Coexist with that. What better way to show one’s horror at the Manchester jihad massacre than to wear a shirt showing the word “love” spelled out using various weapons as letters?
Is this niqabbed Muslima a moderate? Is her shirt moderate, or extremist? Was she radicalized on the Internet (where, presumably, she bought the shirt, since no one would sell such a thing among the peaceful and benign Muslim community in Britain, right?)? Did anyone in Britain notice or care about her shirt, which, given the context, seems unwise to ignore?
Channel 4 has pulled this segment, which is full of the usual finger-pointing and blaming of others by the Muslims who are interviewed, but the Internet remembers.
American Pragmatism says
“Radicalization never happens at mosques”
Ned Kelly says
3 words I heard from them, about the attack, “hopeful” “thought provoking” + “muslims have done nothing wrong”.
carol says
The undimmed self-deception is as astounding as it is dismaying:
Simple boy: “same everywhere…bad people in every group and all we can do is pray” [don’t forget your own sins at this opportune moment].
Smiling, smug female: “HOPE is my strongest feeling…we were all together at the vigil and only light drives out dark, only love drives out hatred” [loving us is the solution of course]
Salafist teacher: “teaching is our strongest tool” [yes, we’ve seen that]
Resentful male – “we’ve done nothing wrong” [we know, you’re a victim]
I think they’re all choosing to enjoy and adhere to/support a “religion”/way of life that literally disrespects and abuses the “other”.in ‘enshrined’ word and filthy deed. They’re brainwashed, irresponsible “groupies” and now that they’re in a free land they should be expected to make the intelligent choice and abandon this mental straight jacket that their ancestors were most likely coerced into joining.
This Breitbart reporter sees the Manchester event in another way. In his article he quotes St. Augustine of Hippo on the subject of HOPE: “St. Augustine of Hippo once said: “HOPE has two beautiful daughters. Their names are anger and courage; anger at the way things are, and courage to see that they do not remain the way they are.”
http://www.meforum.org/6716/we-cannot-carry-on-exactly-as-before
carol says
As always the excellent Dr. Bill Warner has much to say and Islamics such as those above must listen and hear:
Bill Warner Moment: The Problem of Islamic Reform
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwvDq9-
carol says
Sorry, let’s try the link below for Dr. Warner’s/Glazov Gang video (JW has likely posted it somewhere here but I don’t apologize for a repeat. I love mining the posts here and so don’t get around to spotting all the articles):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwvDq9-QwrQ
Don Foss says
At 2:45 the man he is interviewing is wearing an above-the-ankle dishdasha, which is a signal/code that says “I am Salafi.” which says all we need to know. Notice that the interviewer led with a question getting with the “tiny minority” bit, which any judge in a courtroom would have stricken as leading. Also, as a Muslim, of course he did not ask the lady about her t-shirt nor the Salafi about the symbolism of his above-the-ankle disdasha. What a puff piece that passes for honest journalism in the UK. Nothing but a bunch of taqiyya and propaganda. Manchester’s and the UKs troubles will continue.
American Pragmatism says
Threat Detect data shows those who live relatively closest to Mosques are more likely to be terrorists.
Juhani says
An extreme muslim wants to behead you. A moderate muslim hopes there is an extreme muslim who beheads you.
Glyn Davies says
Moderates only hold you down for the extremist to have his fun
Paul N Silas says
I’m shocked, shocked I tell you! Islam is the religion of Peace and love, isn’t it? (sarcasm)
I always like the saying from the Vietnam era, “Peace through superior firepower”. To paraphrase General George Smith Patton, ” You don’t win wars dying for your Country, you get the other dumb Bastards to die for their country”.
isabella van der westhuizen says
That tiny minority fringe seems to be quite big actually
isabella van der westhuizen says
All we can do is send out our thoughts and prayers to the people who are suffering
gravenimage says
We can stop Muslim immigration and monitor Mosques. That would do more good.
M says
Do the British elites really deep down think the Muslims want to be friends with them?
