Too many jihadis to keep track of, and more are coming all the time. Madness.
“ISIS claims responsibility for Manchester attack, suspected bomber identified,” CBS News, May 23, 2017:
MANCHESTER — CBS News can now confirm authorities believe the suspect responsible for the deadly Manchester Arena attack is 23-year-old Salman Abedi.
Authorities said the suspect is known to them, but wouldn’t release further details….
A second 23-year-old was also arrested Tuesday in South Manchester.
Monday night’s attack was carried out by a lone suspect, but officials are trying to figure out who knew about the attack before hand and if there was a network of people helping.
Santa Voorhees says
Turns out to be a muslim. Not surprising at all.
peter hinks says
i guess that turd was radicalised online.
JawsV says
No, by the Quran which exhorts Muslims to kill non-Muslims, called Jihad.
Paul N Silas says
My prayers go out to all of England. Sadly, if they hadn’t caught them last week, the same thing might have happened at a Twins or Vikings game in Minneapolis MN.
Stay alert, stay armed, never give up, never surrender to Islam.
Monty says
“Known to the authorities”. Who do nothing to prevent Jihad attacks. When Hitler rained terror on London in the form of the “V” weapons, the British took action. The only way the attacks could be stopped was to shut down the German war machine entirely. The only way to stop Muslim attacks is to outlaw Islam and intern all Muslims indefinitely. Of course this will not happen. So the British are doomed to a life under Sharia law. That’s not so bad for us, is it? It won’t happen here, will it? Well, we may rethink that when the UK’s nuclear arsenal falls under Muslim control. There is no good news in any of this.
Alex Smythe says
Not just the UK’s nuclear arsenal, but also the formidable French nuclear arsenal, perhaps even sooner.
Gart says
The UK has prevented over 12 planned attacks in the last two years…..
You want to ban Islam do you? So you you want the state to police thoughts……
I’m British and some days I feel the sky is falling in, then I read posts like yours and I don’t despair quite as much.
Bill W. says
How about a ban are importing any more? How about deporting known terrorist instead of waiting around .How about have people listen to the services in the “places of Holy worship” that call for murder and mayham. If I call for murder I should be arrest except if I am Islamic “holy man” then it is free speech. If I call Jews monkeys and Christians dogs I am a bigot except if I am a Islamic “holy man”. If my holy books call for the keeping of slaves, wife beating, murder, thief ,I am a following an evil way of life, except if I am Islamic it is my way to heaven.
quota raven says
To Gart, who sez, “You want to ban Islam do you? So you you want the state to police thoughts……”
In fairness to Monty, I’m all for robust intelligence gathering, and a case can be made for keeping an eye on what is being encouraged in the Islamic community via the Qur’an; legal and/or police action are appropriate when threats and, plans to blow things up are generated by the doctrines that encourage and, indeed, lead to criminal, terrorist actions, don’t you think? Like blowing up children at a concert, or trying to bomb families gathered in Portland, OR,to celebrate the annual Christmas tree lighting… (this plan was thwarted by the FBI)
In any case, I think Monty was being theoretical, not seriously proposing that the Islam religion be outlawed. Basically, such a proposal is a throw-away. He goes on to forecast a pretty bleak future.
Cheers!
quota raven
shortfattexan says
The US Constitution guarantees its citizens the right to practice any religion they want, as long as they obey the law, and I for one do not wish to change that.
But that doesn’t mean we need to participate in our own destruction. US citizens have a right to their own religion, but non-citizens do not have the right to enter our country. Here’s what I think we should do.
Immediately dismiss all Muslims from Government service, both military and civilian. This first step is necessary in order to ensure the remaining steps are carried out correctly.
Require visas for all non-US citizens entering the country, regardless of nationality. One of the questions on the visa application needs to be “Religion”. Then, deny visas to all Muslims unless there is an extremely good reason to let them in. And by “extremely good reason” I mean a significant, tangible benefit to the United States. And if someone is a citizen of a Muslim country, and they claim to be a non-Muslim, DON’T just take their word for it. Do a little investigating – if they claim to be an atheist, but they were attending mosque last month, we don’t need them in this country. Same thing for any visa applicant who was born in a Muslim country, regardless of what country they are now a citizen of. Likewise anyone with an Arabic name, or anyone whose parents fall into the above categories. Don’t just assume they are telling the truth, look into their claims. This will drastically increase the amount of time required to process visa applications: so be it – you don’t have a right to enter our country.
