I suppose this man is on about the speaker or balloon that popped . pic.twitter.com/UBvcNFSKc0.
— Tommy Robinson (@TRobinsonNewEra) May 23, 2017
“This is only the beginning.”
Thanks to the feckless policies of the UK government and governments all over the West, that is undoubtedly true.
somehistory says
Until the beast is no more, there will be slaughter by these scummy dross.
roger woodhouse says
Comments in the British media now being heavily cencored.Thank goodness for jihadwatch.
roger woodhouse says
Censored
TH says
When there is a jihadi attack, I alway go directly to Jihadwath to get the real story and a proper analysis.
Alicia Sinclair says
Same here
gungadin says
Me Too !!
Dr Alan C. Clifford says
“The response of outraged imams and others is deafening. Likewise, church leaders are speaking against the Muslim menace at last.” Sorry, this is the worst kind of fake news! What scale of atrocity will have to take place for the West to wake up? Our ‘PC’ élite have betrayed us. When will they face the facts? May God have mercy upon us.
blitz2b says
Get used to it… Westerners have become calloused to jihad attacks in western nations….
Move along folks nothing to see here, just another Muslim attack. That’s all… Move on.
It’s pathetic how news of this magnitude will not captivate audiences for too long. .. They will do the flower/teddy bear/ candle/ tears thing, our leaders will tell us “… It has absolutely nothing to do with Islam”, Muslims will claim victim hood, Islamophobia will be blamed, and then all will be forgotten. Things will go back to normal. (If you can call it normal)
Last night when other news networks were bringing us this braking news CNN had a panel discussing Trumps possible collusion with Russia.
This brain dead news network surely has it’s head buried deep on the sand.
Chuck says
World leaders send the usual condemnation statements and then go back to sleep
fudge says
I live in Wigan, England, my daughter was in town today, she saw armed police and heard a lot of gunshots, I heard sirens backwards and forwards all day.
Richie says
I wonder if leftist politicians will use this as an opportunity to defend Islam, and insists ISIS has nothing to do with Islam?
no_one says
I have no doubt that we are going to hear “islamophobia” cries and that terror is part of life and we have to get used to it, move on and forget loved ones that have died.
Paul says
Never mind the dead kids : the real victim in all this is an evil and crappy
set of ideas. We all know the drill. You can never overestimate how far
down the rabbit hole slimy politicians and ‘intellectuals’ are prepared to go
with their blood soaked hands.
Paul says
@Leom,
Even then, I don’t think they’d change their ways. These are pure
sociopaths.
Richard Malone says
Nothing will be done. The grieving will hear the empty words of government and community leaders about tolerance and mutual respect. They’ll be hoping that we forget about it. The families of all these young people are subjected to a life of torment where their children died for no reason and nobody cares. Luck of the draw, wrong place at the wrong time, move on. That’s a how sick this has become.
Bruce Burleson says
The left will probably describe it as workplace violence. 😉
American Pragmatism says
or perhaps a double DUI?
gungadin says
THAT’S BEEN DONE QUITE FREQUENTLY BEFORE !!
David M says
Jeremy Corbyn has already sent out a tweet about it. Hey Jeremy, this is 100% the fault of politicians like you, with your failed multiculturalism & lies about islam being peaceful. Tony Blair opened the gates to “rub the nose of Britain in diversity.” This will happen again & again in Europe.
Kenton says
You are correct.
Ela says
Islam is peaceful. Look at biblical old testament times…much more violent. Im a christian living in turkey and im sick of such comments and racist beliefs. Its views like this that start crazy sects in all religion.
Bruce Crichton says
Islam is totalitarian and genocidal.
Enjoy your whisky and bacon.
Ghe de la Scularie says
If you are a christian, you look at the new testament. Old testament is OLD.
And new testament is totally opposing the quran.
chuck de gaul says
Ela, Ela, Ela, Islam is a savage blood lusting cult. The Lord,the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, commands us to not hide and wait to ambush. The kingdoms destroyed were evil, by the gods/idols they worshiped. Idols that could neither hear or speak and made by mans hand. Passing their child through the fire, sacrificing their children to their god. Hmmmm, Racist? Crazy sects in all religion. RELIGION: Mans search for god. CHRISTIANITY: GODS search for man.
gravenimage says
Ela wrote:
Islam is peaceful.
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You say this on a thread about how Muslims slaughtered 22 people–mostly children–at a concert. How grotesque.
More:
Look at biblical old testament times…much more violent.
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Firstly, this is highly questionable. Secondly, surely you are aware that the Old Testament ended more than two thousand years ago?
Pious Muslims are slaughtering people all over the world *today*?
More:
Im a christian living in turkey and im sick of such comments and racist beliefs.
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In that case, you realize that just a hundred years ago there were well over two million Christians in Turkey, and today there is just a small surviving remnant of no more than 160,000 remaining today.
What happened? The Armenian Genocide happened, where Muslim Turks also targeted Greeks, Assyrians, and Levantines–all Christians. Some were able to escape, but most were slaughtered.
And, grimly, this violence against Christians there is *not* a thing of the past. Armenian newspaper editor Hrant Dink was murdered ten years ago:
“I shot the non-Muslim”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/i-shot-the-non-muslim
And Muslim authorities treated this murderer as a hero for murdering a Christian:
“Fury after police pictured posing with Dink murder suspect”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/02/fury-after-police-pictured-posing-with-dink-murder-suspect
And there is nothing “racist” about noting this–Islam is not a race. Christians in Turkey, for instance, are ethnically little different from Muslims there. In fact, most Muslims in Turkey are descended from Christians or Jews who were forced to convert.
There are Jihadists of all ethnicities. Islam is an ideology, not a race.
More:
Its views like this that start crazy sects in all religion.
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Are you claiming that concern over Islamic violence is what causes Islamic violence, or are you claiming that there are Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and others who are mass slaughtering kids at concerts and other such atrocities?
Either claim is quite false. Islam–not some sect of Islam–teaches violence. The main Friday prayers curse Jews and Christians. This is orthodox Islam. The Qur’an teaches violence, and the “Prophet” Muhammed himself was a violent warlord.
And your implication that Christianity is also violent is false. Jesus was not a warlord–nor was he a pedophile, a slaver, a rapist, or a mass-murderer. Surely as a Christian you know this.
I’m sure as a Christian in Dar-al-Islam you feel frightened at the thought of criticizing anything about the violence of Islam–lest you suffer it yourself. Shouldn’t this itself give you pause?
Miss Cdw says
If a white Christian walks into a building and kills people and this happens all over America – we don’t say ALL Christian’s are bad, we say the crime was committed by a crazy person who just so happens to be Christian. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/7dd3ae6b4611
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charleston_church_shooting
These attacks are meant to divide us – divide and concur.
Don’t be so fickle.
somehistory says
If someone claiming to be Christian walks in and kills, other people claiming to be Christian do not celebrate and applaud the murders, but condemn them. And no where, not one verse, in the Bible commands such actions, but instead, commands people be treated with love and kindness and for Christians to let God be the Judge and mete out punishment.
These acts aren’t to “divide” but to force compliance with islum’s evil code of slavery to satan.
Don’t be so foolish. Wise up. True Christians do not murder. True moslums not only murder, but celebrate it and lust for it and reward it.
LilyDarcey says
To Miss Cdw …Are you defending Islam? I hope not.
Violence in the Bible revolved around a specific time and place and was directed against a specific people. It is not open ended as in Islam. At no time did such violence go on to become standardized or codified into Jewish law (i.e., the Halakha).
This is where Islamic violence is unique. Though similar to the violence of the Old Testament-commanded by God and manifested in history-certain aspects of Islamic violence have become standardized in Islamic law (i.e., Sharia) and apply at all times.
Thus while the violence found in the Koran is in fact historical, its ultimate significance is theological, or, more specifically, doctrinal. Consider the following Koranic verses, better known as the “sword-verses”:
Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the pagans wherever you find them-take them [captive], besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due [i.e. submit to Islam], then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful (K 9:5).
Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger [i.e. do not adhere to Islamic law], nor acknowledge the religion of Truth [i.e. Islam], from the people of the book [i.e. Jews and Christians], until they pay tribute with willing submission, and feel themselves utterly subdued (K 9:29).
There is no true Christian in modern time committing acts of violence against none Christians in the world, in fact, Jesus never commanded it in the New Testament.
http://www.sullivan-county.com/religion/violence.htm
gravenimage says
Miss Cdw wrote:
If a white Christian walks into a building and kills people and this happens all over America – we don’t say ALL Christian’s are bad, we say the crime was committed by a crazy person who just so happens to be Christian.
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Christianity does not teach violence, and as Somehistory notes, Christians do not celebrate such atrocities. In fact, Dylann Storm Roof was convicted of his crime and sentenced to death.
Does that sound as though Christians applauded his actions? In fact, there was not a single church, let alone any denomination, that supported his atrocity.
Dylann Storm Roof’s motivation was not Christian, but Neo-Nazi. Moreover, his victims were Christians–he shot up a church–so the idea that he was acting in the name of Christianity makes even less sense.
As for this happening “all over America”, this is ridiculous. There have, however, been over 30,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11, perpetrated on the texts and tenets of Islam, and on the model of the vicious “Prophet” Muhammed.
More:
These attacks are meant to divide us – divide and concur.
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No, they aren’t. The purpose of Jihad terror is to compel Infidels to submit to Islam. You seem to be well on your way yourself.
More:
Don’t be so fickle.
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What is “fickle” about condemning horrors like the slaughter of kids at a concert?
This seems consistent with basic human decency to me.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Many people don’t want to face the reality of Islam. They don’t know the teachings or history. And as a result they make false comparisons to other religions. And in the lies about Islam being a religion and the deception continues. If people understood Islam is a theocracy and it trying to impose it laws on everyone people would react differently.
Tom Thumb says
Today is the 4th anniversary of the Lee Rigby beheading. COINCIDENCE?
Greyhound Fancier says
A guest on Fox News made that connection, and Shepard Smith argued with him about thinking that the attack was mohammedan terrorism.
Mr. Smith also didn’t know enough about Drummer Lee Rigby to pronounce “fusilier” correctly, but naturally Mr. Smith is an expert on mohammedanism and mohammedans.
Jack Diamond says
Smith is a well known ignoramus on the subject of Islam and never misses a chance to prove it.
PRCS says
Dr. Tim Furnish (MahdiWatch) was told–prior to his appearance on Smith’s program a few years ago–NOT TO BASH THE RELIGION.
Truth Seeker says
This is the best biblical explanation I’ve heard of what is happening between the left and Islam and why Islam will eventually destroy the left. It begins in Genesis and ends in Revelation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBcZW-XGjZA
Catherine Jones says
This is true ? I agree!
Graham says
Thanks Truth Seeker – yes definitely worth watching!
Joanne says
Thanks for sharing this link ??
Very interesting… didn’t tell anything I didn’t already know. But great to see and hear conformation of what I already suspected ?
lloyd jordan says
considering it was the right wing yanks that created ISIS i think you have gone down the wrong track, blame bush cheney and co
Bruce Crichton says
Considering that isis is adhering to Islam, you are lying
gravenimage says
Right–“right wing yanks” are pious Muslims who want to found a Caliphate on orthodox Shari’ah…
Sandra hudson says
The same here in Australia we are next!!
kessler says
They will and they are.
I am active for 9 years on a big UK forum and frequently participate in discussions about these frequent Jihad attacks. It’s a good way to get a sense of the attitude from a broad range of people.
Every time the pattern is the same.
1) Shock horror – have you heard?!?
2) Could be an accident
3) Could be yet another terror incident
4) Let’s not jump to conclusions
5) Confirmed it’s terror
6) Nothing to do with Islam, he is not really muslim, he is mentally ill, he is a petty criminal, he drank alcohol, he was a loner, he came from a poor family, he was brainwashed, he never went to a mosque, his friends said he was not devout
7) Video surface of perpetrator using Quranic verses to justify his actions
8) He is abusing and hijacking a peaceful religion, all religions have extremists, remember Breivik, KKK, and the abortion fanatics? Remember the Crusades and the Inquisition?
9) Politicians and muslims leaders condemn the attack and assure us the attack has nothing – NOTHING to do with Islam.
11) Politicians and muslims leaders call for unity to fight terror – pretend our society is not affected while further concession are made to accommodate Islam.
10) Head in the sand until next attack when – once again – it is time to defend the religion of peace.
roger woodhouse says
Dont forget ‘he was a lone wolf’Not forgetting the 1.5 billion muslims who support his action world wide
Graham says
Sadly very true Kessler.
Mark T says
That is so true and well laid out that I just copied it and saved it. Thanks.
Denny Lee Penticoff says
Superb summation of the PC brainwashing manifesto for stage two of the new Islamic Conquest. A true “Dark Age” approaches unless this supremacist ideology is exterminated.
The pejorative “denier” launched at climate change pragmatists belongs to the West’s rose-colored-glasses viewpoint on Islam.
I intend to share your summary on my FB page.
Thanks.
kessler says
Thanks – please swap the numbering 10 and 11 🙂
gravenimage says
All grimly true, Kessler.
RationalVoice says
During the broadcasts for the election there was someone from the Liberal Democrats quite unnecessarily in the course of the conversation stating we need to import more “refugees” squeezing it in as he was out of time.
I certainly won’t be voting for that party. They also advocate legalising cannabis which as every sensible person knows is dangerous in itself and is a gateway to the drug culture and even more dangerous chemicals
gravenimage says
Video: Islamic State jihadi claims responsibility for Manchester Ariana Grande concert attack
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I’m shocked, shocked–oh, wait, no I’m not…
PRCS says
Won’t be shocked to learn that the motive may never be known, either.
MacUalraig says
Hmmm, indeed. Seems to be the pattern.
Charli Main says
Police and intelligence services will be looking for a motive for this attack but THEY ARE SURE THAT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSLIMS AND ISLAM.
They suspect that MENTAL ILLNESS is the reason for this atrocity.
Kenny says
But don’t you know ‘the motive remains unclear’! As it does every time. Either that or ‘financial greed, disadvantaged lifestyle, mummy didn’t love him’, anything but the truth!
So it’s mum’s and little girls attacked this time; how brave! And the police are trying to figure out if the bomber had a wider network? I’d say there’s a good chance of that; a wider network of approximately 2 billion!
Graham says
Yes and that’s just in Europe!! Including the Marxist, leftist crowd who also support jihadi attacks.
Gavin says
Suicide bomb! I at least one of them converted jihadi bastards is dead. I send my love to all involved
StacyGirl says
Well Mayor McMuzz said there’d be days like this in a big city. God save us from these devils.
Roderick MacUalraig says
He sure did! Blood on his hands this. And on the hands of the rest of the sad-sacks and traitorous weaklings in the UK government.
Michael says
i live in Australia but i originally come from Cardiff, Wales i think people like Tommy Robinson are patriots
Michael says
when will the british stop muslims coming into the UK?
Michael says
The fact that the Jihadi terrorist targeted a concert where young girls at a pop concert is appalling what will Theresa May do to bring Just to the families of the innocent young victims
MacUalraig says
I love him. The Lion of Luton. A true defender.
Paul says
Tokyo has a population of 13 million, yet they don’t have any of these
problems. Strange that. Can’t think why that may be. Let me ponder…
gravenimage says
Yes–very little immigration into Japan, and very few Muslims.
Paul says
They must think Western countries are crazy. And they’d be right.
gravenimage says
Malik wrote:
Just left Japan on business. I saw a couple of Mosque (sic) in Tokoy (sic). Not as much as London or New york (sic) of couse (sic), but Islam is there.
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Yes–Islam is there. But so far, Islam is in Japan in such small numbers that Malik’s pious coreligionists are not launching Jihad terror attacks there–not yet, anyway.