Dawn says
Well I have to say no snd that is my opinion . Tuat interview was a real put on thet just say things to make themselves look good
Anne Smith says
Cameron obviously did. He put one Tariq Ahmad, a Conservative politician and a Muslim who could not get himself elected to the House of Commons, into the House of Lords where he made him Minister in charge of terrorism.
You simply could not make this up!!!!!
Unfortunately the British people are paying the price for all this nonsense, not the politicians.
gravenimage says
“Minister in charge of terrorism”–that is all too appropriate…
Benedict says
Islam: the religion of duplicity. But it gets harder and harder for Muslims to keep a straight face and easier and easier for others to see it.
Benedict says
PS:
The very fact that these male Muslims didn’t tell the repulsive, mocking Muslim woman, with “love letters” stamped out as deadly weapons, to get lost show their collective glee and contentment by the terror-attack.
High Hopes says
The Channel four news coverage has provided so much insight into how sick the UK has become. At the vigil, a group of young muslim volunteers, enjoying a party atmosphere, delighted when a brother shows up, hugs, smiles. Contrast that with, the mother so broken by her daughters murder, she shuffled, unable to raise her head, broken in every sense of the word. This segment, I turned off when I heard a muslim man say, we don’t need to do anything more, you shouldn’t be asking us to do anything. That’s right, you invited yourselves into a peaceful country, and now that your bloody doctrine is killing it’s daughters and sons, you are insulted at the thought you should have to explain why! This attack is the nail in the coffin for me, if there is no awakening after this, it is goodnight England.
gravenimage says
Yes–there vigils have become occasions for Muslims to *celebrate* the Jihad terror attacks.
I cannot imagine what it would be like to lose someone to these barbarians and then have them show up to the memorial to gloat. *Ugh*.
carol says
That quick, heavily-accented spiel and perverted “humour” yells British convert and ideologue to me – a self-appointed Head clown of the Islamic Propaganda Committee lying in wait for her turn at the mike. Did someone say the nice reporter was a Muslim?
High Hopes says
The young Libyan man seemed to be a tad uncomfortable having to say he was unaware of any radicalisation at the mosque. Halal porkies!
no_one says
They love weapons, destruction and death.
Ed Lee says
Love, eh? Here is the kind of peace Muslims want to bring to the world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3sxDlDxzac
Arthur says
It is frightening how much Islam versus the world reflects fictional stories of good versus evil!
carol says
Seems to put the kibosh on “moral relativism” doesn’t it?
carol says
I didn’t know Stephen Spielberg was an ISLAMOPHOBE!
carol says
Oops…credits should go to George Lucas!
JW_Reader says
What disgusting human being. All covered up in black! Looks like a vending machine of suicide bombers!
Agustinus Daniel says
Where is Anjem Chouwdury??
David says
Most Muslims are not terrorist but most terrorist are Muslims!
Renee says
Wonder how they spell “peace”. Anyway, this shows that words from this woman cannot be interpreted according to our dictionary. I bet many words in the taqiyya dictionary are spelled in similar fonts.
carol says
Renee…they actually have three versions of the word “peace” (and anyone signing Peace Agreements had better take heed):
The THREE Arabic words for “Peace”
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/009345.html
John Hawk says
The woman with the peace-loving shirt looks like a character from a Stephen King story. “Children of the Qorn” perhaps?
In addition to being demonic, Islam is just plain weird.
Voytek Gagalka says
Brought to you by “Ministry of Love,” courtesy of Orwell from his native country of UK. If that would be possible, he surely would twist his body right now in his grave in utter disgust and disbelief. He tried to warn fellow compatriots what is coming, apparently in vain. Ditto J. R. R. Tolkien (seems that invaders from Land of Mordor finally have had conquered them now).
gravenimage says
UK’s Channel 4 interviews Manchester Muslima wearing shirt with LOVE spelled out with guns, knives and grenades
…………………………
Well, that just says it all, doesn’t it?