Require all non-citizens who currently have a long-term visa to re-apply, and use the above criteria. Muslim non-citizens with dependents who are US citizens need to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis: if they’ve ever been involved a crime more serious than a speeding ticket, they need to leave, regardless of how many dependents they have.
Keep a close watch on all mosques, madrasas, and “Islamic centers” in the US. Hold them accountable for what they are preaching. Pay attention to who attends – if a non-citizen (who claimed to be a non-Muslim) shows up at a mosque, then they lied on their visa application – they need to be deported.
I know – none of that is ever going to happen. Our leaders would rather let us die than risk being labeled “intolerant”. But if we don’t start taking real action, real soon, things are going to get very, very bad here in America.
quota raven says
To Shortfattexan – I’m pretty crazy about the US Constitution myself, and I agree with everything you say above, including the sadly urgent last paragraph.
In 1993, after the first attempt to blow up the World Trade Center, the NYPD kept a close eye on the activities and preachings of mosques and imams they found “iffy” in NYC…and even in NJ!
But then there was quite a flap about it, and although I can’t recall the details, I think it was about “profiling” (a perfectly legitimate police tool for catching criminals), and I believe it happened while the super-lefty, super-stupid David Dinkins was mayor. Dinkins is a perfect example of a politician who can’t think beyond his nose and is willing to put local citizens’ lives at risk in the service of political correctness. I hate to think what is being advocated/practiced under the current mayor.
Nice, clearly written and organized post, Sharpshortfattexan. Thank you.
Cheers!
quota raven
Aloha Akbar says
Gart, l think most people here would like to see islam banned in ALL western nations.
In Russia the peaceful Jehovah’s Witnesses have just been banned for being a dangerous, extreme sect…. Not a peep out of anyone.
Imagine the uproar if they rightfully banned Islam.
To hell with the PC brigade.
Sometimes amputating the leg is necessary to save the body.
Tom Davis says
“Monday night’s attack was carried out by a lone suspect, but officials are trying to figure out who knew about the attack before hand and if there was a network of people helping.”
If there was a network of people helping, then the attack was not carried out by a lone suspect.
Besides their inability to honestly report on jihad, these can’t even use English properly to describe the facts of a crime.
Tom Davis says
Besides their inability to honestly report on jihad, these ‘journalists’ can’t even use English properly to describe the facts of a crime.
david Heatherington says
This comment really made me feel I was not on a different planet. Media reports and political statements always start with we will stand together ,we will not be divided and then we get a new hate crime law just in case we object to being killed by those evil people . I fell sorry for my fellow BRITISH CITIZEN at 73 years old my days are numbered sadly my grand children have got a fight on there hand to regain control of our countruy
Donna says
The terrorists whole family must be thrown out of England. The terrorist’s full network of friends must be thrown out of England. The Terrorists mosque must be dismantled. The terrorists ideology of hate must be banned from England. No way …. no how….all of these people did not know what was coming. No way …. no how the whole of the muslim community did not play a part. Not a peep from the muslim community anywhere in the world. Not a peep from that Islamic mayor that sits in London. Muslims are intent on jihad…whether they actively participate in terror or cheer behind closed door they are all implicated. It is pure evil and it is coming for us all.
quota raven says
Thank you, Robert. This info is exaqctly what I was waiting for, and I read it first HERE! Of course. Cheers! qr
quota raven says
Make that “exactly”. I will stay tuned, of course, for more details as they are unearthed and reported by JW. qr
RichardL says
Paul, the mandatory minimum sentence in the UK for running around with a pistol/revolver is 10 years in prison.
Mak says
Yet there is no punishment for running around with an even more dangerous weapon: A Quran?
WW says
Right on!!
TL says
So make a shiv.
David M says
I just heard on News Radio there is on average “one arrest per day in Britain terror related.” That is mind blowing, it should be front page news & the biggest discussion point in Britain. Of course, the BBC then went on to blame the lack of police resources instead of Muslim immigration for the Manchester bombing, & didn’t mention Islam.
How can anyone be surprised at this Manchester bombing, the surprising thing is it doesn’t happen more often.
RichardL says
you find that statistic mind-blowing? It is only 400 per year simply because they let people like Salman Abedi run around. If they would really arrest all islamic terrorists they would have a lot of work on their hands.
I think in Germany, they have 5000 REGISTERED Taliban alone. Guess how many of them are in police custody?
