And that number includes many non-Muslims. In this case, many Muslims didn’t show up because Muslim organizations refused to endorse the march, due to the involvement of the German Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. Sunni Muslims generally consider Ahmadiyyas as heretics or apostates. But this is not the first time that attendance at a Muslim rally against terrorism has been decidedly underwhelming. In July 2016, a much smaller than anticipated crowd showed up at a Muslims Against ISIS rally in Washington, D.C. There are thousands of Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, but only 100 showed up for a rally against ISIS and “Islamophobia” in November 2015. And earlier that month, only 30 Muslims protested against the jihad massacres in Paris. In July 2015, a Muslim rally in Ireland against the Islamic State drew fifty people. In October 2014 in Houston, a rally against the Islamic State organized by the Hamas-linked Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) drew the grand total of ten people. In August 2013 in Boston, about 25 Muslims rallied against “misperceptions” that Islam was violent. About the same number showed up in June 2013 at a progressive Muslim rally in Toronto to claim that their religion had been “hijacked.”
And back in 2005, a group called the Free Muslims Coalition held what it dubbed a “Free Muslims March Against Terror,” intending to “send a message to the terrorists and extremists that their days are numbered … and to send a message to the people of the Middle East, the Muslim world and all people who seek freedom, democracy and peaceful coexistence that we support them.” In the run-up to the event it got enthusiastic national and international publicity, but it ended up drawing about twenty-five people.
Contrast those paltry showings to the thousands of Muslims who have turned out for rallies against cartoons of Muhammad or against Israel. Here are some headlines from the aftermath of the Charlie Hebdo jihad massacre of Muhammad cartoonists in January 2015:
Pakistan: 10,000 Muslims protest against Charlie Hebdo’s Muhammad cartoons
Australia: 1,000 Muslims rally against Charlie Hebdo and the freedom of speech
Kyrgyztsan: 1,000 Muslims rally: “I am not Charlie, I love my Prophet.”
But given a chance to show how Muslims overwhelmingly reject “extremism,” only a handful show up.
“‘Just the beginning’? Anti-terror Muslim peace march in Cologne attracts fewer people than expected,” RT, June 18, 2017:
A Muslim peace march against Islamist extremism and terrorism in Cologne organized by prominent Muslim public figures was attended by a much smaller number of participants than expected. The organizers, however, are planning new actions.
The march, held under the slogan, “Not with us,” took place in the center of the German city of Cologne on Saturday and started at 13:00 local time (12:00 GMT). It was organized by a group of prominent German Muslim public figures, including Lamya Kaddor, an Islamic scholar and author, and Tarek Mohamad, a Muslim peace activist.
The event was supported by a number of major German Muslim associations, including the Central Council of Muslims in Germany (ZMD) and the German Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. However, the number of the rally participants turned out to be much smaller than expected.
The organizers initially said that some 10,000 were expected to join the march. Initial police reports suggested that from 200 to 300 people joined the procession when the march started. People continued to join the event, which lasted between three and four hours. The total number of participants eventually grew to around 1,000, the Rheinische Post daily reports.
Der Spiegel weekly reported that the organizers put the number of participants at between 3,000 and 3,500, adding that, according to police estimates, it could have reached 2,000.
The smaller number of rally participants did not escape attention of German politicians and media. “I find it regrettable that more journalists and police officers arrived today [in central Cologne] than demonstrators,” Michael Groschek, the head of the German Social Democratic Party office in the state of North Rhein Westphalia said, as cited by Focus magazine…
LB says
Muslims are laughing at this pathetic attempt of “solidarity” while spending their jizya from German government. They aren’t even trying to fool the dhimmis into thinking that “islam has nothing to do with terrorism”. I mean, why even bother? The MSM will do it for them.
underbed cat says
For a few or more of the muslims who showed up to protest terrorism, it may have been to only make an impression that terrorism means islamic terrorism….in their eyes the terrorists are the infidels or kuffar…nothing else, especially not followers of allah. For most of the west is clueless and has no factual information on Islam except what misinformation the believers want the west to know.
I hope the President does not read this….it is RT News….the dems heads will spin a new story….
underbed cat says
I am referring to the RT news story referenced not my comment……yikes.
