Note once again that the Islamic State traffics solely and wholly in Islamic theological rhetoric to explain and justify its actions. Yet this is the one element of its motivating ideology that mainstream Western analysts discount.
“ISIS-supporting news agency tells Muslims to avoid ‘gathering places of the Crusaders’ as fanatics plan to ‘explode, run over people and cut their necks any time,'” by Iain Burns, Mailonline, June 8, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A pro-ISIS news agency has told followers to stay away from the ‘gathering places of the Crusaders’ as it warns that ‘thousands of lonely lions’ are prepared to slaughter civilians at any time.
In a statement published by Nashir News Agency, people in America, Russia, France, Britain, Canada, Belgium, Australia – and those ‘outside the Caliphate’ – are warned of ‘almost daily blessed attacks’ by Islamic State fighters.
‘We will explode, run over people by vehicles and cut off their necks in any time,’ the statement reads.
It comes as the the terror group’s online magazine said the focus of its followers has shifted to carrying out attacks on ‘Crusader soil’.
In a section of the Nashir warning titled ‘O! You Crusaders!’, the author addresses people outside the Islamic State by saying: ‘You have started the aggression against us … and you will pay costly for that’.
It adds: ‘The Islamic State haven’t started the war against you, as your governments and media imagine.
‘We have prepared for you worst days, surprises after surprises, and to answer the call of targeting the crusader’s countries thousands of lonely lions have been prepared in your countries and have sold their bodies and souls for the sake of Allah.’
It concludes: ‘And wait for attacks, and we wait too!’
A sickening editorial in the jihadists’ Rumiyah magazine, published before the London Bridge attack, said: ‘Just one week before the blessed month of Ramadan, the world’s attention was focused on the British city of Manchester.
‘A soldier of the Khilafah had carried out a Just Terror operation, striking Manchester Arena at the conclusion of a concert by an American singer.’
The piece continued: ‘The explosion rocked the city and filled its residents with terror as many of them scrambled to try to contact their loved ones and ensure that they were safe.
‘Then, the casualty figures started emerging: More than 20 had been killed and dozens more had been wounded. The total would later climb to nearly 100 dead and wounded.
‘The enemies of Islam did their best to put on a brave and defiant face, but their efforts were a complete failure. They were clearly suffering.’…
Wyldeirishman says
Piss
Bastard
Ultimate
Hubris
Salome says
It’s ‘pox be upon him’ in my lexicon.
Marcello Luciano says
how about”Piss Be Upon His Soul”!
ConnectingDots says
What, no mention of New Zealand?
Ann Inquirer says
Monkey See, Monkey Do
William L McKenzie says
What an absurd statement coming from ISIS as they machine gun Muslim children trying to flee. They have killed far more Muslims than they have “crusaders”. What a bunch of losers.
Robert Crawford says
They’re Muslims — being a loser comes with that.
gravenimage says
Muslims don’t much care if Muslims are killed so long as Muslims are doing the killing.
David Ramseur says
Satan prowls around like a like seeking whom he can devour. Satan comes to steal, kill, and destroy. What ISIS boasts about cannot be more sad and obvious…these “lonely lions” have sold their souls to the devil. Islam literally means submission. Once you submit, you are one of Satan’s pawns headed for destruction. This is the face of true Islam, promoting itself openly. A diabolical system of bondage thru which murder, mayhem, and all manners of evil are perpetrated. And their prime target? The Body of Christ. But, who will save them from the coming judgment? Nobody but Jesus, whom they are persecuting, is able to do that. And so, they will get what’s coming to them, unless they repent and trust in Jesus Christ as their savior. In the meantime, it is honorable to oppose Islam’s advances at every turn. We must never let up in exposing what should be obvious to everyone.
Gart says
“And so, they will get what’s coming to them, unless they repent”
You’re part of the problem. Park the jesus and ply monotheism elsewhere.
johnnybigtime says
Sorry Gart, but your ignorance of the meaning and purpose of life is the problem.
We are in the midst of a war between good and evil;- Satan and God.
The Muslim religion is Satanic!
One of the basic laws of science:- ‘The Law of Biogenesis’, states that life comes only from life, and reproduces after its own kind.
