They were arrested “on suspicion of racial hatred.” Is it “racial hatred” to burn a Bible in the UK? Why, of course not. And in reality, as opposed to the British legal system, is it “racial hatred” to burn a Qur’an? No. The Qur’an is not a race, and neither is Islam; there are Muslims of all races. This arrest is just another example of the British government’s exaggerated solicitude for Muslims, which stems from the false assumption that jihad violence is the result of the “marginalization” of Muslim communities. The May government has staked the future of Britain on the idea that being nice to Muslims, and moving swiftly and strongly against violations of Sharia blasphemy laws such as this, will end the jihad against Britain.
It will, of course, fail, as will May’s drastically weakened new government, and the entire British political class. The Sharia supremacism they have not only tolerated but encouraged will turn its full force upon its benefactors, and Britain will be awash in blood.
“Two arrested over Facebook and YouTube video of Koran burning amid spate of race attacks in wake of London and Manchester terror attacks,” by Nick Enoch and Rachael Burford, Mailonline, June 8, 2017:
Police have arrested two people on suspicion of racial hatred after a video appeared online showing a man burning a copy of the Koran.
The video, which MailOnline has chosen not to publish, shows a tattooed man standing in a kitchen complaining about being unable to start a fire.
Speaking into the camera, he says: ‘I’ve been trying to get my poxy fire started for half-hour wondering what s**t I can get it going with.’
Holding a paperback copy of the Koran up to the camera, he adds: ‘And then I found this.’
Two videos were posted on Facebook and YouTube on Tuesday and are still available today on various pages.
The second shows the man standing outside tearing pages from the holy book and throwing them on a bonfire.
He says to the camera: ‘And it worked, all I’ve got left is the poxy, sh***y cover and look, that’s on the fire as well.’
West Mercia Police have confirmed they have arrested two people in connection with the video.
Detectives said a 45-year-old man from Worcestershire was arrested on suspicion of posting videos or images likely to cause racial hatred and a 45-year-old woman from Evesham has also been arrested on suspicion of inciting racial hatred.
Superintendent Kevin Purcell said: ‘This was a concerning incident and we will be carrying out a thorough investigation. It is being investigated as a hate crime.
‘We have been in contact with our local Muslim community via Councillor Jabba Riaz, deputy Mayor for Worcester who, as always, acts as a critical friend in support of what we do.
‘If anyone has any concerns about social media posts that potentially incite hate, I would urge them not to share the posts but to report the incident to the police and social media company at the earliest opportunity.’…
steve K says
Strange how that works, since in the US burning an american flag has been deemed protected speech. I would bet that most leftists fully support flag burning as speech but not koran burning.
Lets not forget, the Jihadis on their own cant do much. Without the left helping them they couldn’t get almost anything done.
nate hunter says
Here’s a question. If burning a book is a hate crime and you may go to jail, why not just bypass the book, go directly to the moozy, and burn HIM instead of the silly book !?
David M says
What a bunch of crap. Anybody still think there is free speech in Britain? No wonder Theresa May just got her ass handed to her in the election.
Are the police going to try to prove Islam is a race in the trial? Islam is not a race, that should be the number one defence of these two unfortunates that got arrested.
john spielman says
yup burning an infidel would be OK in sharia May’s UK but not burning your own koran!
Bindon Blood says
No of course there isn’t ,we have prescribed speech now. Burning a book any book cannot be illegal. Burning a book of a religion can only be illegal if blasphemy laws are enacted and on the statute books. There are no blasphemy laws on the statute books in England. Burning a book cannot be “racist” because no book can logically have any content that to destroy would indicate racial hatred,it might just be boring and burning it is a good way of disposing of it. Burning a Koran ,or a bible ,cannot be racist because neither book is concerned with any particular race,it is just a Collection of printed paper. Whether or not the contents have any sacred meaning is purely subjective. A Jedi knight,which I believe is a form of religion,could on the logic of the police, complain about my burning of a Star Trek book.
