“Haroun Bouazzi, co-president of the Association of Muslims and Arabs for a Secular Quebec, said..expecting the community to detect a lone wolf who buys a knife and travels to Michigan is asking a lot…’This person had an understanding of his faith that allowed him to kill people.’…Bouazzi said that instead of dwelling on the responsibility of Muslim leaders to prevent extremism, Couillard’s government should be tackling the exclusion of young Muslims that can lead to radicalization. ‘If somebody has to take responsibility for prevention, it’s the government,’ he said.”
Bouazzi does not explain how Ftouhi got “an understanding of his faith that allowed him to kill people.” Was it in a mosque in Quebec? Nor did he explain why the government has the responsibility to do something about this, but the Muslim community doesn’t. How can the Quebec government, a non-Muslim entity, change Muslims’ understanding of their faith?
Note that his declaration that “Couillard’s government should be tackling the exclusion of young Muslims that can lead to radicalization” is based on the assumption that has been discredited in numerous studies, that poverty and lack of opportunity leads to terrorism. It is essentially a veiled attempt at extortion, an attempt to compel the Quebec government to shower millions of dollars on the Muslim community, in the vain hope that it will eradicated jihad terrorism by doing so.
Couillard is to be commended for speaking an obvious truth that few dare to enunciate. Let’s hope he stands his ground.
“After Michigan attack, Quebec Premier calls on Muslim community to play role in preventing terrorism,” by Graeme Hamilton, National Post, June 22, 2017 (thanks to Michael):
MONTREAL – When Islamist terrorists strike in the West, it has become standard for political leaders to stress that the actions of a few should not tarnish an entire community. On Thursday, Quebec Premier Philippe Couillard chose a different approach.
Responding to the arrest of Amor Ftouhi of Montreal after a terror assault in Michigan, Couillard said the province’s Muslim community needs to do more to prevent terrorism.
“Unfortunately, you cannot disconnect this type of event – terrorism – from Islam in general,” Couillard said in Quebec City when asked if he was worried the attack would fuel anti-Muslim sentiment. He said he shares the position French President Emmanuel Macron expressed this week in a speech to Muslim community leaders.
“He told them, it’s also your responsibility to act on the theological front, to explain to your people that this (terrorism) is not part of the religion, that it is contrary to the teachings of the religion. There is a dual responsibility,” Couillard said….
Couillard said his government is “completely against” intolerance and discrimination, but there are fears among Quebec Muslims that the latest attack and the premier’s reaction will feed a backlash.
“With remarks like this, saying Islam cannot be disconnected from terrorism, Mr. Couillard is pouring oil on the fire,” said Eve Torres, co-ordinator of a group that works to integrate Muslim women into Quebec society. “He is premier, and not only is he saying Islam and terrorism are inseparable, he says the responsibility for terrorism falls also on the Muslim community. It endangers communities that are already stigmatized.”
Haroun Bouazzi, co-president of the Association of Muslims and Arabs for a Secular Quebec, said community members have for years been working to combat radicalization. When young Quebecers seeking to join the jihad are arrested, it is usually an imam or family member who has tipped off police, he said.
But expecting the community to detect a lone wolf who buys a knife and travels to Michigan is asking a lot, he said.
“This person had an understanding of his faith that allowed him to kill people. That is obviously the reality, and we cannot bring back the words of ‘Allahu akbar’ inside his mouth. He actually yelled that,” Bouazzi said.
“But to link this fact and the responsibility of Muslim communities to play a special role more than any normal citizen is actually stigmatizing.”
Couillard was inspired by a speech Macron gave before the French Council of the Muslim Faith Tuesday night at a meal to break the Ramadan fast.
“It is up to you, religious leaders, to fight toe to toe on theological and religious terrain, to expose the usurping of your values, the appropriation of your religion’s history, the negation of 15 centuries of interpretation work done by your scholars,” Macron said. He added, “The battle of thought and faith must be fought on the ground, especially among the younger generations.”