This is also stated in Genesis; the first book of the Bible.
This is seen to be true in the world about us; nothing different has ever happened in the recorded history of civilisation.
The difference between inanimate matter and living matter is information. Information is NOT a property of inanimate matter; therefore inanimate matter cannot bring forth life.
All living things contains highly complex coded information which is beyond the understanding of man (DNA).
Furthermore, information is a mental entity, which can only be generated by intelligence.
Therefore by a logical process of deduction;- GOD must exist.
There is no known way by which information can generate itself.
The Bible is the only religion in the world which is full of fulfilled prophecy.
‘I am God, and there is no other, declaring the end from the beginning’ Isaiah 46.
Regards x
Rolf Wittwer says
They are talking about “we will explode” and so on.
These primitive, destructive fanatic killers should get some visits by MOAB’s.
This is the only language they understand..
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Vaguely remember reading the mohammedan attack on Malta before their devastating defeat at Lapanto.
Apparently the mohammedans would crucify prisoners and with the tide, the disfigured victims would float to the position of the defending Knights.
The Grand Master of the knights ordered that the heads of the mohammedans be severed and cannon fired to their position.
Their nonsense soon stopped.
Just in closing, a handful of knights beat the living daylights of the thousands of mohammedans. so much for their prophet.
moh
Malcolm (South Afric) says
Here is a link
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-466818/Historys-bloodiest-siege-used-human-heads-cannonballs.html
James says
Very powerful stuff ! If only Western pols had that sort of determination and courage. Thanks for the link.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
@James
Suleiman the Magnificent, was the Sultan of Turkey and the one responsible for this. However, Catholics called him suleiman the Sot (he had a thing for European wine).
He will always remain suleiman the Sot. in certain circles.
Bob says
“If only Western pols had that sort of courage and determination…” Oh James, you will have your little joke!
Malcolm (South Afric) says
His son, who carried out his fathers ways in Europe was saleim ll, known as saleim the Sot.
Cretius says
These Muslim jihadists don’t know our history. In two World Wars we paid the price in blood and did what was necessary to win. Nothing has changed. Our liberal politicians seek to appease just like in the 1930s but the mass of the population will not be intimidated by a mob of zealots.
TL says
You, too, don’t know the history of American involvement in the last great European war. The motives are obvious from the effects, namely, (i) the salvation of Europe’s communist internationalists, and (ii) the enrichment of British and American bankers, investors, and military contractors.
The war ended generations ago. It’s time for ALL of us to tune out the Democrats’ and capitalists’ war propaganda, and this requires us to let go of sentimental notions about the bravery and sacrifices of Americans during WWII.
gravenimage says
TL has previously lauded the ugliness of Fascism here before, and this is just more of the same. *Ugh*.
Cretius is quite right that we should recognize that appeasement of the Nazis was very similar to the appeasement of Islam now, and that we should take heart from our eventual triumph against a previous evil.
Fascism and Islam–along with Communism–have a great deal in common: totalitarianism, the destruction of freedom, and the use of hideous violence.
TL says
You are confused again. Your claim that I “lauded” Fascism is another silly straw man attack and an obvious defamation, too.
It was self-evident even in the 1930’s that Fascism, though totalitarian, is an order of magnitude less nasty than the Marxism and syndicalism which spawned it. (In fact, Fascism not so different from what we live under now.) So it’s a painful but an immutable fact that the USA should have fought against the USSR…or stayed out of the European war entirely while the various factions of secular collectivists clawed out each others’ eyes.
Cretius says
Hello, I am a Canadian. My father was in the RCAF in WW II and my grandfather in the Royal Artillery in WW I. There is always something new to learn. I have been studying and working as a historian for over 60 years so I do have some small understanding. Your understanding is politically centred which means a bias. You don’t know history until you understand the intentions of all involved. Spend more time understanding the big picture.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Something that people keep forgetting or ignoring is that National Socialism is Socialism. Instead of being focused internationally it has a national focus. It is a classic “Left” philosophy involving “Supremacy of the State and those in control of the State”. The “Left” in the US and other areas pretended it was “Right” in order to deceive people and work to prevent people from seeing it was basically no different from the Communist and other Socialist. And International Socialist have millions of more people that National Socialist did. And Islam killing spree is even higher.
