The EU wants to make sure that all of its members commit cultural and civilizational suicide on an equitable basis.
Have refugees ever been responsible for jihad attacks? Somali Muslim migrant Mohammad Barry in February 2016 stabbed multiple patrons at a restaurant owned by an Israeli Arab Christian; Ahmad Khan Rahami, an Afghan Muslim migrant, in September 2016 set off bombs in New York City and New Jersey; Arcan Cetin, a Turkish Muslim migrant, in September 2016 murdered five people in a mall in Burlington, Washington; Dahir Adan, another Somali Muslim migrant, in October 2016 stabbed mall shoppers in St. Cloud while screaming “Allahu akbar”; and Abdul Razak Artan, yet another Somali Muslim migrant, in November 2016 injured nine people with car and knife attacks at Ohio State University. 72 jihad terrorists have come to the U.S. from the countries listed in Trump’s immigration ban.
What’s more, all of the jihadis who murdered 130 people in Paris in November 2015 had just entered Europe as refugees. In February 2015, the Islamic State boasted it would soon flood Europe with as many as 500,000 refugees. The Lebanese Education Minister said in September 2015 that there were 20,000 jihadis among the refugees in camps in his country. On May 10, 2016, Patrick Calvar, the head of France’s DGSI internal intelligence agency, said that the Islamic State was using migrant routes through the Balkans to get jihadis into Europe.
“EU launches legal proceedings against Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic over handling of the refugee crisis,” by Shehab Khan, Independent, June 14, 2017:
The European Commission has launched legal proceedings against three European Union member states who refused to take in refugees.
Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic have been accused of not fulfilling their obligations outlined in a 2015 plan to relocate migrants from Italy and Greece, to help ease their burden.
“I regret to see that, despite our repeated calls to pledge to relocate, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland have not yet taken the necessary action,” the EU’s migration commissioner, Dimitris Avramopoulos, told a news conference.
The Commission is now launching infringement procedures against the three nations, which would allow the top EU court to potentially impose fines. However, the legal battle could take months, even years, to conclude.
The Polish and Hungarian governments refused to take anyone in, while the Czech Republic initially accepted 12 people but has since said it would not welcome more.
Poland’s Deputy Foreign Minister Konrad Szymanski told state TV that the action “unnecessarily heats up political tensions, of which there are already too many in the European Union”.
He added: “If necessary, Poland is ready to defend its legal arguments in court.”…
Terry says
I THINK THE CZECHS ( AS WELL AS POLAND & HUNGARY) COULD SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
They take in AS REFUGEES- native Greeks; native Italians; etc.
let the countries (Germany, Sweden, Austria, once Great Britain, etc) that want the Balkan ECONOMIC REFUGEES, AND THE SYRIANS AND IRAQIS TAKE THEM.
See, easy to solve
And, since Iran wants to support Assad in Syria-Iran should take in all the Syrians. And since Lebanon (like Syria,) is a vassal state of Iran, some can go there also.
And, (my hope) ISIS & Al Qeida will attack their cities. And slaughter the Hezbollah members and supporters.
Jan III Sobieski says
Like your comment Terry.
John Krupa says
Terry, I suspect that your heart is in the “right place”, but, in actually, your suggestion is another of those “too clever by half” variants; because ALL that you are doing; and ONLY what you are doing is solving the problem for the death cult muhammedans. I for one, at times like these, am not amused, nor do I want to be distracted in any way, by such “clever” suggestions.
These muhammedans CARE NOT that you are “bargaining” with “some of your cultural own” — giving up one group while protecting some others — they CARE ONLY that you are giving into half of their demands.
You may realize some short-term relief, but, they are playing the long game: after or even before they consummate the complete and utter CONQUEST of your selected gifted countries/nations/cultures — Germany, Sweden, Austria, once Great Britain, etc — sooner, rather than later, they will again be knocking on the doors of Czech Rep, Slovakia, Hungary, Poland and etc. … making more DEMANDS.
The ONLY difference then will be that you, and any and all of these remaining EU countries will be WEAKER and therefore, more vulnerable to this incessant death cult. These muhammedans are playing the long game and they will NOT give up until they have achieved world domination.
Alternatively, ram it back in their immoral and corrupt faces: raise the flag of FREEDOM, raise the soul of Jan Sobieski and his compatriots — those were men who KNEW what needed to be done — and send this death cult back to hell from where it came. Snuff it out once and for all … and, if anything, in the meantime, do NOT give in to them on one-inch [nor cm]… NOTHING!
“Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force. Never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.” [Winston S. Churchill, speech]
Rest assured, that death cult of muhammedanism, those rabid dogs, ARE the enemy! Just ask them … and watch as they protest, in every way, against any and all claims of Western culture and freedom.
Terry says
The EU IS DEMANDING THAT THESE COUNTRIES (CZECH, ETC. TAKE IN THE SYRIANS; BALKAN PEOPLES, ETC.