Last week, Statistics Canada published data showing a sharp increase in hate crimes against Muslims in Quebec — even before taking into account the January attack on a Quebec City mosque that killed six. Bouazzi and Torres were among a group of Muslim activists who called on the government to deliver promised programs to combat racism.
Bouazzi said that instead of dwelling on the responsibility of Muslim leaders to prevent extremism, Couillard’s government should be tackling the exclusion of young Muslims that can lead to radicalization. “If somebody has to take responsibility for prevention, it’s the government,” he said.
concerned canadian says
F THAT !!
Its not the victims responsibility to make sure these idiots aren’t nutjobs.
ISLAM is bad. WE ALL KNOW IT.
Kudos to someone saying it out loud.
Justine Trudeau will be very upset indeed !
TheBuffster says
Concerned Canadian, He didn’t exactly say hat Islam is bad. He said that you can’t disconnect terrorism from Islam, but he could mean by that that clearly the people doing the terrorism consider themselves to be doing it for Islam. That doesn’t mean Couillard knows that the violence against the unbeliever is inherent in the religion. Note this:
“He told them, it’s also your responsibility to act on the theological front, to explain to your people that this (terrorism) is not part of the religion, that it is contrary to the teachings of the religion. There is a dual responsibility,” Couillard said….
notmoron says
He just lost leftards vote
Tom says
It’s beyond time that a prominent politician told the truth about Islam, and held the Muslim leadership’s feet to the fire over their role in a lack of preventing radicalization.
Let’s see if Trudeau blows a gasket and threatens Quebec with revenue cuts.
One of the most outspoken Muslims in the world put it very succinctly:
“Assimilation is a crime against humanity. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam, Islam is Islam. The mosques are our barracks, The minorets are our bayonets, The cupolas our helmets, and the faithful our soldiers.” Tayyip Erdogan, President of Turkey.
Nigel GFF says
“…government should be tackling the exclusion of young Muslims that can lead to radicalization…”
Yep, Mr Erdogan knows so well, and mentioned by Mr Spencer on many occasions, ‘exclusion’ is exactly what Islamic terrorists want. They, the murderers, reject Western society, and don’t wish to be included in any system not under the Sharia jack boot. Their textual imperative knowingly and wilfully drives them to a new world order. The radicalisation is not born out of a desire to establish a Marxist Utopia wherein we all have shekel equality and are free to realize our aspirations and those of our children..blah blah. No, they wish to tear down our inclusivity, shred it and combine us all into the ummah. In a word it’s rejection not exclusion you S.O…
underbed cat says
Great excuse for Islam….it is not the doctrine taught at the mosque that “radicalizes” muslims (written in the Quran) to follow the example of the prophet to “slay the infidel ” or “smite them in the neck”, or “slice off finger tips”, it’s the fact that they want to assimilate and the country does not allow it. A complete fib. He knows it, but he is professional and trusted, and the audience is clueless and he may be a sharia compliant muslim that is practicing the other part of Islam doctrine to practice deception to allow Islam to be practiced. Kind of omitting some important part of the goal to strike fear into the heart of the infidel and also blend in with them to deceive so to prevent information how the doctrine is really a command that some muslims follow along with terror groups such as isis, daesh, al queda boko harem……
The only responsibility of the government safe guard the citizens and western form of government, is understand the doctrine, read the quran and redefine the doctrine as law taught in mosques and ban it since changing a 1400 years old doctrine is forbidden Islam.
John W. says
Imams Macron of France and Couillard of Quebec are clearly Islamic scholars and know that terrorism is not part of the religion nor is any form of violence of course:
“He said he shares the position French President Emmanuel Macron expressed this week in a speech to Muslim community leaders.
“He told them, it’s also your responsibility to act on the theological front, to explain to your people that this (terrorism) is not part of the religion, that it is contrary to the teachings of the religion.”
Annie says
Don’t worry, Mr. Couillard knows exactly what Islam is all about. He lived in Saudi Arabia for a few years. The problem is that even if he knows, he won’t say anything right or do anything right about it. He is exactly like the other one (J. Trudeau), living in Fantasy Land and hiding the truth…hoping the problems will go away by themselves.
underbed cat says
They are protecting islam from being identified, no one can read the Quran without reading sura’s that call for muslims to either convert or slay infidels.