More:
Japan has a totally different idea of nationality and immigration but not purposely keeping Muslims out.
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Japan has low immigration in general, and is far from regions where Muslims have historically invaded–so they have not suffered Jihad horrors like that in Manchester–not yet.
Notice that Malik has not a word of condemnation for his pious coreligionists slaughtering Infidel children in Britain, though.
But then, why would he? This is orthodox Islam. *Ugh*.
Georg says
Non-racist Japan lets in virtually no Muslim migrants (or any migrants) — for ethnic/racial reasons — and curiously live in groups of deca-millions without experiencing what Khan asserts is an axiom “part and parcel” of life in a big city.
Europeans let in everyone and everyone, are thought of as racist, and are thanked thusly.
What a deal.
no_one says
Not true. Brits don’t let everyone. Christians from Eastern Europe are not welcomed in the UK.
gravenimage says
no_one, this is the situation:
“EU migration: Eastern European workers in UK pass one million”
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-37109747
The population of all of Britain is about 60 million, so this is a significant number.
No Fool says
And it’s only a matter of time until this happens in the US if the efforts of President Trump, trying to control immigrants coming into the country, keep getting blocked by liberals! The bleeding hearts are setting us up for this same tragedy. So much for “the best interests of the American people”.
quota raven says
To No Fool, who says “…And it’s only a matter of time until this happens in the US…”
With all due respect, Mr/Ms Fool, terrorist attacks in the US have been going on since 9/11/01. That’s almost 17 years ago! Have you been unaware of these attacks? There are too many for me to list here, but Boston marathon, gay club in Florida, business Christmas party in California, immediately come to mind. Only the venue (a rock concert, in the case of Manchester) keeps changing.
I have loved ones who attend “heavy metal” rock concerts, and there are many, many such concerts here in the Northwest of the USA. I never before specifically worried for their safety, although several years ago, in 2010, I believe, a plot to blow up families at the celebration of putting up the official Portland Christmas tree was narrowly averted.
The additional pressure on American law enforcement to protect us here in the USA is staggering. Looked at realistically, I think we can all agree that any guarantee of safety of people in any crowd is impossible, a fantasy at best.
Terrorism is working. All over the world.
Cheers!
quota raven
gravenimage says
All too true, Quota.
AleX says
They haven’t yet discovered how ‘diversity is strength’.
They must be missing the waves of peaceful terrorist attacks on European streets.
Yohanan says
Japan had an episode of its own home grown terror in 1995 from the cult movement Aum Shinrikyo. The ringleader Shoko Asahara was sentenced and still awaits execution. If it were foreign terrorists, Japan would more quickly implement legal sentences.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokyo_subway_sarin_attack
Paul says
Whereas in the West, we pussyfoot around home-grown terrorists and
foreign terrorists alike. We well and truly lead the way in self-flagellation.
Laura says
I watched a video a while back of Japanese police dealing with rioting muslims.
gravenimage says
Yes–here’s the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RWR82N-MYE
The report is in Japanese, so I don’t have details–but rioting Muslims look much the same all over the world.
Scorpio says
Dear Paul,
Excellent point; is that why Riyadh in Saudis Arabia also escapes?
Paul says
@Scorpio,
The Saudis just leave it up to stupid and gullible Western countries
to accommodate the terrorists whose indoctrination they’ve
financed. They won’t allow their chickens to come home to roost.
It’s like with the UAE where the Muslim Brotherhood is rightly designated
a terrorist entity, but the latter were allowed to set up shop in London.
PRCS says
Yes, indeed.
somehistory says
Reuters reports at least 19 dead and 50 injured. The numbers will likely go higher, if this follows the pattern of other attacks by these monsters.
gravenimage says
Horrible. These poor people and their loved ones.
PRCS says
Yup. Depending upon the severity of the injuries, some may pass in hospital–raising the toll.
gravenimage says
Toll is now 22.
Barry says
There comes a time when the gloves are taken off and niceties done away with….to the cowardly chicken-shit animal hiding behind cloth….I’d absolutely love to meet you – just you and me….no words…just recompense….
Ed Lee says
My gut level response is the same. The problem is that what you propose is an incentive to them, not a deterrent. This is the worst kind of Catch-22.
Barry says
We take these bastards out one at a time until they’re all gone. No one is playing into their hands. We are at war and have been since the 6th century.
AleX says
[correction: 7th century]
Otherwise message well received and welcome.
Richard says
How about this: For every non-lethal jihad attack, the victim country deports 50 imams, chosen at random, citizenship notwithstanding. For every lethal attack, 500 imams go. The very next day. No due process, no lawyers, no appeals.
cashu says
When you have a dangerous snake in your midst, the most effective way to kill it is to cut its head off. Once done, the rest of the snake dies. Islam is like a poisonous snake. And the Imams, ayatollahs and other “religious” leaders are the head of the snake. Since they actively incite the rest of the snake to murderous violence, they need to be targeted and destroyed. Any “religious” leader who advocated violence as a measure of increasing the power of his “religion” does not deserve the respect of immunity from the same violence. Knock ’em off, one or several at a time, until the head of the snake ceases to exist, or, at the least ceases to incite ANY violence toward anyone. This is a war for survival, folks, and drastic outrage requires drastic remedial effort to quell it.
Truth Seeker says
The USDA had the brilliant idea of importing corn snakes to get rid of rats in farms. Unfortunately, they didn’t think things through as corn snakes don’t have natural predators in the US. In the same way, the Marxists are importing Muslims to destroy Christians (who they see as despicable as rats). Unfortunately, they haven’t thought things through as Islam has no natural predator. It is supremacist and expansionist and will destroy the Marxists. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBcZW-XGjZA
G35x says
@Truth Seeker: Umm, Corn Snakes are native to North America. Are you sure you’re not thinking of some other animal? Corn Snakes are roughly the same size as King Snakes (yet lack the resistance to venom that King Snakes have) so Corn Snakes have a whole laundry list of predators (birds, coyotes, wild dogs, larger snakes, frogs, etc).
dumbledoresarmy says
And 500 mosques get surprise-raided and searched, and if anything *at all* , er, *peculiar*, shall we say, gets discovered – by army sappers and sniffer dogs going through the things from attic to basement, and all associated premises such as businesses and imams’ houses – then those mosques get dynamited the very next day, and all assets seized, and put into a trust fund to help pay for the medical treatment and other needs of the victims of the attack and their families.
Islam is all about seizure of territory. This is a war and the mosques are the forts, arsenals, recruitment-and-indoctrination centres, command centres, arms and bomb factories, etc. Take out the imams… **and take out the mosques**.
Mosque after mosque getting flattened by bulldozers, after every jihad attack, *along with* deportation of imams, sheikhs, mullahs, etc, would send a very strong message; because it would mean they were losing their *bases*, losing *turf*.
Rufolino says
Oh, what shocking religious prejudice ! The Pope said all religions are religions of peace.
roger woodhouse says
Ive been advocating similar action for yesrs but tl no avail.The Brits have been brainwashed by PC so no chance of any remotely radical action of that nature.We cant even deport illegal immigrant rapists and /or murderers because of their ‘human rights’.70 years of leftwing drip drip brainwashing has finally paid off!
Amazed says
And so the circle is continued, brilliant idea. When will the HATE stop coming and consuming souls
lloyd jordan says
it took only 1 death to start the great war
roger woodhouse says
Unfortunately that will never happen .The left will never admit they got it wrong.They will continue blaming everyone and every Western politician for not being ‘more ‘welcoming to this religion of peace..No.Untill we elect people like Nigel Farage who know exactly what needs to be done we will continue down this road which will eventually lead to Armagedon.
Steve Klein says
President Trump will visit the pope who will tell him he gave a great speech in Saudi Arabia.