Bill W. says
Deport them to SA, have Trump hold up arms deal unless they take these “Islamics ” in.
Aloha Akbar says
Too sad for words.
Not sure if appropriate but here’s a patriots remake of Sounds of Silence:
http://youtu.be/NVIexgHsReI
WW says
Not only appropriate but should be on the news and taught in the schools.
Dennis says
The Brits have become mediocre
Most likely they will send this muslim darling to jail where he will convert english malcontents to Islam
quota raven says
To Dennis – who sez “Most likely they will send this muslim darling to jail where he will convert english malcontents to Islam”
I doubt it. Unless they send him in pieces…he blew himself up.
Cheers!
quota raven
David M says
Yeah. they found his bottom half only, his top half was somewhere else. I’m guessing they found I.D. on him as well.
Keys says
They found his bottom half ?
Does that count as a beheading so he won’t be able to get into paradise ?
My guess is that the experts at Al Azhar University will rule, or have ruled, that since his head is still attached to his top half he can be considered good enough for Islamic paradise and the 72 virgins, etc.
Ibrahim Itace Muhammad, can you clarify please.
quota raven says
To David M and Keys – JW is the place to be. I’m listening to NPR news on the radio, and they just had a longish interview with their reporter “in Manchester” and he spent quite a while explaining why it might take a while to identify the bomber, since he blew himself up. Fogbound? Lazy reporter?
Meanwhile, I’ve known for a couple of hours not only his name, but that they found the bottom half of him and he may have had his wallet in his pocket. LOL!!! Like I said, this is the place to be!
Cheers!
quota raven
dumbledoresarmy says
My guess is that if he was known to authorities, they might have had his DNA sample – and certainly his mugshot – already on record.
Also: the UK has CCTV footage pretty nearly all over. So they may well have footage of the bloke with his bomb vest or backpack strolling into the location where he blew himself up … they might even, depending on where the cameras were, footage of him before, during and after he detonated.
Or if the explosion itself blew out the nearby cameras, you’d still have the ones a little further back, recording him as he strolled toward his selected Place of Detonation. If they’ve been surveilling him already, they’d have mug shots.
concerned canadian says
thank you England for letting us in and giving us welfare.
Here is how we repay you ….BOOM
Damn I hate Islam
Victimlesscriminal says
Thanks for being a reliable voice that seems to beat the national media to the actual news time after time. Or, to put it more acurately, that you state as openly as you can the facts that the British media state as politically correct as they can or not at all.
Benedict says
“a lone suspect” – an expression fraught with melancholy and tragic consequences.
Jerry says
“…but officials are trying to figure out who knew about the attack before hand and if there was a network of people helping.”
The “network” of people helping this terrorist are the millions of muslims living by the same violent creed. They are the ones that give credence to the actions of the terrorists. If you have an entire culture living by an ideology built on supremacist ideas then terrorism and war are an implied necessity. These aren’t lone wolves, these killers are the product of muslims’ 1400 year quest for religious supremacy. I swear, if Putin were to change “communism” to “really nice religion” the left would welcome his army with open arms. Hitler did it all wrong, he didn’t need bombs and gas chambers. Just create a murderous creed in the name of religion and you can conquer the world.
Irene says
its very frightening for people going out anywhere, no one is safe. why pick on youngsters they were out for an evening of enjoyment which ended in tragedy. R.I.P. to all who lost there lives.
Angie b says
If he was known from the terrorist watchlist why dont they get all the others that is on the list & ship them out
billybob says
I think it’s time to invoke the War measures Act. Round up the thousands of potential terrorists the police have been following around at tremendous expense and consumption of resources and put them in concentration camps. Now with the manpower freed up finally they will be able to go around to every mosque and arrest the radical leaders, shut down the madrassas, and all the clandestine Sharia courts for a start. Mosques found to harbour terrorist sentiment must be closed. All suspected Muslim gang members must be rounded up as well, but put into holding pens separated from the suspected terrorists.
The more that are put into concentration camps, the more resources that will be freed up, and the more every day Britains will finally be able to breath a little freer. Finally, after perhaps 22,000 of these scum are safely behind bars or barbed wire, there must be a long pause for reflection. Where to go from here? What is to be the future of Britain? How can Britain be assured a future free from terrorism and crime? A Britain where democracy and Western values will reign supreme?