Cretius says
I fully agree that Islam is a fascist, supremacist belief system. I offered advice to TL but refrain from argument.
Wellington says
Gravenimage is never confused, TL, though you certainly are—–and regularly. Nazism and Marxism are both totalitarian ideologies which destroy freedom and single out certain groups of human beings for second class status or death, only the “groupings” are a variable———-certain ethnic groups for Nazism, chief among them Jews, and, for Marxism, socio-economic groups, i.e., the upper and middle classes. Wake the hell up, will ya’.
And for you to claim, as you did in your 5:32 A.M. post of today, that we in any way live here in America now under some kind of fascism, comparable as you implied to Nazism, types you as the complete fool that you are. Done here. You’re an effing idiot——and I’m being kind here. Exceedingly.
Wellington says
Donald R Laster: Again you get things wrong. Nazism, muddled pseudo-political, social and economic system that it was, as evidenced by its 25 point program of the mid-1920s, which did indeed have both left and right wing elements to it, after the Night of the Long Knives, June 30, 1934, no longer, except in the most theoretical of ways, and even not really then, was no longer leftist at all but full right.
After 1934, Hitler made sure he sucked up to capitalist businessmen as long as they sucked up to him. Once the Brownshirts under Rohm were effectively done away with in mid-1934—-with Rohm totally so—-Nazism’s left-wing elements essentially vaporized and Nazism henceforth was a solely Far Right phenomenon. One knows this or should know this. Apparently you don’t.
Really, I have become exasperated by people who keep trying to pass off Nazism as Leftist. If it is, then nothing is Rightist. Learn this. I know I’m being a bit “quick” here, but I am very tired of a little knowledge proving again and again that it is a bad thing. Yes, LEARN.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Wellington you have no concept of how the “Left” operates. The “Left” operates with the concept of “Supremacy of the State and those in control of the State”. Like Islam, they use lies and deception to advance their agenda. The “International Socialist” did not like the fact the “National Socialist” were more honest about their agenda so they pretended, lied, and claimed the “National Socialist” were “Right” to hide the fact their agenda was no different, and in fact the same, as the “National Socialist” agenda. They were as “Left” as the “International Socialist”. Had Hitler not attacked the USSR he had the potential to rule a good portion of Europe and we would have seen the same things we saw the USSR and Maoist do. Try look at what the “National Socialist” were doing. It is the same things the “International Socialist” did – destroy the family, impose the State control over everything. In fact, the “Left”, or “Progressives”, in Germany are still using laws passed by the “National Socialist”, such as the law against Home Schooling, to assert State control over people. And the “Left” has been working hard to do here in the US. Like Islam, “Socialist” of all sorts uses lies and deception to advance their agenda. You don’t like it when your perception and positions are challenged.
Wellington says
Let’s see here, Donald R Laster. I have no idea what Islam is really all about (though you do) and I have no concept of how the Left operates (though you do).
Uh-huh. Look, pal. I taught history for a third of a century, 29 years at the college level. I have studied Islam and Nazism (Marxism too) for decades now and I will pit my knowledge of these totalitarian systems against most anyone.
For the record, Nazism was Far Right and had Leftist elements in it until 1934. After 1934 its Leftist elements were moribund——–and one knows this or should know it. You don’t.
For the record, Islam is a religion, though a very evil one, and also a totalitarian political ideology. Anyone, I mean ANYONE, asserting that Islam is not a religion for First Amendment purposes and is not protected by Article VI where BELIEF is concerned, per the American Constitution, doesn’t know what the hell they are talking about.
Got all this? No, of course you don’t.