Guest says
I hope you’re watching this Theresa May and I hope you’re proud
Joanne says
The government allows this to happen to its people!
cashu says
Exactly WHO appointed Ms. May to her position?? Oh… she was voted into office? Just who should be blamed for the situation in Britain if the politicians – who are selling the Brits down the river, willy-nilly, to islam – were actually chosen for office, and voted into office, by the majority of the citizens?? Just who is it that needs a ‘do-better’ talk about the relative honesty of your average, garden variety, politician, as well as an extensive remedial education in civics 101??? An informed, THINKING citizenry is less likely to be led down the garden path by dishonest politicians. It’s not taught in the schools in Britain? Time for the Brits to savvy-up… and they don’t have a lot of time left to reverse course – not with the mayor of London now a dammed muslim. I’m English and it hurts my heart to see what is happening in the great old country my ancestors emigrated from.
Shmooviyet says
Agreed.
Just heartbreaking to imagine what so many of our ancestors would think of what has become of their “other Eden”.
James says
She decided to call an election, three years early, so that she could be elected if people wished to vote for her. I have every intention of voting for her, and every confidence that she will seek to do her best for the UK – including getting us out of the EU, as she has several times made very clear she fully intends to do.
gravenimage says
Theresa May was *not* voted into office. She was appointed by the party after David Cameron resigned in the wake of Brexit.
dumbledoresarmy says
I would advise that if you are a British citizen, that you write a very brief letter to the British PM.
Be polite and brief.
Give the latest stats on how many Muslims there are in and around Manchester. Then state the obvious – “Got Muslims? Got Jihad”. And request that the importation of Muslims into the UK STOP, right now. And that all non-citizen Muslims be deported, PRONTO. And that Parliament have a good, long think about dusting off and reactivating ancient laws about exile and outlawry so that British-passport-holding Mohammedans can be dealt with as the fifth columnists – whether active operatives, or passive enablers, or ‘human shields’ – of an enemy entity, that they *are*.
Anne Smith says
Will never happen as most politicians are busy courting the Muslim block vote.
The Muslims have managed to infiltrate many Councils and official positions including Parliament, politicians are terrified of them and their block voting power and continually cow tow to them.
This is at the heart of the problem.
roger woodhouse says
Really? Well its the kind of BSthat resonates with a lot of people and the kind I prefer to the crap we get from our politicians in Britain
MartelTheHammer says
No fcking more. Moslems were let into Western civilization in good faith. They cannot behave or contain their hatred for us. Every last false Prophet worshipper, out of the West & back to the desert right fcking now
Savvy Kafir says
That is the ONLY solution that can actually work. We cannot allow the enemy to live among us in the civilized world. If we do, eventually they will win this war, by out-breeding, out-fighting, & out-maneuvering us.
Islam must be ejected from the West. The sooner people understand that, and get on with that program, the better.
David M says
I agree. Ban Islam in the west now.
roger woodhouse says
A start must be made.How about one of our so called leaders offer some kind of warnimg to the muslims or their imams.A gentle reminder that thsy are living in a tolerant Christian country which tespects all religions and non and we will not tolerate any religion that has violence in its creed.Furthermore those who belong to this particular religion who cannot accep these conditions will be asked to leave (volentarily or forceably).Surely that cannot be considered unreasonable.
Gen Jones says
The audience for this performer is very young. Many kids were separated from their parents. This act is despicable.
StacyGirl says
Yes hearing reports that some “tweens ” were there without parents. No one is safe and nothing is sacred.
gravenimage says
Yes–almost all of the audience is just kids.
God, I hate Islam.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
Donald R Laster Jr says
People need to relearn the history between the 700s and 1500s when Islam launched out of Arabia and took over North Africa and invaded Europe through Spain. Anyone who knows the history knows what the Islamics are going to do. Charles Martel forced the Islamics invaders out of France and Germany, and Charlemagne help keep them out for 400 years or so until they overran the Byzantine Empire. Wake up Europe and get rid of the invading Army you have allowed in.
Donald R Laster Jr says
And it took the Spanish until the late 1400s to get rid of them finally.
cashu says
Ironic, isn’t it, that the Spanish today are bending over backward to show their multicultural PC culture by actively INVITING the muslims back into Spain. Talk about being unable to learn from their own history. They are so afraid of appearing islamophobic, they are willing to commit cultural suicide to prove how modernly politically correct they are. But they are not alone, From Iceland to Germany and from Sweden to Italy, the mental disease affects all the politicians charged with the responsibility to keep their citizenry safe from all perils. Does anyone remember how Sulieman populated his harems with European girls during the heyday of muslim conquest? Oh, wait… that same phenomenon is a fixture in modern day England as we speak, as hundreds of pre-teen girls are forced into sexual slavery. Sheesh…
Lee says
In total there were 4 Million ‘White slave’s of Barbary.
no_one says
They should study Bulgarian history. Then they will know the true face of islam. Turks bombed a train in Bulgaria in 1982. The special cars for parents with small children. Many dead kids. Of course commies gave the muzzie the death penalty. Now days Bulgarian turks hail these as heros, build them monuments.
gravenimage says
Yes, no_one–that happened outside Sofia in 1985. Seven dead and nine wounded. The perpetrators were “pro-Turkish militants”.
This was before most of us in the West knew much about Jihad terrorism.
cashu says
Another day, another incident involving a muslim murderer and multiple innocent victims. How many more innocent victims must die before the idiot politicians in charge of western democratic governments’ decisions that determine public safety will finally have an epiphany – a eureka moment – and realize that this evil political construct called islam is completely incompatible with western civilization. This evil is bent on conquering us, not co-existing with us on an equal basis. This is not and never has been “live and let live.” Unless the rest of the world is willing to BE converted to islam by force, they will have to finally admit that this form of multiculturalism is doomed to failure. Islam and everyone else will NEVER be compatible. The only chance we have is to immediately deport these vicious adherents of a hellish seventh century cult. There is no effective way to determine who is or isn’t a violent member of this cult. The one thing consistent with our sad experience with this vicious evil is that they will not assimilate, regardless how much we pray and hope they will. We’re left with the inescapable conclusion that there is no honor or benefit in compromising with evil. Islam IS evil…
Dave says
Stay strong in UK we wont be beaten by these low lifes my thoughts with all those who have lost family all governments need to stand firm and deport any one convicted and rest of there family stop handouts to any who refuse to assimilate with our laws the time now is to male te call anyone who does not conform needs to be deported those Muslims who do right should show support for there adopted country or same applies to them there clerics who don’t speak out against these acts should also be deported R.I.P.to the victims BE STRONGER THAN THE OTHER who try to rule
ken ryan says
after this disaster in Manchester I only hope our aussie piss weak leaders turnball and shorten and their gutless party members realise urgent action must be taken asap to stop this from happening in our country,as it is only a matter of time before it does and to late for sadness flowing from the lying tongues
JT says
Listening to live radio. No mention whatsoever of the ‘I’ word.
cashu says
Political correctness is alive and well and smug as hell…
Beagle says
If only Ariana Grande fans would end their occupation things like this wouldn’t happen. Muslims are the real victims. Racism, Islamophobia, marginalization, far-right nationalists, Tim McVeigh, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Deploy the candles, balloons and teddy bears. Mouth some platitudes about peace and love. Push for more immigrants.
Await the next attack. Repeat.
But despite the best efforts of the idiots in positions of authority, people are growing increasingly wise and sick of this horrible charade of ‘concern’ after every attack.
gravenimage says
Grimly amusing, Beagle.
no_one says
You forgot flowers, cards, hearts.
dumbledoresarmy says
Nothing wrong with flowers and cards…
I wonder what would happen if some Islamosavvy florist created a floral tribute – a large panel of red and white roses forming the shape of the Cross of St George?
Send a message…
Gwen says
Where can I donate to make that happen?
cashu says
@Beagle… Yup. It’s common knowledge that slapping a brain-dead progressive across the face repeatedly will sometimes cause him to put his brain to better use – if for no other reason than to try to find a way to stop the pain… lol… A lame analogy, I know, but the best I could come up with on the spur…
PRCS says
And right after the slap down, right back to the excuses, the candlelight vigils, the teddy bears, the balloons and flowers, the defense of Islam, the “refugees welcome” signs…..
