We have also seen Sharia vigilantes in Britain. In both Britain and Germany, authorities cracked down on them. But now a German court has allowed them to operate, and even if they’re ultimately stopped again, time is on their side. In a few years, they will be able to start up operations again, with non-Muslim authorities too weak and compromised to do anything to stop them.
“German court: Sharia police may patrol streets,” by Mordechai Sones, Arutz Sheva, June 29, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A court in Germany has authorized a group of self-appointed Sharia police to continue enforcing Islamic law in the city of Wuppertal. The law they were cleared of vioilating outlaws uniforms that are threatening, such as those of Hitler’s brownshirts.
The issue has been brewing ever since 2014, when German politicians reacted strongly to reports of young Salafists conducting nightly “Sharia police” patrols in the city, ordering people to stop various activities, according to the International Business Times.
The men were photographed wearing orange hi-visibility jackets emblazoned with the words “Sharia police” on the back.
They reportedly approached passersby near nightclubs and gambling houses to deter them from un-islamic activities such as drinking alcohol and gambling….
Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere earlier said that the civilians could not patrol the streets instead of German police.
“Sharia law is not tolerated on German soil,” de Maiziere told the German daily Bild.
“Nobody can take it upon themselves to abuse the good name of the German police,” he added….
gravenimage says
German court: Sharia police may patrol streets
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Unbelievable surrender to savagery. Germany is now allowing Muslim thugs to enforce barbarism. I hope another court overturns this insane ruling–but it still sets a disturbing precedent.
Westman says
It’s also an unwise invitation to violence. Perhaps, allowing these Islamic vigilantes is how unwanted civil war will begin in the EU. At some point, German males are going to push back on this “macho” display from Muslim males. We will see replays of the Zimmerman-Martin conflict on a larger scale.
What part of “..forbidding what is wrong…[according to Islam]..” Q 3:104 , did the German court not understand? Muslims have an Allah-ordered obligation to be nosy and forbid to everyone, including unbelievers.
p says
soon germany will be islamic, and we will be at war with them yet again!
Nigel GFF says
If we modify our actions, apply restrictions, or criminalise ‘normal’ day to day behaviour, then we are ipso facto living under/in accordance with this imposed modifier, namely Shariah Law. Auf Wiedersehen Deutschland, and all the rest.
Larry says
I hope the Islamic thugs are wearing them, here in the US, when the fecal matter hits the rotating oscillator. Those bright orange vests will make fine targets.
Lynn says
Astute observation!
Bharat Mehta says
Present day German, under the presidency of Anjela Merkel, is following Hitler’s way, Nation above its citizen, was Hitler’s policy, violent and rapist Muslim above citizen…..she has make rapist and violent Muslim the ruler of citizen.
Have you anything to say ? say if you have something…
John Lloyd Scharf says
Your English is not perfect, but you did go directly to the problem. Every time the goals of society are put above the natural rights of the individual, civilization turns to savagery. Nazis, Marxist, and Mohammedanism are collectivist terrorism. I am not against all isms. I am for liberty as a libertarian.
I am a kufr. *KUFFIR:* _Persons having the quality or character of being intellectually sophisticated and worldly through cultivation or broader experience be able to recognize common human needs, and seek solely rational ways of solving human problems._ *KUFFIR do not treat others as objects by denying them the right of informed consent or making attempts to dehumanize them.*
mortimer says
What’s happening in law schools that produce lawyers or judges who support VIGILANTES?
Islam indeed supports SHARIAH VIGILANTISM! It is called HISBAH.
Islam is a VIGILANTISM cult.
Islam is incompatible with the secular rule of law. Sharia is incompatible with modern concepts of EQUALITY and PERSONAL CONSCIENCE.
pnr says
thank you for this valuable comment Mortimer: I was previously unaware of ‘Hisbah’.
WPM says
German Brown Shirts=German Islamic Sharia Police, what will happen when these nosey busy bodies run up against the wrong group of people on a dark corner and get beating to a pulp . Are there laws in Germany against harassment and stalking?Will these idiots in there orange vests have knives or clubs on them just in case a Kafar punches them in the nose?Germany can not vet all the “refugees” who will vet a group of thugs walking the streets stalking ,and harassing people going to and leaving night clubs?
DrSique says
At least orange vests are easier targets to acquire when the shooting starts.
Albert says
Why are the German judges making this fatal error? Are they so afraid of offending the Muslim community? Once Germany gives up its constitution it will become two states: secular and Islamic, and that is the beginning of the end. Separation of church and state is crucial for a western democracy to succeed. How far will the “Sharia police” go? Will they stop women who are not wearing a hijab? Will they harass Jews on the street, as has reportedly been done in Malmo, Sweden?
gravenimage says
All good questions, Albert.
Shari’ah Patrols have harassed Jews, unveiled women, couples who are openly affectionate (as in holding hands), people who are drinking, dog walkers, those suspected of being gay, Infidels walking too close to a Mosque or other “Muslim area”, and those who are eating or smoking during Ramadan.
