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“A man ran up to him and said: ‘This is for Islam’, and stuck a knife straight in him”

Jun 4, 2017 2:38 pm By Robert Spencer

“He just stepped outside the bar for a second and a man ran up to him and said: ‘This is for my family, this is for Islam’, and stuck a knife straight in him. He’s got a seven-inch scar going from his belly round to his back.”

“These people say they are doing this in the name of God, which is an absolute joke. They are callous, they are barbaric and they are absolute cowards. We will carry on as normal.”

Elizabeth O’Neill is assuming a god that is himself not callous and barbaric. That is not necessarily a correct assumption.

“London Bridge attack: one Canadian and one French citizen among dead – latest updates,” by Jamie Grierson, Nadia Khomami, Andrew Sparrow, and Claire Phipps, Guardian, June 4, 2017 (thanks to Kamala):

The mother of one of the victims, 23 year-old Daniel O’Neill, who was stabbed in last night’s attack and is being treated in hospital, has told of her son’s experiences.

“He just stepped outside the bar for a second and a man ran up to him and said: ‘This is for my family, this is for Islam’, and stuck a knife straight in him. He’s got a seven-inch scar going from his belly round to his back,” Elizabeth O’Neill told reporters outside King’s College hospital.

“The man ran away, Daniel headed back into the pub, there was shots fired, everybody was told to lie down, and then they were told to go downstairs in the bar. At this stage Daniel’s friend had put a tourniquet on him and was holding pressure there, he was brought downstairs, parts of that he doesn’t remember, and then the police were there and brought him in their car to the hospital.”

O’Neill said her son was able to talk but remained in shock. “”These people say they are doing this in the name of God, which is an absolute joke. They are callous, they are barbaric and they are absolute cowards. We will carry on as normal,” she said.

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  1. ermom says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 2:55 pm

    Read Qur’an Chapter 9, the entire thing, not only 9:29.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:08 pm

      While Islamophobia may be unpleasant, KAFIROPHOBIA IS DEADLY!

      Elizabeth O’Neill has not read the Islamic source texts nor the CLASSICAL, CANONICAL COMMENTARIES of Islam’s chief scholars that command adherence to AL WALAA WAL BARAA (Islamic apartheid.)

      The most CERTAIN and WELL-SUPPORTED DOCTRINE in Islam is Al Walaa wal Baraa (the HATRED OF DIRTY KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’).

      Muslims, who do not HATE and SHOW HOSTILITY to the dirty KAFIRS, will GO TO HELL.

      All Muslims must HATE…what better way to show HOSTILITY than to attempt MURDER of the dirty kufaar.

    • neluroman says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 9:00 pm

      I’ve read it, and I found it is a terror manual, let alone speak of its many stupidities. Only after you believe in these stupidities you become a terrorist.

      • Debi Brand says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 3:27 am

        “Only after you believe in these stupidities you become a terrorist.”

        Indeed. Hence the Qur’anic qualification: “those who believe.”

        So-called “Moderate” Muslim, by the measure of the Qur’an, are those who disbelieve in the alleged revelation the alleged prophet of Islam brought.

        Therefore, in brief here, such leads the thinking mind to ask, given these Moderates toss to the wind or the garbage can, in essence, the lot of “Allah’s Book,” why in this world do they need or want mosque or madrassa in which their children are instructed from “Allah’s Book” and the traditions of “the prophet”?

        • JDS says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 6:01 pm

          The children need to be taught the truth………jihadist are bound for hell and not heaven ……the stupidness in all of this mess is that the Muslims don’t understand is that Satan rules the Muslim world…but to change their teachings and thinking may take longer than we can withstand, without all out war against them, and our so called leaders do not have that resolve.

  2. somehistory says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 2:56 pm

    Yes, ti is normal to have a son carried to the hospital in a police car because some stranger used a knife and tried to kill him.
    How can one think to carry on as “normal” after something like that?

    She reminds of the woman whose daughter was raped and killed while on a trip paid for by working at odd and field jobs because the young woman refused the attentions of her rapist-murderer. The mother didn’t hold anything against the guy or his *religion* and didn’t want Trump to hold it against him either.

    Even after having these things happen to loved ones, denial is still too strong to admit islum is a wild beast and its god is not a god at all, but satan. satan who holds only hate for mankind and is using these scum slugs to carry out his delight…rape and murder…bloodshed that will only increase.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 3:07 pm

      Yes–this is not “normal”, nor should we ever consider it normal.

