These “green-on-blue” attacks show the futility of trying to distinguish “moderates” from “extremists” in Afghanistan, particularly since the U.S. military is still committed to ignoring, as opposed to understanding, the jihadis’ motivating ideology.
Our troops are being put in harm’s way for nothing in Afghanistan — for a war without a goal and without an end point. All of them should be brought home immediately.
“3 injured as Afghan soldier opens fire on US soldiers in ‘green on blue attack,'” AFP, June 17, 2017:
At least three US troops were wounded Saturday when an Afghan soldier opened fire at them at a military base in northern Afghanistan, the defence ministry said, in an apparent insider attack.
“Initial information shows three US soldiers visiting the base were wounded,” ministry spokesman Mohammad Radmanish told AFP, adding that the attacker had been gunned down.
The so-called “green-on-blue” attack at Camp Shaheen close to Mazar-i-Sharif city is the latest in a string of incidents where Afghan soldiers have turned their weapons on international forces training them.
It comes as the United States is expected to send more troops into the lengthy conflict at a time when the Taliban are ramping up their campaign against the Western-backed government.
US-led NATO forces confirmed that American soldiers had been wounded in “an incident” at Camp Shaheen, without specifying a number.
“At this time we can confirm there are no US or NATO Resolute Support fatalities,” the international coalition said in a brief statement.
“US soldiers have been wounded. One Afghan soldier was killed and one was wounded in the incident.”…
Debi Brand says
Insane.
As I spoke to over a week back when Three more of ours where slain at the hands of our “alleged” allies.
http://www.debibrand.org/unforgivable-negligence/
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Stan Lee says
Afghanistan has been in the past exactly like it reveals itself today, back to the time when Alexander the Great’s forces occupied (they thought!) Afghanistan. Every foreign army has suffered sneak attacks from Afghans more loyal to tribal laws and policies than they are to the concept of the nation of Afghanistan.
Highly trained armies exist to deal with highly trained military adversaries. Such is not the case with Afghanistan. We have trained a certain amount of Afghans in U.S. military orientation, but when the question becomes whether they’ll be loyal to tribal connections, or to an Afghan government,plus Afghan forces trained by U.S. advisors,, we are on very questionable ground. Ergo, the attacks by U.S. trained Afghans against U.S. advisors or the contingent of any foreign troops including Americans there.
I think it is far easier for Muslims from other Islam-dominated countries to make more headway with Afghans than it is possible with U.S. military stationed in Afghanistan. We are modern, but the Afghans seem satisfied to remain the same people who fought Alexander the Great and finally he left Afghanistan rather than to continue with troop losses and making little to no progress in the time he occupied Afghanistan. Surely, Afghans will suspend their attacks for modern transportation such as motor bikes, cars, and trucks. Maybe radios and cell phones too. But that doesn’t cause them to become another type people. They will still be Afghans, divided into traditional tribes. Perhaps I cannot realize why we MUST be there, I’d like to know what purpose is so worthwhile that we must allow them to incur losses upon us. I see another Vietnam developing.
Debi Brand says
“I see another Vietnam developing.”
I’ve witnessed one to this date 16 years running.
Blood and flesh we lay on our altar of sacrifices for the alleged “soul” of Islam.
As we, along with the “Moderates,” do our level best to scrub Islam free of Islam—Islam as the authoritative works of it show it to be, which is Islam as the alleged “Messenger of Allah” lived it, preached it, built it.
Thus, Islam as disclosed by the “Book of Allah and the Sunnah of His Messenger.”
Why do so many so-called Muslims want little, if anything at all, to do with what is written in the alleged “sacred” shari texts?
Why are there so many willing fools and cowards among us who, in face of Islam, are willing to also pretend what is written in the above stated works is not written there?
People, prepare you sons and your daughters, prepare, to the best of your ability to do so, your homes, and hearts for the cost we are willing to pay, the spade to the heart, the home, the life, we are willing to accept, to “salvage,” beautify, and exculpate the “soul” of Islam.
RickMT says
It stinks just like Vietnam. No American deserves to die in a war the US Government has no intention of winning. The troops deserve better than this, and they should not occupy a muslim country unless it is smoldering and glowing with zero sign of human or animal life.