It is not illegal to burn any of ones own property un less it is likely to endanger life such as owning a ground floor flat and setting it alight knowing there are people living above.
The state would probably like to resurrect blasphemy law but cannot do so without it including blasphemy against Christianity. They do not want to do this. So the police,probably acting solely on local policy, strain the race laws in order to intimidate people.
Burning a book ,on private property ,cannot possibly stir up religious hatred because it is just a book,paper,and has no real significance other than on a subjective level.In no way can hatred or encouragement of hatred be assumed by burning a book one has no further use for. The burner cannot be held responsible for the frame of mind of the watcher.
This is undoubtedly unlawful arrest,undemocratic and oppressive. The people arrested should sue the chief Constables involved. It is a gross abuse of authority and should have no place in a democracy. The police are,arbitrarily,writing and enforcing a blasphemy law that in no other way exists in Britain.
dumbledoresarmy says
Good post.
However, you did make one error – “…A Jedi knight,which I believe is a form of religion,could on the logic of the police, complain about my burning of a Star Trek book…”.
Not ‘Star Trek’. Jedi Knights are in **Star Wars**, which is a different franchise. Blasphemy!!!!! / sarc off/
Ironically enough, though, since you referred to Jedi Knights and thus by implication to the Star Wars (not Star Trek) space opera, did you notice the name of the local Mohammedan who seems to have the local Infidel police at his beck and call? – “We have been in contact with our local Muslim community via Councillor Jabba Riaz, deputy Mayor for Worcester who, as always, acts as a critical friend in support of what we do.”
Jabba? He’s really called Jabba? I’m afraid I just cannot help thinking of the slimy Jabba the Hutt…
Rufolino says
Excellent exposition, Bindon, but that isn’t the point.
The point is that in Britain appeasement of Moslems is the policy -in the hope this will discourage them from turning against the host-nation.
But they already are turning against the host nation with terrorism, and when they constitute 51% of the population Britain will end.
Keys says
Right.
British leaders just do not get that appeasement does not work. But this time, unlike in Chamberlin’s time, they are appeasing internal enemies. There will be no forces coming to England to prepare for D-Day to save Britain’s neck.
Britain needs another enlightened Churchill.
“When I warned them that Britain would fight on alone whatever they did, their generals told their Prime Minister and his divided Cabinet, ‘In three weeks England will have her neck wrung like a chicken.’ Some chicken! Some neck!” — Winston Churchill, Ottawa, Dec. 30, 1941
gravenimage says
Good post, Bindon Blood. If only British authorities had so much common sense.
I also caught the Star Wars/Star Trek error, but it is a minor one and quite common.
marina says
Good work by these two. Toilet papers need burning. Hope this will be a trend and we will have an official “burn a Koran day”
Milo says
In the burning of the Quran, one is destroying vital evidence that proves that Islam is an ideology of hate not a religion, of course, getting the left to actually read the damned thing is another story. The members of the leftist movement would rather adapt to the propaganda of taqiyya put forth by Islamists than actually research the subject itself.
Burning evidence is just plane stupid.
Ciudadano says
Actually, it’s a well kept secret that the left has read the book and they liked what they read.
gravenimage says
There are plenty of Qur’ans around. It’s not as though people can’t read about the violence of Islam.
Jim Conch says
Maybe the British government just feels sorry for the muslims because they are inbred.
pnr says
Never waste Precious Shakti over feeling ‘sorry’ for degenerate scum.
Source: Instinct, intuition, plus, lived life experience.
Do whatever it takes to extirpate jihadist scum from Earth forever.
pnr
Santa Voorhees says
Is this the “radical extremism” Sharia May vowed to fight? If so, God help us all!
Yokel says
Yes, it is.
Together with those who read and understand and try to follow the Jewish & Christian Bible. Any comments from government saying how Christians & Jews have every right to practice their religion are but propaganda to get them to show themselves for identification and Special Treatment later.
ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer, you truly represent the mindset of mad Christian bigots .you mean UK is becoming sharia state simply some rascals were arrested for burning your enemy the Quran?whether you hate the Quran or want it banned from christian west,people consider it more reasonable and rational than your evil bible (the book of genocide and pornography)inspired by the satan who appears to filthy christians like dove they call holy spirit.Mr spencer,you can start shaking your head like idol worshipers in India to start seeing creatures with eyes inside eyes to prove that holy ghost has descended on you and then lead filthy christians in the United states to go on rampage burning million copies of the Quran like what you coreligionist Hindu barbarians burn mosques in India after experiencing such mental delusions.
Boston Tea Party says
In many ways, Muslims like ibrahim above are much more rational than modern Western multiculturalists.
He understands that Muslims and Christians believe very different things, have very different religions, and that both can’t be true, since they contradict each other on so many central points. And he prefers his own religion over Christianity. I’m on the opposite side and I think he’s mistaken, but at least his position is logical, as far as that goes.
The modern Western multiculturalist, though, is just engaging in cognitive dissonance to escape from reality. They’re in denial of centuries of history, and they refuse to believe that Islam and Christianity are significantly different, and that one might be better than another. They’ve just invested everything in a nonsensical, anti-intellectual fantasy version of reality where nothing means anything except what they “feel” it means..
Hector Archytas says
You Mohamedan came from another planet !!!! You understand nobody and nobody understand you.
I have got no issue to understand Christian, deist, Buddhist, Jews and even atheist.
gravenimage says
Boston Tea Party–with all respect–there are many people who have different religious beliefs, yet are able to peacefully coexist. It is not as though Christians, Jews, Hinds, or Buddhists are slaughtering people with differing beliefs–Muslims are, though.
Boston Tea Party says
Oh, I completely agree, gravenimage–and didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I just meant that when the teachings of one group directly lead to violent conflict, it doesn’t make any sense whatsoever to pretend that “everyone really believes the same thing.”
gravenimage says
Ah! Absolutely, Boston Tea Party.
And apologies for my typo above–that should have been “Hindus”.
Wontsayforfearofarrest says
I’m sorry but this is typical of Muslims , you can’t see that people are reacting to the violence , it’s called self defence. Show me the hindu’s and Christians in Britain blowing up and raping Muslim children , it’s not happening is it? It is within Islam, if Muslims don’t want to be blamed for these atrocities then stop committing them.
I myself was falsely accused of a hate crime, a taxi driver made up a pack of lies because my wife and I were having a conversation about Islam due to the fact I had stopped a Muslim from sexually harassing a lady where I live. We were critical of Mohamed and Islam as is my right in a free world , so I thought, yet we were arrested for having a different and well educated opinion, yet the taxi driver who lied and wasted police time had no concequence to his lies.
gravenimage says
I’m so sorry this happened to you. What did the lying Muslim claim occurred?
Wontsayforfearofarrest says
He alleged that I threatened to shoot him. What he didn’t know is my wife and I are both accountants and have never committed a crime. I used to be a partner in a criminal law firm so took an ex colleague and friend with me. He said after I threaten him I gave him £20 and he gave me £5 change, the journey I get all the time is £13.40, so I gave him a £1.60 tip after I threatened his life did I ? Also, taxis have Cctv in them , when I asked the police for video evidence they told me he turned it off. He also reported me 5 days after the alleged crime. Maybe his imam gave him the advice. He was also from the Sudan where the rape stats are something like 1 in 4 men have committed rape. It got dropped anyway.
gravenimage says
Awful–I’m sure this happened because you were saying you stopped a Muslim from sexually harassing an Infidel victim.
I’ve had some bad experiences with Muslim cab drivers myself–including not wanting to transport a cat in a secure carrier, which has happened several times–and, worst of all, one who started grilling me in a threatening manner about whether the man I was with was my husband.