    • Vyx says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 5:45 pm

      Well. they’ve been sold on the fact that islam is a religion of peace, and no matter how many terror incidents there are, they will NOT divert from their beliefs, no matter how strong the empirical evidence.

      As for carrying on as normal, well, sweetie, that’s exactly what islam wants you to do.

      Don’t fight back.

      Be a coward.

      Pretend it’s not there.

      /how long before these people decide “convert” is better than “die?”

      • Rufolino says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 3:31 am

        The mother interviewed also said:

        “the commandment says thou shalt not kill, and all religions believe that !”

        Ignorance is bliss.

        • M Parker says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 11:02 am

          Kill really means murder. Killing in self defense is allowed as is killing to stop killers.
          I wonder if the three dead Islamist terrorists really believed their god would have virgins ready for them in heaven?

  3. Moshe says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    I just watched an uplifting and reassuring interview on Fox News with a young British Muslim man of Asian heritage. He said that despite the words from the terrorist quoted by Mr. Spencer, the attacks in Manchester and London do not represent Islam and are in fact contrary to the values of the Holy Month of Ramadan. This tragedy will only be deepened by a backlash against the peaceful Muslim community.

    This young resident of London spoke beautifully on Fox News. His inspiring message of peace and mutual understanding suggests that we should respond to these man-made disasters with increased inter-faith dialogue.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 3:10 pm

      Grimly amusing…

      • jihad3tracker says

        Jun 4, 2017 at 3:15 pm

        Hello again, Sir. I could not determine if our friend Moshe was being sarcastic, and so decided to come down on the side of a friendly response to him. However, chances are heavy that other JW readers will not be quite so civil.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 12:05 am

          If I recall correctly, jihad3tracker, Moshe is a solid anti-Jihadist. This looks like pretty obvious sarcasm here.

          But I agree–it is always better to use the “sarc” tag so that you are not misunderstood.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 3:13 pm

      Hello Moshe — If you are being serious about inter-faith dialogue as a way to deal with “man-made disasters”, that is exactly what stealth jihadists around the world recommend, too.

      But please give me ANY video example on the Internet of a such an event in an auditorium or campus venue where hard questions were asked by Christians and Jews, and the answers given by Muslims were honest regarding permission in the Qur’an for subjugation and death upon Infidels.

      Inquiries about such embarrassing reality produces just one reaction from Muslims participating in such a gathering: “You are a racist bigoted Islamophobe !!!!!!”

    • ChristianInDeed says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 3:26 pm

      Your words, which I must assume are spoken in jest, are in the worst possible taste.

      If indeed you actually do mean what you say (and you are not Muslim yourself attempting to use taqiyya), then you are an idiot of the highest order..Go get youself an education into how “inter-faith dialogue” leads to Islamic dominance of the weak-willed; they despise you because of your stupidity, as do I.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 3:28 pm

      Moshe,

      Was this young man’s message of peace and understanding more inspiring than chapter 9 of the Quran? If I were someone who believed the Quran was actually from God I would be following IT …. and I don’t get even the vaguest message of peace and understanding for Christians, Jews or other “infidels” out of it. The terrorists point to the Quran for their inspiration. What book is he reading?

    • Ann says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm

      But it’s just not true. Look at the dozens of verses mandating hatred just from the Qur’an, cited chapter and verse.

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

      Muslims of good will are just going to have to accept that theirs is a barbaric ideology of hatred and killing of all who are not members in good standing of their in-group. There’s no place in the world for it. There never has been. Everyone decent and compassionate is going to have to figure out how we move along to a post-Islam world.

    • Aingel Strong says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm

      He didn’t learn Peace from the Koran it is barely less than 0.01 of the content. Unfortunately is mates in the Ummah know the rest of the prophets fibs far better than your TV Actor ..

    • abad says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 6:21 pm

      The Muslim community never does waste time with the “that terrorist act is not Islam” bit don’t they.

      Of course they never, ever apologize for it, either.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 12:09 am

      Guys, I really do think Moshe was being sarcastic here, and describing how many dhimmis react.

    • Musalmaanmasala says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 2:32 am

      Moshe was not only being sarcastic he was just telling us to be careful of the Taqqiya from people like the “young British Muslim man of Asian heritage”.
      I realised that that the “young British Muslim man of Asian heritage” sod did not apologise for the murderous act of his fellow cultists but instead insisted that “the attacks in Manchester and London do not represent Islam and are in fact contrary to the values of the Holy Month of Ramadan”.