Not long after 9/11, I saw an astonishing interview–that time by a clueless Infidel journalist–with a group of men and boys in Indonesia or Malaysia. All of the men and boys were asserting that 9/11 wasn’t Islamic, and that real Muslims would never do such a thing. The journalist was swallowing this Taqiyya whole.
But what made this so bizarre was that one of the young men was wearing a t-shirt emblazoned with Osama bin Laden’s face leering over the burning twin towers. This guy was also saying that 9/11 was not something Muslims would approve of.
I kept waiting for the journalist to say something–he could not possibly have missed this. But he said nothing. It was, certainly up until that time, the most bizarre thing I had ever seen on the news.
Notice that the main purpose of this interviewer from Channel 4 appears to be to provide Muslims with a platform to complain about “Islamophobia”.
At one point he even implies that the cause of violent Jihad terror attacks is “backlash” from the Infidels over Jihad terror attacks. Of course, there is no backlash–this is just more blaming of the victims of Jihad.
ermom says
Learn the Qur’an for yourselves, the Muslims are using TAQIYYA.
John Krupa says
NIKKKOB = KKK ROBES muhammedans [koran/hadith/sharia] = KKK
[Yes, I understand that niKKKob/burKKKa/etc are NOT mentioned in koran nor hadith and are not mandated officially, but, without doubt, they are emblematic as far as I am concerned of this muhammedan death cult.]
Whenever I see a muhammedan in head covering, I think of koran/hadith/sharia and then I think of KKK.
Both muhammedans and KKK DEHUMANIZE their “opponents” and thereby rationalize their irrational hate and violence.
The KKK believes that ALL minorities and Jews are sub-human … so that the KKK rationalizes persecution.
muhammedans, which adhere to koran/hadith/sharia, thereby dehumanize ALL “non-believers”, that is, they believe these kuffar are sub-human — descendants of apes and pigs — and are therefore dehumanized and are “fair game”, without limits, for persecution.
John Krupa says
RCH, correct you are about those significant differences, as I should have been more comprehensive in my basic descriptions. Thanks for pointing out that.
Here in the USA the KKK is despised regularly, almost as a cliche, and they much deserve the put-down; however, although they continue to exist these days in a reduced capacity, the put-down is mostly for their past horrendous sins; to which, as you point out correctly, mostly pale in comparison with those of the globally present death cult muhammedans.
Nonetheless, as I assume you are aware fully, the clan, even now, particularly here in the USA, evokes instantly contempt and derision. It is just surprising to me why more Americans — in fact, freedom loving people everywhere — do not approach the obvious symbols of the truly evil kuffar-hating koran/hadith/sharia with at least as much derision as which we view the clan. For me, to repeat: I see as symbolic, in the modern day muhammedan head/body coverings, similar evil anti-humanity messaging as was projected in the clan robes of the past.
Just saying.
gravenimage says
True, RCH and John. Not only is the KKK despised, but while they are disgusting racists and antisemites they do not present a violent threat anymore, and have not for some time.
billybob says
They all insisted they are “good Muslims”. They need to “teach the young more about Sharia”. They don’t seem to be the least bit aware that Islam is the problem, not the solution. There is such a thin line between a “good Muslim” and a jihadi who believes it is his duty to follow in the way of Muhammad.
What in the world must be going through these so called moderates’ minds when there is yet another brutal attack in the name of Islam? Even if they don’t read their Qurans, they must know deep down inside what lurks beneath the surface. They must feel some kind of cognitive dissonance. Especially, for example, in the case of this latest suicide bomber, they must be aware that he was pious. He had memorized the Quran. Obviously he would be a role model on some level, because certainly they are all driven by this constant fear that they are not doing enough for Allah. There is no end to his demands.
That woman in the black burka was so creepy looking. She would give you a nightmare. It was not just the word spelled out in guns, knives and grenades. Something about her body language.
Jen L. Jones says
One of this Muslima’s coreligionists has just slaughtered innocents—including children—in a calculated and cruel way, and she wears this grossly insensitive garb while she complains about the trials that her community must face, what with “Islamophobia” and all. Her lack of awareness is astounding. Has she absolutely no inkling as to how her flaunting of these violent symbols, bizarrely coupled with the taunt of “Love,” will be perceived by those in mourning?