They do not want to. IF THE AUSTRIANS ARE SO DEMENTED-AS THEY APPEAR TO BE-LAST ELECTION, RE-ELECTED THE PARTY THAT IS BRINGING IN THESE PEOPLE. SWEDEN- CANNOT SAY OR DO ANYTHING ANTI MUSLIM, SAME IN ONCE GREAT BRITAIN; MERKEL’S PARTY RECENTLY WON AN ELECTION IN A LARGE PROVINCE (or whatever it is called in Germany)- SO THESE PEOPLE -NOT ONLY THEIR LEADERS, BUT MANY OF THEIR PEOPLE- ARE LOOKING TO COMMIT NATIONAL SUICIDE.
these countries are showing NO SIGNS of be willing to fight against the Muslim invasion.
They should not be forcing others to do the same.
LB says
You’re talking as if all people from Balkans want to go “migrate” to the glorious and rich Western Europe. It is only some muslims (see the connection?) from Albania and Bosnia that want to economically immigrate like their middle eastern bretheren.
Especially the ones from Kosovo; they were the first wave to Germany before the entire Middle East decided to move there. Why, you ask? Because it was only when the Albanian muslims drove away the native Serbs from their (Serbian) ancestral land and got “independence” that they realized that Serbs were the ones who were maintaining Kosovo’s economy. The result? Over 40% unemployment for people of ages between 18 and 30. The only jobs that thrive there now are drug dealing, pimping, human and organ trafficking, etc. How wonderful!
gravenimage says
Not all, but most migrants from Syria are Sunnis.
Terry says
I was unaware of that. Other than by torture; mass murders; etc. have the Assad’s kept power so long? (Current Assad inherited-along with fixed elections– the presidency from his father).
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By the way, in another post, CHRISTIANBLOOD claims that Syria is NON ISLAMIC.
Peggy says
Muslims only know and respect force. Saddam, Assad and Gadaffi and the only ones who could keep the rabid Muslims subdued.
gravenimage says
Terry, I think it has been a combination of apathy, and force and playing various factions off against each by the government, as Peggy notes. But now Muslims are newly emboldened by the revitalization of Islam–especially the “Arab Spring”.
It is rather like Saddam Hussein–a Sunni–riding herd on Shia-majority Iraq for so long.
And Christianblood is wrong. Assad has emphasized Islam less than some, mostly because he is an adherent of a small splinter sect–the Alawites–that few orthodox Muslims, Sunni or Shia–recognize. But Syria is *not* a secular state.
terry says
I think Christianblood is wrong on many things. Like “little innocent Cuba”–but 66 years after Castro took power, Cubans still risk death to get the hell out.
And there are still “political prisoners” there.
I (when I lived in the Miami/Ft Lauderdale area) knew many Cubans- and what they all had in common was a hatred of Castro.
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OFF TOPIC- BUT I AM SURE THAT YOU-PROBABLY OTHERS- WOULD FIND INTERESTING;
THE UNIVERSITY OF CAL. IN SAN FRANCISCO IS BEING SUED-BY A NGO AND A PRESTIGIOUS LAW FIRM–FOR ANTISEMITISM (AND, MY GUESS, DEPRIVING JEWISH STUDENTS OF THEIR CIVIL RIGHTS). (one of three today- Tues 6/20/17- JTA, Honest Reporting or Israel Today)-stems from when the Mayor of a major Israeli city was invited to speak, and the Nazi used bullhorns and intimidation AND THE SCHOOL TOLD THE POLICE TOT STAND DOWN AND NOT DO ANYTHING.
The head of the school, Board of Regents, members of the same, etc. all being sued. The resposne ” we haven’t had a chance to read the suit—blah blah blah”.
I hope the school pays through their rectum.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Keep in mind the Assad family stopped the regular 3 to 4 year bloodbath that Syria went through prior to the Assad family taking power. When the people started protesting (peacefully) in the 2012 time frame he tried to give more freedom and even proposed a new Constitution. Look for this file 81771718-Qordoba-Translation-of-the-Syrian-Constitution-Modifications-15-2-2012.pdf , but the Islamics did not like it since it did not Shar’iah law the law of the land. After that we got the typically Islamic violence that continues to this day. I did some basic research on this a couple of years ago.
SV says
Why take in the people that voted in favor of more refugees?
Jack Holan says
If the EU wins in court don’t pay up and refuse Migrants. They won’t use armed Force. They’re afraid of their shadow. Your countries must survive
Sons of Liberty says
Exactly ! Poland has taken in Christian refugees , ….which are the REAL refugees. Christians are the ones being targeted by Muslims. Let the Muslims live in the hell hole their ideology created in the Middle East. The apostate Muslims need to leave Islam . Syria before Muhammed ,..was a predominately Christian nation.
Charli Main says
Syria before Muhammed ,..was a predominately Christian nation.
So was Egypt, Tunisia, Algeria, Morrocco and Anatolia ( now Muslim Turkey) among dozens of others.
All had Islam forced on them by the sword of Muslim invaders.
TH says
They should do none of the sort. They should stand by their principles and refuse no matter what the lawsuit says. Tell the unelected, anti-democrátic Europan Commission to go and jump in the lake. Even the Un agrees that 82% of them are not refugees.
