The Islamic Council of Victoria has said Muslim youth should be provided with taxpayer-funded ‘safe spaces’ where they can make ‘inflammatory’ and ‘frank’ comments.
Venting only reinforces negative behaviors; this bizarre request is a clear attempt to allow for jihad plotting, as Victoria’s premier Daniel Andrew pointed out:
“We’ve had a constructive relationship with the Islamic Council of Victoria but … proposing to create a space where people can just rant … this is a hate space. The notion you can safely, without being monitored, without being picked up by authorities, be involved in all the radicalisation we’re trying to diffuse makes no sense to me.”
While Australians remain at risk from jihad attacks, the Islamic Council is not only asking for “hate space,” but also claiming that suspicion of young Muslims is a human rights issue. Apparently murdering infidels is lesser issue for these Australian Muslims.
Furthermore, the Islamic Council is casting doubt on the fact that the deadly Melbourne attack was even a terrorist attack, stating that Yacqub Khayre was merely a confused man, even though he had prior training with the jihad terror group al-Shabaab and was placed into a state deradicalization program for six months before his attack, in another indication of the failure of such programs.
The Islamic Council of Victoria needs to be carefully monitored by authorities.
“Islamic leaders say Muslim teenagers should be given taxpayer-funded ‘safe spaces’ where they can make ‘inflammatory’ comments to help PREVENT them being radicalised”, by April Glover and Nelson Groom, Daily Mail Australia, June 8, 2017:
The Islamic Council of Victoria has said Muslim youth should be provided with taxpayer-funded ‘safe spaces’ where they can make ‘inflammatory’ and ‘frank’ comments.
In a submission to a parliamentary inquiry into freedom of religion, Islamic leaders have demanded government funding for anti-terrorism and anti-extremism should be used to create the religious sanctuaries.
‘To create safe spaces urgently needed by Muslim youth to meet and talk about a range of issues in emotional terms, where they can be frank and even use words, which in a public space would sound inflammatory,’ the submission reads.
‘That they cannot express irony, humour, anger or joy in words and facial expressions that would make them a target for ‘surveillance’ is a cause for despondency leading to mental health issues among many.’
The Council also points out the inability for Muslim adherents to safely practice their religion without feeling subject to surveillance is a ‘human rights issue’.
‘There are human rights issues which restrict Muslim’s in Victoria and nationally to enjoy the same human right to freedom of religion or belief that other Australians currently enjoy,’ it said.
The submission calls on the government to advocate higher research and programs to address the rise of other non-Muslim extremism in Australia such as far-right groups.
Following Melbourne’s deadly siege on Monday which killed one innocent man, Victoria’s state government will discuss radical new anti-terrorism measures, the Herald Sun reports.
The ice-addicted gunman was shot dead along with innocent receptionist Kai Hao, 36, in a bloody siege for which the militant group claimed responsibility.
Despite police labelling it a suspected terror attack, the state’s peak Muslim body warned against inflaming tensions and branded the gunman ‘confused.’
The council said while there are debates over the gunman’s motive, it was clear had a long criminal record and a trail of violence.
‘We understand that the police are investigating this as a potential terrorist attack but note that the perpetrator himself appeared to be confused as to who he was acting on behalf, claiming allegiance to both ISIS and AlQaeda, known enemies.’
‘Whether this act was inspired by an evil warped ideology or was in fact the actions of a deranged violent individual, this does not change the reality that a horrendous crime was committed in which an innocent person was killed, a woman was held hostage, and police officers’ lives were put at risk.’
They warned against provoking tensions with the Muslim and Somali community’s, which could promote further attacks.
‘What we must avoid is sensationalising or somehow attributing unwarranted significance to these criminals because it exacerbates prevailing fears and tensions and potentially encourages copycat behaviour.’
‘We would also like to express our support to the Somali community who will be unfairly vilified because of the actions of this one man. They have made, and continue to make, an invaluable contribution to Victorian society.’….
mortimer says
Yes, the jihadists need a place where they will not be arrested for being traitors or arrested for planning terror attacks against Australian citizens.
Why don’t they try Pakistan for a ‘safe space’ for jihadists? Or Somalia?
BLC says
No one else gets “safe spaces” to make inflammatory statements. Why would Muslims get them? Just because they think they’re special?
Papa Whiskey says
Of course they think they’re special — it’s in the ignoble Qur’an. Verse 3:110:
You are the best nation produced for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah.
mortimer says
Yes… well, Australia isn’t ‘special’ enough for the jihadists, so Australia should pay their one-way airfare out of Australia.
Don’t like Australia? Australia doesn’t need them. Let them find another country that will have them.
Jayell says
But the Somali Muslims make an ‘invaluable contribution to Victoria society’! It must be true because they say so!