Donald R Laster Jr says
National Socialism is SOCIALISM. Socialism is a “Left-Wing” philosophy. Socialism, the “Left”, is about maximal control by the State. The “Right” is about minimal control by the State. National Socialism is a “Left-Wing” as any Socialist system. With the logic you are using George Soros is a right-wing ideologue. Just because the State uses businesses to advance its agenda of control does not make it “Right-Wing”. Dictatorships use any tools it can to advance its agenda. You should really look closer at what Socialism entails. The National Socialist did everything they could to control every aspect of a person’s life. That is classic “Left-Wing” ideology. Unlike most Socialist the National Socialist were more honest about their agenda – racial and otherwise. And people like Margaret Sanger, a hero of the “Left”, supported the National Socialist. The “Left” does not want people to think and the National Socialist obvious agenda caused people to think so the “Left” did everything they could to get people to think of the National Socialist as being on the “Right”.
As for Islam it is a theocracy – a government with its laws given by its god. That is exactly what Islam is – a theocracy. It is a government not a religion. Its use of its religious component is used as a tool for indoctrination and deception of the non-Islamic. Shar’iah law is the civil law of its government. Take a look at the what Islamics actually do and say. We have 1400 years of history of the fact that Islam is a government. What is the first thing Islamics do when they get control of any area – they impose the civil laws of Islam – Shar’iah. The violence Islamic engage in is part and parcel of their civil law (Shar’iah) and re-enforced as acceptable by the religious component of the theocracy. And this “For the record, Islam is a religion, though a very evil one, and also a totalitarian political ideology.” is the basic definition of a theocracy – a government with a religious component.
You don’t like it when someone challenges your positions and views. You refuse to consider your understanding may have errors. And claiming you were a college teacher does not help your case considering the “Left-Wing” indoctrination that has been going on in our colleges for the last 50 years or so. All you seem to do is to look at the surface. As done in the “Wizard of Oz” look behind the curtain. Look at the actions and details. Look at what is actually done and said. In the US the “Left” is constantly claiming program “A” will do “X” but in the end it does “negative-X”. And then the “Left” is constantly claiming lets just spend a little more money on “A” and “X” will be accomplished. And we get more “negative-X”. One has to ask is the real goal, the unstated goal, “negative-X”? Look past the surface and look at the details. I did and realized Islam is a government not a religion, It is a theocracy. And I realized that National Socialism was not “Right-Wing” as “Left” claims but in fact “Left-Wing” since it was about total control over every aspect of a persons life.
Wellington says
Donald R Laster: I enjoy when someone challenges me. So, you got this wrong as you got so much else wrong. What I don’t enjoy is someone like yourself who refuses to comprehend factual information when provided, as is you wont significantly.
Fact 1: Yes, Islam is theocratic. I don’t dispute this. But this doesn’t mean it is not a protected belief for First Amendment purposes. One can believe that the Constitution should be replaced by Sharia (as Ibrahim Hooper and other Muslims in America have openly called for) and this is protected by the First Amendment. What is not protected is implementing this belief. You seem to think that because Islam is a theocracy, which it is, here we do not have a disagreement, that therefore Islam is not a religion or it is a religion not protected by the First Amendment. This is where you are dead wrong legally speaking. I do wish you would wake up to this fact. There are lots of belief systems which are protected by the Frist Amendment where BELIEF is concerned but not necessarily where ACTION is concerned. As another example, take the disgusting North American Man Boy Love Association (NAMBLA). This advocates men and boys having sex. This organization has a right to exist under the First Amendment where belief is the issue but not where action is the issue. Ditto for Marxism and Nazism which would gut or destroy the Constitution. Can you finally get this through your head? You would be laughed out of every court of law in America if you asserted that Islam should not be considered a religion for First Amendment purposes. What you should focus on is having Islam characterized quite widely as an evil religion which should no longer be looked upon as something good or innocuous. Arguing that Islam is not a religion for First Amendment purposes is a complete waste of time. You just can’t seem to grasp this.