Mak says
Just to do the math here: 22,000 Muslims is 0.7% of the Brittish Muslim population (using a conservative estimate). It’s statistical noise at this point. If you were to really follow through with your plan it would simply result in the next “batch” getting primed for more Jihad.
The ideology will simply breed more terror. While I agree that the terrorists (Muslims) must be stopped in any way possible if the ideology isn’t stopped first there will simply be more and more terrorists (Muslims) created during this process.
Jerry says
…there will simply be more and more terrorists (Muslims) created during this process.
That’s a reasonable inference with 1400 years of history to back it up. As long as muslims continue to value their violent supremacist ideology as divine truth we’ll always have islamic terrorism. That’s the controlling power of religion, that’s why muslims terrorize and murder non-muslims, because their “religion” tells them to.
“As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” ~the muslim god.
Richard says
This verse references God’s wrath on the people who disbelieved in Jesus. The passage does not endorse Muslims to commit violence. Here, read the entire passage in its context.
3:55 [Mention] when God said, “O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you [in submission to God alone] superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.
3:56 And as for those who disbelieved, I will punish them with a severe punishment in this world and the Hereafter, and they will have no helpers.”
3:57 But as for those who believed and did righteous deeds, He will give them in full their rewards, and God does not like the wrongdoers.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The ideology will simply breed more terror
And breed more Moslems. It’s self-perpetuating. Holy Prophet Mohammed set up the best ever perpetual motion machine. Think about it: communism started in the 1840s, Islam got its start in 610 AD.
Donna says
Round up all Muslims and return them to their lands. They have no business being in any western nation. That hate everything we stand for. They will smile to your face as their sons stab you in the back. They are taught to hate. The entire world has been terrorized by these dogs of satan.
Efi says
its NOT the UK Muslims, rather ARABS WHO LIVE IN THE UK and other parts of western Europe and carry out these monsters terror attacks. So if there is anything to learn and act on is to identify the Arabs as the route of this problem and then deport the families of those associated with terror
Tom says
It’s time for men and women who cherish their children and their freedom to stand up and be counted in this war that we never wanted but which has been thrust upon us by delusional left wing politicians around the globe.
If our political leaders had not been so WILFULLY blind to the subversion of the Muslim Brotherhood and the funding and building of mosques by the Saudi’s which were later filled with their wahabbi hatred and supremicist ideology then perhaps horror like the killing of children would have been avoided and we would not be forced to defend ourselves against the barbarians at the gates and in our midst.
It is time for good people to take a stand against this radical ideology of Islam and replace those appeasers now in power with leaders who have eyes open to exactly who and what we are being forced to fight.
Info4Uall says
Just so you are all aware:
The slaphead conspiracy idiot CHRIS SPIVEY (who was convicted of harrassing the family of murdered soldier Lee Rigby)…..
He is already writing a long article claiming this attack is a HOAX and that all witnesses on TV are CRISIS ACTORS.
Go see his website and read the comments under his latest dumb article….His followers are already drooling over this latest atrocity….
Richard Paulsen says
Wondering how many more victims of islamic cowards there will be? Till the world reacts profoundly.
10.000? 100.000? 280.00? As many as victims during WW1 or WW2 or both together? Limitless?
Increases the more muslims there are in a country and the numbers growing both in Europe and globally.
When will politicians and voters react?
So far the number of attacks and victims just growing although so much already happened.
People forgetting after a few days.
How many more victims? When will there be an end to it? How will it end? Will there be an end?
Lots of good persons wondering.
Tom says
Most people are pathetic …. they will just tut and spew out platitudes of support for the victims and then go about their lives as if it was just one more day. UNTIL it directly affects them they will continue to support and vote for the type of politician that got us in this mess.
As I have said here numerous times it is the left wing politicians who are the ones to whom our anger and frustration must be directed, for it is their WILFUL blindness that has allowed radical Islam to gain a strong foothold in our countries.
It is they that we must harangue and pressure and eventually replace with leaders who have eyes wide open to the imminent threat of radical Islam.
Richard Paulsen says
Agree. Just between some 17-26% (12,8% in election 2014)as most for opposition party here in Sweden. Almost the same in every country in Europe.
Doing the best they can. Strange not getting more support. Media are such liars.
quota raven says
Sorry to hear that, Richard Paulsen. Thank you for posting.
Cheers!
quota raven
quota raven says
…Make that “Skol!” )))))))qr
Tom says
Keep fighting and make these issues high profile and write numerous letters and emails to your politicians.