Patzy says
That’s right. Muslims will NOT join an Anti-Terror March because the Koran commands Muslims to “cast terror into the hearts” of non-Muslims.
notmoron says
10.000 expected by useful idiots.
Not by Jihadwatchers
Boston Tea Party says
This is the reality that many in the West can’t or won’t acknowledge. Western apologists for Islam often make the following argument: “Most Muslims don’t actively support terrorism, so that means all those Muslims who don’t support terrorism are as outraged by it as non-Muslims are, and are actively going to side with non-Muslims to combat Islamic terrorism.”
While it’s true that most Muslims don’t actively support terrorism, it’s a huge and wildly irrational leap of logic to believe that all those Muslims are therefore fierce opponents of terrorism, and are going to stand up against it. They’re not. The bulk of “moderate” “peaceful” Muslims are largely indifferent to Islamic terrorism directed against non-Muslims. For the most part, Islamic terrorism is only regrettable to them to the degree that it casts a negative light on Islam.
The more I study and read and observe about Islam, the more I’m convinced that the ultimate, singular, primary moral commandment of ALL Muslims at ALL times is to defend and promote Islam itself. Internal disagreements among Muslims only hinge on how best to fulfill this commandment.
Imnokuffar1234 says
In Britain today (last Night) we had another one van attack. This time on a mosque. So far 1 dead 10 injured and the perpetrators unidentified. I take a guess that these actors of which there were 3 ? Were
exacting revenge on behalf of of the previous victims of Islamic terror.
The Muslims were of course outraged, shocked and mystifed.
Why?
Because they expect the kuffar to submit and because this attack shows a lack of submission.
OUTRAGEOUS !!!!!
So I expect riots etc.
The media as usual have been cowtowing submissive and describing It as islamophobia.
Topaz says
The driver should have joined the military and gone to fight jihadists, not target any civilians who were Muslim.
For all we know, the people who were injured are anti-jihadists, working to reform Islam; hurting them wasn’t right, just like it’s not right to massacre any Christians if some of them commit murder.
The driver wasn’t a folk-hero taking revenge for the victims of jihadists. He attacked civilians when he didn’t know which are innocent, instead of going after known jihadists. Instead of helping defeat jihad, he’s made things even worse.
nicu says
media of course said : 3000 , LIARS !
mortimer says
Ahmadi Muslims are heretical Muslims rejected the mainstream, and yet, they successfully hoodwink and trick the lamestream, religiously naïve media that they represent ALL MUSLIMS. Ahmadis do NOT represent the mainstream of 1.5 billion Sunnis, 300 million Shi’ites and other small groups. Ahmadis have a total number of about 4 million…not even 1/3 of 1% of Muslims.
Ahmadis trick Westerners by speaking in the name of all Muslims.
Ahmadis have deemphasized military jihad and concentrated on VERBAL JIHAD, much of which is taqiyya. This march was an exercise in taqiyya. It was verbal jihad.
billybob says
The Ahmadis always make a spokesperson available to the lamestream media, who are only too happy to collude with Ahmadis to confuse their listeners, much like they will accept press handouts from their corporate sponsors. Many in the MSM don’t even know basic facts about Islam, and for some strange reason never seem to bother to do any research. They will just take whatever they are told by taqia spouting Imams, apologists, or Ahmadis and pass it on as fact, because it suits their agenda. For this reason they are called the “the lamestream media” or “the fake media”. It is totally irresponsible journalism.
gravenimage says
Good points, Mortimer and Billybob.
mortimer says
Many thousands of Muslims regularly show up with their families for a FAMILY DAY of directing hatred towards Jews and towards Israel called ‘AL QUDS DAY’.
If you have not attended one of those functions, I encourage every jihadwatch viewer to make the effort to watch Muslims of all races join together in virulent, mindless, rage and HATE towards Jews. This is an awesome and fearsome spectacle.
If you have any doubts about the HEART OF DARKNESS in Islam, Al Quds Day events will convince you for sure! More journalists should attend Al Quds Day and report on the hate.
billybob says
“The Al Quds Day March is a revolting stain on London”
https://youtu.be/S6QdXzshI0I
andra says
The Turkish DITIB stated that you must not ask a Muslim to demonstrate while Ramadan is still on. If you would publish a Mohamad Cartoon during Ramadan you would see ten thousands enraged Musliims in the streets. – But the stupid German politicians will swallow these excuses.
