This is reminiscent of the constant claims that Israel’s response to jihad attacks is “disproportionate.” The Left, and the establishment propaganda media that it controls, is forever solicitous of Islamic jihadis and those who shelter and protect them. The Left’s concern is never for the well-being of free people.
“MSNBC Host Wonders if There’s ‘Risk of Overreaction’ by Authorities Responding to London Terrorism,” by David Rutz, Washington Free Beacon, June 4, 2017:
MSNBC anchor Richard Lui asked a law enforcement analyst guest Saturday if there was a risk of “overreaction” from authorities responding to terrorism during coverage of the attack in London, Mediaite reports.
Seven people were killed and dozens were injured in an attack Saturday by three men on London Bridge and nearby Borough Market. According to BBC, the terrorists rammed a van into pedestrians on the bridge and then got out, wielding knives and stabbing civilians. The assailants were later killed by police.
As images of the police response to the terror attack played out on MSNBC, Lui asked guest Jim Cavanaugh if, in his experience, there could be an excessive amount of force used by law enforcement for such incidents.
“When you have analyzed these incidents post facto, as well as during … there’s certainly a risk of under-reaction—but is there any risk of overreaction, of deploying too much?” he asked. “You know, as we’ve been watching all of this live coming into our satellite center here in New York City and then beaming it out from London, is there ever a point where you go, ‘Well, that’s too much,’ or ‘You shouldn’t be applying that amount of force there.'”
Cavanugh demurred, saying the police response couldn’t be “too large” in such cases….
AnneM says
What over-reaction?
mortimer says
SADOMASOCISM doesn’t acknowledge TOO MUCH PAIN. This MSNBC host is the spokesman of SADISM.
He WANTS Western people to suffer for the sins of their great-great-great-great grandparents. They have it coming to them.
SADOMASOCHISM is the emotional subtext of ISLAM and Western elites.
mortimer says
MSNBC … SICK!
Graham says
AGREED!
Graham says
Gavin McInnes suggested that all of the terrorists families and relations should be deported to sharia run countries! This would make those family members turn in their terrorist relations before anything happens knowing that they, and their children, WILL BE DEPORTED away from this freedom loving country full of benefits! Idon’t think that there is a better solution that would finally force the ‘so called moderates’ to be responsible! It’s a great idea!
Paul says
What about the sins of the Jihadis great great grandparents? Isn’t Islam the most successful colonial project in world history?
Michael Copeland says
The most ruthless.
Julius O'Malley says
The sins of their great, great, great grandparents? You mean the people who abolished slavery, whose navy patrolled the high seas and stamped out the maritime slave trade?
JMB says
Under-reaction if anything. I switched the TV off when I heard the British M say that all of this is a “Perversion of Islam”. I heard another commentator go on and on how that Muslims in the UK feel marginalised and this leads them to carry out these attacks. I suppose the next move by the Brits will be more appeasement, as in 1938. Also, talking of 1938, their great war-time PM Winston Churchill did warn the Western World of the future dangers of Islam.
JMB says
Note re above, “M” should read PM. But note, I will get all future news of this terror attack from this web site where you will get the truth of the matter.
Arthur says
And yet neighbors of the perpetrators have said that they were friendly and neighborly. Doesn’t sound a bit like “marginalized.”
Bamaguje says
I think Richard Lui is referring to Trump’s reiteration of his proposed Muslim ban.
Even expelling all Muslims would not be over-reaction.
JMB says
It would be simple commonsense, repatriation of Muslims should not be considered as hate, but just a simple and humane measure to stop the War on the West from within. In previous conflicts I think they used the term “5th Column”
Michael Copeland says
“It is a fifth column and we will rise up one day and implement the Sharia.”
Anjem Choudary
http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2011/08/anjem-choudary-exploits-norwegian.html
Paul says
Really? I doubt that even he himself knows what he is referring to. He is just a pompous, self-righteous idiot trying to prove his moral superiority and loyalty to leftist orthodoxy.
Bernie says
I agree totally, he’s obviously been indoctrinated in the Left’s blame the victims and see no evil philosophy. He’s also an A-1 douchebag.
Ian H says
Theresa May blames … the internet.
Patricia F Koenig says
There is an under-reaction to terror attacks! All non-citizens on Watch Lists should be deported.
IQ al Rassooli says
Is Jihadism Rising in the West? Why?