Cunamarra says
I must disagree. Taking in refugees from the states that have welcomed in Islam would pollute the demographics of patriotic and sane Poles, Czechs, and Huns, with multiculturalist morons that believe Islam is really peaceful, Christianity is the most evil ideology ever, and in general that up is down.
This would also create a demographic vacuum where native Italians and Greeks would be leaving their country all the more to be overrun by the Hagarenes. It would also absolve or post pone those Native European Refugees of the consequences they have rightly earned by denigrating their own ancestors’ good culture while celebrating the evil culture of their spiritual, intellectual, and political enemies.
Better that they feel the lash against their own hides for their own transgressions. Perhaps then they may see and feel the folly of their reasoning and correct their mistakes in their children’s thinking before they too are condemned to a life time under the dhimma.
Jerseylass says
Poland has already taken in a huge amount of Ukranians. That should count for something.
Patzy says
That’s right. There is no reason those Islamists should be allowed into Western nations. Their Muslims brothers should take them in…if there is really a need.
Santa Voorhees says
“I regret to see that, despite our repeated calls to pledge to relocate, the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland have not yet taken the necessary action,”
No, they DID take the necessary action. No wonder they haven’t suffered any jihad attacks yet.
gravenimage says
+1
Jack Holan says
The leaders of these countries care enough about their citizenry who elected them to protect them to carry out their duty and do just that protect People Country Heritage in this order.
IQ al Rassooli says
It should be obvious to any rational human being that the leaders of Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic are patriots who do not want their citizens terrorized by Muslim ‘refugees’ while the other members of the EU are hell bent on self destruction
I shall repeat posting the attaches article as many times as necessary hoping it may awaken many otherwise ignorant Europeans regarding the existential threat posed by Muslim to Europeans~
EUROPE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
I have been predicting for over 12 years (on 1200 radio & TV talk shows in the USA) that almost the entirety of the European Elites (political, media, academic and clergy) are literally committing national suicide by accommodating Muslims who will NEVER ever either integrate or assimilate but actually undermine the security, welfare and economies of the West.
Watching and reading the latest acts of intimidation, mass murder, rape and terror all over Europe committed entirely by Muslim men – so called ‘refugees’ – against Christian females all over Western Europe, I realized it is about time to convey the following article to the attention of the American and British people before the Elites in the USA & UK also bring about the destruction of the American and British ways of life hoping that enough of them will wake up and join parties and or organizations that will stop more Muslims from immigrating as well as making Sharia a criminal offense.
Please be aware that since this article was written, Muslims are now about 35 million (if not greater) in Western Europe and thousands more are being allowed in daily in both the USA and UK.
The following is a translation of the most prescient and articulate article ever written about the future of Europe which was published in Spain
AFTER the Madrid bombings by a Spanish journalist
Sebastian Vivar Rodriguez: November 21, 2004:
“I was walking along Raval (in Barcelona) when all of a sudden,
I understood that Europe died in Auschwitz.
We assassinated 6 million Jews in order to end up bringing in 20 million Muslims!
We burnt in Auschwitz the culture, intelligence and power to create.
We burnt the people of the world, the one who is proclaimed the chosen people of God.
We must admit that Europe, by relaxing its borders and giving in under the pretext of tolerance to the values of a fallacious cultural relativism, opened its doors to 20 million Muslims, often illiterates and fanatics that we could meet, at best, in places such as Raval, the poorest of the nations and of the ghettos, and who are preparing the worst, such as the 9/11 and the Madrid bombing and who are lodged in apartment blocs provided by the social welfare.
We have also exchanged culture with fanaticism, the capacity to create with the will to destroy, the wisdom with the superstition. We have exchanged the transcendental instinct of the Jews, who even under the worst possible conditions have always looked for a better peaceful world, for the suicide bomber. We have exchanged the pride of life for the fanatic obsession of death.
Our death and that of our children.
What a grave mistake that we made!!!
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Having studied these subjects over a period of over two decades, I would like to point out the following simple facts that invariably escape the attention of people who do not have the time or make the effort to reflect upon these issues:
1 The Jews have lived in Europe for nearly 2000 years (long before a single European state existed) especially after the conquest of their country Judea by the Romans.
2 The Jews were NEVER a threat to Europe nor to Christianity in any way shape or form:
a) Not numerically
b) Not militarily
c) Not economically
d) Not culturally
e) Not theologically
f) Not racially
g) Not demographically
h) Not intellectually
i) They assimilated without losing their identity
j) They survived in spite of their persecution and slaughter
k) They contributed enormously in the sciences, economics, medicine and other fields out of proportion to their numbers
l) They fought in the defence of their countries of residence whether French, German, English or Russian
m) They obeyed all the rules of the lands they lived in and were utterly loyal to them
3 On the other hand:
a) The Muhammadan Muslims do NOT integrate or assimilate, because they are prohibited from doing so by Muhammad’s Quran
b) They demand their religious rights in our democracies while they deny every which one to us (none Muslims) in their countries
c) They declare publicly, and in their mosques every Friday, their intention to subvert our systems of freedoms and human rights and subjugate them instead to Muhammadan Islamic Sharia
d) They use our own democracies and liberties to bring about the very changes that will destroy us
e) They are a threat demographically and theologically to Christian Europe and the USA
f) Their loyalty is first and foremost NOT to the countries they reside in but to the UMMA (nation) of Muhammadan Islam
g) Their threat to our freedoms, our religions, our liberties and our democracies is both Internal as well as External
If some of these observations may sound racist or inflammatory to the ultrasensitive ears of the Politically Correct dim wits, they are NOT, since they are based entirely on facts and reality as we read about them and see them daily in our news.