Most of this handful of demonstrators were not Muslims but Greenies and Lefties. I even doubt there were one hundred of Muslims. And, by the way. the posters they had were against Assad or Erdogan or whoever – and hardly any were against islamic terrorism. Many Muslims are angered anyway that they are expected to condemn Islamic terror.
gravenpimage says
Spot on, Andra.
DFD says
Hi Andra,
not only that, according to various alternative German websites there were at most about 300-400 participants. Mainly the usual array of teddy bear throwers.
But note: the likes of Pobel-Ralle, Merkel, Maas, Roth etc. are ***NOT*** stupid. On the contrary. They are 68ers in in full support of what’s going on. And to a very large extent responsible for it.
Learn about the 68ers – begins with Dutschke (deceased) and his successor, Daniel Cohn-Bendit, currently green Euro-MP in office…
Johan Elzinga says
If something is expected, can it still be very disappointing? Between the milliions of Muslims in Germany, there is only a 0.0001 fraction actively opposing the deeds of their fellow muslims. It is time that the Islam is banned from public life completely, and membership from any mosque should be considered in the same way as membership from a nazi party is – i.e. punishable by law.
andra says
They are not actively oposing, they only pretend they do. Ms. Kaddor e.g. is a very aggressive Muslim who Claims that the German woman of the future is Brown-eyed, black-haired and wearing a hijab. Furtheron she demands that Germany accepts the islamic veil in exchange for forbidding the burka. She pretends to be moderate but is one of the most aggressive invadors Germany has got.
gravenpimage says
Yes–just Taqiyya.
Lucia Bartoli says
Those terrorist primitive tribal idolaters are split even among themselves. Germany, France, perhaps even England are in dire straits–and it may well be too late.
Try to reclaim your nations by whatever means you must!
D J says
German humour is alive .Someone tweeted that more muslims turned out for the New Year’s Eve rapefest in Cologne.
Sarah says
OK, that made me chuckle ;:)
Meanwhile, whoever tweeted that, I hope they’re not living in Germany right now. They’ll get investigated at the least, for that.
gravenpimage says
Grim–but very funny.
Jon says
Fewer numbers because the ‘Sunnis don’t like the Ahmediyyas’. In a nutshell, the problems of the Middle East, they hate each other more than they hate the rest of us….almost!
Send the lot back whence they came and let them all sort it out among themselves. As things stand now, they’re polluting German cities with their crime gangs, fighting the police and each other. I fear for the new Germany under Merkel, there’s a limit to just how much all those joyful, frolicking beer-swilling Germans will take.
John A. Marre says
One is tempted to conclude that the majority of Muslims are OK with terrorism by Muslims.
Alien Republican says
Look at the video by RT. There are obviously muslim in the first ranks but then what follow are mostly Germans. Yes – I’m profiling based on cultural stereotypes.
gravenpimage says
Almost certainly correct, AR.
Kiki says
It may have had a poor turnout, but it’s a start. At least some people are standing against terrorism; we need every bit of help we can get with that.
Even though most of the attendees were Germans, the Muslims who did show up were risking antagonizing the radicals who might find out, so even if there weren’t many, it helps to know there are some who were willing to say terrorism isn’t okay by them.
gravenpimage says
Kiki, this was almost certainly just Taqiyya. That is not as first step, but more of the same.
andra says
You will not get help against islamic terrorism by Lamya Kaddor. She is an islamic activist. She works as Islam teacher in Dinslaken and a whole class of her joined ISIS. If she were a German history teacher whose class turned completely Nazi she woild be fired. But being a Muslim she complains that her poor students were not accepted enough in German Society and that they saw no other way in life than becoming Islamic terrorsts – and for that she gets invited into every second talk-show.
Sarah says
Ahh Islam. How could anyone show any surprise whatsoever about the fact that Muslims hate Christians and Jews and Atheists and Buddhists and Hindus and literally anyone else- including other MUSLIMS.