Ironically, the man in question was a friend I had just run into at an appearance by Anti-Jihadist Nonie Darwish in Berkeley, where we decided to share a cab back. He is also gay–its hard to know whether this would have made the Muslim more or less enraged. On the one hand, this would mean I was less likely to be deemed an “adulterer” for chatting with him; on the other hand, the Mohammedan would want to throw my friend off a roof.
I reported the incident to the cab company, but the dispatcher had an accent identical to the driver and so was probably a Muslim as well, so I doubt anyone there cared.
This happened again with another Muslim cabbie when I was out with my husband. The driver’s attitude went from hostile to obsequious when he found out we were married. He also addressed everything to my husband–it was as if I were not there at all, except as a woman who had potentially committed “Zina”.
Needless to say, this is all grotesquely inappropriate, and very disturbing.
Hector Archytas says
bible got nice tale for my kids. I won’t read them the Koran.
pnr says
Hindus are born of clean womb.
Go screw yourself.
pnr
Wontsayforfearofarrest says
Hindus , sheikhs , Jews, Buddhists and any other religion live in harmony with British values, Islam is the exception. I myself am an atheist but will defend the rights of the above mentioned to practice their beliefs here and to be left in peace but I peacefully object to Islam and try and educate as many people as I can to its ideology.
gravenimage says
Appalling apologist for Muslim barbarism ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Mr Spencer, you truly represent the mindset of mad Christian bigots .you (sic) mean UK is becoming sharia state simply some rascals were arrested for burning your enemy the Quran?
…………………………….
That’s *exactly* what it means. There is no ban on burning the Bible, Book of Mormon, Baghavad Gita, or any other holy book. That charges are brought for criticizing the vicious Qur’an is indeed enforcing Shari’ah norms.
And note–ibrahim itace muhammed considers someone a “bigot” if they object to Muslims raping and murdering us.
More:
whether (sic) you hate the Quran or want it banned from christian (sic) west,people (sic) consider it more reasonable and rational than your evil bible (the book of genocide and pornography)inspired (sic) by the satan who appears to filthy christians (sic) like dove they call holy spirit.
…………………………….
Who considers the hideously violent Qur’an–which calls for Muslims to slaughter Infidels wherever they find them–to be more reasonable and rational than the Bible? Only supremacist Mohammedans consider such carnage to be “reasonable and rational”. *Ugh*.
More:
Mr (sic) spencer,you (sic) can start shaking your head like idol worshipers in India to start seeing creatures with eyes inside eyes to prove that holy ghost has descended on you and then lead filthy christians (sic) in the United states to go on rampage burning million copies of the Quran like what you coreligionist Hindu barbarians burn mosques in India after experiencing such mental delusions.
…………………………….
What absolute claptrap. Christians are not going on a rampage burning other people’s property; instead, they are burning their *own* copies of the Qur’an in protest of its contents.
No surprise that the witless muhammed is unable to grasp the difference.
gravenimage says
+1
Jayell says
It’s difficult to see exactly where to start replying to this catalogue of incoherent garbage, but:-
“….people consider it (the Qu’ran) more reasonable and rational than your evil bible (the book of genocide and pornography)…….
1. Which people hold this strange opinion? Care to name them?
2. The Qu’ran can easily demonstrated to be incoherent, irrational and ridiculously contradictory;
3. It’s equally absurd saying on the one hand that the Bble is ‘evil’ and on the other trying it imply that the Qu’ran itsn’t, when a lot of the Qu’ran is directly plagiarised from the Bible;
4. The Song of Songs gets a bit fruity, but that’s about all and it is beautifully poetic and comes nowhere near the unending catalogue of adolescent puerile sexist trash that runs not only through the Qu’ran but also informs a lot of islam generally which would be best confined to the walls of a public convenience cubicle;
5. Can’t think where the geocide bit comes in. ibrahim itace muhammed must be making it up, unless this is a new English word that he’s just learned from the intelligent discussions of Islam in the West, and he doesn’t really know what it means.