Fact 2: Nazism, as I mentioned before, was a very muddled political, social and economic philosophy. Its 25 point program of the mid-1920s reveals this. In these 25 points can be found both left-wing and right-wing elements. These two contradicting factors were in opposition to each other within the Nazi Party until Errnst Rohm and other left-leaning Nazis were eliminated in the Night of the Long Knives, June 30th, 1934. Thereafter, the leftist portion of Nazism, the Socialist part and not the Nationalist part, for all intents and purposes ceased to exist. Hitler made buddy/buddy with German capitalists henceforth and virtually all leftist elements in Nazism were abandoned, in practice certainly and even in theory From mid-1934 onwards Nazism was entirely Far Right, just as fascism in Spain was under Franco, as it was under Mussolini in Italy (and yes I know Mussolini started out as a socialist), under Salazar in Portugal, under Admiral Horthy in Hungary and in many other countries. I would also not here that both the Far Left and Far Right both attempt to completely control peoples’ lives and both are also enemies of liberty. The Far Left, unlike the Far Right, has a decided tendency to also destroy economies while at least many Far Right dictatorships allow for a kind of crony capitalism which explains why when a Far Right dictatorship comes to an end the economy of that country bounces back much sooner than when a Far Left dictatorship is ended, assuming of course that a full capitalist economy is finally put in place.
Fact 3: I am a conservative who doesn’t have a leftist bone in his body. I voted twice for Reagan for President, twice for Bush 41, once for Dole, twice for Bush 43 and this past November voted for Trump, whom I actually greatly admire, as I do Reagan to this day. I am quite aware of the leftist indoctrination going on on college campuses these days and deplore it. So, don’t impute to me any leftism or believe I am not aware of the extraordinary leftist bias that now is present on most every college campus in the US.
Donald R Laster Jr says
And yet you still ignore the actual facts and history. You keep trying to justify your position by ignoring the actual practices of the National Socialists and Islamics. The fact that the National Socialist used businesses to advance their agenda of “Supremacy of the State” does not change the fact they are a “Leftist”. The “Left” is about total control of the people by those in control of the State. That is what the “Left” has always been about and that has always been their agenda, and they use different techniques to accomplish that goal. The “Right” is minimal government and minimal State control over the people. If you don’t understand that fundamental difference between the “Left” and the “Right” you will never be able to see what is in front of you. And even in Spain under Franco the people were under maximal control of the State. That is classic “Left” ideology. And we are dealing with much of that today at the Federal and State levels of Government which has much of its roots going back to Woodrow Wilson’s days.
Islam is a government and its law (Shar’iah) is foreign civil law. Amendment 1 does not apply to foreign governments. Article 6 of the US Constitution does not allow foreign law to be used in the US. If a person wants to worship Hubal, the god of Islam, or any other 359 gods of the Arab pantheon of gods Amendment 1 allows it. But Islam is not a religion and never has been. It is foreign government, created by Mohammad, that has had its citizens invading other countries for 1400 years. It uses the claim of being a religion to aid its invasion of countries. Just like it uses lies and deceptions to advance its agenda of taking over the world. You don’t want to look past the curtain at the actual foundations of Socialism or Islam since that would challenge your views.
As I said we will have to agree to disagree.
Wellington says
You are wrong when you assert that only the Far Left is involved with total control of the people. So is the Far Right. Both shut down freedom. Both disallow a free press. Both engage in enormous amounts of lies. Both disallow a multi-party system. Both have an extensive secret police network.
What you describe as Far Right, i.e., minimal government, is actually, and there is a range here, traditional conservatism (classic liberalism if you go back as far as Thomas Jefferson’s time which is why I sometimes call myself a Jeffersonian liberal because Jeffersonian liberalism and Reagan conservatism are essentially the same——-things have flipped almost 180 degrees over the past two hundred years or so) or libertarianism. Once you go to the Far Right you have the police state everywhere just as you do with the Far Left.
Now here’s a difference between the Far Right and Far Left: The former very much tends to keep some kind of capitalist system in place. Hitler certainly did this. Many German businessmen made tons of money under Hitler (e.g., the Krupp family). The Far Left by contrast destroys the capitalist system and puts in its place total government control of the economy from the top downwards, in short extreme socialism economically speaking. Private ownership of practically anything is verboten. Know of any businessmen who made a lot of money in Stalin’s Russia or Mao’s China? In Hitler’s Germany, Franco’s Spain, Pinochet’s Chile, etc., private ownership was all over the place—–with rich landlords, industrialists, et al.