      BTW whats so Holy about Ramadan is beyond me?

      As for “Inter faith dialogue” Moshe it will be easier to have an inter faith dialogue with a tiger, lion and a wolf who look at you as their next meal but will only kill when they are hungry than to an Islamic cultist who is bred and brought up on hate for another human who does not cater to his “peaceful religion” and kills because the koran says it is good to do so during the “holy month” of Ramadan.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 2:44 am

        Yes–that’s how I saw his post, as well.

    • Debi Brand says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 3:33 am

      “His inspiring message of peace and mutual understanding suggests that we should respond to these man-made disasters with increased inter-faith dialogue.”

      Roger.

      Adjusting accordingly.

  4. jihad3tracker says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    David Wood made a three part video titled “The Psychology Of Islam”. In part 2, he offers a simple (and for me, blindingly obvious) reason for the Qur’an’s violent commands “Allah is the repressed subconscious of Muhammad.”

    If you are ever talking to a Muslim, and have enough people around so that an assault by that Allah-worshipper is NOT likely, quote David Wood’s assertion above … then wait for a reaction. I predict it will be, as the cliché goes, priceless.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 9:19 am

      “If you are ever talking to a Muslim, and have enough people around so that an assault by that Allah-worshipper is NOT likely, quote David Wood’s assertion above … then wait for a reaction. I predict it will be, as the cliché goes, priceless.”

      Do you speak from experience? If so… do tell.

  5. Michael says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    “These people say they are doing this in the name of God, which is an absolute joke.”

    No, it isn’t an absolute joke. It’s blasphemy. Islam is built on blasphemy, and every Muslim is destined to burn in hell for all eternity on account of it.

  6. gravenimage says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    “A man ran up to him and said: ‘This is for Islam’, and stuck a knife straight in him”
    …………………………

    This is what a “greeting” from a pious Muslim is like…

    • Benedict says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 7:28 pm

      Sometimes Muslim men pretend to be decent human beings in order to fool Infidels, and then they don’t greet this way.

      Your idea that there are hordes of Muslim men greeting this way is mistaken.

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 12:27 am

        Well, you are right, Benedict–certainly, Taqiyya is a factor.

        What I meant is that this is how pious Muslims greet Infidels *when the mask is off*.

        And no–I did not miss your sarcasm in the way you worded your reply–I know you are upset with my disagreeing with you that Infidel girls in Sweden are actually going out of their way to choose old, fat, Muslim men to molest them when taking driving lessons.

  7. overman says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    Obviously, allah is not God – only a muslim would make that assumption. We all know allah is a pagan moon god imitating the Divine – just as many fake gods do. Mohammed was duped, just like a billion and a half still are – as simple as that. Of course, Mo might not have even existed – the jury is still out on that, and Robert wrote a whole book about it – ‘Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins’.

  8. Westman says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    Perhaps the liberal disbelief that humans are basically competitive and willing to use force lies at the heart of their disbelief that Islamic ideology breeds violent jihadists. They do everything possible to discredit any kind of competition and then ask for advantages based on their education and experience – without realizing they are competitive in a way that creates hatred from those who can only compete in a physical way. The ultimate competition, of course, is war and it is physical.

    The notion that “we can carry on as usual” is an understandable delusion that we often use to protect our mental stability. Like the Israelis, life for Britons, however, will not return to normal with so many seditious “guests” and seditious Muslim citizens; conspiring for the advantages that an Islamic Britain will bring.

    The war has begun in spite of Theresa May’s delusions. Winston Churchill, if living today, would have a realistic assessment. May only runs a stewardship of peace and is unprepared for the future violence.

  9. Steve Klein says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:22 pm

    Is it just me? One guest after another on Fox News today has been boasting about how well American Muslims are assimilating into American culture. Really? Even John Bolton (I think?) said our Muslims are assimilating.

    • Tom says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:05 pm

      If that is indeed true then it is wonderful but reports have numerous armed training camps around the USA that radical muslims are using to train their fellow muslims in military tactics.

    • Benedict says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 8:05 pm

      No, Muslims are not assimilating, they are only simulating.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 1:36 am

      Yes, Steve, Tom, and Benedict–this is ludicrous, and you hear it all the time.

      Not only is it anything but true that Muslims are not waging violent Jihad against us here–just look at all the terrorist plots and attacks–but Muslims make up only .85% of the population here.