These are unfortunately irrelevant questions because Jihad against non Muslims was proclaimed and acted upon by Muhammad and Muslims for the last 1400 years and is MANDATED in Sharia.
Dear British/ American/ European Infidels/ Kuffar, please always remember that as Infidels/ Kuffar/ Non Muslims, you are NOT the only ones targeted for Subjugation to Sharia or EXTERMINATION by Muslims (Arabs or otherwise) hence it is VITAL that you realize that one does not need more than two brain cells of logic to understand Muslims and Islam in a nutshell~
Since every Muslim is Sharia compliant, every Muslim cannot ever be a Law abiding LOYAL citizen in ANY non Muslim nation because these nations do not submit to Allah’s Sharia.
Hence every Muslim is the mortal and eternal enemy of every non Muslim Infidel/ Kafir on planet Earth (80% of current humanity)
Every Muslim is a potential Mass Murderer the instant he/ she decides that he/she is NOT Sharia compliant enough. (just like in the current case)
I agree that Not ALL Muslims are Terrorists BUT 100% of Terrorist attacks against Infidels/ Kuffar are committed only by MUSLIMS
Every Muslim is therefore a hair trigger Time Bomb primed to go off
Only in the WARPED imagination of leftists can one find Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist Muslims because in reality Muslims are Muslims just as Nazis are Nazis and no one ever addressed Nazis as Moderate, Militant, Radical or Extremist
All other explanations are superfluous and redundant
It is time for every decent and patriotic person to unshackle yourselves from the pre conceived but erroneous notion that ANYONE who is not a Muslim can make PEACE with Islam.
All anyone in doubt has to do is READ only chapters 2 to 9 of Muhammad’s Quran and watch the repeated mass slaughter of unarmed innocent European and American civilians by Muslims proclaiming they are doing the butchery to PLEASE their demonic god Allah
As usual, all that Europeans get after every Islamic mass murder are platitudes, meaningless expressions of sympathy to the hapless victims by the very leaders who are unwilling to protect their citizenry because of abject denial of all Facts and Reality regarding the TRUTH
https://www.youtube.com/wat…
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
http://www.alrassooli.com
Santa Voorhees says
“one does not need more than two brain cells of logic to understand Muslims and Islam in a nutshell”
That is true indeed. Too bad that our leaders and leftists in general do not have even half of a brain cell and isn’t even functioning at all.
J_not_a says
Yes indeed. A “moderate” muslim is just a muslim who hasn’t blown himself up – YET!
mortimer says
Agree with IQ. The mandate comes from the SORCEROR Mohammed. Western elites are so NARCISSISTIC that they think everything is about THEM.
The NARRATIVE of Western Libtards is that the brown NOBLE SAVAGES are punishing THEM for sins committed hundreds of years ago and that they intend to SUFFER SOME MORE… (so they think) Western people have not suffered enough yet. They should probably cease to exist!
mike9a says
And this amoeba is host/reporter/journalist ? UnBelievable! Intelligence on the planet earth is constant number.
gravenimage says
Mike, MSNBC is the most Leftist of the big three cable news stations–and the most utterly in denial about the Jihad threat. Even CNN is overall saner then they are.
Paul says
CNN has been catching up recently, via their obsession with Donald Trump.
Santa Voorhees says
“As images of the police response to the terror attack played out on MSNBC, Lui asked guest Jim Cavanaugh if, in his experience, there could be an excessive amount of force used by law enforcement for such incidents”
There should be an excessive amount of force at this point.
utis says
After I stopped laughing at this teleprompter-reader’s comment, let me agree with you firstly, but then let me say the “force” will not come from the police, but from the mobs of potential victims venting their rage. Or is that all just a fantasy of me and of the gutless elites who peek under their bed each night looking for EDL soldiers?
Walter Sieruk says
Those jihadists /Islamic terror attacks in the city of London by the brutal vehicle jihad attack on London Bridge and then their going over and stabbing people at nearby Borough Market had the combined results of multiple casualties were heinously evil and cruel to the extreme . This, as strange as it may seem to some people is in accord to the instruction of the “holy book” of Islam the Quran , For example the Quran instructs in Surah 9:123. “O you who believe! Fight of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you…”
So those three malicious and vicious jihad-minded Muslims they violent actions were following the instruction of the Quran. Let’s face it, stabbing people with large long knifes’ and running them over with a van is a very effective way of showing disbeliever’s harshness.
