Marvelous ingenuity. Samata Ullah is clearly a very intelligent man. And because of his religious beliefs, he devoted his intelligence to devising ways to commit mass murder.
A wasted life.
More on this story. “Cufflink terrorist Samata Ullah jailed for eight years over James Bond-style devices,” by Mark White, Sky News, May 2, 2017:
Samata Ullah has been described by police as a “very dangerous individual” after he created online instructions on how to build explosives and avoid detection by the authorities.
The 34-year-old from Cardiff downloaded those instructions, along with extremist material, onto USB sticks disguised as cufflinks.
When police raided his home in October last year, they found 60 cufflink USB sticks around his bedroom.
Ullah admitted five terror offences, including membership of the Islamic State terror group, as well being involved in terrorist training and preparation for terrorist acts.
He was given an extended sentence of eight years in jail with a further five years on extended licence.
Commander Dean Haydon, head of Scotland Yard’s counter-terror unit, said: “Ullah was a very dangerous individual. He operated primarily on the internet. I would class him as an internet terrorist.
“He provided a one-stop-shop for terrorists around the world to access. He provided a library of propaganda material, relating primarily to Daesh (Islamic State).
“He provided instruction and guidance in relation to accessing weapons and weapons systems and as a result, we know terrorists around different parts of the world did actually access this material and found his website extremely useful.”
Ullah was a key member of a group calling itself the ‘Cyber Caliphate Army’ and gave other members of IS advice on how to communicate using the kind of sophisticated encryption techniques employed by online hackers.
The court heard he used voice modulation software to disguise his Welsh accent in the videos and wore woolly gloves to disguise his skin tone.
In all, officers seized 150 devices and trawled through eight terabytes of data – the equivalent of 2.2m copies of the ebook of War And Peace.
Ullah, a divorced British national of Bangladeshi origin, had recently resigned from his job as an insurance worker and came to the attention of police following the arrest of a terror suspect in Kenya….
Michael says
8 years. Well, if England isn’t a caliphate by then, he can go back to work. And learn new tricks while he’s in prison with his homies.
Weird the penalties are so light for wanting to destroy the country you live in, but obviously hate.
mortimer says
Samata Ullah should be segregated from other inmates in a special detention facility, preferably an island where no one may visit or be infected with his SADOMASOCHISTIC IDEOLOGY.
Western governments need to offer these highly convinced jihadists the opportunity of reducing their sentences by voluntarily following a complete, professional deprogramming course on the university graduate level which will take them right out of Islam. Only by deprogramming them right out of Islam can the threat be removed from society. Once the deprogramming materials are disseminated through the Islamic world, Islam will rapidly collapse and the mullahs will be unable to do anything about the exposure of Islam’s non-existent foundations. Islam is a political concoction invented by the caliphs.
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, please be more specific about deprogramming; and if any is available and used, how well has it worked? How can one who worships the idea of lying whenever helpful to obtain advantage over infidels be trusted to tell the truth about “seeing the light.” Is this another version of Viktor Frankl’s “delusion of reprieve”? (Man’s Search for Meaning). Please help us have reason to believe that deprogramming has worked in the past so that the time money and effort should be applied now.
I can only imagine that decades of deprogramming Nazi death camp guards might be sufficient to teach them the “error of their ways”. Why are Muslims, who have been worshiping and praying for murder. . . and so many other things for 1400 years going to change when the Islamic death penalty awaits them if they do?
I would really appreciate further discussion of your proposal.
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, you might wish to consider the case of Tarasoff v Board of Regents. . .17 Cal.3d 425, 551 P.2d 334 (Cal. 1976), where an inmate was released from a California psychiatric hospital and almost immediately (as soon as the opportunity was presented) killed Ms. Tarasoff, following years of threats and musings to the treating psychiatrist. California paid dearly for Ms. Tarasoff’s death.
I wonder how the Board and doctors feel about their efforts at deprogramming a killer? The man that is subject of this article is no less a killer than anyone who pulls the trigger or uses any other weapon with his aid and comfort. Anyone who aids, abets, counsels or acts in furtherance of a federal crime is equally guilty of the crime. 18 United States Code Section 2. Murder is both a state crime and a violation of federal civil rights. I am intrigued by the possibility that a treating psychiatrist might be criminally prosecuted for aiding a murder by helping release an inmate who then commits or participates in a murder. That prosecution would certainly give pause to delusional releases because the doctor is a Minor Deity who has never admitted to imperfection. (The Doctor knows everything; and the rest of us are idiots who know nothing. Sound familiar?)