Norger says
These kind of comments highlight the problem of politicians trying to interject themselves into a theological debate. At a minimum, the “terrorists” have a totally plausible interpretation of the Islamic faith. The reality is that the “extremists” have the weight of scripture and centuries of scholarly interpretation on their side. Islam simply needs to be treated, from all perspectives, particularly from the political and law enforcement standpoint, as a dangerous ideology, in the same category as Nazism.
Berengaria says
I wish Monseiur Coullard would explain ISLAM to Some on FOXNEWS. Anti-Terrorism MARCH & FOX sent out a reporter to ask if they were anti-TERRORISM OR anti-MUSLIM! The Spokesperson invariably said, “We’re Against Terror, NOT MUSLIMS”.
This Guy at FOX was trying to SNIFF OUT ISLAMOPHOBIA, but I wish that some of the Marchers would have mentioned, that ISLAM OKs TERROR, PERPETRATED BY MUSLIMS!
Noel Hershfield says
The jstrategy is this.Send future jihadists to a Wesrern country,after useless vetting.SendvMuslim students to our universities ,financed by the Brotherhood,to destroy the culture of the Universities using the Jews as the canary in the mine,byndemonize Isreal and our democratic ideology.Then this gives an impetus to so called lone wolfs to attack,whilst the general Mudlim sits by And claims no responsibility when asked to even attempt to really assimilate and contribute to the continue to build our ionltitutions of democracy.The say it is the governments job to educate young Muslims .This attitude is destroying Sweden,France,Holland andGermany,and others.If our government does not realize we are next,we are doomed!
RAB says
More double talk. Until the direct connection between Islam and Islamic violence and terrorism is finally publicly acknowledged this is all taqiyya, lies and deception in the cause of Allah, the Arabian moon god. I’m still waiting for someone besides Robert Spencer and a few others still courageous enough to speak the truth to state openly that the Koran directly mandates that devout Muslims must subjugate or kill non-believers until the will of Allah (Sharia) reigns supreme over the entire world. All the rest is mere verbiage intended to deceive the ignorant public who have bought into the lie that Islam is a religion of peace. I don’t think I’ll hold my breath waiting for the whole truth about Islam to emerge and put a end to this death cult once and for all.
Michael Copeland says
“The Koran directly commands us to commit terrorism….”
Ragab Hill Hamida MP
in the Egyptian Parliament.
Michael Copeland says
“…communities that are already stigmatized”, laments Eve Torres of the group trying to integrate muslim women.
This group is self-stigmatised, continually.
El Cid says
I see words from Macron and Coulliard very similar to the words of Trump in Saudi Arabia. Trump is leading the way.
It is self evident that the Muslim community must police their own ideology. We cannot co-exist in a ‘tolerant’ society with those that reject tolerance.
As a Jew, I am very sensitive to this point. I have expectations since no one in the West except Jews want to know about or call out Islamic Antisemitism. In this regard, the institutionalized hate taught by Muslims is mainstream.
El Cid says
correrection: I mean “I have NO expectations
somehistory says
Perhaps no one in *authority* except the Jews in authority, care. But there are many, many *regular* people who care. Several non-Jewish people post here regularly with concerns about the hatred of Jews expressed by moslums.
Maybe that doesn’t matter much because regular people don’t have the power to do anything.
As for me personally, I know that our Creator knows and does have the Power. He also knows about the moslum hatred of Christians and everyone else, perhaps to a lesser degree.
Albert says
There is a problem with Eve Torres’ reasoning above. To say that the community is not responsible for the actions of the individual is true on one level (the individual chose to do that of his own free will), but is also false on another level, because studies of religious violence have revealed the fact that terrorists do not act entirely on their own, but are encouraged by the communities they come from, who give either covert or overt sanction to religious violence. So the religious community he came from did not do enough to condemn or discourage violence, obviously, and he felt as though by committing that act that he was defending the umma. That is the problem. Moderate Muslims are not doing enough to condemn this and distance themselves from religious violence. They need to do more and they do bear some responsibility for it, as does the perpetrator himself.
detolerable says
Hey, just because their core doctrines in written rules call for murder and their imans incite violence is no cause to be concerned…right?
not.