Islam a “peaceful religion” ? BULL !
jihad3tracker says
Here are the fax numbers for America’s 2 Muslim members of the House of Representatives, Keith Ellison (612-522-9915) and Andre Carson (317-283-6567).
For those of us with home-based fax machines, maybe you can spare 5 minutes on this Sunday to send them a short message. It could say many things of course, with quotes from the Qur’an, or it could be quite brief — even a single sentence.
For me, that one remark would be “How deep is the sickness of a person who refuses to leave the death cult of Allah even after this latest slaughter in London?”
gravenimage says
Muslim thugs like these are not going to change–except, perhaps, in slinging even more Taqiyya. But perhaps some of the decent Infidels in Congress will wake up–try to educate *them*.
WPM says
You will be wasting time and paper faxing them anything better to get behind the people run against them when they are running for reelection giving the info to ask tough questions. Robert Spencer could post when these Islamics terms are up what areas they represent what good people could do so they will not be in any longer .. The United States unlike Britain and sadly most of Europe still has freedom of speech.
Pong says
They might refer you to catholics, who stay in church despite the policies of vatican.
Walter Sieruk says
This Islamic terror attack, in London, by three jihad-minded Muslims was, indeed, as evil and as it was awful. Those jihadist/Muslims who had murdered seven people had proven themselves to be very dangerous men. After they had committed the murders those jihadists were shot and killed by the British police. Islam’s “holy book” the Quran instructs in 9:111. “The believers fight in Allah’s cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.’’
This should tell all thoughtful people something about the actual essence of Islam.
Walter Sieruk says
The jihadist or jihadists attacks in Western nations be the Muslim terrorists in the city of London ,Manchester, Stockholm, Brussels , Paris, Nice, Berlin ,Madrid. Those jihad-minded Muslim terrorists who engage in those vicious Islamic terror attacks cannot be and will not be reasoned with. They will not respond to either logic or reason. They aren’t interested, at all, in reason or logic. So they have to be dealt with by a strong force of might. Either by the police or the military. For to even try to reason with a jihad-minded Muslim terrorist is just as much an act of futility as trying to teach algebra to a rabbit.
goldie says
Over ‘reaction!! Maybe, more over reaction is needed!! Somehow, measures need to be taken to stop these atrocities!! Whatever it takes!!! No quarter against these jihadists. This is now unlimited and unconditional warfare . Time to go for the jugular. It has to stop. So, so sorry for those victims.
Voytek Gagalka says
The only definite “overreaction” is the constant flood of such statements repeated endlessly to annoy our intelligence and reason. I only wish that there would be SUCH “overreaction” that the whole Islamic (and PC) world would MELT before it and long lasting peace be enforced right after it. But my hopes are futile, I know…
somehistory says
Your hopes are not “futile.”
Take a minute to read 2 Peter 3, the first 13 verses. They are short and to the point.
And they even say exactly some of the words, “melt” being one, that you used in your wishing.
Read it and feel better.
gravenimage says
Not futile at all, Voytek–more good people *are* waking up, and will act.
Pong says
Yes, they are futile. Just think how many people have died in jihad attacks. Those people had fathers, husbands, sons, brothers and friends and not once have been any backlash. In a normal situation moslems should have been in a position, when they would be scared to leave home and most of them would go back. People don’t only deserve things for their actions, but also for their inaction.
Aingel Strong says
Another gang of treacherous idiots ..
RichardL says
I must say that I find the term ‘host’ misplaced. The host is society and this person is a parasite. So I believe we should be calling them parasites not hosts from now on.
Kiki says
There was no ‘overreaction’ here. The police didn’t know for sure how many attackers there were or what was going on–not to mention the attackers were wearing fake suicide-bomb vests! The police had no way of knowing they were fake.
All they knew was that people were being murdered and they had to stop it.
I have nothing but respect and admiration for the British police and the way they took out the attackers. They did their jobs, and by responding with force, they probably saved more people from being killed.
Also, kudos to the civilians who tried to help the injured, the people who fought back against the stabbers and barricaded them from a bar. They saved lives, too.
gravenimage says
Agreed.
And I’m *glad* the police shot these Jihadists.
Shmooviyet says
Seconded.
Have to keep faith that there will always be these types of everyday heroes among crowds being threatened by soulless gargoyles who are ‘courageous’ enough to attack unarmed civilians.