Why did the interviewer not ask her what these images of weapons crafted into “Love” meant? He must have noticed, yet he continued on encouraging the Muslims present to wallow in their “victimization.” Since love is the hallmark of Christianity, not Islam, the purpose of this graphic is not easily deciphered; nonetheless it is offensive in the extreme.
Apparently no one present thought to quietly tell her to slip out of camera range for the sake of the much-touted community cohesion we hear about.
carol says
Isn’t it as obvious as the ISIS flag? – why it’s Allah and his devotees brand of “LOVE”!
Ashley says
Why didn’t this reporter inquire about the insensitive and cruel nature displayed by this Muslima’s “fashion statement?”
Instead, he indulged her…
If she were interviewed holding a child’s severed head in her left hand I doubt he would have blinked an eye…
Disgusting.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Ashley. In fact, he was overtly prompting these Mohammedans to play the victim.
sidney penny says
Why is Channel 4 interviewing a niqabbed Muslim woman?. Who or what is she or he?
What should or interview is it where you cannot see a person’s face?
It is bad enough with dark sunglasses.
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somehistory says
She’s proud to be a *good moslum*….She does not know the meaning of love or good.
When dressed as she is, it reminds of demons…the spirit creatures that incite people and provide ideas on how to commit ever-increasingly despicable and evil acts.
Demons are unseen unless they wish to appear as shadow creatures…many movies have depicted this….and no one could say what this human creature looks like under her black covering.
Purely demonic, through and through.
(Revelation 12 and 13)
tpog says
jihadi muslims and “good muslims” read from the same texts. There are NO passages of LOVE and COMPASSION in the “qeeran” just HATE and VIOLENCE. As has been said many times before, is it any wonder that the West has such problems with these disgusting people in light of their ideology’s texts? The West’s pols have been compromised and coerced to the point that we can forget about their doing anything to save Western democracy. There’s something about TREASON coming into play here
It’s getting to the point now that the only salvation will come from the PEOPLE to defend freedom of speech, freedom of thought and to keep our countries free of fascism. It certainly won’t come from govts
It’s to be hoped that there are people who will step up and lead us. If it continues like this I’m sure we can all see civil war in our futures.
gravenimage says
I did some digging, and the interviewer is Krishnan Guru-Murthy, who is Hindu–but who appears to be a Muslim apologist.
The official title of the above segment is “Muslim community has done nothing wrong”.
Here’s another one of his fake Muslim-victimization pieces:
“‘If we’re wearing a head scarf will we be subject to abuse?’”
https://www.channel4.com/news/if-were-wearing-a-head-scarf-will-we-be-subject-to-abuse
Meanwhile, he has endless pieces claiming that Trump supporters are violent and dangerous.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid so, RCH. We find this dangerous dhimmitude almost everywhere.
Karina says
A love of weapons?
If she truly advocated love, she would wear a shirt that doesn’t spell it out with weapons, she would show her face, and she would abandon Islam, because Islam isn’t a ‘love’ or ‘co-exist’ religion, it’s a death-cult that is hell-bent on conquering the world.
Mark A says
Islam has a concept called taqiyya which allows Muslims to lie and deceive in order to further the jihad.
This entire video is just pure taqiyya.
An Islamic fundamentalist deliberately blew himself up in a crowd of people with the intention of killing and maiming as many as possible to further the jihad. End of discussion.
kuriakose says
Watch this.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/35632786/manchester-bombing-australian-muslim-leaders-clash-over-terrorists-motive/
How one can deny all the violence, evil and savagery of islam is beyond comprehension.
Relic says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bZkp7qi9f0
David M says
Seems the bombers reason was because he was upset at how Arabs are treated in Britain.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/manchester-bomber-pleaded-forgive-me-before-killing-20170526-gwdsge.html
gravenimage says
Notice that mommy dearest could have notified British authorities about the threat from her son, but did nothing. *Ugh*.