What do we see when we look to the 50+ Islamic nations around the world? Aside from poverty, misery, ignorance from lack of education, a powerful fear and all encompassing hatred for the female gender and an obsession with sex and anything to do with sex?
We see conflict. Violence. Why? Because of the sects. Sunni, Shiite, Kharijite. They all hate each other, over absurdly tiny differences in theology. Then you’ve got the more minor, splintered sects and movements within Islam, such as Ibadi, Gulen (or Hizmet) and so many more etc etc – and all of them, ultimately, hate the hell out of the Ahmadiyya.
This is grossly ironic, given that out of all of the different strains of Islam that are alive and festering away today, like hideous cancerous tumors, the Ahmadiyya are the closest thing Islam has to ‘good and peaceful’. For those in the West and the rest of the civilized world who recommend a Reformation for Islam – those dreamer’s should be pushing for an Ahmadiyya takeover.
We see Muslims of different sects slaughter each other. We see Islamic nations that have majorities in the different sects, such as Shiite Iran and Sunni Saudi Arabia fight each other and throw propaganda about each other around – such as the current Yemen ‘civil’ war – which is nothing more than a front for the Saudis and the Iranians to fight each other over who is right and who is wrong over a stupid theological difference from a time and era long past – using an entire nation and the lives of its people to spew hatred over WHO GETS TO SUCCEED MOHAMMED (back when he died), while they keep themselves safe.
(I’ll never listen to any Muslim who complains about the USA sticking its nose in where it doesn’t belong to suit its own interests in the Islamic world, ever again – after this).
All they do is brawl, fight, rape and kill. All they do is hiss hatred and bray for the slaughter of countless innocents. All they do is cause misery, conflict and destruction wherever any of them go. Even the Ahmadiyya, who while they may actually preach peace and non-violence – but ultimately, they continue to prop up Islam itself by being Muslims and their very existence enrages other Muslims so violently that the destruction and violence follows them everywhere like a toxic gas.
There is undeniable accountabiity there.
They can’t get along with others who have different faiths to them. They can’t get along with people from vastly different culture’s to them (cultures that are not infested with Islamic elements, such as the West), they can’t even get along amongst themselves. All they do is bring poverty, violence, sexual obsession, misery and death wherever they go.
Like a plague of locusts, they swarm the civilized world, stretching their hands out, demanding welfare and healthcare for them and the ridiculous number of gaping mouth’s they breed that they need to feed. They don’t assimilate. They don’t integrate. They bring such ‘gifts’ as Tuberculosis.
They are not educated to a comparable standard that allows them employment in the West, and that’s only for those Muslims who do want to work. They do not have sufficient work skills and experience to match the necessary standards that allows them employment in the West. They do not have even, the relevant social skills that are comparable to Western standards.
Its like developing a time machine and importing vast swathes of Europeans from the 9th century, plonking them in modern day Europe and just expecting that magically, it’ll all work out.
So, with all of that – all of it that we see evidenced in every Western nation on the planet that has stupidly allowed them to pour into our borders, I ask again. Why are we remotely surprised? Wherever Islam goes, conflict, division, crime, discrimination and suffering goes with it. We would be wise to expel any and all supporters of Islam in any form, from all of our nations, permanently and ban the practice of that religion within our borders including mosque’s, schools, community groups and charities etc.
Nothing good has come to us as a result of Islam.
gravenpimage says
Good post, Sarah.
A European says
Lamya Kaddor who organized this failed peace march is a self-styled champion of liberal Islam, a nonentity in Germany. She has got a degree in Islamic Studies from the University of Munster and she tried to elaborate a more modern, a more liberal reading of qur’anic verses. For some time, she worked as a religious education teacher and she taught Muslim schoolboys her version of Islam at a public school in North Rhine Westfalia. Unfortunaltely, five of her students went to Syria, and joined the jihad.
In Germany, you can see her often on talk shows about Islam, where she endeavors to convince people that her dreamt-up notions about Islam relflect reality, thus confounding fact and fiction.