The preference for ‘soft targets’ betrays their gutlessness.
John A. Marre says
The appropriate reaction would be the immediate expulsion of all Muslims.
gravenimage says
+1
somehistory says
He’s worrying about a “backlash” from the authorities. Always concern for the perps and their families. Not so much for the victims and their families.
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on, Somehistory.
Ashley says
Over reaction??? My God! How insensitive!
Seven dead. 21 critical. A dozen or so more injured. The police did an outstanding job riddling these terrorists with bullets.
Mr. Lui is off his rocker.
Jean Terry says
If you were the people being attacked I don’t think you would believe there could be an overreaction. Typical liberal baloney. Yes, the police were great from everything I have heard and read.
Terry says
I think that there will be an over-reaction. THE BRITISH (LIKE THE FRENCH AFTER THE NICE BEACH MASSACRES; THE GERMANS AFTER THE TRUCK RAMS THE XMAS MARKET; BRITISH AFTER THE RECENT MANCHESTER BOMBING; ETC) WILL JUST GO ON AS BEFORE, and import even more Muslims. You know, the majority; the peaceful kind.
That will be the over reaction. And, the great citizens of The City of London will re-elect theri Muslim mayor, so that they can get (even more) used to this.
gravenimage says
MSNBC host asks if there is risk of “overreaction” to London jihad murders
…………………..
*Just repulsive*. There have been two attacks right in the heart of London, and another in England’s second largest city just in the past few weeks, and this moron asks if Britain is “overreacting”–what madness.
D-spot says
It’s official – you cant fix stupid…..all the prayers, vigils, tea lights, teddy bears, political appeasement speeches will not stop this continuing assault on the populations of the world. If the government in the UK are no longer able to protect their people, how long will it be before the spirit of the Geordies and Tommies of the last war, have had enough and rise up to defend a once great nation? Fire with fire comes to mind, and no, advocating like responses is not my intent. But the British in India when confronted with the practice of Suti(?) the burning alive of widows on their dead husbands funeral pyres, put a stop to it – they had to do something to outlaw this barbaric cultural practice. It was stopped.
We are told there is no solution to the madness – true if Mrs.May continues to roll with the punches instead of taking some observable actions as in DO SOMETHING!! anything!! spend a night with the police, first responders and see the carnage first hand – carefully edited so the population doesn’t see and react. The lifes destroyed and the collateral damage to families – this is unforgiveable.
Marty says
Muslim terrorists are mentally deficient sociopaths. Is this related to the fact that they insists on marrying first or second cousins generation after generation?
Ace-of-Clubs says
If only there were no Muslims in Britain, or we could deport them all, eh ? Failing that, how about…
1. Secret services bug every single Mosque in the UK and try to infiltrate them. Hard to do I know because you would need special agents that could be passed off as Muslims.
2. Immediate deportation of all foreign Muslim terrorist supporters and imprisonment without parole of hate-preaching Imams.
3.Execution of any convicted Muslim terrorists.
4. Life imprisonment without parole for all those ISIS jihadis returning to the UK and they lose their UK citizenship.
5. All police officers to be armed at all times.
6. Immediate stop on Muslim immigration.
But sadly none of this will happen.
Martin says
CNN was worried for a moment that England might finally do something effective to counter the jihad. Can’t have that.
Damon Rosen says
BLC says
He’s just rationalizing like the Mayor of London wants us to believe that atrocities are the new normal and they’re just part of living in a big city. As soon as the words come out of their mouths, you know their ideas are wrong.
Now I think anyone who calls Islam a religion is just putting lipstick on a pig. None of it rings true. Mohammed was nothing but a savage and his followers are no better and never will be.
gravenimage says
Hassan Shibly is a shill for Jihad.
BLC says
He certainly looks like it in that video. Nothing he says sounds true.
DogOnPorch says
The progs believe there is a level of acceptable casualties associated with having the wonders of Islam in our collective midst.
“What’s a few dead??”
That’s their current defense of Islam.
Terry says
Dog—IF the FEW DEAD were ENTIRELY THE LIBERALS/PROGRESSIVES/ONE WORLDERS /GOVERNMENT ELITES, I WOULD ENTIRELY AGREE.
A few (or even more than a few) of these dead would be no loss. And if the Muslims died with them, a fain for the world- cumulative IQ, and less jackasses (with apologies to donkeys- they do perform a useful function, unlike the liberals/progressives, elites, etc)
le mouron rouge says
I’ll let others address this issue.