How do you reconcile your proposal of de-programming with the teachings of Islam, the practice of 1400 years and the legal experience reflected particularly in Tarasoff? I believe you have posted your de-programming proposal a number of times, but have never once gone beyond the bare proposal to show any support or success. Am I correct?
Frank Anderson says
Mortimer, another case may have some application to this situation: Do you remember a few years ago where the Italian government criminally prosecuted several geologists for failing to predict a large earthquake? I know that I don’t know all. I would still like to hear your thoughts on why your deprogramming proposal would work in light of the questions that have been posed? If a geologist can be prosecuted, and a psychiatrist can be sued for failure to predict deadly events, why would any professional put his life and license on the line to return a sworn killer back to the streets? Please support your proposal if you have any support to share.
terry says
Some Christian fundamentalists have been trying ( recently turned down by the Supreme Court for the 2nd or 3rd time) to overturn a Cal law that banned them from trying to “deprogram” gay people. AS IT WAS TOTALLY USELESS, AND DID NOTHING.
(Cal, as I understand it) allows people to do it- voluntarily- but cannot be forced- and have to be of age-IE over 18. However, I might be wrong.
it involved dating tips; electric shocks etc.
article was on the Internet a few days ago
terry says
not meant to disparage Christian fundamentalists-just that deprogramming really seems not to work very well, or be very successful.
Frank Anderson says
Terry, I agree from what I know and have seen in my life that “a leopard does not change his spots, nor a zebra his stripes.” A Ph.D counselor/friend who helps masses of homeless frequently says, “People don’t change; they just get older.” In every seminar I have attended, which is required to maintain an active law license, where child molesters are discussed there is universal agreement that child molesters will always repeat the offense given the opportunity. Islam has as one of its many bedrock evil and sanctioned practices child molestation. I cannot see how a Muslim can be de-programmed when all of the experience with other child molesters is to the contrary. Therefore, I am back to Viktor Frankl’s “delusion of a reprieve.”
De-programming is a popular chant for ignorant, uninformed or deceptive people who are trying to make money or delay productive responses by conning people into false hope of solving an unsolvable problem. I have asked Mortimer to put on his thoughts and support them with whatever proof either by research or experience that contradicts the well-known experience. Mortimer has remained silent. Could it be because Mortimer was “talking through his hat” and has no support? Unless he can state some support, I think it is time to consider him for what he is. If he has some support or explanation and would share it, who knows? He may at least have a point? Until then the idea is nothing but smoke to me.
Pete says
Fat chance that will happen. Specially in the UK. Feeding them lead will work fast.
TL says
Mortimer, you claimed that “Only by deprogramming them right out of Islam can the threat be removed from society.” There are at least two problems with the claim. First, deprograming is expensive. Who will pay if the fanatic lacks sufficient wealth to be seized as payment, or if legal obstructions prevent the seizure of such assets? Second, the threat could be removed by lobotomization or other technique to render the Muslim into a zombie who could not possibly regress to its prior state of piety.
Jeanette says
Do you actually believe that Muslims will be deprogrammed out of overbreeding, when their only reasons for existence are sex and killing?
And what will happen when they outnumber non-Muslims on this planet because we so kindly tried to deprogram them, instead of dealing with them on a serious basis? I suspect that when that is the case, membership in Islam will prove to be the “mark of the Beast” that the Bible predicts.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Western governments need to offer these highly convinced jihadists the opportunity of reducing their sentences by voluntarily following a complete, professional deprogramming course on the university graduate level which will take them right out of Islam. Only by deprogramming them right out of Islam can the threat be removed from society.
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Of course Muslims would agree to this so they can get out early, Mortimer–and then would just lie about it. I have a close relative who has been in and out of prison, and he went to Church or to AA meetings if he thought it would look good to the judge. He–and many of his fellows–were completely cynical about this, and made fun of anyone who they thought was taking these things seriously.
More:
Once the deprogramming materials are disseminated through the Islamic world, Islam will rapidly collapse and the mullahs will be unable to do anything about the exposure of Islam’s non-existent foundations. Islam is a political concoction invented by the caliphs.
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Mortimer, first you said that only a graduate-level course of study would accomplish this “deprogramming”–now you are saying that a simple dissemination of “deprogramming materials” would do the trick, and in no time at all.
What would these “deprogramming materials” consist of, and why would Muslims pay any attention to them?
Information on Islam has been available for a very long time, yet right now Muslims over all are undergoing a revitalization of their vicious faith.
Terry says
I had a friend, (since deceased) who was a criminal defense attorney in the Miami, FL area, during the time when drugs and crime were even more rampant than now.