Rufolino says
Very striking that none of these Moslems interviewed, express any sense of shame at the crimes committed In the name of their religion. This leaves me feeling nauseous. And very worried.
(Why was this segment “pulled” by the broadcaster ? Too near the truth ?)
carol says
Rufolino…probably too many complaints. Dr. Bill Warner recently pointed out an obvious “hiding in plain sight” fact – observe YouTube posts and see the overwhelming numbers who are anti-jihadists (and they are increasingly awakened and well-informed). It seems our governments and the media choose to feign stupidity and allow their citizens to pay the price.
eur says
Coexists with that!!!
rosemary hopkin says
Piss takers. No change there..
BC says
Saying there are bad people in every community is just ducking the issue and not facing the reality.
Do we hear of dozens of Christians, Hindus, Sikhs etc committing acts of terrorism and deliberately targeting innocent people of other faiths? In fact there have been tens of thousands of incidents of atrocities by Muslims since 9/11.
Why is that? Muslims need to acknowledge that it is their faith which has the problem, it is their faith which has clerics that preach hatred of other faiths and infidels every week.
eur says
Muslims create armies. No other religion does, it is jihad, it is holy war.
gravenimage says
Exactly, BC.
Bill says
My takeaway from all of this is that it reveals the cynical manipulatation of globalist media. Initially they find the “love” and moderation narrative they are pushing for public consumption. Whoops, then someone sees the T-shirt up close, and all of a sudden, that narrative is undermined and the segment is yanked. It never happened.
As for the T shirt. Big deal. Heck, I have seen “Coexist” T shirts and bumper stickers spelled in a similar fashion every single day. So if Muslima wants to wear that shirt, she can. We all know what they are about so if one of them wants to broadcast it, so what? It is the media coverup that is more of the problem.
gravenimage says
Bill wrote:
So if Muslima wants to wear that shirt, she can.
……………………
The idea that the problem here is our restricting this Muslimah’s freedom of speech is absurd. No one was suggesting that her wearing this should meet with violence.
It is just noted that she is revealing her ugly true colors, and no one can deny that.
carol says
Bill…at least “Coexist” has some pointed humor in it. “Love” is a farce (in this T-shirt context).
Tom says
Only 7% of those involved in a riot are the instigators, but they are almost always successful in getting the support of those in the rest of the crowd, which usually results in damage to property and injuries or death of bystanders.
If the majority of the crowd just left the police could easily identify the remaining agitators and arrest them, but because the crowd has a cause in common with the 7% they remain and become a “smokescreen” for the violent instigators. Thereby protecting them from the police.
The crowd is therefore responsible for the results of that riot, there are no innocent demonstrators when it turns to a riot.
That also applies to Islamic terror. Only a small percentage are willing to incite and actually carry out attacks but the vast majority become part of the movement of jihad simply because they are involved and have a common theme, Islam, and by remaining quiet about the radicals they provide the protection against arrest of the radicals. The silent muslim majority are responsible for the results of the actions of the terrorist, just as the crowd is responsible for the damage and injuries caused by the instigators of the riot.
carol says
Tom…good point that bears repetition and I’m sure many Muslims are well aware of this (and have rationalized any sense of guilt of course – I mean how can they be bad when sweet sky fairy Allah solely favors them – at least as long as they unconditionally do as he demands?).
One is always reminded of Mark 8:36 – “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”
A European says
No more appeasement, no restraint! Return the courtesy! Show up at a Muslim rally next time, wear a shirt which displays a burning mosque, a cartoon of Mohammed riddled with bullets and some US-stealth bombers circling over Mecca and Medina. And the caption says: “Don’t worry, my Muslim-born fellow citizens. We can protect you!”
Mary says
Has anybody considered that the person wearing the T-shirt was really a man dressed as a woman? It has been known to happen.
davej says
Are they not, hands down, the creepiest and most dangerous people on earth?
They need to be put down like the mad rabid dogs they are.