All anyone in doubt has to do is READ only chapters 2 to 9 of Muhammad’s Quran and watch the repeated mass slaughter of unarmed innocent European, American, Russian, Indian, Chinese, Iraqi etc. civilians by Muslims proclaiming they are doing the butchery to PLEASE their demonic god Allah
Our worst enemies are from within us represented by many of:
Our spineless politicians, our criminally ignorant media, our uncomprehending and misguided clergy and last but not least our utterly contemptible academicians, all of whom are thus aiding, abetting and colluding with the very Muslims who seek our destruction and the subjugation of our children and our future generations
As usual, all that Europeans get from their criminally negligent leaders after every Islamic mass murder are platitudes, meaningless expressions of sympathy to the hapless victims by the very leaders who are unwilling to protect their citizenry because of their abject denial of all Facts and Reality regarding the TRUTH
I sincerely hope that many of you will reflect upon what I am stating and hopefully act instead of waiting for others to do so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTuFA1fQ-yg&feature=youtu.be&a
Again I challenge any Muslim (or anyone else) to prove anything I reveal as either wrong, false or misleading.
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
TL says
Yes, that’s shocking, and it’s a reminder that humanism is a religion devised by fools. Just don’t lose sight of two important facts:
(1) Christianity is a Jewish heresy.
(2) Islam is a Christian heresy.
sog says
Judaism and Christianity are Islamic heresy, explicit in the Koran and Hadith, and heresy that is acted upon with innocent fatalities. I don’t see anything that begins to resemble that in the New Testament. Do you?
gravenimage says
Great post, sog.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Christianity and Judaism have no relationship to Islam. While Jews may not accept Christianity it comes out of Torah/Old Testament prophecies. Islam involves the worship of the Arab moon god Hubal (Baal) chief god of around 360 gods. Mohammad’s god was losing followers so Mohammad first tried to convince Jews and Christians his god was Jehovah and Christ was just as prophet. He ran into a number of problems. Jews and Christians knew who Mohammad’s god was and knew Mohammad was a liar. Plus if Christ was not who he said he was then Christ was a liar and a false prophet. And a false prophet is rejected not followed. Mohammad’s lies, like all who lie, become obvious and self-contradicting. So Mohammad went back to stealing and waging war. Real history indicates he was a warlord of some sort who made a living stealing other people’s property and goods. And Islamics follow the example Mohammad set to this day. Islamics continue to lie and about who they worship and continue to follow Mohammad’s violent practices.
Remember, the “allah” when properly translated means “the god”. It is not a name but a contraction of the word “al” (the) and “ilah” (god). And apparently when Mohammad was alive it was used to refer to Hubal in the same way most people in the Western World use the word “God” to refer to Jehovah/Christ.
Sog, I agree with gravenimage about your related post.
Lucia Bartoli says
I ❤️your remarks and they are absolutely correct in every aspect. My late uncle, a priest and righteous gentile, liberated 5-1945 – Mauthausen, stood with the Jews. I and my family today are proud to stand with Israel! I would love to have a copy of your statement as it is profound and true!
IQ al Rassooli says
Much appreciated remarks
Lucia, just listen to the full video link attached and tell me what you think
Regards
IQ
gravenimage says
Kudos to you both!
Hector Archytas says
Considering their demographic success of the Ashkenazi Jews who move from 400 families in central europe to form 92 % of all jew
flourished during the Roman Empire but then went through a ‘severe bottleneck’ as they dispersed, reducing a population of several million to just 400 families who left Northern Italy around the year 1000 for Central and eventually Eastern Europe.”[123]
they might have fear in the XIX century that they would end up to controle the whole world. The torah well known to Christian was also a pretty scary book.
Therefore, they might have ground to believe that anti-semistic was partly furl by the successs of this community as muslim are fear today.
gravenimage says
Hector Archytas wrote:
they might have fear in the XIX century that they would end up to controle the whole world. The torah well known to Christian was also a pretty scary book.
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Hector, the Torah is known to Christians as the Old Testament. The idea that Christians are terrified by their own Bible is quite mistaken.
More:
Therefore, they might have ground to believe that anti-semistic was partly furl by the successs of this community as muslim are fear today.
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Hector, Jews were not slaughtering Christians, nor were they trying to impose Judaism on Christians.