Here’s another difference between the Far Right and Far Left: The former prizes nationalism highly while the latter hates nationalism. The Far Left loathes the nation state and wants globalist entities to exist. Marx called for the elimination of the nation state and he, Lenin, Stalin and other Leftists started the Internationals, the first while Marx was still alive and the third often called the Comintern. Today Leftists prize the United Nations, which is a loathsome globalist organization, and speak of themselves as “citizens of the world.” Nazism wanted nothing to do with globalist efforts and citizen of the world garbage. It pushed extreme German nationalism, which is classic Far Right stuff.
As for Islam not being a religion, your ignorance of American law is profound. I am a lawyer and I know the law fairly well and there is no way in hell that Islam, evil though it be and also a political totalitarian ideology like Nazism and Marxism, is not a religion for First Amendment purposes. As for Article VI, which describes the Constitution as the “supreme law of the land,” this is indeed the case and I welcome this existing forever. However, this does not mean you cannot wish to do away with Article VI. Here someone has the right to publicly state that they don’t want this. Are you finally getting the distinction I have been trying to drive home to you many times between BELIEF and ACTION? Probably not.
We both agree Islam is iniquitous but your approach to dealing with it is not smart. Islam’s a religion all right, though an awful one, and what needs to be focused upon is its nature and goals and not its status. But you won’t get this either I suspect. There is much that you miss and it has nothing to do with my not liking being challenged but rather my not liking ignorance in others. For instance you.
Donald R Laster Jr says
What you are refusing to see is that what “Progressives” and “Left” call “Far Right” are simply variants of the “Left” that are national in focus instead of international. The term “left-wing anarchist” is an oxymoron for instance. The “International Socialist” and the “National Socialist” use words to hide the fact that both are basically the same. The real “Right” promotes minimal government, while the “Left” promotes maximal government. Look past the words to the actions. Look at foundation. What you are calling the “Far Right” is nothing but a variant of the “Left” that is working to achieve the same goal – Supremacy of the State and Supremacy of those in the control of the State. This is what you don’t want to see. It took me years to realize after hearing the same type of things you are hearing to realize that when I looked past the rhetoric to the objective in play that the what the “Left” was calling “Far Right” in almost all cases was a variant of the “Left”. National Socialist have never been on the “Right”. Their agenda is no different than that of “Left”. And that is Supremacy of the State and Supremacy of those in control of the State. The real Far Right is an anarchist who wants to eliminate government. Our system of Government is based upon the idea of minimal government involvement in the lives of people. As I said look past the words used to the foundation. Stop letting the methods Socialist and the “Left” use to blind you to the agenda of control. “Crony Capitalism” for instance looks similar to real Capitalism but it has fundamental differences. You keep ignoring the underlying objective – think oligarchy. In Germany for instance you had the National Socialist and International Socialist working to gain power to rule. Their objectives were the same – Total Control over the country where the people answered to those in power.
Consider this quote by Josef Goebbels:
“When democracy granted democratic methods to us in times of opposition, this
was bound to happen in a democratic system. However, we National Socialists
never asserted that we represented a democratic point of view, but we have
declared openly that we used the democratic methods only to gain power and
that, after assuming the power, we would deny to our adversaries without any
consideration the means which were granted to us in times of our opposition.”
It could have been said by Franco; Communists (International Socialist) such as Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky, Mao, Pol Pot; or any other of the variations of Socialist – Nationalist or Internationalist.
And you fail to understand the Islamic practices of Kitman and Taquiyya and why Islamics pretend they are a religion. That is the Islamic practice of lying and deception. Get a Qur’an (978-0-913321-01-0) and read it. Islam is a foreign government. It is not a religion. It has a religious component that is used to keep people faithful the Islamic government. Shar’iah law is civil law – it is foreign law. Amendment 1 does not apply to foreign law. Only laws passed in accordance to the US Constitution (Article 6) apply. You, like so many people, have accepted the lie that Islam is a religion. We have 1400 years of history showing exactly what it is. The Barbary States were Islamic States or countries following Shar’iah law. The countries or States were following the civil law of Islam. Look past the rhetoric of the Islamics to the what they are actually doing. You can take the religious aspect out of Islam and you still have Islam and the depravity of its Civil Law (Shar’iah). Mohammad created a government – a theocracy. And Islamics are actively working to push Shar’iah law on the country as if it is simply a religious practices and not the civil law of a foreign State. Look past the words to the actions.