Jean Terry says
I guess I have to wonder too why we are there. I hate hearing of our soldiers murdered by these people. They are sitting targets. I think the two writers above are correct and I wish that the president and his advisors would look at this some more. It seems like most of the leaders of the world refuse to acknowledge what the Koran says and the real threat from people who believe the Koran literally. I do think President Trump takes the threat more seriously. Barack Obama did not.
StacyGirl says
There’s nothing to win here and even one life is too much to lose. Let’s put the Afghans at the frontline of their battle for whatever it is they expect us to die for. We can sit back and call the shots. If Mattis were the mad dog we’ve been told he is, this would not be happening.
Debi Brand says
Well stated, StacyGirl.
Irene Brekelmans says
Americans, I think that everywhere you train islamic soldiers from where ever, watch out, you are training people who will use their training AGAINST you. From your training they know exactly how you think and what your ways are. Pls, take out your equipment and soldiers and planes and move back to your own country. Think about what you are doing, every time they attack you and you can not live with those people together in compounds. You will get war with the same people who you trained and where you paid for. Bij the religion of peace !!!
Godwin says
America never says “die” in training Islamist soldiers. It should train the Kurdish fighters who are ever grateful to It
PRCS says
Sounds good, but not sure Afghanis would welcome Kurdish soldiers.
Tribal thing.
Irene Brekelmans says
Me, Irene, sorry for the last phrase, it should be: and where you and your taxpayers paid for. And that all for the religion of peace, it costs you everything.
mortimer says
The goal of the war in Afghastlistan is to finance a bunch of vicious bastards so they can get rich while keeping the other bunch of vicious bastards to get rich.
Debi Brand says
“The goal of the war in Afghastlistan is to finance a bunch of vicious bastards so they can get rich while keeping the other bunch of vicious bastards to get rich.”
And so–are you saying that is not a noble cause? not a cause worthy of the spent lives, limbs, and dreams of our sons and daughter’s, as in what our leaders tell us of this cause?
Berengaria says
This is the result of that most deadly Order: “WIN THE HEARTS & MINDS OF THE ENEMY”! That Mission Statement set up our men for DEATH. A Direct Betrayal of the Military Man & Woman.
Debi Brand says
Yes, Sir. B. Across the board there.
IndianTiger says
Folks: my country and my people have 1000 + years of horrific experience with islam. It is IMPOSSIBLE for islam to live peacefully with anyone including other muslims. Repeatedly, you will see muslims bite the very hand that feeds them. In this case, they turned against those who trained them. This is sad but not surprising. The world would be better place without islam.
PRCS says
A better place.
Which will occur first?
The end of Islam or the destruction of a major Western city?
Daniel Triplett says
Sadly, this is not a new phenomenon.
Historically throughout the Afghanistan and Iraq Campaigns, one of every 7 US KIAs are “Green-on-Blue.”
After 16 years, $6.5 Trillion, and the ultimate sacrifice of over 6500 Patriots, Afghanistan and Iraq are worse now than the day we first set foot there.
Let’s bring all Allied personnel home.
We have nuclear weapons for a reason. Let’s learn from our grandfathers, and get this mess over with now.
Debi Brand says
Amen, D.T.
As you well know, you signed all those crucial lines, not once agreeing to be foolishly spent.
But on every crucial line on which you signed your name, you did so therein affirming what, if need be, you were willing to die fighting for, what, if need be, you were willing to die doing.
Not on one line did you or any one of our Service members sign their names to be foolishly spent, to be made easy prey and pickings for an enemy we still refuse to properly identify.
Daniel Triplett says
Yes Debi, there’s no excuse for risking our Patriots’ lives when we have strategies and modern weapons systems/technologies that will accomplish the same objective faster, with little or no risk.
The ROE must change too. The duty of the POTUS is to succinctly, on a half sheet of paper, define our National Objective; to define the definition of success. Then unleash our military to use all the resources available, at their discretion, to successfully achieve our National Objective in short order. The more the White House keeps its hands off at that point, the better.
Further, the military itself must push decision-making authority down-rank, so the attack pilot, or the sergeant leading a ground combat element, etc., aren’t required to radio in up the chain to some lawyer behind a desk for permission to conduct kinetic (lethal) strikes. The Generals must trust the front line war fighters to decide who the bad guys are. Sure, occasionally mistakes will be made, especially when our enemy wears no uniform; but we must accept that if we want success in the big picture.