And what about the Central Council of Muslims? This islamic organisation which is headed by Aiman Mazyek, represents just about 30000 Muslims, but there are six to seven millions of Muslims who live in Germany. Besides, this council of Muslims has an understanding of Islam that is not quite different from the views of mainstream Islam. Just recently, the ZDM refused to declare that shar’iah law is incompatible with the German Constitution and one council member asserted that graffitis on mosques were much the same as terrorist attacks and suicide bombings.. The low number of protesters who joined the anti-terror march stems from the refusal of DITIB to invite Muslims to take part in that protest march. DITIB is a very influential umbrella organisation which runs about 935 mosques and represents almost the majority of Muslims in Germany ( Its name roughly translates as Turkish-Islamic Union for Religious iImams and oulemas who are being sent to mosques in Germany are civil servants of the turkish state. And who is their employer? The turkish dictator Recip Erdogan, a close friend of the Muslim Brotherhood.
-DITIB is anti-semitic. In 2015, the organisation published a collection of verses from the Qur’an and some hadiths on the Internet, where Jews are depicted as thieves, liars, defaulting on contracts, stingy and prophet-killers.
-Ditib promotes an exacerbated form of turkish-islamic nationalism.
-DITIB advocates jihad warfare and glorifies islamic martyrdom. In a comic-strip produced by DITIB in 2016 there is a dialogue between a fathert and his son. Father: To be a martyr is a wonderful Thing..Would you like to be a martyr, son? Son: Yes, father, I wish to become a martyr. Who doesn’t want to go to Heaven?
-DITIB denies the Armenian Genocide which occurred during Word War I. Imams of DITIB can even participate in a special training programme which enables them to make this absurd denial credible.
-DITIB has strong ties with the turkish intelligence community. They are said to spy on 700 mosques, just to find out who might disagree with Mr. Erdogan and those who they deem traitors to the turkish nation will be trounced by the thugs of the Turkish Grey Wolves.
In the words of Bassan Tibi, DITIB has been mandated to thwart cultural assimilation, but it receives funds from the German state ( 8.5 Million euros a year), because lunatic German politicians believe that DITIB would promote cultural assimilation.
gravenpimage says
Thanks for the background on this Taqiyya artist.
gravenimage says
Germany: 10,000 expected at Muslim anti-terror march, 1,000 show up
………………..
I wonder how many were hopeful Infidels?
Peacemaker says
Majority of Muslim don’t interested on anti-jihad, in fact Muslim are the source of Jihad.
Terry says
The problem is simple, islam.
Our “leaders”???, know it, they just don’t have the balls to address it head on.
“So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world”
William Ewart Gladstone (1809–1898) was Prime Minister of Great Britain four times: 1868–74, 1880–85, 1886 and 1892–94. He called the Qur’an an “accursed book” and once held it up during a session of Parliament, declaring: “So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world.”
Truer words were never spoken.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Ahmadiyya is a production of world colonial oppressors to continue subjugating muslims without resistance and has a doctrine that negates Quranic verses. let them join their masters the christians in such protests,not muslims who never accept inferiority to anyone except God the creator of all.
Bill Smith says
I thought a ‘mere’ 10 percent of the 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide supported the extreme tenets of Islam (jihad, sharia, etc.) and 90 percent comprised the moderate peace-loving majority. I must have gotten that backwards. My bad.
Jon says
Is this true that 20 million Muslims marched against ISIS?
http://www.alternativenewsnetwork.net/20-million-muslims-march-isis-mainstream-media-completely-ignores/
gravenimage says
Jon, you can read the article yourself–it reveals what this actually was:
“Women, men, elderly, and children made their way to the city of Karbala on Sunday and Monday last week for the holy day of Arbaeen.”
They were there for an annual Shia pilgrimage–this is massively crowded *every year*.
They were not marching against ISIS.
Their claim that this story was ignored by the media is false, as well:
“Millions of Muslims take part in mass pilgrimage of Arbaeen – in spite of Isis”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/20-million-muslims-march-against-isis-arbaeen-pilgrimage-iraq-karbala-a7436561.html
Another point–this is a pilgrimage followed only by Shi’ites. ISIS is Sunni, and they regularly slaughter Shia.
So even if this had been a march against ISIS–which it *certainly was not*–then it would not indicate that Shia Muslims are opposed to terrorism, nor than any Sunnis are opposed to ISIS.