      Britain has more than five times the percentage of Muslim invaders; France more than eight times the number–*that* is why Europe suffers more Jihad terror attacks–not because there is an “American Islam” or because Muslims are “integrating” better here.

    • Debi Brand says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 3:35 am

      “One guest after another on Fox News today has been boasting about how well American Muslims are assimilating into American culture. Really? Even John Bolton (I think?) said our Muslims are assimilating.”

      Yup. Fools.

  10. Benedict says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    “We will carry on as normal,” she said.” –
    So will the politicians.

    • Arthur says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 10:01 pm

      And how is that working out for you?

      • Benedict says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 2:28 am

        A, here is how it works out for you:
        http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/266896/run-hide-and-deny-london-daniel-greenfield

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 2:38 am

          Fine article from Daniel Greenfield, Benedict–thanks for the link.

          Proud to see some Britons *did* fight back–all too few, though.

        • dumbledoresarmy says

          Jun 7, 2017 at 9:57 am

          In Australia, Pauline Hanson’s ‘One Nation’ party did a blistering *parody* of that ‘Run, Hide, Tell’ Meme and circulated it!!

          Whoever did the rewrite did a bl**dy good job on it.

          From an account of it in a news report – “Senator Hanson took to social media in the immediate aftermath of the attack to say “stop Islamic immigration before it is too late”.
          It was accompanied by a graphic mimicking the “Run, Hide, Tell” emergency message released by British police earlier in the day.”

          Here’s the text of the ‘rewrite’.

          http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-05/london-bridge-attack-political-leaders-wobble-towards-election/8589900

          “RUN – Australia is tired of Labor the Greens and the Liberals RUNNING their campaign that Islam is good for Australia.

          “HIDE – Australia refuses to HIDE the fact that terrorism is [mostly – dda] related to the Islamic teachings in the Quran [I would have added ‘and the Sira and Hadiths’ – dda]

          “TELL – Australia is tired of TELLING both sides of government that Islam is incompatible with Australian values.

          “STOP Islamic immigration before Australia hits five percent like England.”

          END QUOTE.

          Hear, hear!!

          British jihadwatchers might like to google around – you should be able to find this revised version – and set it a-circulating. Or be inspired to create your own rewrite…

  11. blood_eagle says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    After seeing this report, how can ANYONE in the West NOT realize we are at war??????

    • Tom says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:02 pm

      Politicians who refuse to acknowledge that fact should be tarred and feathered and sent out if town on a rail.

      The absolute wilful refusal to see the evil that is before their very eyes boggles the mind.

  12. Irene Brekelmans says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    “We carry on as normal” People don’t know any more what is normal or abnormal. They became zombies, who run around without any brains.
    Why can’t they give any answers on the question: What do you think will happen in the future? If there still is a future. But some people are still able to think so it is not over yet.

  13. John A. Marre says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    ‘This is for Islam’
    Authorities are stymied and unable to determine a motive. Police assure the public that the attack has nothing to do with Islam. Politicians tell the public not to blame the attack on Muslims.
    Probably lone wolf. He acted alone. No link to terrorism. Robbery probable cause.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:49 pm

      Theresa May would say it was his mistake for “This is for Islamism”.

  14. Tom says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    “We will carry on as normal she says” Therein lies the problem.

    Carrying on as normal means accepting that there is a fate accompli about all of these attacks and is falling into the narrative of the Mayor of London who said that terror attacks are part of living in a major city.

    NO …. ANGER and determination should be the call to arms for every British person to demand that their political leaders deal with this issue in a way that stops the hate speech in mosques and takes radical jihadists off the streets and into custody, whether or not they have actually committed an overt act of terror or are just being subversive in their actions.

    The time for patience and tolerance is past, the time for real action is here.

  15. Steve Klein says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    Why don’t British police shoot to kill?

    • Tom says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:17 pm

      They shoot to stop the threat … usually to the centre mass of the person.

      Given that it was a situation where civilian panic was involved and that the jihadis were moving targets, and that anyone firing must be aware of the background beyond the target so as not to cause collateral damage to running or hiding civilians, and that deciding who the targets indeed were, and getting the rounds away once they saw the vests, would have to be done in just a few seconds, also given that their adrenalin would be high, it was a great feat of professionalism just to have stopped them all as quickly as they did.

      Anyone who has ever been involved in a firefight knows exactly how it feels and how training is the greatest factor in succeeding or failing.