But Muslims *are* murdering Christians and other Infidels every day–did you miss those 31,000+ Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11? And the purpose of Jihad is to force Infidels to submit to Islam.
terry says
After Biblical times, but especially in the 19th & 20th Centuries ( and through today) JEWS ARE THE LEAST LIKELY OF ANY MAJOR RELIGION TO SEEK CONVERTS.
Orthodox Jews the least of the least likely to seek converts.
And, in the Eastern European countries ( and many western European countries as well) JEWS WERE FORBIDDEN TO ENTER CERTAIN PROFESSIONS, SO THEY STAYED IN THE ONES THAT THEY WERE ALLOWED IN-LIKE MEDICINE, SCIENCE, ETC.
an excellent book ( and easy reading) on this topic is THE JEWISH MYSTIQUE.
Also, there was a member of The Dutch Reformed Church, who, in the 1950’s-60’s wrote a number of books. His name was Ernest Van Der Haag. I read a great deal of what he wrote, but cannot recall the titles. (Might be out of print-I do not know).
WPM says
You are 100 percent right there is nothing I could add .
gravenimage says
Great post, IQ al Rassooli.
And Lucia, kudos to you and to your uncle!
Donald R Laster Jr says
Inconvenient facts for “Progressives” and those making excuse for Islam, as well as trying to blame Jews for what Europeans have done to themselves.
Steve Klein says
Here is what sticks in my craw about the Europeans, especially Western Europeans. Israel has better than a couple of million hostile Muslim-Arabs living in this tiny land; most of whom are implacable enemies. The Europeans haven’t any empathy for what Israel has had to endure for many decades. In fact they are pressuring the Israelis to exacerbate the problem by giving their enemies a state and a foothold in the strategic “West Bank,” Judea and Samaria.
Same thing increasingly is the case with this country, the U.S., sadly. It irritates me when President Trumps says things he knows to be untrue like: “Palestinians are ready to reach for peace. I know you heard it before. I’m telling you, that’s what I do, they are ready to reach for peace.”
Quoting Frederick Douglass: “Will not a righteous God visit for these things?”
Terry says
Mr. Klein (AND GRAVEN, AND ALL OTHERS)
SEE THE JWR ( JEWISH WORLD REVIEW) – THIS PAST FRIDAY.
there is an excellent article there, about HOW OBAMA AND KERRY –IN ESSENCE- THE ARTICLE USES NICER TERMS, TRIED TO SCREW ISRAEL WITH THEIR (IE. OBAMA AND KERRY’S) PEACE PROPOSALS.
APPARENTLY, some of this was never revealed before. KERRY AND OBAMA WANTED ISRAEL TO MAKE CONCESSIONS THAT THE P.A. DID NOT EVEN ASK FOR, AND IN THE PAST, DID NOT ASK FOR THESE CONCESSIONS.
Amazing the length that those two pieces of animal bodily waste would go to, to screw Israel.
And they (O & K) were upset that PM Bibi N just ignored their requests. Great article.
JWR ONLINE IS FREE.
gravenimage says
Terry, Jewish World Review is indeed a great resource whether one is Jewish or Gentile (as I am) and I check it out at least once a week or so:
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/
I think this is the article you were referring to:
“Burying Obama’s legacy”
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0617/glick061617.php3
Caroline Glick is a marvelous writer, and *very* Islamo-savvy.
Terry says
That is the article
gravenimage says
🙂
TL says
Check out this graph and map concerning mujahid arrests in the EU during 2016. Notice anything odd about it?
https://www.statista.com/chart/9858/jihadist-arrests-in-the-eu/
gravenimage says
Not really–France has the largest population of Muslims in Europe.
Westman says
Two things – Germany has far too few and Poland has more than expected. To make this a bit more relevant, let’s proportion these arrests over the total population.
France – 429 jihadi arrests per 67 million population. 1 per 156,000 citizens.
Germany – 25 jihadi arrests per 81 million population. 1 per 3,200,000 citizens.
Poland – 5 jihadi arrests per 38 million population. 1 per 7,600,009 citizens.
It’s obvious that Germany is either not pursuing jihadists or else reporting false numbers to Europol.
Westman says
7,600,000 replaces 7,600,009.
gravenimage says
True, Westman.
utis says
I wish Poland and Hungary and the Czech Republic all the luck in the world. They’ve had a long history of fighting outside invasion from Islam and other entities. They got rid of the Soviets only in the 1990’s. They know what living under jackboots is like.
It’s good to see what a rotten apple the EU is. Europeans are O.K.; it’s the EU leadership that’s batty. They do not believe in democracy. They do no believe in self-determination. They do believe in imposing their delusional vision of reality on their members. Is everyone in EU leadership a pot-head?
tedh754@gmail.com says
And what if the court rules against the EU? Is the EU going to go to war to make those countries take in those people? To quote an murderous communist dictator, “How many divisions does the EU have?”
notmoron says
VIVA POLAND!
VIVA HUNGARY!
VIVA CZECH REPUBLIC!
Lucia Bartoli says
I guess the EU has become the 21st century version of the former USSR. (Millennials, look that up). Your gang has NO right whatsoever to dictate to any sovereign nation what it must or must not do. The only way you can keep going is by threats?? As a politically incorrect free American your EU and all of its b s, can take your lawsuit and shove it. You are not beneficial to the world. You are a pathetic league of a new breed of Nazi! Go to hell!