I have studied this enough to realize the real issue. We are at war and this war has been going on for 1400 years. And if one does not realize that Islamics are part of a foreign State one is allowing the enemy in. Read the Qur’an and learn what it actually teaches. Go back and look at the real history.
And as I said we will have to agree to disagree. I know exactly where you are coming from and I know exactly why you believe the way you do. Look past the curtain of words to the actual practices and agendas. And then look at the commonality related to the practices and agenda,you will see what is there. I would recommend you and everyone read Rules for Radicals as well. It will help people to understand what is going on.
Wellington says
I say that Islam is a religion. Robert Spencer says that Islam is a religion. I know of no lawyer, including several I know who know Islam quite well, who would say for First Amendment purposes Islam is not a religion. I know of no federal judge who would maintain that Islam is not a religion, but you, Donald R Laster, know that Islam is not a religion for First Amendment purposes. And you think I’m the ignorant one here? BTW, I have read the entire Koran, all 114 Suras, and have been studying Islam for over forty years. I know what taqiyya means and kitman and know the four other types of Islamic deception, so cut it out with your continual you need to read this or study that crap. You are a condescending ignoramus who thinks he knows far more than he does. And your knowledge of American constitutional law is beyond pathetic. In fact, it borders on the non-existent.
As for your understanding of what Far Right and Far Left means, here too you are quite ignorant. For you to assert as you have in your 5:28 P.M. post above that the Far Left and Far Right agendas are no different is asinine. I mentioned two ways in which they are very different, i.e., respecting the preservation of a capitalist-type system which the Far Right ordinarily does and the Far Left does not and the importance of nationalism to the Far Right which is actually loathed by the Far Left. You are so ignorant here that you actually think that the true Far Right people are anarchists. Per your “thinking” there has never been a Far Right government because anarchism doesn’t have a government at all and so, per your “thinking,” any Far Right regime like Franco’s Spain, Salazar’s Portugal, Pinochet’s Chile, Hitler’s Germany, etc. is really just a leftist regime and only folks like you can see that such Far Right regimes really weren’t Far Right at all but just a variant of the Far Left. Yes, your gnostic knowledge is really so impressive and only a member of the cognoscenti such as you can see what is really going on.
Holy Hell. I give up. Continue to function in your own little make-believe legal world and make-believe historical world. Bye.
Donald R Laster Jr says
You really should look past the labels to the foundations. You have not presented anything to change my understanding when one looks past the labels to the actual philosophies and practices involved. And as I said we will have to agree to disagree.
Donald R Laster Jr says
And your attempts at insult show you are typical ideologue. Only ideologues react to challenges they way you keep reacting based upon your posts.
My Opinion says
I find it very telling that one of the statements they make is “…and have ‘sold their bodies and souls’ for the sake of allah”.
somehistory says
Me too.
Cretius says
To ‘sell your soul’ has a negative connotation for a Christian. It indicates you have made a covenant with the devil rather than with God.
gravenimage says
Exactly, Cretius.
TL says
Of course mainstream Western analysts discount the motivating ideals of Muslim criminals. If those analysts were to concede the motivation publicly, the MIC and sundry goverment agencies would experience a great loss of revenue.
Think of the situation from the MIC’s perspective. If Islam itself is the problem, then a military solution must be merely a treatment of the symptoms. If Islam itself is the problem, a lasting solution to the problem of Islamic terrorism must involve a war upon the bad idea called Islam. The MIC, hoever, would never be the appropriate system to wage this war of ideas.
On the other hand, think of the possibilities for profit which become real and remain real by preserving the fairy tale that Islamic terrorism is basically contrary to Islam. The fairy tale will thwart initiatives to eradicate Islam. With the religion thus preserved indefinitely, it remains as a motivator and organizing principle for the terrorism which the MIC pretends to oppose with its “global war on terrorism”. This provides the caring business people of the MIC with a basis for long term financial planning based on projected sales to governments. A great deal of capital investment will be involved, and the MIC wants to reduce the risk of uncertainty, which would increase radically if most analysts stated, in effect, “Islam is intrinsically terroristic”.