      • WPM says

        Jun 4, 2017 at 6:15 pm

        shotguns 00 buckshot up close a kill at distance drops off less chance of hurting innocents. Will not punch threw walls of buildings, will not go threw 4 layers of 3/8 sheetrock. Knock down of crazy lunatics with knives with 1 hit. If shot in leg advoiding vest bomb leg is removed.

        • Undaunted says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 11:33 am

          And you are legally responsible for every pellet that comes out of your barrel. Shoot slugs, not shot.

    • Arthur says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 10:30 pm

      Heck, they managed to hit the terrorists! Considering everything, that’s good enough for me! Spend some time at the range and you discover hitting your target takes practice and skill in the best of circumstances.

      Of course, some guys (Jerry Miculek, Bob Munden) have amazing (seemingly superhuman) skills, but you can’t expect that of the average person.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzHG-ibZaKM
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mgXARUt2jo

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 1:49 am

      Actually, Steve, British police *did* shoot to kill in this case–and I was glad to see it.

  16. Aingel Strong says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:07 pm

    As TR and others have pointed out Policing and Keeping this trash in Jail is worthy more than any economic benefit they could ever bring ,,

  17. mortimer says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    Muslims Believe Didbelieving kafirs are the Worst of Creatures

    Koran 98:6 “The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be in the Fire of Gehenna, therein dwelling forever; those are the worst of creatures.”

  18. overman says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    This apologist was one of the first Sky News wheeled out. One of the biggest Taqiyya Artists l’ve ever seen. And the interviewer kay burley, is the perfect example of a fake news puppet.

    Interview with Ahmadiyya Muslim Imam following the London Bridge terrorist attack

    • Tom says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:22 pm

      Thats the strategy ….. bring out the muslim “victim” and let them divide us by those on the left who always love a victim (albeit a phantom victim) and those who see this propaganda for what it truly is.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:28 pm

      Ahmadi Muslims are some of the greatest liars in all Islam. Whenever they speak they begin by implying that they speak for all Muslims, whereas they only speak for 0.3 % of all Muslims.

      Between 100% and 0.3% is a gulf of dishonesty.

    • Westman says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 12:15 am

      And the lies drip out like colorless venom, paralysing the media and sending the false message of Muslim Patiotism for country, the message of god to the Jews, not Muslims, about killing one is like killing all, while hiding the next verse Quran 5:33 – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter.”

      How about, “There is no complusion in our religion” and Muhammad said, “If anyone changes his Muslim religion, kill him”. A truly bi-polar religion.

      Between the Quran and Hadith, both full of contradictions and outright animosity toward believers, a Muslim who knows them can justify or deny anything. One thing cannot be denied – Islam’s command that the Ummah take over the Earth. And it’s not going to be peaceful despite the Muslim attempts to save the tattered image of Islam.

      Being a Muslim is a psychological nightmare – always worrying that someone, with a name derived from the word Muhammad, will commit some heinous act in Allah’s name; knowing it is only a matter of time. So you quote the peaceful verses, knowing full well that there are verses available to justify violence.

      • Debi Brand says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 3:40 am

        “So you quote the peaceful verses, knowing full well that there are verses available to justify violence.”

        And they do so pretending the “harsh” verses, doctrines, and “exemplary “examples are not there; do so, demanding the world join them in their selected pretense. Call all who refuse to do so bigots, racist, extremist.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 2:02 am

      Ahmadi always whitewash Islam–and pretend that this is mainstream Islam.

      The reality is that orthodox Muslims consider Ahmadiyya heretics, and Muslims regularly murder them.

      And they are not as “moderate” as they seem, in any case–they still support the horror of brutal Shari’ah law, just so long as Muslims gain enough power to impose it without resorting to Jihad.

      A few kudos to this reporter for not swallowing this Taqiyya without question, at least–but like so many, she does not really know what questions to ask. I doubt she understands that this Mohammedan is not a mainstream Muslim, for instance.

      • Westman says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 8:35 am

        Yes, graven, I remember a conversation with a friend, explaining points of Islamic doctrine. He said he had a friend who was a Muslim and never detected any animosity toward unbelievers. After an inquiry about which sect the friend was in, it became apparent he was a Baha’i. My friend had no idea that this was not mainstream Islam or that the Baha’i are persecuted by other Muslims, as being apostates(takfir).