Charli Main says
Take a deep breath and hold it. Soon Britian’s streets will be overflowing with millions of Muslims waving banners and screaming ” not in our name ” ” islam is a religión of peace “these muslims have misunderstood islam ” ” Mohammed only taught love and charity for the Kaffir ” KEEP HOLDING YOUR BREATH. ANY TIME NOOOOOOOOW.
Singh the Sikh says
The long-term fruits of Muslim immigration. Religion of peace doing what it does best.
Martel says
How did this happen?…. there was extensive event security there… ummm have you seen who is working in event security these days?… we are sitting ducks… something drastic needs to change and change quickly if we respect ourselves and the societies our ancestors have created.
Jack Diamond says
They didn’t get into the arena, at least. This also happened on the anniversary of the murder of Lee Rigby,
likely not a coincidence.
Georg says
My condolences to those simply devoting themselves to their religion of hate who will face a backlash possibly resulting in inconvenience.
cashu says
Beautifully stated, Georg. Muslims are always victims until they are uncontrollable perps. And even then, the victims “made them do what they did.” Ergo, islam being a perfect “religion,” they are always victims regardless how vicious they become… And they always seem able to enlist the support of the SJWs. Go figure…
Georg says
It is the scandal of the century.
Matthieu Baudin says
More of the same, more of the same and more of the same. Sorry to be repeating myself.
JS says
How do we know that the video is real? I’m just being cautious
James says
Very sensible question. And just the question that needs to be asked precisely because Islam is not likely to find a warm welcome here.
RichardL says
The guy has a very strange accent. Sounds east European to me.
There is none of the usual rubbish and he doesn’t begin by in the name of allah etc.
I find it fishy.
brane pilot says
The newly elected Muslim mayor of London has publicly stated that [Islamic] terrorism is the new normal and nothing to be concerned about. Those not killed and maimed by terrorists greatly outnumber those who are harmed, so it is not a problem.
The poor Brits have become like sheep and will suffer their fate. First fleeced, then slaughtered.
Georg says
His attempt is to desensitize the British to terrorism in the hope it will not be addressed. It is effectively propaganda making terrorism easier for terrorists.
Michael Copeland says
Also dereliction of duty.
Anne Smith says
The sanctimonious utterings of Manchester Mayor Andy Burnham reflected the same phrasing as that used by Muslim Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan and aklso Prime Minister May.
The same phrase is always used “we shall not allow them to divide us”.
This attempts to portray the British, Islamic or Christian or even other faiths as a united whole. We all know this is not true. “They” are not trying to “divide us” – they are trying to conquer us and rule us.
quota raven says
To Anne Smith – Excellent observation and point, Anne. My ear, too, is attuned to platitudes we hear so many of in the West, and I’m hearing them aplenty in the USA. I agree, 100%.
Cheers!
quota raven
gravenimage says
He is hoping that Infidels will eventually just submit to Islam, out of fear and despair.
Martel says
This “Holy Act” had to be carried out because this event was full of acts that are Haram. The following breaches of Sharia comfirm that this Holy Offering was Justified under the directions laid down in the Quaran and Sunna. (Sarc)
Un-Islamic decor (Statues)
Toys (anything resembling a living thing)
Drawing and Art for anything that resembles a human.
Eating pork and monkeys (because they’re related to Jews)
Drinking Alcohol
Playing anything that results in winning a cash prize.
Reading and Writing anything that goes outside the realm of Islam (no high fantasy where they pray to gods other than Allah, for example)
Poetry.
Owning pets other than Cats. (this is because one of Muhammad’s friends had cats he was called Abu Hurayra , Father of kittens)
Dancing.
Non Islamic culture (Wearing jeans and t-shirts; Casual stuff)
Counter-Culture/Sub-Culture (Punk, Metal, Goth…etc)
Tattoos
Eating or washing with your left hand.
Imitating Non Muslims (Plucking eyebrows and ‘beautifying’ self)
Working with non Muslims in restaurants, casinos, temples, banks, courts, bars, and music venues.
Befriending Non Muslims and calling them “Brothers” and “Sisters” all companionship with Non Muslims should be professional only
Premarital relationships.
Making friends with the other gender.
Gender Equality
Talking to other genders before marriage.
Showing affection in public.
Staring or looking directly at the opposite gender.
Not praying five times a day.
Not washing self (Wu’Du) before praying or reading the quran.
Homosexuality, or talking with people who are homosexual.
Leaving the religion, or talking with people who left it.
Talking with people outside of the Abrahamic religions
Slaughtering an animal without saying ‘Bismillah’
Stunning the Animal before slitting it’s throat
Eating said animal (non halal food)
just to mention but a few….
PRCS says
Hope you don’t mind me plagiarizing your list.
quota raven says
Where did this video come from? As a generally skeptical person, I nonetheless tend to trust Jihad Watch posts, but this one clearly needs some source documentation in my view.
Cheers!
quota raven
gravenimage says
It looks like it was filmed on a cellphone and posted to the web.
I really doubt anyone could fake something so fast, nor that they would be inclined to.
quota raven says
To Gravenimage, who says, “I really doubt anyone could fake something so fast, nor that they would be inclined to.”
How long do you think it took to write up that sign and videotape the 15-second message? I think I could do it myself, an advanced luddite and severely techno-challenged, in about three minutes, five, at most.
I can think of many who might be inspired to claim “credit” for this despicable act, including ISIS, whether or not they were actually involved in its execution.
I’m not trying to quibble, just asking for details of the sourcing for this video. Having these details would only add credibility to those who take the trouble to broadcast the video. Is this, for example, the only such video to be found on the Internet? It’s only reasonable to question the origin of such an incendiary video, even though I have little doubt that Manchester is an example of Islamic terrorism.
Cheers!
quota raven
gravenimage says
Hi, Quota.
There are lots of these videos on-line now. Here are a couple:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807970/Manchester-Arena-explosion-video-Ariana-Grande-concert-UK-blast-fans-flee
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/808323/Manchester-bombing-video-explosion-attack-footage-arena-Ariana-Grande-terror
They appear to be the same kind of very amateur cell phone videos as the one above.
quota raven says
GravenInage – I watched the two videos for which you sent links. and they are compelling scenes at the actual bombing.
The video I was commenting on originally was about 15 seconds of an Arab fellow with a face mask with slits. In it, he was claiming credit for the act of terror at Manchester. It was very short, and he just bragged that it was …Isis?…who carried out the act. I thought it was at the top of this page, associated with this article. It seemed funky and less slick and well-produced than some others of that ilk that I’ve seen. So I began to question where it came from, who sent it to whom, the legitimacy of the message.
Seems to me many malevolents might be inspired to grab credit and whack off such a video. Wondered whether there were more than just the one I saw. In any case, I can’t find it where I thought I saw it, so it’s moot. But I thought in order to be taken seriously, and be credited with veracity, it needed a better “provenance” than it was presented with.
Cheers!
quota raven
More Ham Ed says
Hoping for the day when JW reader comment quantity will be 2000+ minimum for each topic. What I mean by that is more people figuring out where to get the truth.
MacUalraig says
Indeed, Sir. I hope for the same. Although for that happen the bloodshed would have to increase proportionately.
And although I don’t want that to happen I fear it must to turn this around.
gravenimage says
More Ham Ed, there are *many* more readers than posters here. From time to time Robert Spencer has run articles on the number of discrete hits Jihad Watch gets every day, and it runs in the thousands even on stories with few comments.
There are a *lot* of people learning about the Jihad threat here.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. Anybody with a young family, anyone who is studying or in paid employment, may not necessarily have *time* and energy to comment.