For Muslims, shame is part of the pressure, but the threat of violence is *always* at least implicit in these encounters. If these patrols are not stopped by Western authorities, they will invariably become emboldened and increasingly threatening, to both lax Muslims and unbelievers.
Maria says
The German Judge may be a muslim.
nicu says
Seems all judged are bribed – or they are threatened by family members of these Muslims – this would not be the first time !
gravenimage says
Not necessarily–many Infidels still are in denial about the threat of Islam.
p says
why not? The courts back THEM now
CogitoErgoSum says
Nothing but gangsters. Next they will be making the rounds to collect the Jizya for “protection.”
Paul says
Yes, and I wonder whose side the judges will be on then? Hmmm…
mortimer says
THE TALIBAN HAVE BEEN AUTHORIZED TO TAKE OVER GERMANY!
The rape rate will soon skyrocket when Sharia vigilantes are there to protect the rapists from men who try to intervene against the rapists.
With such HISBAH vigilantes, no one will be able to defend women against this amoral RAPE CULT. No one will be able to stop Islamic murders of apostates or beatings of Germans who drink and are ‘punished’ by the HISBAH.
The German judges are doormen for EVIL.
p says
WE have our own liberals here
Bob says
And here in the UK!
Eva Reisenstein says
Have you ever noticed that rape is ALWAYS used against women, not just wanted the muzrats but in every conflict.
HIPS says
If I was German in Wuppertal I would carry a baseball bat called “Wonder Boy” and when one of those pedophile worshippers asks me why Wonder Boy, I’d tell them, “Because boy if you try to shove that Sharia horse shit down my throat and it will be a wonder if you’re still alive after I stomp your ass with this bat”.
Guest says
No, you wouldn’t. The real Police are very strict about anything they consider a weapon and anything else they don’t like. I once rode a bike on the street rather than bike path, which was under repair, and was immediately stopped by a Police car, told off by them, had my ID checked and told never to do it again.
The real Police can be very strict in Germany when it suits them.
nicu says
Police is only strict to germans – but Muslims may not be touched !
p says
wear a burkha them you can have a bat
Bob says
Again, just as in the UK – muslims’re untouchable!
Daniel F X Dravot says
Bravely spoken. When last in Frankfurt (May 2017) I noticed groups of military age muslims in every public venue I traversed. These groups were always in odd numbers, and never fewer than five in a group. My companion, Leiselotte, told me that while a couple guys would harass – or worse – unaccompanied women, the other members of the group would act to prevent Germans from interfering.
“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall never know what hit them.”
“Selig sind die friedfertigen, denn sie nie wissen werden, wie ihnen geschieht.”
Attributed to Adolf Hitler
ripp846 says
You’d be charged with a “hate crime”. Liberalism is destroying the world.
Emilie Green says
“The Court orders that the patrols may continue, but while going about their work members of the patrols must sing the Horst Wessel Song.”
CogitoErgoSum says
They should be required to wear lederhosen outfits also.
notmoron says
Does western Europe has MEN?
Rufolino says
Didn’t you know ? In W.Europe men are the new women.
Eva Reisenstein says
Very very good question, seems not.
Alexander says
Madness, that is what it is. Such news can really spoil one`s evening…
Joel Shapiro says
Maybe the only way to stop this is to exert massive pressure on the French government to allow catholic patrols, Talmudic patrols, etc. Would have to get a lot of people involved. I volunteer to help push for an aetheist patrol dedicated to stopping all forms of religious dogmatism, oppression and persecution.
notmoron says
These terrorists they can’t do that in Russia or others countries where there are Men
gravenimage says
The idea that there is no Shari’ah law in Russia is sadly mistaken, notmoron.
Haven’t you heard about what Putin is allowing to go on in Chechnya?
“Women in Chechnya Terrified as Government Openly Backs Honor Killings”
http://www.theblaze.com/news/2012/04/30/women-in-chechnya-terrified-as-government-openly-backs-honor-killings/
“Chechen authorities are arresting and killing gay men”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/chechen-authorities-are-arresting-and-killing-gay-men
John Hawk says
Germany has no interest in its own survival, so why should anyone else?
gravenimage says
John, if you believe that Europe’s largest economy falling to Islam will make no difference to the rest of the free world, you are quite mistaken.
Tom says
So when do the Christian, jewish, sikh, hindu and other religious police patrols start in Germany.
Any court of any western nation that allows vigilantism to officially take to the streets in any form is a totally bankrupt and corrupt court which must be disbarred from hearing any issues.
Anne Smith says
Nice idea but most Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Christian, Buddists etc. are probably too busy earning a living during the day and too tired to go out patrolling at night.
It’s alright for the Muslims living on benefits who don’t have to bother about going to work. A nice stroll in the evening is pleasant recreation for them.
notmoron says
Germany : Now is legal, “men ” can married a “men” and let Muslims have lots of kids.