Lawrence says
This French Premier, along with Macron, does not go far enough. In fact their talk is just more gobbledegook. Macron’s speech is woeful dhimmitude. It pretends Islam is a RoP and is being misinterpreted and twisted by the jihadists.
Anti-jihad says
Couillard is right. Terrorism can’t be separated from Islam and if it isn’t the responsibility of the Muslim communities to stop radicalization, then whose repsonsibility is it? You can’t help but notice the lack of Muslim condemnation evident after every Islamic terrorist attack, as though it has nothing to do with the Muslim communities, but they want every white person to feel guilty over real or imagined slights to Muslims even going centuries back in time.
somehistory says
“responsibility of Muslim communities to play a special role more than any normal citizen ” the moslum said.
That’s because “normal” citizens aren’t a part of it…”normal” people don’t go inside the barracks and *teach* the moslums….the moslums are taught islum and its evil by other moslums.
Normal people wouldn’t be allowed to *teach* anything in a barracks, much less that they shouldn’t be killing innocent people and defining just who are *innocent.*
“If somebody has to take responsibility for prevention, it’s the government,” the moslum said.
If the government prevents it, the government will have to prevent islum from being there, being taught, being observed…prevent the evil from having a place.
He doesn’t really want that…he wants protection for the future murderers and the families of the murderers and to be praised as “special.”
mortimer says
MESSAGE A M. COUILLARD: LE DJIHAD FAIT BIEN PARTIE DE L’ISLAM NORMATIF
The following commentary is as close to an “official” definition of jihad as we can get. It is contained in the footnotes on p.39, ‘The Noble Koran’, published by King Fahd Complex for Publication of the Quran, Madinah, KSA.
“Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.”
Michael Carpenter says
Mohammad terrorized the Arab world while he was establishing his belief in Allah, the god of Islam. Mohammad left these directives for his followers to continue to do to accomplish the goals and directives that he established, which are laid out in the Qur’an and Haddiths. These directives comprise the Sunnah of Mohammad for all Muslim’s to follow to appease the political god of Islam, Allah.
Qur’an 9:5 So when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolater, wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free. Surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.
Qur’an 9:29 Make war on those who have received the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) but do not believe in Allah or the Last Day. They do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden. The Christians and Jews do not follow the religion of truth until they submit and pay the poll tax (jizya), and they are humiliated.
Qur’an 9:123 O you who believe, fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you and let them find firmness in you. And know that Allah is with those who keep their duty.
Hadith Sahih Muslim M001,0031 Mohammad: “I have been ordered to wage war against mankind until they accept that there is no god but Allah and that they believe I am his prophet and accept all revelations spoken through me.
Hadith Sahih Muslim M020,4696 Mohammad: “The man who dies without participating in jihad, who never desired to wage holy war, dies the death of a hypocrite.”
Hadith Sahih Bukhari B1,3,125 A man asked Mohammed, “Mohammad, what manner of fighting can be considered done for the sake of Allah? Some fight because they are angry and some for their pride.” Mohammad looked up at the man said, “The man who fights to make Islam dominant is the man who fights for Allah’s cause.”
Tara says
He’s absolutely right. Islam is a religion which endorses and encourages violence and asks for the decimation of all those who don’t follow Allah.
How many Muslims protest the dastardly Islamist terrorist attacks against the “infidels” across the world? Hardly any! And they never will. Because, at root, they sympathize with their brethren, against the non-believers, never mind how rabidly violent and bloodthirsty their brethren are! The west needs to understand this. Maybe the narrative will change a smidgen after that.
#ReligionOfBloodbaths
Tom says
“One of the solutions is to have less Islam in our societies” This guy Is an ex muslim.
But how can we have less Islam yet have muslims? It doesn’t make sense as they come as a package and Islam controls every part of a muslims life, without which they could not be muslims. Catch 22 ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUd6KdYXhww
Manny says
Coulliard’s step was a positive one but it didn’t go far enough. He’s still under the delusion that terrorism is in contradiction to Islam. From what he’s implying it’s a communication problem, not a religious problem.