Not everybody feels the need to actively comment; they are content to lurk and ‘listen in’regularly; I would guess that some might even listen and read and watch quietly for a period of time until they feel they have a handle on the problem, perhaps acquiring some of Spencer’s books or other materials, and then off they go to find some way of putting their knowledge into effect. It is also possible that many prefer to be cautious, and are worried that even at a site like this, with good security, and using a ‘nom de plume’, they might not be safe; so they read, listen and learn, but prefer to remain entirely unseen.
And this way the Mohammedan mobsters – who *also* read and eavesdrop here, betcha – can be left to sweat and fret and wonder just *how many* infidels, out there, of those they might encounter in assorted Western countries, might be.. people who have learned all about Islam, at jihadwatch, and are not going to be fooled. Because by now it’s quite a lot of us, and the numbers *do* increase; it’s about building an intelligent resistance **from the ground up**. Firm foundations, and all that.
dumbledoresarmy says
Another factor would be that some of those reading here would be from non-English-speaking backgrounds. They may have good English *comprehension* skills, but not feel quite confident enough to *post*.
Like me: with a bit of effort I could read through and understand the parent article and the Comments at a German or Italian or French counter-jihad site, BUT I wouldn’t feel at all confident to *comment* using those languages, as my speaking/ writing ability is a good deal rockier than my ‘passive’ reading/ comprehension ability. And especially in a subject field like this, where one wants to be as clear and accurate as possible, and not get misunderstood.
quota raven says
Graven – I meant “authenticity”, not “veracity” above. Cheers! qr
WW says
Yes!! I love this website and the comments. It’s refreshing to hear people speak truth and stand up for righteousness. Where the hell did that go….righteousness?? I only see that in the people trying to help the victims, the first responders and the amazing hospital staff trying to save life. Who needs cancer, diabetes and all other human afflictions when u have Islam and a world that is protecting and promoting it. Why can’t the righteous take a stand??? Praise God for Trump. Praying protection over him and his family.
Benedict says
It’s sad that this great and wonderful religion has been hijacked by evil people. Couldn’t one suppose that this very greatness itself would prevent such a thing to happen?
But once again we shouldn’t forget that the real victims here are Islam and the hundreds of millions of Muslims who didn’t participate in the terror and thus missed the chance for themselves and their loved ones to go to paradise. Hopefully there will be more concerts in the future or other events that will provide ample opportunities for the religion of peace to manifest itself. My prediction is that the gay pride parades all over Europe this summer will be suitable targets.
James says
As a piece of sarcasm, that was not bad at all.
MacUalraig says
The Lion of Luton needs to respond to this ASAP.
We need his voice!!
tim gallagher says
These disgusting terrorist acts by barbaric Muslims do seem to be finally waking up even some of the most brain-dead leftie members of the PC brigade. Not enough though. Nor fast enough. We who know the content of basic evil Islam don’t need to be woken up, but each new terrorist atrocity might finally wake up a few more Islamophile idiots. The only answer is to end any more Muslim migration to any non-Muslim country, hammer those Muslims in the non-Muslim countries whenever they step out of line, deport as many as possible and, as a long term goal, somehow make barbaric Islam extinct for the safety of all non-Muslims. Out here in Australia, on Channel 7 news last night, they showed footage of a fourteen year old girl being married off to a thirty four year old man by some scumbag imam. It was taken on someone’s mobile phone and is being used in a court case against the imam. I think it was in Melbourne. I think the man who married the girl is already in gaol. It mentioned how many cases of underage marriage are happening including some girls under ten years of age. Interesting footage. Yep, just like that perfect man Mohamed and Aisha. Another evil atrocity brought to us by Islam, the paedophile ring. It just never ends with Islam, does it? Complete barbarism in every area of human life. It was interesting to actually see the footage which I guess they would normally keep hidden from non-Muslims..
no_one says
With president Trump kissing the a** of saudis muslim migration will keep going on. Nothing will stop the savages.
Lee says
The shit got to me, I couldn’t help myself and shot a Lefty-I did 8 Yrs for Attempted Murder-Now he has no spleen and lives in pain. When it came down to it, it was the Treason that triggered me. I feel better for doing something but there is a lot more work to do.
gravenimage says
Uh huh…
Jerry says
We all know what happens now. The leftist politicians and media will say it was a lone wolf that doesn’t represent islam, it’s a religion of peace, and we’re all racist bigot islamophobes for complaining about islamic jihad.
How many so-called moderate muslims are gloating right now over this slaughter of our people? I’m thinking a lot, the same ones that hold signs reading, “Behead those that insult the prophet,” and “islam will rule the world.” It’s time the apologists start caring about the victims of islamic jihad and stop trying to ingratiate and appease muslims out of fear and cowardice. We non-muslims have rights too, we’re not just sheep to be slaughtered for their demon creed. We’ve already paid a huge price for muslims in money and lives, our liberty, and whole neighborhoods to their inhospitable enclaves. At least have the decency to respond to our concerns about islamic jihad in truth and fairness. The left has shilled and protected islam like a Rosemary’s Baby, that devil child just keeps getting bigger and more deadly with their coddling help. These appeasers need to realize that by turning a blind eye to islam’s violent teachings they are complicit in the crimes jihadists commit. Everyone has a moral and legal obligation to be forthright about the facts that lead to murder. And that includes islamic jihad and muslims’ tradition of forcing those beliefs on others via terrorism, war, and mass immigration of the conquering kind. .
So when the denials and excuses start rolling in we’ll all know who these traitors are. And then we should employ every legal and political means to remove them from power and replace them with those who are fit for the job.
tedh754@gmail.com says
Mark Steyn said it best, and I may be paraphrasing a bit: “Muslims concerned over backlash from tomorrow’s train bombing.”
It never ends. And peaceful Muslims are of no use to stop this crap.
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on.
quota raven says
To tedh754@gmail.com –
I presume you’ve read Mark Steyn’s book “America Alone”, which sets down calmly the terrifying (no pun intended) demographic statistics and realistic projections that auger the inevitability of Islamists’ continued burgeoning power and control throughout the world. The Muslim birth rate alone, compared to that of non-Muslims, is compelling.
And, certainly, as we can see on every level of government in America and Europe, Muslims are masters of infiltration and manipulation.
Cheers!
quota raven
dumbledoresarmy says
The ‘peaceful’ Mohammedans are basically human-shielding the sharia assassins and jihad terror raiders.
The Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, is the nurturing, sheltering sea within which the jihadis and sharia assassins swim, and from which, ceaselessly, naturally and inevitably, they arise.
Or, to put it briefly: “Got Muslims? Got Jihad”.
Everybody who’s on Twitter, try tweeting *that*. Use google to find out roughly how many Muslims live in and around Manchester, as a percentage of the population, and how many mosques there are. Then off you go – “Manchester has X number of mosques/ X percentage of the pop is Muslims. 22 May Muslims blew up infidel concert-goers. Got Muslims? Got Jihad.”
Islam is Cancer says
All part of living in a big city say the slimy politicians…Well how come this ISLAMIC SLAUGHTER is not a normal part of life in TOKYO where they have no ISLAM OR MULTICULTURALISM?
Saleem Smith says
As Indonesian cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir recently put it, “If the West wants to have peace, then they have to accept Islamic rule.”
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Mohammedanism is an absurd pack of lies. Muhammad the prophet of Islam is recorded in Islam’s canonical texts (the Quran and Sunnah) as being a murderous Jew hating pedophile who ordered the assassination of his critics when he came to power. And yet the Quran says that Muhammad is “the model man” for Muslim believers to emulate! The death cult marches on. The Manchester jihad earlier today will sadly not be the last. Until the Muslim’s themselves abandon Islam more jihad and Sharia enforcement are sure to come
Quran 33:21:
“There is a good example in God’s apostle for those of you who look to God and the Last Day and remember God always.”
Hadith, Sahih Bukhari: Volume 5, Book 59, Number 369:
Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah:
Allah’s Apostle said, “Who is willing to kill Ka’b bin Al-Ashraf who has hurt Allah and His Apostle?” Thereupon Muhammad bin Maslama got up saying, “O Allah’s Apostle! Would you like that I kill him?” The Prophet said, “Yes,” Muhammad bin Maslama said, “Then allow me to say a (false) thing (i.e. to deceive Kab). “The Prophet said, “You may say it.”