END OF EUROPE!
Guest says
Don’t panic. This does not increase the number of homosexuals. Ie. men who don’t want sex with a woman anyway. Marrying the man they love is not going to change that.
Helping Germans who want to reproduce would be a good idea, but homosexuality is irrelevant to that. Don’t be sidetracked by what is really a very small percentage of people.
andra says
This “marriage for all”-law is not meant for the gays, they are only the vehicle the government uses for implanting Sharia law. Today they only speak of gays but tomorrow German law will accept the marriage with children, with several women, marriage of sex-slaves one-hour-marriage and what else Islamic perversion has to offer.
gravenimage says
Andra, *very few* gay people want legalized pedophilia or polygamy.
donnie says
Germans are idiots. Always have been and always will be.
Keys says
Will the Sharia patrol be at Octoberfest ?
Why only for Wuppertal ?
Will these patrols be able to shut down offensive non-halal eateries and butcher shops ?
Will the courts allow other types of patrols, perhaps a Schweinhund Patrol, so they are not discriminating ?
John A. Marre says
Check back next year during Ramadan. By that time there will be a few hundred thousand more Muslims in Germany, thanks to Merkel, and to fertility.
I’m sure the Sharia patrols will not be doing anything to stop Muslims raping, blowing things up and murdering people.
nicu says
Of course not – cos all these things are allowed in Islam !
clap says
How long until German courts give permission to round up the Jews?
Tom says
THAT …. is the million dollar question !!!
Irene Brekelmans says
Sehr gut, meine Freunden. “SHARIA MACHT FREI”
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on, Irene.
Rolf Wittwer says
Probably very soon, well organized resistance movements will and have to be be founded by autochthone Europeans.
Maquis-style WW2.
Eur says
In a few years we will have to flee to the mountain to fight against fascism (this time islam..which is the same), as our grandparents did against Franco in Spain.
andra says
I am sure that these organisations already exist in Europe. But they are not strong enough yet.
One example are the Identitarians for people below their 30ies. The Austrian branch has just chartered or bought a ship to patrol the Lybian coast and support the Lybian Navy to bring “refugees” back to Africa.
Jay says
Hopefully a higher court will bring Germany back to its senses.
Alien Republican says
“A court in Germany has authorized a group of self-appointed Sharia police to continue enforcing Islamic law in the city of Wuppertal.”
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Fake news.
The decision was that WEARING the garment with “sharia police” is not illegal.
gravenimage says
This means that the “Shari’ah Police” may present themselves as police in public. This is quite disturbing, even if it effects nothing else, Alien Republican.
Alien Republican says
No, they may not. That’s exactly the point. The orange garment with “Sharia Police” means NOTHING. You are NOT allowed to wear anyhting that could be mistaken for an official police uniform. Bye the way – you won’t find one single piece of uniform in Germany, past and present with the word “police”. If they try walking around labelled as “Polizei” – good luck with that.
On the related matter – Erdogan was denied speaking to the turkish diaspora this time. At least they didn’t repeat that mistake.
Still, Merkels willing executioners are busy trying dismantelng democray and introducng censorship for the sake of “freedom of speech”. Twisted double speak and sick as what used to be “liberals” and “democrats” in the US. The worst enemy is already within our society.
I hope that Trump will be a good and successful President and wash away the Obamanites all over the globe.
gravenimage says
Alien Republican, everyone here is aware that German is a different language from English–really, this makes no difference in one’s understanding.
SV says
Indeed. This wouldn’t be illegal in the US either unless their “enforcement” breached actual criminal codes such as assault.
CogitoErgoSum says
Can I wear a garment that says “Sharia Police Suck”…?
Mickie says
Grease some pigs and let them run hog wild through Wuppertal. That will keep the Sharia police busy!
Alien Republican says
There is the tradition of celebrating karneval alemanic regions and which presents it as subversive, mocking authorities and taunting political figure heads. It’s the pure anti-thesis to “political correctnes” and so anything, including islam is a potential aim of ridicule.
Here as some islam related impressions from the parades – you will hardly see something like that in the UK but feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
“Stereotypes”
http://blog.petaflop.de/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/ap_rosenmontagszug-duesseldorf_karneval-wirklichkeit_klischee_turbantraeger_selbstmordattentaeter.jpg
“Garbage bags”
http://www.duesseldorf-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/burkas.jpg
“Mullah-Burger”
http://www.kill-more-people.de/images/spiegel/0,1020,577415,00.jpg
“Humor censored”
http://www.duesseldorf-blog.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/attentaeter_satire.jpg
“Nothing to do with religion”
http://www.wz.de/polopoly_fs/1.1864955.1424082118!/httpImage/onlineImage.jpg_gen/derivatives/galleryParty/onlineImage.jpg
“Merkel” (pre-Trump)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Karnevalswagen_Merkel_in_Amerika_2003.jpg
davej says
Impersonating an officer of the law is and should be illegal. This is nothing but intimidation of kuffars to advance Islam.