        The level of ignorance about Islam, particularly in the mainstream media, is staggering. The media has become populist, as described in the bible: “For the time will come when people will not tolerate sound doctrine and accurate instruction [that challenges them with …. truth]; but wanting to have their ears tickled [with something pleasing], they will accumulate for themselves [many] teachers [one after another, chosen] to satisfy their own desires and to support the errors they hold” 2 Tim 4:3. This is an accurate description of today’s MSM from two thousand years ago.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 6:45 pm

          Actually, Westman, the Baha’i are not Muslims at all–not even “heretical” Muslims like the Ahmadi. They are also completely non-violent.

          Like the Ahmadiyya, though, the Baha’i feel duty bound to defend Islam.

          There was a Baha’i here for some time–worldcitizen1919–who tied himself into knots all the time trying desperately to find ways to excuse and admire Muhammed’s utter savagery, without actually condoning violence.

          It would have been funny if it were not so sad–and so dangerous to decent but clueless people like your friend.

      • Debi Brand says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 12:07 pm

        As ibn Kathir provides in his tafsir, “Allah commands Muslims to prepare for war against disbeliever, as much as possible, according to affordability and availability.”

        Therefore, we note, in that command, Ibn Kathir clarifies, “Allah” makes no differentiation between the believing Muslims and the disbelieving Muslims (those who disregard the commands in “Allah’s Book and in the Sunnah of His Messenger).

        Rather, he commands all who claim to be Muslims to do at stated above: “prepare for war against disbeliever, as much as possible, according to affordability and availability.”

        Moderate Muslims are foolish, asserting of their “Holy Book” and “beloved Prophet,” we have nothing to do with those text or with the commands and traditions on record of that man.

        All the while, building mosque and madrassa in which to rear their children on the said authoritative works.

        All the while, they and their following demanding of the rest of the world, we too exercise the foolishness and pretence stated above; at great cost, all too often, all too many comply.

  19. Benedict says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    Islam was invented by a murderer who wanted to justify the killings of random people in the name of Allah.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 4:33 pm

      ISLAM WAS INVENTED BY SUCCESSFUL BANDITS: the Sa’alik

      The Sa’alik were Arabian highwayman-gangs composed of ne’er-do-wells who were eventually attracted to Mohammed. Their leader, Urwah Bin Zayd al-Uzedi, was a sooth-sayer and prophet inspired by the Jinn (familiar spirits). Mohammed’s mother was also a sooth-sayer. When Mohammed failed to attract people to his religion of peace in Mecca, the Saalik and Ghifar tribe joined him in Medina and began a successful career as highwayman and slavers which lasted until the end of the Ottoman Empire in 1924.

      When the HIGHWAYMEN’s movement of disreputable Arabs become respectable, they created their own religion to make themselves feel better about rape, plunder, looting, robbing, perjury, misogyny, enslavement, bigotry, racism, plagiarism and, of course, murder.

      • Benedict says

        Jun 4, 2017 at 4:37 pm

        You are well-read, mortimer – always enjoy your comments.

      • ChristianInDeed says

        Jun 4, 2017 at 4:41 pm

        This is the email link I rec’d in reply to your post.

        Mohammed’s mother was also a sooth-sayer. When Mohammed failed to attract people to his religion of … Continue reading “A man ran up to him and said: ‘This is for Islam’, and stuck a knife straight in him”

        IF ONLY…

      • overman says

        Jun 4, 2017 at 4:58 pm

        Actually, mortimer, that makes perfect sense. l can well believe the jinn are behind the origins of lslam.

  20. mortimer says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    Muslims Believe Disbelieving Kafirs are the Worst of Creatures…Killing Them is a Small Matter

    Koran 98:6 “The unbelievers of the People of the Book and the idolaters shall be in the Fire of Gehenna, therein dwelling forever; those are the worst of creatures.”

    Tabari IX: 69 – “Killing Infidels is a small matter to us.”

  21. Guy Jones says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    Follow the path of Chamberlain, or, the path of Churchill — that is the U.K.’s stark, simple choice, at this juncture. History has taught us how those two varying approaches to confronting fascistic, totalitarian evil worked out. If the lessons of history are ignored, then, the U.K. is lost and will be swallowed by the dark maw of Islam.

  22. Steve Klein says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    ‘Susan Rice slams Trump’s ‘travel ban’ proposal’

    Devout Muslims would drag Susan Rice’s treasonous, naked body through the streets of Gaza or Aleppo. Doesn’t she know it?

  23. IQ al Rassooli says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:42 pm

    Is Jihadism Rising in the West? Why?

    These are unfortunately irrelevant questions because Jihad against non Muslims was proclaimed and acted upon by Muhammad and Muslims for the last 1400 years and is MANDATED in Sharia.