Anne Smith says
Yes, in UK those who wanted to leave the EU have long called it the EUSSR.
It will, in the end, collapse under the weight of its own debts and lack of competitiveness in the world but until that happens its members will suffer under the yoke of the German Chancellor, Merkel who is now effectively running the whole show. It seems she has achieved by stealth what Hitler failed to do by belligerency.
Westman says
And when Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary refuse, will the EU, after some kangaroo court procedings, send its non-existent army to get compliance? NATO, essentially the US , certainly won’t back the forcing of imigrants into their borders.
Let’s hope these counties keep their sovereignty rather than devolving into one-world globalist mediocracy.
c matt says
Not sure what economic powers the EU may have. Depending on how Polish, Czech and Hungarian banks are structured, the EU may be able to freeze assets or inhibit commerce, don’t know if the EU (aka Germany) is propping up their banks and pensions, and who knows on what else the EU elites have their sticky fingers. I doubt it would come to a shooting war when there are plenty of other weapons to utilize. And even if Trump makes overtures, he is not the one wielding power. American elites (remember, they are the ones who have happily destroyed our country by off-shoring our working middle class) are in complete cahoots with their EU counterparts. But PCH, I do wish you the best.
Donald R Laster Jr says
If the EU does interfere with banking those countries would just figure out a way to trade with Russia and the US without the EU involvement, And Russia would welcome the economic influence.
gravenimage says
Russia would certainly welcome the opportunity to oppress these countries again. This would not be a perfect solution, either.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Don’t forget that Russia is not under the control of the Communist/”Progressives” anymore. While I doubt Putin would be altruistic he would not oppress them. He is not blind like the Communist/”Progressives”. He knows I am pretty sure that if the Eastern European States prosper and Russia helps them prosper Russia prospers and gains credible influence.
Transmaster says
Har-de-har-har, go ahead and sue Brussels. The Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland will tell Brussels, KISS OUR ROYAL ASSHOLES’. Brussels here are some words for you; Czechexit, Hungexit, and Polexit. Donald Trump has made it clear that any country that drops out is the EU can deal with the United States Directly. The EU was never intended to be the political autocracy is has become, it was envisioned as a economic alliance. The UK is already on it’s way out. In fact the former Warsaw Pac countries are very unhappy with Brussels complaining they have traded The Soviet Union for similar treatment from Brussel. The EU is doomed.
Anne Smith says
Actually Transmaster it was always envisioned as a political entity, and the abolition of boundaries and nation states was always the end game. The EU in Brussels is quite open about this in its literature and in the eulogies ;plastered over the walls to the founding fathers. It is just that it was not sold to the populations of the member states as such, they were told (as in UK by the late and unlamented Edward Heath for example) that it was merely a trading bloc.
The EU was always intended to be the United States of Europe – one superstate which did away with nation states, and which could compete on a world stage with the US.
abad says
What will it take to dissolve the EU?
The fact of the matter is this:
Outside of Turkey, Moslems do NOT belong in Europe, economic or otherwise.
The economically needy Moslems can apply for aid from King Salman of Saudi Arabia he has plenty to share with these Moslems.
Voytek Gagalka says
Advice to Poland, Hungary and Czech Republic: don’t get involved in any “legal arguments in court.” It will be too costly, too long and it will not work. Don’t rely on courts. Rely on yourself only. Leave the EU instead. ASAP.
Wellington says
I would like to see the Trump Administration make additional and mutually advantageous trade deals with these three Eastern European nations so that EU influence over these three diminishes even more. Worth a shot anyway.
Transmaster says
Trump has already said that the United States is open to trade agreements to any country that leaves the EU. Right now Brussels is blocking any independent trade agreements. Brussels is the same den of thieves who want to make manufacturing companies using robots pay social security on each one.
Terry says
That is a joke, isn’t it? Social security taxes on robots?
I thought the EU trying to tell Britain about sizes, wattage etc of vacuum cleaners was ludicrous, but that is beyond that.
Transmaster says
No Joke Terry.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-robotics-lawmaking-idUSKCN0Z72AY
Transmaster says
Trump has already said that the United States is open to trade agreements to any country that leaves the EU. Right now Brussels is blocking any independent trade agreements. Brussels is the same den of thieves who want to make manufacturing companies using robots pay social security on each one.
clap says
Leave the European Union and form the Eastern European Union.
Cthulhu says
There is already The Visegrad Group (with Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia). Those countries just need to leave EUSSR.
Peggy says
I would agree with leaving the EU 100% but forming another union might be risky.
So much potential for abuse of power. It would really need to be examined and safeguards put in place that it doesn’t become another EU.
Who will head this new union? Will they be elected or appointed? Will it have a rotating presidency?
Guest says
Just when you think the EU couldn’t sink lower
Rob says
I think the Eastern European states had enough of lebensraum in the 1940s.
newUser says
I hope the three countries stay muslim free even if they have to leave the EU. It is not worth being an EU member at the present time. Western Europe is as safe as the ME.