Once they grant police powers to Muslims it is all over.
Joseph says
This is nothing short of INSANITY !!!. They are enforcing laws and codes that are ABSOLUTELY LEGAL in Germany and insisting on behaviours that infringe on people’s freedoms of speech , expression ,assembly as well as freedom to drink alcohol , eat pork products , or dressing any manner they choose. What the F*CK are these lunatic courts thinking ?. Even muslims should not be subject to these thugs in a non muslim society. If they want this in Saudi Arabia then fine , but NOT in Europe.
nicu says
Muslims can do what they want here – but we may not even TALK about their crimes 🙁
” IF you want to know who rules you , find out whom you may not critisize ” Voltaire
andra says
I have not even read about this in German MSM.
nicu says
F**** Hypocrites : in our city Muslims drink and smoke and they have gambling parlors !!!
It’s too late anyway for Germany : since 1945 the culture and tradition has vanished
WPM says
The Moslems will use this to enforce” Protection “money like the mob they {the Moslems} will be the only ones pimping, selling drugs, running the gambling parlors it is the oldest trick in the book. If you run a regular bar or night club you will pay protection money so the goon “Sharia “police do not harass your customers.
Don McKellar says
Unbelievable.
No Fear says
“They reportedly approached passersby near nightclubs and gambling houses to deter them from un-islamic activities such as drinking alcohol and gambling….”
Drinking alcohol and gambling? Mohammed encouraged rape, he beheaded hundreds of Jews, he stole, he lied, he had a woman killed, he threatened non muslims …………an excellent example according to his own book.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Their “orange hi-visibility jackets” are missing one key element: a bullseye.
Bharat Mehta says
This is re-birth of Hitler in judicial form. As Islam is pure Nazism.
RICHTHOFEN says
This is exactly how Hitler came to power! Be warned, Germans! Islam is Nazi(NSDAP) – Hitler admired islam and modelled his Third Reich on islam! The Grand Mufti of Palestine moved to Berlin to be near Hitler, and formed SS Divisions of muslims, who carried out some of the worst atrocities in the east
Johan Elzinga says
Perhaps in the same line time will come that we will have a germany only police. And a no religion in the streets police. And an anti leather enforcement department. And a no women on the street enforcing squad. And a gay bashing enformcent squad.
Perhaps those police squads can then start to bully each other. The court ruling was based on the assumption that no one had any reason to feel intimidated by those salafist idiots. Time will learn very soon if that is really the case.
Sarah says
What struck me the most out of this, was not the blatant cultural and social suicide that Germany seems determined to commit, it was not the comments of the Judiciary- a bigger group of traitors, would be hard to find, really.
No, what struck me was seeing 5 Muslim men wearing work boots and high-vis vests.
That’s a first. Germany just got 5 Muslims to don work gear and actually do some work for once. That’s probably the first time in their lives that these neck-beards have had to don work gear and get off their prayer mat’s and actually work for a while. Even if it was just for a photo op. They must be exhausted.
Always a silver lining if you look hard enough, I guess.
Bharat Mehta says
Nazism, which was Islam without Allaha, has same aim……holocaust….was born through Hitler, this time through Hitler’s Idealism….. that is socialism—national socialism.
If German Citizen has some sense, then they must rose on their own to destroy this idea of socialism with its root…..Christianity. Check the name and aim of Anjela Merkel’s political party. You will convince with this my arguments.
A European says says
Donnie says: Germans are idiots…
Well, Donnie, I am a German, and I will answer you. Generalizing about other nations is quite easy. Let’s generalize about Americans. Americans went to war with the Taliban , but failed to defeat them. The Taliban are still around and they are getting stronger every day. Americans went to war with Saddam Hussein who at least kept radical Islam at bay. And what did they achieve in Iraq? Yes, Saddam’s regime was toppled, but the country plunged into civil war and chaos. Did you bring liberty, democracy and prosperity to Iraq? No. Did you win the hearts and minds if the Afghan people? No. Finally, your troops pulled out of Iraq and ISIS emerged. Americans kept the war-machine going, that’s all ( one might ask, if this whole business wasn’t just about war-profiteering) So, if Germans are idiots, what are Americans?
Bharat Mehta says
Well, you present really stronger arguments, in response to Donne’s saying : Germans are idiots, you proved clearly that American are equally idiots, perhaps more idiots then any other nation on earth, which is my adding to your basic arguments about American.
Let us talk about ideologically ground. America and German both are nation, belong to Western Civilization, yet dominated by Socialism, you called it as left wing politician. This left wing —socialism/communism, are encourage by America under the title….free speech or freedom of speech, Islam is same as communism socialism. You know Hitler’s National Socialism? who is the first socialist ruler has invite Jihadi Muslim and use them as war weapon, to conquer the world.