BLC says
Papa Whiskey, that quote was written sometime in the 7th century. I know Muslims would prefer to live as though they were still back in the 7th century, but they have a myopic view of reality. Nobody calls for the death of all people who are different from themselves these days except Muslims. They’re asking others to tolerate their intolerance.
K-Britton says
@BLC – You are wrong ,The liberals also think that way.
K-Britton says
My comment is awaiting m o d e ra t io n, i dont know why ,i was just saying that there are some people that agree with the d e s tr uc ti o n of our nation , meaning the opposite of the r i g h t way. If you get what i mean,.
marc says
All new commentators or comments from a new IP go through manual moderation
mortimer says
‘DERADICALIZATION’ SAYS ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!
‘Deradicatlization’ is based on the false premise that there is a ‘peaceful Islam’ that decries jihad-warfare of conquest against the dirty kafirs.
‘Deradicalization’ also assumes that AL WALAA WAL BARAA (Islamic apartheid) does not mean what it says: That Muslims must HATE the dirty KUFAAR ‘for the sake of Allah’ … or they will GO TO HELL!
Whoever loves the KUFAAR is one of them… a kafir! All kafirs go to hell!
Only advanced, modern, professional DEPROGRAMMING will get Muslims RIGHT OUT OF ISLAM by exposing them to the ‘Revisionist’ teachings about the origins of the Koran, Sira, hadiths and Islam in general. Only professional DEPROGRAMMING will work to stop Islamic terrorism.
BLC says
Or death. Death could get them out of radicalization, too.
revereridesagain says
Mortimer, I was a cult investigator for over 15 years and knew many deprogrammers, and all of them had to deal with the same b.s. charges of violating “religious freedom” that we get thrown at us now. But they saved a lot of people from cult enslavement anyway, and you’re right, deprogramming — giving the truth about the cult’s teachings and helping the member free him/herself from the fear, guilt, and emotional dependency that keeps them enslaved to it — will work as well on Muslims as anyone else. If only we might have the freedom to offer it.
WPM says
There are too many to deprogram ship them to off the land they came from.
eagle says
Emphasis should be on removing the censored speech about the truth about the Muslim society and their agenda.The truth should be free and open for anyone to have.The Islamic Council of Victoria is equal to CAIR making demands on the American taxpayer. Obama set the precedence allowing the Muslim body in the United States special privileges allowing religious exemptions and freedom from pledging allegiance to America. What makes this country great is the American people can expect equal treatment under the law. The Muslim society expect they will be treated as they were above the law which is against the constitution and the core beliefs of the American people,. Obviously, the Muslim society is not comparable with the America’s core beliefs and the constitution. Emphasis should be on removing the censored speech about the truth about the Muslim society and their agenda.Think twice before you encourage the Muslim body to come to our community. No Islamic can be a loyal citizen of the US since Islam is prohibited by the US Constitution (Article 6). Remember, Islam is not a religion but a theocracy – a political system with a religious component.
John A. Marre says
After that it will be Muslim-only spaces where Muslims can kill infidels safely.
revereridesagain says
O deary me. You mean some of these delicate, sensitive moo-slum youth fear being caught saying things about Islam that we filthy kuffar would get charged with “hate speech” for if we were to utter them? That they might scream the truth about the violent, predatory, supremacist ideology which they have chosen to follow — because every adult is responsible for what he or she chooses to believe, regardless of what their “culture” teaches — and earn unwelcome attention as someone who might put that “holy writ” about striking at necks, conquering and enslaving unbelievers, stoning adulterers, hanging homosexuals, the niceties of sexually mutilating little girls and all those other sacred writings in the Quran, Hadiths, Sira, Sura, Kay-sera-seras into practice? It causes “mental health” issues that they are not able to scream these things on the street? I can understand that, given what it’s like not being able to speak a word of the truth about the viciousness of Islam without being called a “phobe” and a “racist” and threatened with ruin.
Got a deal for you, O Children of the “Best Nation Produced for Mankind”. You can have your tax-funded safe spaces and scream your real feelings to Allahoochiekoo to your little hearts’ content. And, because the spaces are tax-funded, in other words paid for by us filthy kuffar, we get to record every damn word you screech and snarl and shout and play them for the tax-paying public to hear. Deal?
Didn’t think so.
WPM says
Charley Manson would have been a nice guy a productive citizen of the first degree only if he had a safe space to vent. If only German high society show interest in Young Hitler,s painting maybe he would not have got frustrated and turn angry ? Lets have a safe space were young Islamics can sharpen knives , read books on bomb making ,find the best way to buy illegal firearms ,find trade secrets on how to get the most out of state welfare.
Shaun says
Two thumbs up .
K-Britton says
Three thumbs up.
somehistory says
Such audacity (rude, insolent, impudent). Demanding paid places to plan and plot and foment murder.
There is no low to which the beast from satan the devil will not sink or lies too bold to further their evil.
Demanding that the public pay for their own murders, by way of paying for places where the murderers can plan the attacks.