John A. Marre says
I hope these three countries leave the EU.
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
I think “Kill yourself” is a reasonable proposal for leftists and spineless politicians who encourage their daughters to be sold into sex slavery and their boys to be beheaded by Islamic jihadist savages. For strong willed cultural baddies, however, no can do I am afraid. Death before submission.
gravenimage says
Kill yourselves, or else: EU sues Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic for not taking Muslim migrants
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I hope that Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic continue to fight this insanity.
If not, it might be time for Pexit, Hexit, and Czexit…
Peggy says
And if Serbia was in and wanting to leave would it be called a sexit?
Just kidding.
I have always stated that EU should be demolished and am so glad to see that more people from here are in favour of it. It wasn’t always the case.
With dialogue and a few bad experiences minds can be changed.
gravenimage says
Sexit? I like that, Peggy… 🙂
mortimer says
“The EU wants to make sure that all of its members commit cultural and civilizational suicide …”
This looks, then, like the end of the EU. This is the Waterloo of EU.
Donald R Laster Jr says
These countries understand the threat that the Islamics, that people are calling “refugees”, represent to their countries and citizens. These countries should dump the EU and form the own association.
Sarah says
OK, so I understand that Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic are loathe to leave the EU for the simple factors that belonging to the EU brings in a lot of cold hard cash, allows their citizens to travel, work and live in other EU nations, which also brings home, a lot of cash and as a result of that cash and the memberships, they get an elevation in standard of living that they are unable to give themselves at this stage.
Tempting. Very very tempting. And its extremely painful to lose, no doubt, once you’ve had a good long taste of it. Just ask Greece and Italy.
But its not worth it, not at this price. And I think these 3 are reluctantly, slowly waking up to it. Dissolving their membership in the EU will eventually become the price they will have to pay – and that’s a hard job for the Politicians to sell to the people, who probably want to have their cake and eat it too. I would want that, in their shoes. Why not, when up until recently at least, that was how it was? It was only Angela Merkel who made a choice and a decision that has epic consequences – that she is forcing on the entire EU without choice, that has made a change to this.
The biggest issue with the concept of the EU is the steady, incremental dissolution of the ‘State’, the eradication of the autonomy of the nation’s with membership. And that despite this slow erasure, the powerhouse nation’s, like Germany and France, still manage to retain an uneven level of control and power over the entire EU as a whole.
The EU as it stands, will fall. A core EU will probably take its place, for awhile anyway, made up of those powerhouse nation’s. And war will return to the landscape of Europe, building on the inevitable civil wars and skirmishes that are going to erupt first, mostly to do with the Islamic invasion and the erosion of cultural and living standards as Europeans currently know it. .
Clearly, the lessons of the Great War and WW2 were not learned, after all. Because yet again, we see German supremacy starting to cause great misery for countless millions across Europe and mark my words, we will see Germany bring war back to the European landscape again, soon enough.
When the dust settles, those of us who survive – if our Western way survives as the winner – we will need to put Germany as a nation and a culture to rest, permanently, if all this happens. Otherwise, Germany will rise from the ashes, once more – and the cycle will repeat itself again in another 100 years.
Anne Smith says
Sarah – a great and accurate analysis.
gravenimage says
Good analysis, Sarah.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Sarah
Monty says
Those countries being blackmailed should quit the EU immediately. I’m sure that they could beat the EU. They have much lower cost structures and they have benefited from their membership to modernise their economies. Ok, time to leave and start trading with non-EU nations.
Surak says
I hope the V4 (Visegrad) Group (Czechia, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia) will declare independence from the EU. They seem to be among the few European countries that desire to live.
Stan Lee says
All that needs considering is how common were attacks in the EU before Muslims were granted “asylum” in those countries allowing their admittance? I presume anyone would know the answer to that issue by now.
Europeans have been attacked with regularity, rapes, stabbings, murders, vehicles used to mow down pedestrians, most of which were never issues but they have become prevalent since hordes of Muslims arrived to Euro states. Intense hate on the part of “asylum seekers” is the vile side of this type of immigration. If they intend peace, it must be on their terms…meaning you submit to Islam.
Then, why are the origins and religious agendas of these Islamic arrivals covered over with such hesitancy to specifically identify these thugs? They certainly have clear concepts of whom their victims are to be!
As I type this, a report came in from London, where yet another vehicle was aimed at and rolled over pedestrians. Armed police (miracle of miracles!) arrived at the scene quickly, but nevertheless casualties were suffered, to what degree is yet unspecified by the authorities. This came from Skye News. The fact is, terrorists take no days off, they especially react to days when people are off from work and “out and about.” Good luck and God bless to all exposed to carnage in EU countries..
Jack Holan says
If the EU wins in court don’t pay up and refuse Migrants. They won’t use armed Force. They’re afraid of their shadow. Your countries must survive
Matthieu Baudin says
Perhaps the EU will shrink a little more following on from the British planned withdrawal.