Hadith, Sahih Bukhari: Vol. 7, Book 62, No. 88:
Narrated Ursa:
The prophet wrote the [marriage contract] with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e.’ til his death).
Quran 9:29:
“Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given as believe neither in God nor the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.”
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/muhammad/life-of-muhammad.aspx
dumbledoresarmy says
You wrote – “As Indonesian cleric, Abu Bakar Bashir recently put it, “If the West wants to have peace, then they have to accept Islamic rule.””
Link?
Whenever you refer us to a statement as telling as that, the link, the date time and place of the statement, MUST be attached to it. It’s no use as ammo unless we have all the details. And yes, we can try googling it up, but: a lot easier if the details are already provided and we don’t have to go looking them up.
gravenimage says
Saleem and DDA, I found the quote:
In answer to one reporter’s question as to what the West and the United States can do to make the world safer, Bashir replied, “They have to stop fighting Islam. That’s impossible because it is sunnatullah [destiny, a law of nature], as Allah has said in the Koran. If they want to have peace, they have to accept to be governed by Islam.”
This was reported by the ABC (Australia Broadcasting Corporation).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Bakar_Bashir#cite_note-abc.net.au-27
Pretty telling stuff.
Wellington says
Sadly, this event in Britain really won’t change anything. It should but it won’t. It will be the same old same old. The Western elites will make even more excuses for the oldest malevolent ideology on earth; normal people will (understandably) go about their daily tasks tomorrow and the next day and the day after that; Muslims around the world will openly and very publicly worry about backlash and proclaim ever so “sincerely” yet again that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance; anyone criticizing Islam will be branded a bigot. And so on. Yes, nothing will really change. Except that there will be more Islamic terrorist attacks and more people will thus be killed or maimed for life but the world will continue to be a lesser world because Islam is in it.
I cannot put into words adequately how much I loathe two things: 1) Islam; 2) continued excuses for Islam.
Lawrence says
Exactly, nothing will change. 9-11 changed nothing in the States, on the contrary the fawning before Islam only intensified. And the Brits and Euros are the same, clueless.
maghan says
Blame Standard Oil. Money always talks.
Laura says
Fool
Wellington says
Seconded about maghan Laura, though I would add he is not just a fool but a malevolent fool.
jural says
RIP
Tama says
Well that’s an early spark for ramabomb.
Anon says
But the crusades…
dsinc says
MEMO TO SCOTLAND YARD.
If Tommy Robinson opens his mouth don’t forget to throw him in jail.
dumbledoresarmy says
Britain needs Tommy Robinson – and Gavin Boby – and Paul Weston – and Douglas Murray – and a fair few others – to all open their mouths *together* and say, loud and clear, “This was Jihad. This was an act of War, on British soil, carried out against British infidels, in obedience to the Jihad doctrine that is at the core of Islam. This is Muslims doing EXACTLY what Mohammed told them to do – waging war upon all humanity to force them to Submit to the Religion of Blood and War”.
roger woodhouse says
Time to ban the Koran.They wont allow the Bible in SA so we should follow their example.Untill the teachings in thatbook are exposed nothing will change.Time for pussyfooting around this so called religion is long over.
David M says
https://omny.fm/shows/ben-fordham-full-show/tommy-robinson-on-manchester-attack
Tommy talking to Australian radio.
Lawrence says
Not just the fault of the politicians, but the fault of the public for voting for them. What has that moron Theresa May have to say about it? I don’t want to know, after all she calls Islam the RoP.
Charli Main says
Expect Sharia May to do a round of the mosques hugging imams, declaring that Islam and Muslims are peaceful, loving and tolerant and that the perpetrator of this atrocity had misunderstood the peaceful teachings of Mohammed.
Sharia May will also reassure Muslims that anyone displaying islamophobia will be arrested and dealt with to the full extent of the Law.
Shoshonna says
Has this been verified? I can believe 100% it was Islamic terrorism, but ISIS videos are usually professionally done and polished. This looks like the work of some kid in his moms basement. Really, a sheet of paper?
gravenimage says
The perpetrators have been identified as Muslim, yes.
Pal says
“That GREAT FAITH”: Theresa May, March 2017.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-london-attack-islamic-terrorism-wrong-westminster-bridge-prime-minister-commons-a7645626.html
THE VEILED THERESA.
AND THE SCOTLAND YARD.
The yard IS ALREADY A BACKYARD OF ISLAM.
The Yard needs a LONG lesson in Islam.
A LESSON by ROBERT – not by Theresa,
Benedict says
Theresa May’s prophecy is nothing but wishful thinking and futile exorcism. The face of Mr. Hyde is just as much a genuine expression of Islam as that of Dr. Jekyll and both heads are organically connected to the same body, i.e. Umma.
Laura says
Stand by for Theresa the appeaser’s statement, later today, that ‘this is ‘a perversion of a great faith.’
Crusades Were Right! says
Should be: “Islam is the greatest perversion of faith.”
Pal says
Crusades – CORRECT!
Crusades Were Right! says
I wonder how long it will take to go from the “How could this happen?” stage to the “Muslims are the REAL victims” stage?
Agnishtoma says
Sharing this link http://www.themysteriousindia.net/the-biggest-holocaust-in-world-history/
Pal says
Agnishtoma – THANKS a lot for the link!
Agnishtoma says
Happy that it is useful to at least one person
Charli Main says
Most people on Jihad Watch are fully familiar with the horrors and mass genocide that Indians were subjected to by the Muslim invaders of their country.
Western Europe has, so far, only been subjected to A FRACTION of the atrocities that Indians were put through.
Agnishtoma says
You’re right Charli..But the goddamned “Pseudo se(i)cular” politicians insist on naming roads and places with the names of Islamic tyrants like Tippu sultan, Akbar, Aurangazeb etc. They also re-name theaters and convention halls in India which had names of ancient Hindu poets like Kalidasa to Al-Kazi. The link is given here http://bharatkalyan97.blogspot.in/2017/05/shanghai-unveiled-kalisasa-in-2006.html
Sorry to say to Europe “Brace up for more!!!”
Agnishtoma says
The worst part is, in our History books the genocide and rapes committed by the Mogul tyrants and barbarians like Tippu sultan is obfuscated. They are white washed and presented as benevolent despots/enlightened rulers etc. For example the tyrant Akbar killed over 25000 people to attain the title Ghazi. The heaps of heads was so high that it could hide the city gates. But we and sadly today generation too, were taught that Akbar was a benevolent ruler who married Hindu wives “Created” a new religion etc. He was a simply a Jihadist murderer, period.
Also the shameless sewage tank AKA as Bollywood, spawns out Hindi movies like “Jodha Akbar” that shows Akbar as an incurable romantic, running around his Hindu wives and singing love songs. God knows how many wives of Hindu rulers commited sati to avoid the humiliation of being part of his harem!!! Also one liar called Bhagwan Gidwani wrote a novel called “The sword of Tippusultan”, which was made into a popular 1990’s TV show with the same name. In that the author paints him as championing the cause of Indian freedom movement and fighting against the English. Actually he invited the ruler of Turkey to send an army to India to further the cause of Jihad in India. He raped and killed 1000s of Nambudiri Brahmins, raped their wives in Malabar region of south India, now in Kerala state.
Thankfully the greatest good British imperialism did to India was to throw out the Islamic tyrants, though it also blood India to death in other counts.
gravenimage says
Yes–no people have suffered so much at the hands of Islam as Indians.
Pal says
It WELL seems that Only the Christian and other NATIONS that have been AT LEAST TWO-THREE CENTURIES UNDER ISLAM know Islam well, with their societies embedding some more Relevant perception of it. Thus they generate more real views on islam and their more relevant “representatives” to express more professional opinions on the matter – ones with dept, knowledge, truths already suffered.