What is stupid about America and German ?
I will answer…..this idea….socialism/communism/Islam….are enemies of Civilization, of citizen…..these idealist are encouraging war at the cost of citizen’s money.
I hope you both will grasp the essence of my arguments…..right ?
gravenimage says
There is cluelessness and denial about the Jihad threat all over the West. This is not a contest.
AJ says
What are Americans you ask? Not a country being islamized and sold out by Merkal. That’s what.
Tershia says
Looking back into their history, Germany has promoted violence in one way or the other on their own citizens and other nations. Their first attempt at genocide was their slaughter of the Herero, Nam and San people of then German West Africa (now Namibia) in 1904.
Nothing they do should come as a surprise .
Jacqueleen says
We won’t be surprised to find that when the Sharia Police shoot a suspect and claim that they were acting in accordance with Sharia Law and the approval of the local government, they will be commended for doing their job….WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WORLD? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO MORALITY, TO GOOD COMMON SENSE AND GOOD JUDGEMENT? WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO PROTECTING THE INNOCENT????
I am ashamed to say that I have some German blood…God help us! And, the Swedes are lunatics for taking in the ISIS quitters saying that they will change with a little rehab….LAUGH OUT LOUD!
Valkyrie Ziege says
; America did the same thing, during ”Prohibition”, employing, the extreme Christian Identity group, the Ku Klux Klan, to patrol, report on, and bust-up any place manufacturing/serving/consuming alcohol, and it led to Criminals being in the wealthy 1%. Germany should learn a good life lesson from that, no, wait, they did, and it was the ”S.A”., ”Hitler Youth”, and the ”S.S”. Oh, sorry, as you were.
gravenimage says
You are mistaken–the Klan was not used to enforce Prohibition.
John Lloyd Scharf says
The Klan was fundamental to creating Prohibition and most of its enforcers were KKK.
gravenimage says
John, many Klansmembers were supporters of Prohibition–but so were many peaceful groups like the Women’s Christian Temperance Union and the Anti-Saloon League.
But no–enforcement of Prohibition fell to the US Federal Government. Specifically, this was The Bureau of Prohibition (or Prohibition Unit), and they worked with local police and sheriff’s departments.
You are mistaken in believing that the Ku Klux Klan was ever part of the federal government.
John Lloyd Scharf says
The KKK was a significant part of the federal government during Prohibition; despite your intense denial.
John Lloyd Scharf says
Germans like bondage and torture. They are well known for it in the international community.
A European says says
John Lloyd Scharf says: Germans like bondage…
Mr. Hawkins ( a British citizen) is a theatre director who discovered in mid-life that he was a descendant of a sixteenth-century slave-trader called John Hawkins. In 2006 he was invited by a charity called “Lifeline Expedition” ( which organises trips to heal the past) to go on a “sorry trip” to Gambia.The upshot was that Hawkins joined 26 other slaver descendants in June of that year who paraded through the streets of the capital, Banjul, with chains around their hands and yokes around their necks. As they walked to the 25000-seater sports stadium Hawkins and the other participants also wore T-shirts with the words “So sorry” on them. Weeping and on their knees the group apologised in English, French and German to about 18000 People in the stadium…
So, the British seemingly like bondage and torture, too. Brits and Germans have at least one thing in common, don’t they?
John Lloyd Scharf says
You may be correct in your assumption from the observation of Hawkins, but the British like theatre. Having a stadium filled with an audience of 18,000 is an alternative motive.
The Brits, French, and Germans bought their slaves from Mohammedans. Trekking off into the hot muggy jungle is not a typical European pastime. Admiral Hawkins took a Portuguese slave trading ship as a prize and sold the slaves himself.
The good thing about stereotyping is it does not compel me to bash everyone or anyone in particular. Hawkins was, however, an atheist. The greatest population in the world has been enslaved by Marxist atheists like Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. Maybe this was not about Admiral Hawkins.
A European says says
Jacqueleen says
Please, stop fretting about this so-called Shria Police. Robert Spencer said in his article that a German court had authorized a self-appointed Sharia Police to continue enforcing Sharia law in the city of Wuppertal. He was right about the warning, but wrong about the facts. The court ruling stated that wearing high vis-vests with the words Sharia Police on them didn’t violate German law, and this ruling was based on the assuption that the behavior of this “Sharia Police” was not intimidating. By no means does this court ruling authorize them to enforce sharia law, this group has no authortiy, they are not allowed to act as policemen, they do not carry guns and handcuffs, they cannot make any arrests, do not impose fines and are not authorized to use force, if anyone does not comply with sharia law. Monopoly on he use of force is still with the German State and the police. Besides, the founder of this ludicrous bunch of salafist lunatics is in prison now. His name is Sven Lau, a German who had converted to Islam before he became a leading figure among salafists He is standing trial in Düsseldorf. Prosecutors accuse him of having been a supporter of an islamic militia called Jamwa, an Al-Kaida-like terrorist group which operated in Syria. Allegedly, he helped two of his salafist friends join that terrorist militia in Syria, he is said to have raised funds for them, to have supplied them with night vision equipment and to have procured a garbage truck which had been used in a terrorist attack, If this moron is convicted, he might spend up to 15 years in a prison cell.