6. I’ve read about as much of the Qu’ran and commentaries that I can stomach, and it does seem to be quite a comprehensive handbook for aspiring criminals and sexual deviants.
Carolyne says
I agree with what he did. Burning a book which teaches rape, murder, mutilation————- it is a good thing to do with it. I can’t believe a law which forbids burning a book -any book- could exist in the land of Magna Carta. Likewise an overheard conversation between husband and wife. Have they gone mad?
D J says
Pleas try telling that to the mother of Alexandre from Boro Bistro who kindly served me in Boro Bistro 4 days before being brutally stabbed to death by a mansteeped in Islamic hatred.
I will be back just like I got back after being on the Underground after 7/7.
To paraphrase Kipling : This Saxon has learned to hate.
My motto from now on is the same as the heroic Roy Larner: F### you I’m Millwall! as he fought back against 3 muslims with knives
gravenimage says
So sorry to hear about your server, D J.
I also had a close acquaintance who was a barista at a cafe I used to frequent. He would hang out with me on the back patio where I would paint and he would take his cigarette break.
He was gunned down when he went out for cigarettes one night by the Jihadists at Your Black Muslim Bakery. I knew another one of their victims, as well–Journalist Chauncey Bailey.
lagitane says
Pornography? Do “filthy” Christians have sex with donkeys and goats? Do Christians obliterate their girls’ genitals because their males are completely inadequate? Please show me the faces of the Christian women whose faces have been obliterated by acid because their religion condones it. Your vile Islam is on the same level as Nazism; many who called themselves Nazis back in the day did not personally abuse others, but their dogma was straight from Hell. Just like your vile Koran. And you deluded Mohamheads burn Yazidis alive because they worship the Devil? I vote we organize a burn-a-koran-day nationwide.
gravenimage says
+1
Carolyne says
And if he were my neighbor I’d love him to invite me to a barbeque when he burns more korans. Barbequed pork.
Boston Tea Party says
In the big picture, that’s the entire rationale for the concept of free speech: namely, that if you let people air their grievances and complaints freely, and if society accepts that being occasionally offended is the price you pay for living in a free society, then speech and debate will REPLACE actual physical violence. Free speech, in the long run, acts as a pressure release valve.
Instead, the West is increasingly abandoning that idea, and seems to think that, conversely, tightening the lid on the pressure cooker is the solution. There’s simply no way that’s going to end well.
But really, the reason any government or political movement censors speech is always for the same reason: their worldview and ideology are too fragile and irrational to withstand free speech and honest inquiry. And that’s certainly the situation we find ourselves in today with the pseudo-religion of Multiculturalism.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“… then speech and debate will REPLACE actual physical violence.”
Yes, yes, precisely!
And History teaches us that physical violence is like fire. Once started it’s difficult to control and often consumes everything.
Bronxgirl says
What if video showed a page of the Old Testament, the New Testament, and the Koran each being burned by a Jew, a Muslim, and a Christian who then sat down to tea together?
Arthur says
The Muslim would be murdered within a week for making friends with the enemy.
The Jew and the Christian would be murdered for blasphemy.
Such is the solution of Islam: kill, kill, kill.
Bronxgirl says
Yes, Arthur, but what would happen legally?
Agha Ali Arkhan says
To Bronxgirl: Great point!
Bronxgirl says
Thanks, Agha. I think of doing such things, but it would endanger my family etc. I really admire those, like Robert Spencer,who make these free speech arguments so bravely. I have a dear friend who is Muslim that has told me she would like to do a YouTube video with me-Jewish/ Muslim friends bantering- but I have in mind weightier free speech topics to explore that would make it more dangerous than what she has in mind.
gravenimage says
Grimly true, Arthur.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“I think of doing such things, but it would endanger my family etc.”