Now think of all the military officers of the US armed forces who need excuses to pad their resumes with tall tales of courageous deeds. If those deeds are not against Islamic terrorists, then whom? The officers require hobgoblins to fight, but their fighting will be within the framework of militarism. So analysts would cheat them out of career opportunities by admitting the truth about Islam, and this the officer corps will not tolerate as presently constituted.
Now tell me who is financing the organizers of the “Impeachment Marches” planned for July 2 if not the MIC. Would some alert officers of the military find it expedient to slip the insurrectionists a few dollars when few people are paying attention?
gravenimage says
TL wrote:
Now think of all the military officers of the US armed forces who need excuses to pad their resumes with tall tales of courageous deeds. If those deeds are not against Islamic terrorists, then whom? The officers require hobgoblins to fight…
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The idea that Jihadists are not a military threat to us is grotesque.
TL says
Your reply is a straw man attack rooted in your own habit of thinking in B&W, and in terms of all or nothing. Yet it remains true that the American military, esp. the officer corps as presently constituted, is a threat to America’s best interests. It is organized very little to “provide for the common defence” and (among other nefarious motives) very much to generate revenues and profits for the MIC, which, as I’ve argued elsewhere, has scant interest in admitting the truth about Islamic motives.
John A. Marre says
That’s proof that they must be deported.
Wellington says
Islam started a war against humanity back in the seventh century. Still ongoing. Which is why Islam needs to be properly characterized as an enormous evil and pushed to the extreme margins of most societies where losers or worse reside or, ideally, obliterated once and for all.
No belief system over such a long period of time deserves the opprobrium, ostracism and obloquy more so than does Islam. None.
gravenimage says
Islamic State warns Muslims to avoid the “gathering places of the Crusaders”
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This, of course, has a double purpose–one, that Muslims will not die when Jihadists attack us; but also a warning that they not “take Jews and Christians for their friends”, nor make any attempts to assimilate into the civilized societies they have moved into in the West.
somehistory says
2 hrs ago, a report on Reuters, was about a video telling their “lions” to attack, even the other sects with whom they disagree.
How many moslums go where Christians congregate for innocent reasons? Why would they need to be warned against doing so?
They would stick out, worse than a sore thumb, if they ‘gathered’ with Christians.
moslums attempting to show their prowess and warring abilities are so very ignorant and it shows.
Lydia says
And THEY have the guts to call peaceful civilians ‘crusaders’?!
They are the ones waging war on peaceful civilians, not us.
When it comes to who started anything, first of all their religion did not exist until after all the others did, 500 something AD. So they were the ones to spread out and invade others’ territories. They did all of this in a brutal way, as anyone interested in the historical accounts can verify for themselves.
No one has come against them. But any war in the middle east is interpreted as a ‘holy war’ against them, to justify more jihad in their minds, even if done by non Christians just because they are from ‘the west.’
It is so twisted!
mortimer says
Are Western politicians paying attention yet?
Will Western elites start to read the Sira, hadiths and Koran, as well as the canonical commentaries and JIHAD MANUALS?
It’s time to open a book, Leftards. Leftardation can be cured … BY READING the PRIMARY, ISLAMIC SOURCE TEXTS.
Smack Daddy says
Since the Koran was written some +600 years after the bible, why did the god of the Quaran change the message from the god of the bible? The message “love your enemies” was changed to “kill the unbelievers.”
I am confused….I think the god of the Quaran is a deceiver.
Smart guy says
The “Gathering places of the Crusaders” probably means Christian churches.
Donald R Laster Jr says
The typical lies of Islamics pretending they are the victims simply defending themselves. Mohammad started this war after his lies were rejected. And the Crusades were a response by European governments, including the Byzantine Empire (now called Turkey) which was overrun in the 1500s by Islamics, after 400 years of constant attacks and invasion by Islamics. Remember, North Africa and Middle East were basically Christian in the 400 to 600s. People need to realize that war is a 1400 year old war started by a mad man and his followers continue his depravities to this day.