Why are you ashamed of your German background? There is light and shadow in every human being, in every nation, in every race. Almost every nation on this planet has committed atrocious crimes against other peoples. But how does this affect you? Propensities for genocidal crimes are not genetically transmitted! Your President Donald Trump has Germans among his ancestors, too. His grandfather Friedrich Trump immigrated to the United States in 1885. He came from a wine-growing area in the Rhineland-Palatinate (south-west Germany) Once asked about his German ancestry he said that he was proud of it.
Tzila says
So, Germany will be losing a HUGE portion of “Tourist Money”–as no one wants to deal with these Thugs & Rapfugees anyway—much less if they are in ANY position of “Authority”.(The “Rape”/Grab & Grope” problem will probably increase–given their “patrol permission”). WHO the Hell wants to be accosted by a “religious fanatic”—while out having an ADULT BEVERAGE?? I an NOT Part of ISLAM—and I want NOTHING To Do With “It”. It neither speaks TO, or FOR Me!! It’s NONE of some “stranger’s” business WHAT I do, eat/drink, wear, or SAY!!
Wow— I bet Oktoberfest will be a FUN TIME with “Shari’a Police”!! Traditionally “Beer, Brats, and Boobs”… should we ADD “Bur’qas” to that, as well?? Or just cancel Oktoberfest–because there’s suppose to be NO FUN In Islam??
This whole MESS…. is Sickening….as to what the “Free World has not only ALLOWED—but the Globalists, and their LEMMING Puppets have INVITED In..
Larry says
America did destroy the Taliban in Afghanistan. The ones who survived ran across the border into Pakistan. Should we have pursued them? We had to go into Afghanistan because that’s where Bin Laden was and the Taliban refused to turn him over. As far as Iraq goes, I believe we should have stayed out of there until we were done with Bin Laden. Hussein was financing terrorism, and had off-loaded his WMD’s to Syria; so he should have been next on the hit list.
John Mollet says
this is a result of liberalism. This filth has destroyed the United States ,the Catholic Church, Europe and it will ultimately Western Civilization.We must fight this cancer with every fiber of our bodies . All these liberal heads of states should be tied to a poll and hoarse whipped then made to live in the mess they have created. St.Pope Pius the 10th back in 1912 once said ” Liberals should be beat around the head and shoulders and never count the blows” God help us all
gravenimage says
Do you have any problems with the horrors of Shari’ah law?
Lynn says
I think the picture accompanying this article must be of British Sharia Police since the word “Police” is in English not German. The German Shariah Police may not wear orange and so may not be as easy to target. It is also odd that the uniform pictured does not have Arabic writing identifying them as Shariah police. If they are primarily enforcing Islamic law on Muslims one would expect the name would be in both the local language and in Arabic so that new immigrants who do not read English or the local language would be able to identify the Shariah police. Of course, given the illiteracy rates in most Islamic countries, the immigrants may not be able to read Arabic either.
A European says says
Irene Berkelmann says: Sharia macht frei!
Ha, ha,ha! A very good joke. What about this one: There was a time, when many Americans said: Only a dead Indian is a good Indian! What might Americans say now? Only a dead Muslim is a good Muslim?
John Lloyd Scharf says
Patrick Henry advocated only giving homesteads in the interior to those who intermarried. Seven centuries before Europeans came to my ancestors lands in North America, Mohammedans were murdering Jews, Christians, and Pagans who refused to convert. Mohammedans lie, blackmail, rape, rob, torture, and murder in the name of their satanic god and his minion, Muhammad.
gravenimage says
What a load of rot, A European. Being concerned about Muslims raping and murdering us and imposing Shari’ah law is *not* the same as genocide against Muslims. What crap.
Bharat Mehta says
Sharia court is very serious political problem, and what I cannot understand is about Judicial stand, how a judiciary can interfere in to political problem?
Islamic Sharia is serious disturbance in to political realm. Politics is meant to protect interest of citizen, or broodily speaking interest of civilization. Where as judiciary decide only single individual case of citizen, cannot decide real political problem.
I think, German is surrender in to the hand of socialist, Hitler’s Nazism was also socialist. Be aware of Germany.
A European says says
Tershia says: Looking back into their history…
Yes, you’re right about the Herero and Nama. In 2015, the German parliament recognized these killings as genocide. Lieutenant-general Lothar von Trotha, his soldiers and those men who dispatched them to South-West Africa in order to quell the uprising of the Herero were certainly guilty of war crimes and genocide. But would you lay the blame on a whole nation, because a few people who belonged to that nation, had committed terrible crimes? There is no such a thing as collective guilt (Kollektivschuld). Von Trotha and those who were involved in these killings are dead and gone. No court on earth can judge them anymore, but History has already condemned them. Nobody should venerate them as war-heroes, they were criminals. But if you point out to the war crimes and genocides which had been perpetrated by other nations, why do you not take a closer look at American History? Let us see what we can find there?