ROBERT SPENCER is a DESCENDANT of such a nation. EASTERN ROME – BYZANTIUM – GREECE.
SO are Brigitte Gabriel, Nonie Darwish, thousands more.
Britain is just IN THE BEGINNING. All its “professional” and especially political opinions sound as if an application of general, universal principles to SOME invented, elusive “radical” ideology.
Agnishtoma says
India has seen about 9-10 centuries of Jihad depredations. It started right from the invasions of Ghazni Mohammed(About 17 times) around the 9-10th centuries. He raided the the Somnath temple and destroyed it. The temple was built with gold and that is why the rogue tried to raid it 17 times. Jihadi raids continued in Mogul India(12-16th centuries) on temples(The old Kashi temple destroyed by Aurangazeb. Ram temple at Ayodhya destroed by Babar), till Tippu sultan who was the last of the few powerful Islamic rulers in the late 19th century. It is only when the colonial European powers like Britain and France slowly took control the raids stopped. The British killed of Tippu in the Battle of Srirangapatna and deposed the last Mugal ruler(Bahadur Shah?? i forget). It still continues unabated in a small local fashion, were if an area(City/town) becomes a Muslim majority many non-Muslims are forced to sell their houses and lands on which they resided for centuries at dirt cheap prices or they are killed. Read this link
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/meerut/Exodus-of-Hindu-families-from-Kairana-a-reality-finds-NHRC-probe-report/articleshow/54451892.cms
“Oh stupid Europe especially UK and Sweden, please listen to people like us who see daily in our lives ruins of once great temples/buildings/libraries etc left in dilapidated conditions due to Jihad. You are going to go in to extinction soon. Though many of you had imperialistic histories and committed horrors in the past, you have become great nations with freedoms and prosperity(In some cases acquired through imperialism). Wake up!!! If you are gone the civilized world will be gobbled soon”
Pal says
Agnishtoma,
Thank you once again for your INDIAN PERSPECTIVES!
Keep On!
Agnishtoma says
Thanks Pal for your encouragement.
gravenimage says
Spain spent a lot of time under the Muslim heel, but most Spaniards today are pretty clueless about the threat of Islam, I’m afraid.
Charli Main says
@ agnishtoma,
Without doubt the British colonial authorities in India were responsible for some very unsavoury incidents, ( unlike the Muslims invaders, fully admitted and apoligised for )
However, the British did not engage in the systematic extermination of around 80 million Hindus, rape and sexually enslaved millions of Hindu women and destroy tens of thousands of temples or convert them into churches,
Please continue to post here and keep us updated on the Indian fight against Islam and its adherents.
Agnishtoma says
Yes you are right that they did not engage in systematic extermination of Hindus or rape or sell them off as slaves. The aim of the Brits was economical exploitation. But that also is not pleasant either.
As for other updates as you ask for, i feel that the entire Indo-Pak conflict is more of a war between Dar-ul-Islam and Dar-ul-Harb and not any conventional territorial war between 2 countries. I am not sure any politician in India understands this, even the so called “Right wing Hindu extremists” like Modi. Modi is still blathering that Islam is a religion of peace in Sufi conferences. There are 3 people whom i see who as i see, can spearhead the anti-jihadist movement.
1. Ajit Dooval, the national security head .
2. Yogi Adityanath the Chief minister of UP.
3. Subramanyam Swami who is a leader in the BJP the party currently in power.
As of now these 3 people seem to have the courage to call a spade a spade. The rest of the fellows are rotten weeds.
On the triple talaq front, the supreme court has blasted the Indian Muslim personal law board(IMPLB) on the inequality and has asked for a review of this. This itself is an earth shaking event here. Considering the appeasement that started of with that Muslim appeasing first PM Jawaharlal Nehru back in 1947 till before Modi. He was the one who encouraged this. He was the one who granted special status to Jammu and Kashmir. The follies he committed back then come to haunt us now!!!
Last week a TV channel called the Republic channel, owned by the only credible TV journalist in India Arnab Goswami did an expose of an ISIS camp in operating in Hyderabad, Telengana state, South India. But the worst happened. The police just perfunctorily detained them and released them under the pressure of politicians!!! I even do not know what the hell the Central government is doing, Modi of all!!!
Also there are many isolated incidents not many, were Christian missionaries collude with these jihadists as “Brothers in Abraham” to destabilize Hindu society and culture. This may sound very unsavory to many western folk and the “Lame stream media” mostly never reports these things. But these things do not have a bigger repercussion thanks to the differences in theology, one viewing the other as Infidel/Kaffir!!! This happens in many remote villages.
So scary over here but we are not losing hope!!!
Ali hamed says
We Egyptians are handling the issue better than any other country . We try and catch these guys and kill them before they do mischief . Not 100% successful but if you consider that egypt has the largest population of Arabic speaking Moslems (the most fanatic) in the world and the potential for chaos is enormous you will support our government .
Agnishtoma says
Ali, surprising that you are even able to view this website in your nation and comment without fear.
gravenimage says
If you consider the bombing of churches and throat cutting of victims in the streets “handling it”, then sure.
Egypt is definitely better under Al Sisi than under the Muslim Brotherhood, but this does not mean that Christians, Atheists, and women are not at pretty severe risk there, I’m afraid.
jack cohen says
close the wall up with our English dead
Geoff Theobald says
Theresa May says attack is appalling,well that’s frightened the shit out of the muslims.
Where oh where are the wests really strong leaders.
Let’s not do anything,just wait for the next atrocity.
Pal says
A slight deviation from the topic, if Robert and all colleagues here allow it to me::
“Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI Turns 90: The Child of the Holy Saturday”:
http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/a-child-of-holy-saturday-pope-emeritus-benedict-xvi-turns-90
Ade says
The BBC rushes to defend the poor muslims .. who insist that they are the “real victims”
Graham says
Poor security at the M.E.N. Arena will be blamed – not muslim terrorism! Couldn’t be that!
FYI says
The Media lefties and politicians will have to work very,very hard on the “this has nothing to do with islam” game which they like to play.
The mohammedan attackers were simply following the command of their allah:
They were slaying the unbelievers wherever they found them.
At a music concert.
So where do such murderous beasts get the idea to do such wicked things?
That islamic tendency to go on the rampage and kill completely innocent people
(a violation surely of God’s Sixth Commandment forbidding murder.. which allah permits)?
Could it have something to do {sarc on/} with the koranic teaching to …
“Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”
koran 2:191
“When opportunity arises KILL THE INFIDELS WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM”
koran 9:5
“MAKE WAR on the infidels living in your neighborhood”
koran 9:123
Politicianphobia says
Truth Seeker, Thank you for your post –I do hope it will be passed on and on and on. Islam is nothing but a CULT that has survived for 1400 years. Today is just another terriblely, sad day thanks to all the left idiots in the world who are enabling the slime to continue their conquest. I HATE ISLAM.
LilyDarcey says
When will these liberal socialist European politicians finally put their foot down and say no more.
When will they finally come to the realization that this jihad is not a small faction of islam, but it is all Islam and what the Quran dictates all good and true moslems must engage in!!!
When will they finally stop supporting immigration of Islamic refugees or Islamic contries!? I have come to a realization that they NEVER will, and many more jihadist terrorist attacks will happen, and still, these socialist liberal politicians will continue to accept and defend Islam as a religion of peace wishing to coexist in their western environment.
LilyDarcey says
When will these liberal socialist European politicians finally put their foot down and say no more.
When will they finally come to the realization that this jihad is not a small faction of islam, but it is all Islam and what the Quran dictates all good and true moslems must engage in!!!
When will they finally stop supporting immigration of Islamic refugees or Islamic countries!? I have come to a realization that they NEVER will, and many more jihadist terrorist attacks will happen, and still, these socialist liberal politicians will continue to accept and defend Islam as a religion of peace wishing to coexist in their western environment.
Politicianphobia says
I HATE ISLAM. I STILL HATE ISLAM.
Schrödinger says
The sacred months have passed. They did so 1400 years ago.