Yes Bronxgirl but there is a way to fight back:
To defeat Mohammadism without the risk to you and your family you simply do battle with the political left. This is much more painless that wrestling directly with Mohammadians. If you do battle (obviously, I am speaking figuratively) with the left, no one will call you a “leftophobe.” You may harbour misgivings about Mohammadism, even downright hate it, but if you never show it publicly and expend all your energies doing battle with the left (which aids and abets Mohammadism) then you are much less likely to be a target (smear campaigns, etc).
Troybeam says
Islam a double edge sword, Islam followers and can speak about beheading the infidel and nothing happens however get an infidel burning the Koran and its hate speech, thus making Islam a double edge…….no matter what Islam says or does they get away with it while infidels get nailed for perceived hate crime, perhaps they just wanted to get warm and used many books to make it happen.
Cretius says
Yes, that is the hypocrisy of our so-called secular politicians.
gravenimage says
Yes–it is insane that Muslims openly preach the most horrific violence, yet Infidels are charged with ‘inciting hatred’ for daring to criticize that violence.
Cretius says
When my wife lived in Saudi Arabia they confiscated her Bible and stole all her music CDs at the Riyadh airport. She was forced to attend illegal Christian services in private homes.
Islam is a supremacist belief system that makes no accommodations to other belief systems. By making accommodation to Islamists it simply confirms their belief of the inferiority of non-believers. Western politicians have proven to be useful idiots in furthering the goals of worldwide jihad. History has shown that aggressive Islam is only checked by military action. We are slowly moving to that time.
gravenimage says
All true, Cretius.
thomas says
The law is what ever the judge decides.
It is sad, but these guys are in real trouble in the UK. The British judges practice political corrections. E.g Tommy Robinson.
For the time being, the USA has free speech. Free speech is attached daily.
Charli Main says
‘We have been in contact with our local Muslim community via Councillor Jabba Riaz, deputy Mayor for Worcester who, as always, acts as a critical friend in support of what we do.”
Double speak for ” our Muslim masters have jumped on our asses and if we don’t take action against those upstart kaffirs we are going to get ” sharia-ed”
gravenimage says
True. Here’s more double speak from Muslims at the local Mosque:
“We reject any violence especially carried out in the name of Islam,” the group said in a press release signed by presidents of the Islamic Society of Greater Worcester and the Worcester Islamic Center.
“We reject extremism, fear-mongering and violence…”
“Fear-mongering”–in other words, that anyone be allowed to say that Islam is violent or Muslims are a threat to Britons.
http://www.telegram.com/news/20170525/worcester-area-muslims-condemn-terrorist-attack-in-england
RICHTHOFEN says
But muslims are free to burn poppies, display ISIS nazi flags, teach hatred, hold violent demos., etc., etc., with impunity!
Ace-of-Clubs says
Typical action of the appeasing, emasculated police force in modern Britain. Rare examples like this are blown up out of all proportion, as if they were on a par with what has happened recently in London and Manchester. Jihadists are running wild in our country, allowed to say what they like in meetings, demos and online, and yet the police come down like a ton of bricks on these two people.
Islam is not a race, therefore burning the Koran cannot be termed racist or inciting racial hatred.
See what a mess we’re in over here in the UK?
Boston Tea Party says
We’re only a few years behind in the US. The same ideologies of cultural relativism and multiculturalism are widespread in every Western nation at this point.
Arthur says
But it is not so easy to overturn the 1st and 2nd amendments. We are spared only by these two remnants of our previous civilization.
Boston Tea Party says
“…remnants of our previous civilization.” That’s very well put–an apt description. I hope they do hold up.
Carolyne says
I don’t believe that Americans will ever accept infringement on our First Amendment. I hope no politician ever tries.
Mirren10 says
If any British jihadwatcher’s would like to contact West Mercia Police, and Superintendent Purcell, and tell them what you think of this outrageous arrest, the email contact is below.
contactus@westmercia.police.uk
gravenimage says
Thanks for providing the link, Mirren.
My police superintendent grandfather served West Mercia–back when his district was known as the Herefordshire Constabulary–long before any of this insanity.