President Trump has demonstrated respect for this principle, already delegating to Mattis the authority to determine troop levels. I don’t think Mattis is the right man for the SECDEF post though. We need someone like Gen Curtis LeMay in that post: A Curtis LeMay with a Robert Spencer grasp of the Islamic threat.
If properly delegated the authority, there’s no war imaginable our military couldn’t win quickly (inside six months).
Debi Brand says
Roger that, DT, the gamut.
somehistory says
No moslum is to be trusted. They have loyalty only to the devil and that evil demon tells them to shed blood.
No loyalty to family…beat and kill their own wives and children.
No loyalty to neighbor…if that one is less devout…killings for the least of *reasons*
They have been killing U.S. and British and others because they are built that way from the inside out. No *training* will root out what satan has implanted in the devout.
If the soil is such that satan’s seed can take root, it is a done deal.
moslums are not to be trusted.
mortimer says
somehistory is right in ONE sense that no Muslim may be trusted … Muslims cannot be trusted regarding the issue of JIHAD.
Because of TAQIYYA, Muslims do not even trust one another. Muslims should never tell the truth about jihad to the dirty disbelieving KUFAAR.
No Muslims should ever GIVE AWAY the truth about jihad. ALL Muslims, therefore, conduct VERBAL JIHAD, but less than 1% conduct military jihad.
When the 15% of Muslims who support terrorism have a gun in their hands and NATO soldiers standing in front of them, they are in an excellent position to conduct jihad and receive the 72 virgins (many more virgins are earned during the month of JIHAD … RAMADAN).
mortimer says
1% of Muslims or less are jihadists. 15% of Muslims self-declare as supporting Islamic terror groups. 65% of Muslims want Sharia law imposed on all countries. 65% of all Muslims want a caliphate (just like ISIS). However, 100% of all Muslims conduct VERBAL JIHAD by lying about, concealing and obfuscating the meaning, the motives and the method of jihad.
100% of all Muslims TELL LIES about jihad … or else they have left Islam.
Arthur says
Yes Yes Yes! Why isn’t everyone screaming this from the streets?
Permanent occupation of Afghanistan is not a sound strategy for prevention of further jihad. It isn’t working!
Matthieu Baudin says
An honest appraisal of the gains and losses sustained during the long counterinsurgency war in Afghanistan needs to be set beside an appraisal of the years of the Soviet Military Occupancy that ended in capitulation. The Cold war has been over for twenty years now and its time to rake over the coals to see what we can learn from the latest Afghan Wars.
Savvy Kafir says
We should not have any American soldiers in any Muslim countries — and certainly not Afghanistan. When we need to deal with a threat there, it should be done via air strikes. The idea of nation-building in that part of the world is absurd.
underbed cat says
I agree, ignoring the doctrine and war fighting strategy of sharia which is Islam, is deadly and will never bring results to end the conflict.
This is so frustrating to know that the information of the ideology is not priority, and the insidious predator is viewed as a partner to fight on the war on terror as the partner that hold to the same sharia and sura’s of the Quran and they are fighting each other for control for the caliphate. The results are clear and the infiltration grows in the target countries that is a fight against each other for sharia and Islam to dominate we loose precious lives that bring grief to the wives, husbands, children and parents of the military families and the deception of the plan never gets revealed until the growth of sharia influence exposes the nature and many lives are lost. I had hopes that our current president had these concerns and knowledge, but he has handed over control, and is fighting for his recognition. He may not recognize, I believe that the voters heard his message that ” something is wrong they want to kill us”and thought he was well versed in the doctrine of Islam. He needs the experts of the doctrine that he cannot not find or rely on in the MB but in the people who the defense department did not acknowledge and were dismissed…when they had the facts thru study. To the muslims we are the terrorists as they state in the sura’s and act on intermittently on our bases, homeland since it is intrinsic sharia nature. Green on blue attacks should be a clue.
Henner720 says
With muslim you never know when, who and how they turn zombie.enflame.post islam-programmed-childhood disorder i think.leads to madness more often than not.?.the scary is the unison 1.7 billion voiced madness and cover up, you never know who blow u up.once muslim once maybe a blow upper.society with millions of unpredictable mahound timebombs.we can not wait and get us all killed.the libs can not ask us to willingly letting us get killed.we are dumb but not stupid.