NEVER surrender to apathy, keep pushing for action from your fellow citizens and politicians. It is the squeaky wheel that gets the grease not the quiet one.
Good luck to you in Sweden. A hard fight but anything worth having is always worth fighting for.
Freedom … never let it go.
American Pragmatism says
Thank you JihadWatch for true coverage of this war against “non-believers.” The MSM cannot be trusted to give us accurate news and are as much interested in portraying false victimhood and whitewashing the attackers as they are in providing accurate information.
quota raven says
To American Pragmatasm, who sez “The MSM cannot be trusted to give us accurate news and are as much interested in portraying false victimhood and whitewashing the attackers as they are in providing accurate information.”
MSM and all small local newspapers are interested in advertising revenues and maintaining a readership to sell those ads. Ditto TV. Providing accurate information? RFLMAO. Waaaay down on the priorities list.
Cheers!
quota raven
DJ says
What a fantastic UK Media facility we have.in the UK ??????????
We can read all the statement which ISIS makes but we UK folk are blocked totally from commenting on the MANCHESTER ATROCITY
Ed Lee says
You will notice the reaction of the London and New York stock exchanges in the aftermath of the Manchester jihad bombing; they are flat, just another ho-hum day. The business news feeds contain very little about the attack. This is because national and international business leaders and investors view Islamic jihad terrorism as trivial. These are the people who hold and control most of the money in the world, and therefore most of the power. Trump, Putin, May, Macron, Trudeau, etc. do very little without getting permission from big business. The question is, why does big business think they can tempt Muslims with money when Allah makes it quite clear in the Qur’an that amassing earthly wealth is extremely sinful, and that man’s primary purpose on earth is to prove his worthiness, according to Allah’s rules, to enter paradise? The destruction of the World Trade Center did not cause big business to take the jihad threat seriously. Neither have the thousands of smaller scale attacks since 9/11. How much more carnage has to take place before the big money issues the orders to have it stopped?
davej says
Oh calm down everyone, it was just (another) “incident”. Only 22 innocents were killed, think how many escaped unhurt, so it’s only a tiny minority, like a lighting strike you know, nothing we can do about that. Puke.
They knew about this bastard and did NOTHING. That is a monumental failure and dereliction of duty. Throw “the authorities” out and all the Muslims with them.
Ali Bey says
Can,nt us yet see a photo of this chap?
Aloha Akbar says
“Lone Wolf attack”
Yeah right.
Here’s a way to find out how complicit the entire muslime community is:
Run an advertising campaign to “dob in a terrorist” ie ask all Muslims to ANONYMOUSLY call a special hotline phone number if they see, hear or suspect that anyone in their community might be up to something nefarious.
$100 says you will never get a phone call… even if you offer a reward.
Arthur says
>>Monday night’s attack was carried out by a lone suspect, but officials are trying to figure out who knew about the attack before hand and if there was a network of people helping.
More doublespeak from the authorities.
The attack was carried out by a lone suspect. Police are looking for any additional lone suspects who may have been in a network of lone suspects working together to plan and execute further lone attacks. If you alone have any information about other lone suspects who are planning attacks, you are urged not to tell anyone or you will face arrest for belonging to a criminal gang of islamophobes.
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim responsible for Manchester jihad attack identified as Salman Abedi, known to authorities
…………………….
How many other ticking time bombs–aka pious Muslims–are “known” to British authorities?
peace says
This will go on unless there is curb on some radical teaching held in mosques by radical preachers and online preaching too.
Tommy says
The Manchester atrocity is one huge intelligence and law enforcement failure. There are no lone wolves, no Muslim killers who are completely off the radar.That this madman posed a threat was well known. It is complete nonsense to assert anything else. The UK state has totally failed in performing one of its core duties: Protecting the citizens of the United Kingdom. Why, if you know, and by that I mean the UK intelligence community and the government, as all the media reports, that there are some 3,000 potential Muslim killers at liberty, do you not remove these people from the community? Is that supposed to somehow reassure us? Are we to think that 3,000 is not that large a number? You keep talking about all the attacks that were supposedly foiled – no evidence, just claims that are never substantiated. What is indisputable is that the UK authorities knew very very well that the Libyan madman in Manchester posed a threat and did absolutely nothing about it. The children who died could have lived if you had only acted in a timely and competent manner.