Ben Kiernan, an american scholar writes in his book “Blood and Soil:” U.S.policies toward Indians did not mandate genocide, but it was practised when considered necessary.Its frequency increased with the spread and intensity of war, expansion, and agrarianism. In the initial opening up of the western frontier, and later in Texas, California and the Great Plains, genocides resulted from a ruthless policy of conquest in which Indian land was the prize and Indians the obstacle. Repeatedly, American tactics included threatening genocide, offering bounties for Indian scalps, and exacting massively disproportionate revenge for Indian atrocities. Seizure of Indian lands often meant massacring their inhabitants, and settlers’ extensive and later intensive cultivation of those lands rarely allowed Indian survivors a subsistence, provoking bitter resistance, sometimes to the end, resulting in genocide…Americans chose the most effective means of subjugating the Indians they faced. They sent groups of men, sometimes a dozen, sometimes hundreds, to attack Indian villages and homes, kill Indian women and children, and raze Indian fields. ( end of Quote). Did any U.S. Administration recogize these crimes as genocide,? Did the U.S. ever officially apologise to the Indians for these war crimes? Did the Indians at least receive any compensation for what had been done to them by white Americans?
gravenimage says
A European, almost all nations have some disturbing aspects to their history. The difference is that the civilized West–including Germany and America–acknowledge these issues, and work to right them where they can.
Not so Muslims, whose creed *sacralizes* atrocities.
A European says says
Bharat Mehta, Hitler’s nazism was also socialist…
As an expert of my country’s history, you are certainly familiar with the story of Gregor Strasser? He was the leader of the party’s left wing, and he had socialist ideas. He opposed Hitler’s anti-Semitism, he criticized his courting of big business and he was in favor of radical social reforms along socialist lines. But Hitler and Goebbels neutralized him politically. In 1934, during the Röhm purge Hitler ordered his assassination. He died in a concentration camp near Dachau. Since his demise, socialism was marginalized within the NSDAP. So much for nazism being socialist.
John Lloyd Scharf says
REALITY ORIENTATION: Nazis were National Socialists. Socialists kill other socialists. Lenin or Stalin is credited with killing Trotsky. Marxist Socialists have purges of anyone who disagrees with them. Check the history of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot. Socialism makes the state prime and the individual is a mere tool of the state; discounting individual liberty. Marxism has only replaced corporate exploitation of labor with state exploitation of labor. You don’t have to work for a corporation, but the Nazis and Communists forced labor on millions.
TRUTH: National Socialism and Marxist Socialism are two sides of the same coin of collectivism – socialism.
A European says says
graveimage says: what a load of rot…
Sharia macht frei (sharia sets you free)
I think you know what the commentator was alluding to? It was the motto “Arbeit macht frei” ( work sets you free) which the SS had affixed to the gates of some concentration camps where thousands of Jews had been murdered. Now, imagine just for a moment what would happen, if the federal government of Germany started deporting Muslims or putting them in a kind of concentration camp. There would be an outburst of indignation all around the world. Many would say: Look at these evil Germans. There they go again. Not a hundred years ago they gassed the Jews, now the are putting the Muslims in concentration camps. They are incorrigible, these Germans.
So, forget about deportation, forget about camps, the Muslims will stay in Germany. But what can be done in order to prevent Islam from seizing power in Germany?
Many commentators here compared Islam with National Socialism. Yes, there is a resemblance, but there are differences, too
The similarities first: Islam and Nazism have a common ennemy: the Jew. Islam is warlike, expansionist and supremacist -like Nazism. Islam and Nazism like strong leadership. The Nazis had Adolf Hilter, the Muslims have got Muhammed, the so-called Prophet..Islam and Nazism have a dichotomic worldview. Islam divides the world into the house of Islam ( dar al-Islam) and the house of war (dar al-harb), Nazism distinguishes between the realm of the aryan white race and the areas where racially inferior, mostly dark-skinned beings live.
The differences: Islam is a kind of religious totalitarianism, Nazism is secularist.Nazism divides nations and ethnic groups along racial lines, Islam distinguishes only between believers and unbelievers. Islam considers infidels inferior beings who have not the same rights als Muslims, Nazism says: Jews, negroes, slavs and other non-aryan people are racially inferior and therefore they can’t be treated as our equals.