Shmooviyet says
This is beyond ridiculous. They’re getting ‘depressed’ because they can’t publicly jump up in celebration of jihad.
If a group’s expressions of “irony, humour, anger or joy” mean getting together to chant and scream “death to infidels” and praise the latest successful (bloody) attack, the gov’t OWES its citizens protection from THAT mindset, not ‘safe spaces’ for the celebrants!? Like others have stated, go elsewhere if your expressing hatred, misery & death for others.
Eventually the entire country is one large, miserable ‘safe space’ for islam, with a bit of ‘deadly space’ left for any remaining unbelievers.
Irene Brekelmans says
Aren’t there enough moslim institutions, clubs , whatever and do we have to pay for that? And do you think, we believe not one word of it. A place where you can plot further how to kill the next people or rape them. You pour souls, don’t have to smile and enjoy yourselves. That is what Islam does to you.
Muslims should not have any more places, mosques or anything. They are not above the lawMay be we should ask for more places too and have the leftists pay for it. Somehistory is absolutely right, we should pay for our own killing and rapes, etc. I don’t think even that you can deradicalise them, in the first place they don’t want to, second place if they say they want to, they lie. I will never believe muslim people any more, neither the leftists. What an idiots, but the tim will come, that governments have to excuse themselves and so will the muslems and I can only hope for you, that we, thepeople are able to forgive you.
Oscar says
Dan Andrews is of the hard extremist far.
The government which he leads has promoted LGBTIQ indoctrination of elementary school children. It allows Antifa thugs to get away with violence with their attacks on peaceful demonstrations and has allowed an environment to develop where they have conducted a personal attacks in public on one of the few mainstream media journalists to question Islamic supremacism and Antifa, and attacks on free speech.
So for Andrews to baulk at this demand and grasp that it is about hate speech is truly extraordinary.
Oscar says
^^^
..far left.
somehistory says
One other point: There is no “joy” in islum.
For the simple reason that “JOY” is a fruit of God’s Holy Spirit.
islum has no Holy Spirit from Almighty God, so therefore islum and moslums cannot have “joy.”
islum and moslums have *glee*…evil glee and that is not anywhere near joy.
Michael Casmer says
now I’ve heard it all. Maybe we should provide “safe spaces” for white males in the US for them to express themselves too
Buford says
I have a better Idea Muslims can pack there shit & go home.
Arian Smith says
Give em a safe space, bug and record it, then arrest them for inciting terror.
dumbledoresarmy says
Neat.
And after arresting… deport them to the ‘safe space’ they’ve already got.. the wretched Dar al Islam.
Eyes Open says
So espousing jihad and inciting hatred is part of religious freedom now is it. Muslim thinking is altogether warped. This is Islam. A sad legacy of an evil man.
Matthieu Baudin says
They can find plenty of ‘safe places’ to expend their energy and have a good rant within numerous foreign Muslim countries.
dumbledoresarmy says
Exactly.
And that is what those who made this ridiculous, arrogant demand, should be told, point blank, and publicly.
Want a safe space where you can hate on us Infidels to your hearts’ content? The airport is thataway; there are 57 Muslim countries in the world where you are free to do the Islam thing; now get going!
the hermit says
A safe place for this scum would be a gym, where many normal people vent their spleen on a punching bag.
Or maybe a pub, where a sympathetic bar attendant can help calm the wounded beast.
But no.
Muslims want the government to fund a safe place..
The only safe place for them is in a coffin, wrapped in a pig carcass, burnt to a crisp, and the ashes thrown out to sea.
dumbledoresarmy says
Dar al Islam.
Mohammedans anywhere else in the world can be told that if they want somewhere to rant and rave and indulge in orgies of hatred of the Infidel, they can shove off, back to the Dar al Islam. And never come back out.
Send them all there and tmake them *stay* there. Because the miserable horrible state of those mohammedan lands is sufficient to convince most sane infidels that a whole *world* transformed into dar al Islam would be a nightmare; it would be like Tolkien’s fictional “Land of Mordor”.
Of the ten countries in which it is most dangerous to be a Christian, the top *nine* are Muslim.
Muslim countries also TOP the list of the ‘world’s worst countries in which to be a woman’.
That tells us that we do NOT want any more of the world’s countries to be Islamised; the ones that are Islamised already are *ruined*.
Time for a strict containment and curtailment policy.
SK says
Venting? People vent here in the comments!
OMG says
We already have these places. They exist in prisons. Sadly the dangerous dickhead Andews governing the state of victoriia has the worst migrant violence fully imported from somalia. African Muslims was always going to end badly. Nobody in his Government knows what to do. Minority groups should not be pandered to.
p says
A big sharia violation in Canada: $80,000 fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpPdY-QaxOM
There is your safe space, plus money
Frederick Middleton says
These safe spaces already exist, they are called Mosques – one could say most universities today.