These Central European Countries however need trade and economic security if they are to continue to remain prosperous forward looking open societies. Free trade arrangements with the U.S. accompanying a significantly increased participation within NATO may help secure this stability while strengthening the U.S. led international counter terrorism effort.
Jack Holan says
I want open thinking mind arriving at sonwers. Why is that the wealthy Gulf States not taking just 1 of their Breateren? This would be Qatar , United Emerites, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia? Isn’t it funny how former Se Gen of the UN Moon’s South Korea only receiving a handful if even tis many. Basically they are ignoring them while Moon pontificated. Japan was supposed to get 5000 and vetted them accepting only ONE. They UN EU Canada and Our State Department. Prefer to put us in harms way. What happened in the legal system to the Syrian refugee snuck in during the Ban by Senator SCHUMER He turned out not to be a minor when he raped the 12 year old and now the Pess have gone silent. Up in MN the ‘Refugee’ “Youths” who raped a 5 year old retarded girl and video taped it; the Judge threated the parents of the girl not to reveal the sentence or THEY WOULD go to jail a The boys got probation. I guess the Judge felt Migrant boys will be Migrant boys. This will become the norm of our society and culture if we don’t stop it now, tell our liberal friends the truth and not hide
gravenimage says
Of course Muslim countries don’t want to take these “refugees”. Firstly, there is no charity in Islam. And them, these “refugees” are intended to be an invading army into Europe.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
It bears repeating, the V4 needs to walk away from the easy EU money.
What or who is behind this invasion? Orban has long claimed that Soros is the puppet master. This puppet master’s name is showing up everywhere.
For example, I just saw, on youtube, a independent investigative report (Periscope) about the the never ending deep-state driven Trump-Russia witch-hunt. (It contains a lot of material and is hard to follow, but is worth a watch.):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDoSxp4Oxss
(Note: I made a reference to this subject in an older post.)
Laura says
Czech Republic, Poland and Hungary could fulfil their ‘obligations’ by taking in only the horribly persecuted CHRISTIAN refugees?
Owen Morgan says
Poland, Hungary etc have a cast-iron case. No country is obliged to accommodate “migrants”. No country is required to give refuge to “refugees”, if the latter have already passed through a safe country. Most of the people descending on Italy and Greece are migrants, not, in any way, authentic refugees. In order to reach Poland, they have to go through several safe countries. If you classify them as refugees, they shouldn’t proceed beyond the Mediterranean lands. Since they are migrants, not genuine refugees, they should be turned back.
Thanks to Stasi Merkel, however, the distinction between “migrant” and “refugee” has been hopelessly fudged. Merkel invited millions of people from Africa and Asia to flood Europe, with no apparent thought for the consequences. Now that that has turned out to be an entirely predictable disaster in Germany, Merkel wants to share the pain – and the EU machinery is at Berlin’s beck and call. I’d urge the Poles and Hungarians to ignore anything from Brussels and to stand their ground. Merkel committed slow-motion political suicide on behalf of Germany; the Germans may still be daft enough to vote for her, but there’s no reason for anyone else to suffer on her account.
Haven’t the Germans wrecked Europe often enough already?
Lon Spector says
Eastern Europe go down fighting. Death before dishonor.
The West is insane, suicidal, and cucked. HOW you die is just as important as how you live.
Creole Gumbo says
Why can’t more people see this for what it is? Ethnic cleansing (of Whites and European Culture)
Cameron says
Turn at least a part of Syria into a convict settlement and send any refugees who incite hatred or violence or break any laws or cause any trouble for western civil society there instead to help rebuild the country.
Two birds, one stone.
Proud Anti-Islam says
Those 3 countries do not want Muslim immigrants? Good for them!!!! EU is nothing, but full of snobs and cowards and full of ignorance. Down with EU. Long live Poland, Czech Republic, and Hungary. Those 3 countries are very smart for not allowing Muslim immigrants. I hope to God that EU will lose the battle, while the 3 countries will win the battle.
DFD says
The EU suing the Visigrads? The result will be as fixed as a, or as most, western European election(s).
None of the Visigrads, nor any other EU country for that matter, has signed any agreement that stipulates the acceptance of refugees against their will. There is nothing like that in the membership agreements or rules. At least, not that I am aware of.
So on what ground will the Brussels force these countries, or any other rejecting country, to accept refugees, never mind a quota? Not one of the signatories has given up their national sovereignty, nor have they given up (and neither were they asked to) their rights to determine their own population structure in whatever form. The Schengen agreement, violated by various countries such as Germany, Denmark, France, etc., may stipulate the free movement of Europeans; but there is no universal definition of a European.
Essentially, ANY European country can close its borders to whomever it so decides. Brussels has absolutely no legal grounds to force anyone country to accept alien colonists (even if they sail under the flag of ‘refugee’) who are mostly illeterate and many have proven links to well known terrorist organizations.
Any judicial claim or ‘judgement’ from Brussels can be rejected on less than half a page! They simply have no legal grounds.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Don’t forget that for “Progressives” the rules do not apply to them. It is what every they want it to be at the time. Another word for “Progressives” is hypocrite.