    Dear British/ American/ European Infidels/ Kuffar, please always remember that as Infidels/ Kuffar/ Non Muslims, you are NOT the only ones targeted for Subjugation to Sharia or EXTERMINATION by Muslims (Arabs or otherwise) hence it is VITAL that you realize that one does not need more than two brain cells of logic to understand Muslims and Islam in a nutshell~

    Since every Muslim is Sharia compliant, every Muslim cannot ever be a Law abiding LOYAL citizen in ANY non Muslim nation because these nations do not submit to Allah’s Sharia.

    Hence every Muslim is the mortal and eternal enemy of every non Muslim Infidel/ Kafir on planet Earth (80% of current humanity)

    Every Muslim is a potential Mass Murderer the instant he/ she decides that he/she is NOT Sharia compliant enough. (just like in the current case)

    I agree that Not ALL Muslims are Terrorists BUT 100% of Terrorist attacks against Infidels/ Kuffar are committed only by MUSLIMS

    Every Muslim is therefore a hair trigger Time Bomb primed to go off

    Only in the WARPED imagination of leftists can one find Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist Muslims because in reality Muslims are Muslims just as Nazis are Nazis and no one ever addressed Nazis as Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist

    All other explanations are superfluous and redundant

    It is time for every decent and patriotic person to unshackle yourselves from the pre conceived but erroneous notion that ANYONE who is not a Muslim can make PEACE with Islam.

    All anyone in doubt has to do is READ only chapters 2 to 9 of Muhammad’s Quran and watch the repeated mass slaughter of unarmed innocent European and American civilians by Muslims proclaiming they are doing the butchery to PLEASE their demonic god Allah

    As usual, all that Europeans get after every Islamic mass murder are platitudes, meaningless expressions of sympathy to the hapless victims by the very leaders who are unwilling to protect their citizenry because of abject denial of all Facts and Reality regarding the TRUTH

    https://www.youtube.com/wat…

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

    http://www.alrassooli.com

    • WPM says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 6:19 pm

      +1

  24. pnr says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    http://dharmacivilization.com/2012/05/hello-world/

    Zero tolerance for savages.

    Gur Fateh: Ghar Wapsi to combat jihadist miscreants crying need of hour.
    Only Slaves leave home unarmed: take Amrit – man ought never leave home unarmed.
    Help us Kalki!

  25. Troybeam says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 4:45 pm

    Muslims and Muslim supporters need a one way ticket to the Middle East, Liberals as well, the West is not compatible with Islam so therefore Islam must be sent back to wherever they came from.

  26. Wellington says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 5:51 pm

    Fitting this Muslim barbarian said what he did before performing yet another barbaric Muslim action since Islam is evil, a religion of hate, a death cult, and wrapped up with many control-freak elements. But the main problem is not this heinous belief system but rather the refusal to acknowledge it as a heinous belief system. Even very fine and knowledgeable people like Daniel Pipes and Dennis Prager continue to look for a good Islam out there by way of a redundancy like the term, “radical Islam,” or by way of a phantom distinction between “Islam” and “Islamism.” This is pathetic, wrong, stupid, lethal and even unethical.

    Gotta’ stop. If it doesn’t, then precisely to the extent it doesn’t many Western nations remain in mortal danger. God knows Britain does. Holy hell, just look at the choice coming up this Thursday in the UK, i.e., between the abominable and ever clueless Theresa May and the even more abominable and even more clueless Jeremy Corbyn. Sickening that such a choice exists in the first place. But it has come to this because ignorance of Islam, of its many foul and retrograde intentions, still rules the day. .

    • WPM says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 6:39 pm

      Looking for good moslems is like looking for good Germans in Germany 1940 we can not let our nations fail, because we want to be nice. They had their chance the West has been very nice starting on 9/11/01. Time for hard men to make policy to protect the normal people who just want to go about there normal lives on earth.. You can not go about normal life if the Klan want to hang you, the Nazis want to stuff your family in an oven , and Islamics have a blood lust god who want them to kill ,rape, and destroy what makes life worth living.. They Islamic think they have a one way ticket to the great brothel in the sky if they die killing men ,woman . children ,old people, anyone not in there special class of misfits idiots. The Western leaders should know you cannot stop violent lunatics by playing “nice” with them.

  27. Stardusty Psyche says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    “These people say they are doing this in the name of God, ”
    –Yes

    “which is an absolute joke.”
    –Why? Who says god has to be good by our standards?

