before. Thank you.
“Tolerance becomes a crime when applied to evil”
–Thomas Mann
overman says
Nice quote that l haven’t seen before.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is entirely salient now.
Phil Copson says
“I had not seen Paul Joseph Watson before….”
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You’ve surprised me there, GI – I hope that you are aware of Pat Condell’s excellent expositions ?
overman says
Yes Pat IS excellent.
gravenimage says
Yes, thank you–I know Pat Condell very well, and he is excellent–but had not run into Watson’s work before. I will look for more of his stuff.
David Wood is also great.
Phil Copson says
Thanks – I will look for David Woods – not sure that I’ve seen his videos.
(thanks too, for your reply to Ibrahim “Hitachi” Muhammed’s comments – do you think he is a real person who actually believes what he posts, or just a bunch of Arab students having a laugh ?
His comments directed at me (“you are the son of a prostitute brought-up by gay couples…”) had me in fits of laughter, and may have been his best line since “muslim women won’t have sex with Christians because their foreskins are full of maggots.” There is surely a career in stand-up comedy – (“Abdul the Fiendish Turk” ?) – awaiting ?
On the other hand, if he is serious, then it is an invaluable insight into the impossibility of having a rational discussion with someone whose head has been pumped full of nonsense since birth, and may help get the message through that Islam has to be contained by force.)
gravenimage says
Hi, Phil. This is a good place to start with David Wood:
“Understanding Islam in under 60 Seconds”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWJ6p3PpCs
He is principled, highly knowledgeable, compassionate, and has a wicked sense of humor.
For a somewhat longer piece, here is “My Favorite Qur’an Verse”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANWJ6p3PpCs
Lots more great stuff from him, and easy to find on-line.
As for the unhinged ibrahim itace muhammed, I do think he’s the real thing. He’s just too bizarre–but entirely on Islamic lines–to be an Infidel behind a Muslim mask.
Keys says
Thanks for this video.
This man has a brain, and courage.
gravenimage says
UK: Manchester jihad mass murderer was “chanting Islamic prayers loudly in the street” in weeks before massacre
……………………………
This should not surprise. Keep this in mind if a Mohammedan in your neighborhood starts doing this…
simpleton1 says
This would have been a part of the prayer that the suicide bomber was winding himself up with, plus other verses
Why does this dissension with Jews and Christians have to be repeated 5 times a day?.
Just what are you supposed to do with unbelievers? the ones that have earned anger?, the ones that have gone astray?
Answers found in the koran, (the abrogating verses), hadith, sira and sunnah.
Killing ‘other’ muslims is ok as they have gone astray from islam, would also seem to be apostates, and the 4 schools of islamic jurisprudence have very ruthless guidelines in how to deal with them.
gravenimage says
Exactly–Islam is rife with calls for violent against unbelievers.
Walter Sieruk says
That brutal and deadly jihad bombing attack in the city of Manchester ,England does bring up the idea that ,in many ways, Islam is actually a death cult. For many time jihad minded Muslims have gathered together and chanted “They love life. We live death.” By their owns word they have exposes Islam to be a death cult. In great contrast there is Christianity which is centered on Jesus, Who taught and gave life and not death. For example , Jesus explained ” I am come that they might have life., and that they might have it more abundantly.” John 10:10. [K.J.V.]
gravenimage says
Islam *is* a death cult. These thugs brag about how “we love death”.
DRHazard says
Islam is clearly NOT a religion.
Religion is supposed to make someone a better person. Islam, on the other hand, is an ideology perfectly suited for those who are angry at the world and want to kill. Instead of uniting people it divides them. Instead of encouraging freedom it ridicules and abuses it. Instead of offering mercy and tolerance it promotes revenge and exclusion. Instead of providing good moral instruction it commands the blind following of codes of behavior that were wrong when they were first spoken 1400 years ago. Instead of opening up minds it closes them. Instead of just letting people leave the religion, ithose people be executed. Instead of teaching the values of listening and learning it replaces them with shouting and whining. Instead of encouraging self reflection and responsibility it turns its followers into professional victims who blame all their problems on other people (including other Muslims).
And most of all, Islam offers salvation from ALL of one’s past sins through the act of mass murder. How can Islam be a religion when it hates life?
Jeanette says
Many western leaders seem invested in allowing Muslims to kill non-Muslim westerners, and taking away Islam’s label of religion would not further that agenda.
overman says
They just arrested a lunatic at the ‘vigil’ screaming and carrying a baseball bat and an axe.
BREAKING: Screams as man wielding ‘AXE and baseball bat’ caught at Manchester attack vigil
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/616767/Manchester-Terrorist-Attack-Vigil-Birmingham-Knife-Baseball-Bat-Arrest-Rena-Ariana-Grande
P2 says
British people must learn to live with terrorism just as French politicians teach.
Jeanette says
Until Theresa announces that Great Britain is going to be an Islamic country, and the British will just have to deal with it.
Her friend Angela Merkel has just told the Germans that, and I’m guessing it’s only a matter of time until Theresa Sharia follows suit.
Agoodcuppa says
If I was a Muslim in Britain, I’d denounce my faith immediately!! I’d want nothing to do with it!
It’s all crap!..a so called ‘faith’ that applauds and justifies the public stoning, whipping, raping, biurning and beheading of people!!! Oooooo…what a peaceful, tolerant faith eh!….give me a pen quick…I’m just busting ma ass to sign up…..!!! Oh yeah….And there’s nothing wrong with Peppa Pig you total tossers!
Ex Muslim Against Islam says
I did and have never felt better. It’s a way of death (as opposed to life).
gravenimage says
Kudos to you, Ex Muslim Against Islam.