As to the Muslims, if they don’t like the stigma then go back to the hell hole from which they came. Or convert.
Danny says
Islamic terrorism is jihad. And jihad is a founding Islamic concept.
Imperialism? Muslims, too, have been imperialists, destroying “thousands of churches, synagogues, and temples in a most brutal fashion” and exterminating “WHOLE civilizations such as the Pre-Islamic cultures of Iran (Zoroastrians) and the Assyrians.” Saudi Arabia, homeland of fifteen of the nineteen 9/11 hijackers, “was never colonized by the West” but is part of an Islamic empire.
Jihad in the KORAN and HADITH, and in key texts ever since, it ALWAYS refers, above all, to the sacred obligation to ADVANCE Islam by means of ARMED action AGAINST unbelievers.
The history of jihad, beginning with Muhammed’s own conquests, then moving on to ninth- through eleventh-century Baghdad, seventeenth-century Constantinople, eighteenth-century Saudi Arabia, and so on, right up to today’s Muslim Brotherhood. Throughout its existence, the Brotherhood has preached Holy War, period.
“The Quranic military strategy enjoins us to prepare ourselves for WAR in order to strike terror into the hearts of the enemies. The Koran gives us a distinctive concept of TOTAL WAR. It wants both the nation and the individual to be at WAR ‘in TOTO,’ that is, with all their SPIRITUAL moral and PHYSICAL resources.”
“Jihad is essential for the SPREAD of Islam, and it is a duty incumbent on ALL Muslims until Islam COVERS the whole SURFACE of the EARTH.”
Robert says
From the original article:
“Bouazzi said that instead of dwelling on the responsibility of Muslim leaders to prevent extremism, Couillard’s government should be tackling the exclusion of young Muslims that can lead to radicalization. “If somebody has to take responsibility for prevention, it’s the government,” he said.”
Religious leaders within the Islamic Regime need to stop acting cute and coy about their religion and its adherents, and start acting like responsible adults.
Anyone familiar with the basic teachings of Islam (based on a knowledge of the trilogy of the Quran, the Hadith, and the Sira), knows that violence is a main feature of true Islam. Violence dominates key portions of their trilogy. Following the rule of interpretation common to Islam, the more recent (violent) parts of the Quran overrides the older (peaceful) ones.
We don’t need ‘experts’ telling us we have misunderstood the true spirit of Islam to figure things out; we can see what the trilogy says for ourselves.
That’s the beauty of a proper, formal education; everyone can read and study on their own; we do not need to depend on an educated group of elites, in this case, Islamic clerics. We can read the Quran, Hadith, and Sira ourselves — and draw conclusions based on what the texts actually say, using the rules of interpretation and our reasonable minds to guide us. It worked during the Reformation; it can work now.
During the Reformation, Roman Catholic clerics tried to tell people what the Bible taught. But the Protestants (those who were protesting the Church of Rome’s hegemonic rule), taught people how to read and study Scripture for themselves. The result was a theological and, therefore, social revolution.
We need to make sure that ordinary adherents to the Islamic Regime are properly educated, so they can read and study the Quran, Hadith, and Sira for themselves. Once they read and study the trilogy, they can decide on their own what they think it’s saying — independent of the Islamic clerics.
Education can be a tool of tremendous reform, if done well.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Quebec premier is a madman like devil trump and they look alike baboons.
Matthieu Baudin says
Dear Ibrahim Muhammed, if some of your coreligionists could get along with each other as successfully as a tribe of Baboons then we’d be able to ‘live and let live’.
Matthieu Baudin says
The Premier still isn’t getting to the nub of the issue though his heart seems to be in the right place. There’s no getting away from the necessity for those traditional Muslims who oppose Jihad violence and intimidation, to turn their backs on many Koranic passages and to disown them in perpetuity denying any divine sanction whatsoever. Anything less is pussyfooting around in the present leaving violent Jihad the opportunity to smoulder and flame up again into the future. Apostates from Islam are well aware of this reality and we should be following their lead in our approach to attaining victory against the International Islamic Jihad Terror.