I occasionlaly did work for him, and met many of his clients.
Many, as you mentioned, ” FOUND JESUS; FOUND MOSES; FOUND THE TRUE HEAVENLY SPIRIT”, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. TO GET PAROLE.
Most were rearrested within weeks, sometimes they stayed out 2 or 3 months. I think ONE OR TWO managed not tog et arrested or killed (doing crimes, or as a result of doign crimes). Few went straight.
gravenimage says
All too common, Terry.
Of course, a few felons really do want to get straight–it does happen.
But pious Muslim Jihadists, with the specter of early release dangling before them if they can just fool the hopeful Infidels? I imagine this would be rare as hen’s teeth, and so hideously dangerous to ourselves.
somehistory says
He has a Welsh accent? Did he move there from Bangladesh when he was a little kid?
It’s obvious that pleasing satan by killing others who have done him no harm is more important than appreciating that he no longer lives in a third wold country, too poor to pay attention.
Terry says
It says a British national of Bangladeshi origin.
What does that mean in simple English? Were his parents (or grandparents) from Bangladesh and he born in England, or, as Some History asks, did he come here as a little kid? Or, older, as a ‘refugee”?
And, why 8 years? My view- the death penalty too mild.
gravenimage says
It probably means he was born in Bangladesh and is a naturalized British citizen.
If so, deport him when he serves his prison term.
somehistory says
I looked up the term used and it is very confusing. There are several ways of becoming a “naturalized” British citizen. The one that seems to fit him is one of his parents was a British citizen.
Jeanette says
It means that he was allowed into Britain as one of their “colonials,” suicide for Great Britain and the westerners who used to make up that country.
dk black says
“When police raided his home in October last year, they found 60 cufflink USB sticks around his bedroom.”
…But when they looked in his closet, they found no shirts with French cuffs, which was a dead giveaway
Jeanette says
And they didn’t even have Inspector Morse to figure that out for them!
Wellington says
A Muslim James Bond is an oxymoron.
One knows this or should know it because James Bond, whatever devious and lascivious paths he may have taken was still, ultimately, on the side of freedom. No Muslim true to his faith can possibly be.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Wellington.
terry says
I read (actually, I had heard this decades before, also) recently that Mr. Fleming, who wrote the James Bond stories, was himself a spy, and in the (then) Soviet Union (USSR), and that some of the Bond episodes were (exaggerated/blown up-literary license) of actual events.
And, i agree- Bond was for freedom not slavery
gravenimage says
Ian Fleming was indeed an intelligence officer with the British Navy.
TL says
Look at that “British national”. He is more evidence that Britain fought WWII on the wrong side of a war between two evils, internationalist communism vs. German national communism. British pigheadedness, then motivated in part by imperial pride, led the British into a world historical mistake.
It’s by the way that the British are responsible also for driving Rohingya Muslims into Burma, now called Myanmar. Those Rohingya are the new darlings of leftist victimology, but they’ve been making pests of theirselves, like the British government has been a pest throughout the world for most of the past 400 yrs.
Wellington says
Do you actually want to argue that the UK should have aligned with Hitler? Really?
As for your “past 400 years comment,” don’t you even remotely grasp that the British carried in their imperial knapsack the seeds of liberty, as evidenced by America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, et al.?
The British government, with all its faults, has been one of the greatest forces for the betterment of mankind over the last 400 years or more (more like 800 years or more——or even back into Alfred the Great’s time). Doubt me? Well then, name a few forces from any part of the world which have been a greater force for liberty, decency, the capacity to apologize for its own wrongdoings, etc., than has Britain over the past millennia or more.
I say you can name NOT ONE But take up my challenge and name such polity or polities.
Your turn. Waiting.
gravenimage says
TL wrote:
Look at that “British national”. He is more evidence that Britain fought WWII on the wrong side of a war between two evils, internationalist communism vs. German national communism. British pigheadedness, then motivated in part by imperial pride, led the British into a world historical mistake.
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Nazi apologist TL is at it again, claiming that Britain was “pigheaded” for not surrendering to Hitler. How grotesque.
Also, note that he is not capable of understanding freedom at all–he believes that WWII was merely a fight between two totalitarian horrors. *Ugh*.