“When you can’t make them see the light, make them feel the heat.”
– Ronald Reagan (1911-2004)
As George Orwell (1903-1950) noted, “some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.”
“To argue with a person who has denounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
– Thomas Paine (1737-1809)
“Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter!”
– Isaiah 5:20 (ESV)
Georg says
If history is used to predict the future, there is a 0% chance of overreaction. May she sleep well.
Jack Holan says
MSNBC is both slime and traitorous. They are more suited to reporting with Al Jazeera from Qatar as a direct mouthpiece of the Emir of Qatar. How does it feel to support the Enemies of the Western nations at the expense of their lives foolishly and unwitting awaiting the day for the sword to slice your own head off since you mean nothing to them.
tgusa says
Over reaction? Like the authorities have done to the average western traveler going through airports? Having ruined air travel in the west they are now setting their sights on our walks about town. At this point there is no denying that leftists are islamic jihad collaborators. Keep a list for the future. Update it and back it up to several different locations.
Crimelord Canada says
Lovely opening analogy.
Still think you’re missing the boat with the false left/right narrative, the right, from a political perspective is as much as fault as the political left. There’s a reason this is happening and it isn’t because of some sort of naivety on the part of anyone.
Susan B says
The reason this is happening is the doctrine of islam. The right seems to be the only ones trying to fight this madness. Your statement makes no sense.
Smart guy says
In response to Crime Lord Canada. There’s a reason this is happening and it isn’t because of some sort of naivety on the part of anyone. What a load of rubbish! the world has had 1,400 years of Jihad. The attacks in Paris did not wake up Britain? You have forgot what happened in India between Moslems and Hindus?
Cheap labor is what Big business wants and it is the barbarians that have always destroyed the civilization.
The only thing that can maintain civilization is a civilized work force.
The Hyperborean says
Thank you for the reporting Robert and the rest. This is actual real information unlike anything on of the MSM networks
Richie says
The priority seems to be that we most not cause Muslims offense
Brian Riley says
Just imagine if this attack had happened in Warsaw or Budapest — every mosque and Muslim shop in the city would need the services of a glazier the following day. But jihad attacks do nt happen in these places for the simple reason that have wisely allowed hardly any Muslims to move there. East Europeans see Islam for what it is — the religion of war ( jihad) not peace.
Richard says
“MSNBC host asks if there is risk of “overreaction” to London jihad murders”
Of course. That is the greatest risk. The actual act of women having their throats slashed, lying on the ground, the dead and grievously injured pales into insignificance in comparison to the risk that some person, or politician even, may say something against Islam.
But fortunately, there is no danger of that. Islam has been stoutly defended in the mother of parliaments. Theresa May Calls London Terror Attack “Perversion of a Great Faith”
Red says
“MSNBC host asks if there is risk of “overreaction” to London jihad murders”
NO! there is indignation, disgust and righteous anger that politicians do NOTHING. Cringeworthy little coward pollies that are selling us all down the river by doing nothing….WHY pass laws to protect these mohammedans…. get all of them OUT
Gerald Mucci says
Wow. I wonder if Richard Lui hopes than no one “overreacts” if he is stabbed 10 times by a Muslim. “Oh, not to worry, please don’t overreact” I can hear him say as he hisses out blood dripping from his mouth from his stab wounds.
Carlos Danger says
8 minutes after the time of dispatch all three knifemen were approaching room temperature.
Nancy Lui, safe in his newsroom, can suck an egg.
Joe says
Nobody asks if it is a risk of underreaction. We need more overreaction!
A European says
Has T.May been drunk when she uttered this gibberish about Islam being a great faith that had been perverted by radicals? Has there been a jihadist behind her, pointing a gun to her temple, forcing her to sing the praises of Islam? Tell me, Mrs. May, what is great about Islam? Is it the ululation of the muezzin when he calls for prayer? Is it the hajj, the islamic pilgrimage to Mecca, when each year hundreds of Muslims are trampled to death while circling with fervor a black stone coming from outer space? Is it the month of Ramadan, when thousands of Muslims are to be hospilalized, because their gastrointestinal disorders due to insalubrious fasting require medical treatment? Or are you even impressed by the upsurge of jihad-motivated killings during Ramadan? Tell me!