UNCLE VLADDI says
That is NOT what Quebec Premier Couillard (French for COWARD) really said!!!!
From here:
http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/after-michigan-attack-quebec-premier-calls-on-muslim-community-to-play-role-in-preventing-terrorism/
He said he shares the position French President Emmanuel Macron expressed this week in a speech to Muslim community leaders.
“He told them, it’s also your responsibility to act on the theological front, to explain to your people that this (terrorism) is not part of the religion, that it is contrary to the teachings of the religion. There is a dual responsibility,” Couillard said.
Couillard was inspired by a speech Macron gave before the French Council of the Muslim Faith Tuesday night at a meal to break the Ramadan fast.
“It is up to you, religious leaders, to fight toe to toe on theological and religious terrain, to expose the usurping of your values, the appropriation of your religion’s history, the negation of 15 centuries of interpretation work done by your scholars,” Macron said. He added, “The battle of thought and faith must be fought on the ground, especially among the younger generations.”
(Muslim leaders then) said that instead of dwelling on the responsibility of Muslim leaders to prevent extremism, Couillard’s government should be tackling the exclusion of young Muslims that can lead to radicalization. “If somebody has to take responsibility for prevention, it’s the government.”
Dajjal says
Yeah, Unk, he contradicted himself, but if the quotes are accurate, and the quotes above match those at the N.P., then that is what he said.
Unlike Wild Bill, I am never going near the Canuckistan border, so, they can’t get me and I am safe. So I will write what I am thinking, without the profanity & obscenity. The P.M. appears to be an addle brained Froggie and a LibTard. Confusion and LibTardation are a bad mix!
He said Isdamn & terrorism can’t be separated, which is as true a statement as any politician will make. I doubt it will be excelled.
Then he told the Imams to clean up their act, to quit preaching Jihad and tell their congregants to cool it. That is the functional equivalent of Chump telling the Kings & Emirs to chase themselves outta the mosque, outta their countries and off the planet. A negative IQ would be needed to excel that level of stupidity.
Reliance o8.7 lists 20 acts & attitudes entailing apostasy; meriting the death penalty. They include dissing Moe, Allah, the Koran, Isdamn & sharia. Jihad & terror are part of the Koran, Allah’s imperatives, Moe’s works & sharia. They’d be dead in this world and damned in the next.
Getting down to cases:
Isdamn is not a religion! It is an Arab Mafia with a false religious front.
Terrorism is one of the core teachings of Isdamn
sanctified: 3.151
promised: 8.12
delivered:
33.26-27
59.2
59.13
rewarded: 9.120
commanded:
8.57
8.60
Confirmed:
Sahih Bukhari
1.7.331
4.52.220
The Quranic Concept Of War
pg. 59
“the condition we wish to impose”, both ends and means
Exemplified:
Ishaq:
murder of Kab Ashraf
Murder of Asma bint Marwan
Mariful Qur’an 59.2
burning date palm plantation at Khaibar
Codified: list of sunnah acts: “The Book Of Jihad”
any tactic to terrify the enemy
Affirming the Moron’s deception contradicts the accurate statement of fact in the initial quote.
The lying French Toadies are stupid & ignorant, projecting their negative qualities onto the audience.
peter says
Another name for Islam is evil and the whole world is getting to know it mainly because of people like Robert Spencer, Ali Sina ,David Wood among others . Mullahs and crooked politicians who are ready to sell their mothers to get elected cannot face it because they cannot easily fool the public as they use to . .That was evident in recent elections in the world including here in USA .The arrogant and stupid left wing media including NBC,MSNBC,CNN and CBC cannot stomach it either. A revolution has begun and it is on each and every one of us to carry the torch forward. God bless America and God bless world !
UNCLE VLADDI says
The qualifying paragraphs change the meaning to:
“The MISUNDERSTANDING and CORRUPTION of ISLAM and TERRORISM cannot be separated!”
CAPISCE?!
😉