TL says
Commie apologist gravenimage, a sucker for History Channel history, has attacked another straw man. What I suggested, and have stated plainly elsewhere, is that the British should have JOINED Germany in a project to destroy the internationalists. Even obtuse Wellington was able to grasp this point in spite of his ridiculous day dreaming about the supposed virtues of WORLDWIDE British do-gooding and bullying. (Notice that Wellington’s heroes didn’t merely drop off their “seeds of liberty”, say, in New Zeeland. As usual for land grabbing and money grubbing Abrahamists, the British pests grabbed everything for their selves and were alone in discovereing that they had carried any seeds of liberty off their boats with them.)
Now, I did not claim or imply that WWII was “merely a fight between two totalitarian horrors”, which would have suggested that there were few readily discernible differences between the nationalists and the internationalists. Rather, one obvious difference is the inherent weakness, when viewed from the standpoint of communism, of the nationalists’ preservation of the forms of private property, market economy, etc.
If the British had chosen wisely, the internationalists could have been wiped out. Afterwards in Germany, human nature, esp. the desire to retain the fruits of one’s own labor, would have moderated the collectivism of the NSDAP. It’s true also that the NSDAP was a cult of personality, and given Hitler’s mortality there woukd have been numerous forces working to tear apart the NSDAP not long after the war. So the NSDAP was the lesser horror, and we need to admit this painful fact so that we can stop repeating policy mistakes, both foreign and domestic, over and over again. This is what adults do when they learn about their mistakes and those of their ancestors.
Let’s turn our attention now to the migratory invasion underway in Europe. Is there any one here foolish enough to claim that it would be going on if Britian had behaved like an adult in the 1930’s and 40’s? Can you claim without apoearing to be the moron tha the invasion would have happened in the absence of the internationalists who arranged the invasion?
gravenimage says
More from sickening apologist for Fascism TL:
Commie apologist gravenimage, a sucker for History Channel history, has attacked another straw man.
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Of course, I am no apologist for Communism, and never have been. Like so many supporters of Fascism, TL appears to be incapable of grasping that there are other forms of governance besides tyranny.
The fact is that Nazism and Communism are quite similar, based on invading their neighbors, brutalizing their populations, and relying on slave labor.
Has TL forgotten that Nazi stands for “National Socialism”–or does he just hope that *we* have forgotten?
I support *freedom*, and so do most people here. That is, in fact, why we opposed the horrors of Islam. God only knows why TL has a problem with it, given his penchant for savagery.
Also, his idea that I have simply learned about WWII from “the History Channel” is absurd. I have a degree in history–besides which, my mother and aunt are WWII veterans.
More:
What I suggested, and have stated plainly elsewhere, is that the British should have JOINED Germany in a project to destroy the internationalists.
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Civilized Britons had no interest in enslaving Europe and committing genocide against the Jews and Gypsies. How can TL pretend that these things did not happen, and that dear ol’ Uncle Adolf just went on his bloody rampage across Europe in order to oppose the “internationalists”?
And did he notice that no nation in Europe was Communist–or, again, does he hope that we are ignorant of this fact?
And his idea that Britain could just partner with Nazi Germany is also ludicrous. Mussolini tried this, and it did not end well for him.
Megalomaniacal racial supremacists tend not to play with others–who knew? sarc/off
More:
Even obtuse Wellington was able to grasp this point in spite of his ridiculous day dreaming about the supposed virtues of WORLDWIDE British do-gooding and bullying. (Notice that Wellington’s heroes didn’t merely drop off their “seeds of liberty”, say, in New Zeeland (sic). As usual for land grabbing and money grubbing Abrahamists, the British pests grabbed everything for their selves and were alone in discovereing (sic) that they had carried any seeds of liberty off their boats with them.)
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It should, of course, come as no surprise that an apologist for the Nazis would sneer at the entire concept of liberty. His implication that “New Zeeland” (sic) is not a free country, for instance, could not be more ludicrous.
And note his reference to “Abrahamists”, grouping civilized Jews and Christians in with ravening Mohammedans. This is what *Muslims* do.
More:
Now, I did not claim or imply that WWII was “merely a fight between two totalitarian horrors”, which would have suggested that there were few readily discernible differences between the nationalists and the internationalists.
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Well, of course he would not characterize WWII in this manner, since he actually *supports* Fascism. He does not consider there to be anything horrifying about the Nazis invading their neighbors, crushing freedom, and running death camps for Jews.
He wishes no one had stopped these things at all.
More:
Rather, one obvious difference is the inherent weakness, when viewed from the standpoint of communism, of the nationalists’ preservation of the forms of private property, market economy, etc.
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Who knows what tack the vile TL is taking here? Is he agreeing with Communism that this is a weakness?
But this is a false claim, in any case. Under Fascism, while technically private property exists, there are no safeguards for the populace at all. Hence, the government regularly deprived citizens of their property, their freedom, and their lives.