Hitler collaborated with al-Husseini and the Muslim Brotherhood, that’s true. Hitler admired Islam( see Hitler’s views on Islam as he has expressed them in his table talks), but he certainly despised them as racially inferior creatures and used them as cannon fodder in WWII. You can compare Islam with any form of totalitarian ideologies – communism. bolshevism, maoism… and something of what you say will be true. But it is incorrect to say that Islam is Nazism/Fascism. Apples and pears are both fruits, but an apple is an apple, a pear is a pear, and Islam is Islam by the same reasoning. These comparisons are not important, they may get us sidetracked. Islam is an intolerant and supremacist religion/religious system, Islam is sharia law, and sharia law is dhimmitude for the non-Muslims .I think Islam is far more dangerous and powerful than Nazism has ever been in history. Islam is very alive, nazism is dead. Nazism was a man-made racist ideology, Islam pretends to be the unaltered word of Allah. According to Muslims, every word in the Qur’an has been spoken by Allah, its validity is timeless, nothing can be changed.. So, if you want to fight Islam, shake the beliefs of Muslims, confront them with the inconsistencies of their Qur’an, make them doubt its divinity, make them look from a different angle at their own traditions. Muslims are human beings, like you and me. They are not like dumb cattle, they are endowed with reason and empathy. Hate the sin, but do not hate the sinner. Don’t demonize the Muslims, educate them.
A European says says
John Lloyd Scharf says: Reality orientation
If you want to call a political party a socialist one, this party must meet certain requirements: il must be anticapitalist, it must strive to bring about private ownership and public enterprise and it must have plans to nationalize/socialize the means of production. Did Hitler and the NSDAP meet these requiremenents? Did they collectivize farmland? No. Did they nationalize key industries? No. Did they crack down on capitalists? No! On the contrary. capitalism flourished under Hitler’s regime ( Thyssen, Krupp, I.G. Farben etc…) So, assessing socialism in nazism, one must say that, according to classic definitions of socialism, Hitler and the NSDAP were neither socialist not marxist. Hence the equation of national socialism being much the same as marxist socialism is wrong. Socialism, National Socialism, Marxism… I think you get all these terms in a mess. Clear thinking necessitates clear definitions. I suggest that you read a good book about National Socialism in Germany ( Ian Kershaw, for example)
John Lloyd Scharf says
If you assume you are well read, you are wrong. The claims against capitalism are pure nonsense replacing one set of masters with another in socialism. The true difference is you volunteer to become skilled and decide who you work for under capitalism.
You negate your own argument by admitting their nationalism was socialist. The NSDAP were certainly socialist. You desperately want to deny their form of collectivism differed from Marxism. Your distinction is without a difference.
Marxist Commissars used, abused, and exploited workers than any Corporate Capitalist ever dreamed of. Do not try to tell me about Marxism. I read “Das Capital.” FACT, Marxism and Fascist “Capitalism” do not differ one iota.
Regarding reading books, you are deliberately ignoring the similarities between the NSDAP 25 points manifesto and THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO.
You obviously believe the State is more important than the Individual if you assume collectivist socialism is any different than collectivist fascism.
A European says says
I will tell you something about Hitler, the NSDAP and “socialism.” Hiter has never been a socialist or something like that. If there was a kind of socialist tendency within the Nazi Party ( The Strasser-movement propagated a kind of socialism), it was quickly crushed by Hitler and his cronies. At a party convention in the city of Bamberg (1926), when the people around Strasser had gained a certain momentum, they were voted down at Hitler’s instigation. Since then socialism within the NSDAP was dead. Later, Hitler modified the 25 Points-program of the NSDAP, just to make it compatible with the views of his financial (capitalist) backers. Since you are familiar with the 25 points-program, how can you overlook that all those points which sound like socialism ( point 11, point 13, point 17, for example) have never been put to effect when Hitler had the power to do that? No, Hitler used socialism, when it suited him. This “socialism” was fake socialism, a sleight- of-hand socialism, a game card that Hitler pulled out of his sleeve whenever he talked to socialists and workers. Hitler was a master of deception, a conjurer, a kind of evil shaman. If you must compare him, compare him with a taqiyya-artist. That would be quite accurate.
Of course, Hitlerism/national socialism and communism used similar methods, similar tactics – forced labour, slave labour, extermination of the undesired ones, police-state-methods, gulags, denial of civil rights,the media being forced into line… all true. But they had different dreams. Socialists and communists dreamt of a classless society, a kind of utopia where “equality and justice” would reign among all men. Hitler and national socialists dreamt of a pan-germanic empire -the third Reich- where a master race -the Germans- would rule over racially inferior populations. I think, John Lloyd Scharf, you are an intelligent person, but how can you overlook this elementary difference?
I have no sympathies neither for socialism/communism, nor for national socialism/fascism. Germany knew them both and they did a lot of damage to my country.
And I don’t think that the State is above the individual, the State must guarantee civil rights and civil liberties of the individual, a democratically elected parliament is the law-giver, the government rules in accordance with these laws, and the authorities enforce them. The State protects its citizens and polices the borders. And yes, I think the State should also take care of the poor, the old, the sick, and the weak, but that is neither socialism nor fascism, it is humanity.