    “They are callous, they are barbaric ”
    –Indeed, as is god, assuming holy books accurately describe god

    “and they are absolute cowards.”
    –False. They have the courage of their convictions. In fact, these killers are highly courageous. As we faced from the Kamikaze the combination of courage and dedication to a barbaric ideology is homicidally toxic and very difficult to defend against.

    “We will carry on as normal.”
    –How admirably British of you, but I suggest some updates to your assessments of the enemy.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 12:11 pm

      Oh, look what the cat dragged in….

      They attack unarmed civilians, savagely stab defenseless women. They blow up defenseless little girls.
      That’s what is meant by cowardly. Kamikazes were at least fighting soldiers.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 6:58 pm

      I see that “Stardusty Psyche” is back with his ugly and tedious false moral equivalence. After an absence of over a year–if I recall correctly–I had rather hoped he was gone for good.

  28. Angel says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 7:28 pm

    Not much will change until the countries where these atrocities take place take the harshest possible measures, such as restore the detah penalty for anyone involved in the plot and destroy (not just close, destroy) the mosques where the killers prayed, plotted and were not rejected by the congregation. The message must be very clear: for every attack, a mosque will go down, with no possibility of rebuilding it ever. Too radical? Go tell that to the families of the victims. Besides, it tales radical action to remove radicals. Teddy bears, cards and candles won’t cut it.

    • davej says

      Jun 4, 2017 at 7:57 pm

      Well said.

      Where is the outrage? Where is the resistance to this insidious and Evil force?

      Unfortunately, as with rats and mice, “extreme” measures must be taken.

      (Apologies to rats and mice – they are pests but are not actively trying to kill us in an organized way).

  29. Dov Berrol says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Close all mosques in all western countries – no permits for these to be built any where in Europe and the western hemisphere. If Muslims want to hear an Imam spew hate-filled sermons, let them move to a Muslim country. All Muslim charitable organizations and schools must be stripped of their charitable tax status. Islam must be treated like Nazism – put on the margins of western society. No official recognition of their holy days either – I am angry that all day planner / agenda inserts now include all Muslim holy days! Enough is enough!

  30. Adam says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    Which is the larger enemy of a free and righteous people?

    The Communist/Socialist/OneWorldUNer’s in charge of the west or the Mohammedan’s ?

    Why do we waste resources on the EU, middle east, what is to be gained? South America, Central America, Mexico and Canada never in the news. Everything must be fine and dandy.

    Jesus Christ, Family, United States of America. Find your place the music might stop at any moment.

  31. no_one says

    Jun 4, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    If I was responding with hatred to hatred, I would actually have two very good reasons to hate Brits and celebrate now. But I don’t hate them. I just feel sorry for them for being so naive. Like many people in the west.

    • gravenimage says

      Jun 5, 2017 at 12:01 am

      Wait–Britons raped and tried to slaughter you and all your family members–as Muslims are doing to them?

      When *did this* happen? I must have missed it…

      • no_one says

        Jun 5, 2017 at 12:21 am

        In 19th century. Turks were doing it to my people and the Brits called us names in their news papers. We were second hand people to them. Then they were scared we may go to UK to work, but were not scared from the muzzies. The reason I didn’t end up in the UK and now I don’t regret it anymore.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 2:43 am

          You seem to hate Britons far more than you do Jihadists, no_one.

        • WPM says

          Jun 5, 2017 at 10:37 pm

          News flash all British people from the 19 century are dead ,all slave owner from 19 century America dead, you should be happy and thank God you do not live in Turkey. By the way there was no great immigrations of Moslem to England in the 19 century either. The people in present day England or Western Europe are not responsible for every wrong done by there dead ancestors. You “don,t regret it anymore” so you did regret it at one time? You want special treatment for wrongs done over 100 years ago get the f*ck in line. They called your people names in the papers over 100 years ago the English did not like your people over 100 years ago ,they did not like Catholics, Jews or Hindus either ,or blacks what does this have to do with innocent people being murder by madmen Islamic all over the world in 2017????

  32. Thaddeus Lovelock says

    Jun 5, 2017 at 7:47 am

    It is the whole Islamist worldview or philosophy that is the problem. Islamists see themselves locked in an eternal struggle with the unbelievers.

  33. Laura says

    Jun 5, 2017 at 8:20 am

    It’s the muslim ‘holy’ month of Ramadan, so what did we expect?

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