Frank Verderber says
I thought I was watching a Monty Pithon video. The Muslima with Burka glasses and all covered with the word love made from knives. I’ll bet it was an effeminate male who gave up sheep for Ramadon!
Tommy Peters says
Give Krishnan a break! Ask the LSE. The UK is being capitalized with Sharia finance and Political Correctness is a hint, that it is paying the piper.
On a tangent, Krishnan’s takedown of Ironman and Kill Bill is where the British-born Indian shines. Imagine running into Downey. A fan is left wondering why on earth did his Ironman scurry off Krishnan’s BBC set; and Tarantino too, with all the guns and red sauce the director puts out, Kill Bill simply unravelled when probed by a correspondent whose job description, is to probe; and you are left wondering what Downey and Tarantino missed in the Pharell and Jackson interviews, both of whom stood up to Krishnan’s incessant probing, not to mention Ayoade who had the anchor on the ropes.
Folks, back to the subject. BBC’s Channel 4 is essentially BBC, even when its sugar appears to elevate the cause of justice by exposing the bomber puppets, rather the puppeteers. Political Correctness is the reason why BBC will shy away from say, Hopkins or Robinson on this subject. The same reason Krishnan did not bring up the ‘font’ used in the four-letter word the burqa-clad lady was wearing.
Sarah says
Liars, all of them. Dangerous, deceitful snake’s lurking amongst us.
I was shopping today, in an Asian greengrocer store, it was packed with the usual variety of people you normally see there, close to maybe 100 people crammed into a store nowhere near large enough to hold us all. (Super cheap prices for fantastic quality fruit and veg, what can I say?)
Anyways, whilst perusing fennel bulbs, I saw out of the corner of my eye, two creature’s enter the store, both in the full black bedsheet getup.
My instinctive response was distrust, fear and loathing. All I could think about was getting through my shopping as fast as possible, so I could get out of that store as fast as possible.
They don’t have cooties. I’m not scared to be near Muslims who are either draped in black bedsheets, or wearing their pajamas with their feral beards rambling down their necks because they have something that might be catching. I avoid them like the metaphorical plague that they are, because being within their proximity increases my chance for ‘will I be blown up, or taken hostage’?
The actual odds of me being involved in a terror attack are statistically stupidly slim, I understand that very well. I’m just very happy to stack the deck in my favour some more and put as much physical distance between them and myself as possible.
I cannot imagine why they’d have a problem with that. These Muslims wandering around in their getup’s and screaming and shrieking about how they are the true victims here, they’re hardly going to want a Western White female who is an Atheist, anywhere near them with my loud mouth and strong views against their religion. None of these people have ever shown the slightest interest in integrating and assimilating, so ostracism from the rest of us should fit right in with their ‘I am an Island’ bullshit.
Robert says
The woman in the complete female uniform prescribed by Sharia declares that she’s a good Muslim and that others know this fact, too, therefore, doesn’t need to prove anything to anyone.
But she fails to realize that to kafirs (non-believers), her outward appearance tells a very different story. Her female uniform proves that she follows the dictates of Sharia Law, which contradicts Western values. Furthermore, her outfit is a manifestation of the Islamic worldview and values and, consequently, the Islamic way of behaving.
Westerners don’t demand that females must fully cover their bodies, including their faces!, when the go out into the public sphere. Our laws and courts don’t treat women as second class citizens. Our society doesn’t approve of female genital mutilation and honour killing. We don’t think that a husband physically beating a wife for disobedience is normal or acceptable. But Sharia Law dictates all these things, and demands that good Muslims practice them!
So, when the nice lady says she doesn’t need to prove that she’s a good person, her outfit tells us that she her way of life, sadly, is at odds with the West’s. We should take her words seriously, but take her choice of actions (her practicing of Islamic Law) even more seriously. Actions speak louder than words.
carol says
Kafirs all know that if you’re a self-described “good” Muslim you’re actually NOT a Muslim.
carol says
I guess what my comment signifies is that Allah will NOT split the baby – but this is not to favor “life” (as Solomon did), it is to favor the irrevocable, graven image tie twixt Mecca and Medina.