Free enterprise was curtailed in similar ways.
More:
If the British had chosen wisely, the internationalists could have been wiped out.
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In other words, TL’s beloved Nazis might be in power to this day.
I have mentioned before that the Soviet Union no longer exists–as before, he talks as though they are still a threat to us.
More:
Afterwards in Germany, human nature, esp. the desire to retain the fruits of one’s own labor, would have moderated the collectivism of the NSDAP. It’s true also that the NSDAP was a cult of personality, and given Hitler’s mortality there woukd (sic) have been numerous forces working to tear apart the NSDAP not long after the war. So the NSDAP was the lesser horror, and we need to admit this painful fact so that we can stop repeating policy mistakes, both foreign and domestic, over and over again. This is what adults do when they learn about their mistakes and those of their ancestors.
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How many times have we heard *this* claptrap before–that if only some tyranny is allowed to roll over its victims unopposed that it will somehow “moderate”? This is the “pothole” theory of history–that in the end, savagery never continues because everyday issues soon intrude–as though the default for all human endeavor is democracy and freedom.
TL is saying this about Nazi Germany–and other tools have made the claim for Hamas and Hizb’allah:
“Pipes: Can Hezbollah and Hamas Be Democratic?”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2005/03/pipes-can-hezbollah-and-hamas-be-democratic
In fact, Robert Spencer specifically notes the parallel with the Nazis.
But freedom does not happen by accident–it has to be worked for.
And when, exactly, would the Nazis have ‘mellowed’, in TL’s view? After they had conquered all of Europe and crushed all resistance? After they had wiped out all European Jewry? Obviously, TL does not even care about this.
More:
Let’s turn our attention now to the migratory invasion underway in Europe. Is there any one here foolish enough to claim that it would be going on if Britian (sic) had behaved like an adult in the 1930’s and 40’s? Can you claim without apoearing (sic) to be the moron tha (sic) the invasion would have happened in the absence of the internationalists who arranged the invasion?
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TL’s implication that all would be well re the threat of Islam is only Hitler had triumphed is questionable at best. Hitler himself admired Islam, saying that if Muslims had prevailed at Poitiers that “Germans would have become heirs to “a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament.”
This was not the only time he lamented Europe not having fallen to Islam, saying, “had Charles Martel not been victorious at Poitiers then we should in all probability have been converted to Mohammedanism, that cult which glorifies the heroism and which opens up the seventh Heaven to the bold warrior alone. Then the Germanic races would have conquered the world.”
He also raged that “the Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”
The idea that *this* would be our bulwark against Islam could not, of course, be more grotesque.
One can endlessly rewrite history–it is just an idle exercise. So what is TL’s point? He cannot change history, but he can–or so he hopes–sow the idea that if only Fascism had been allowed to triumph that all our problems would be solved.
*That* is his goal here.
Anti-Jihadists here will continue to fight the tyranny of Islam–and not by adopting Islamophilic Nazi tyranny ourselves.
utis says
“How like a viper to one’s bosom …” At least King Lear’s ungrateful brats got knock off by the end of the play. Doesn’t UK have treason laws, or have their Hippie elders discarded them?
Anne Smith says
We used to have treason laws. Tony Blair – one of the worst if not THE worst Prime Minister ever – got rid of them.
Jeanette says
What will it take to get them back – an MP’s little girl being raped? Or beheaded?
It looks like it’s going to take something similar here to get anything real done about the Muslims. We do have the advantage of being armed, though.
terry says
Probably- and probably MORE THAN ONE. (wife or daughter or granddaughter)
gravenimage says
UK “Muslim James Bond” ran “one-stop shop for terrorists around world,” hid info in cufflinks
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“Muslim James Bond” my *ss.
Anne Smith says
One wonders why this creature found it necessary to come to England. East Bengal was once part of India then it became part of the new Muslim state of Pakistan, then it quarrelled with the Government of Pakistan and set up their own country, calling it Bangladesh.
Why can’t they stay in their own messes, I just despair at the rubbish we have let into the UK. They are now hell bent on turning us into their sort of hell hole.
Jeanette says
Their long, long term plan is to force Islam on the entire world – that’s why.
The globalists think they can use that inclination to get rid of the people of the West, because they will be a problem when it comes to the globalists’ darling, the One World Government.
Apparently a lot of these globalists are not too good at critical thinking, as they seem to believe that after killing off western civilization, the ALLAHgator will not eat them.
gravenimage says
Because they want to impose Islam on the whole world.