Anne Smith says
I think they will say that the “Hate crime” was not burning the Quran per se but in showing the burning of it on Youtube. In other words they will be accused of inciting hatred against Muslims through the medium of Youtube.
The Police Force is no longer what it was in Great Britain, it is now a sort of soppy social service which spends a great proportion of its time tracking down hate crimes or any sort of racial comments which could be construed against Muslims on social media.
Prevention of good old fashioned burglary, arson, robbery, assaults and violence does not interest them any more. The new Metropolitan Commisioner is a right-on PC female called Cressida Dick who will not do anything to change this.
Sharia May rightly got a kicking in the election and hopefully after a few months the Tories will have replaced her with someone who is a great deal sounder. Under May’s profligate reign at the Home Office we had a massive influx of immigrants and the Sharia Courts rose from around 45 up to 260 when she became Prime Minister.
Wontsayforfearofarrest says
Thank you for the email address, please see my email below, I’ll keep you posted.
Dear sirs,
I am writing to you to peacefully object to the prosecution of Paul Weston who I feel was using his right of free speech.
I will defend the rights of Muslims to be offended but also mr Weston’s right to offend them, it’s called free speech.
I have read the Quran many times and it offends me due to its oppression of women , gays and other religious groups, will you arrest all Muslims who believe it’s ok to throw gay people off roofs or who think it’s just to kill apostates.
It is our right to protest against such barbarity. why are the police arresting people who believe in equal rights whilst protecting people of this violent ideology?
I have lost all confidence in our democratic system and I no longer trust the police, the main purpose of government and the police is to protect us, this has been forgotten due to the fact Muslims may be offended.
I peacefully object to Islamic ideology and I peacefully object to your actions.
A very concerned citizen.
Lydia says
If this trend continues, they won’t need to wage jihad in order to gain the territory, it will already have been won for them by such subtle strategies as a slow conforming to their culture and laws, etc.
It is turning into a bloodbath also as anyone can see in Europe, in many ways.
Terry Gain says
Being arrested for an enlightened book review! This is pathetic.
Monty says
Thanks, done.
Notmoron says
British voters GONE RETARD
Terry Gain says
Being arrested for an enlightened book review! This is pathetic.
Hector Archytas says
Asking people to Burn unacceptable verse of the Koran is the best way to distinguish radical to users.
People should be forced by law to burn some of its verse as we would be the most effictive strategy to separate the “moderate” to the radical.
I don’t see the point to know that a man is a radicalm after he killed 50 people. We have way to know it before the event !!!! Japanese did it effectively to catch radical christian in the 1600’s with a great success.
gravenimage says
Christians were not slaughtering people in Japan in the 1600s–what calumny.
Frank Verderber says
Is the Muslim book Quran or Koran?
Does it matter that its noun is compound?
If the spelling will not matter,
Then the insides do not flatter,
and its ashes illumine what’s profound!
John A. Marre says
The UK has no future, and deserves the fate that it is welcoming. The authorities order law enforcement to go easy on Muslim rapists and murderers, but to clamp down hard on people who put bacon near mosques or trash a book.
gravenimage says
John, surely the pair who criticized the Qur’an do not deserve this fate?
Jaladhi says
As long as the UK police wastes its valuable time in chasing people exercising their freedom and rights they will never be able to catch the real evil terrorists before the their terror attacks. Catching them after they have murdered innocent citizens is just too late for those who lost their lives. When will the politicians who control the police learn anything from their failed policies??
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Every time I see an article like this I think back to kaboooooooooooooooooooooooooom’s long list of UK Mohammadian officials (elected and otherwise) that he/she posted in response to my comment about jihadis being protected in the UK. It only follows that if the jihadis are being protected then the dhimmis who step out of line will be punished.
pnr says
only born slaves need crutch of ‘religion’
Ahimsic Dharma never hurt ANYONE.
May all enemies of Beloved Bharat perish: kosherchrislamics/Marxists/Chinese/negroes etc.
Caste/Cows/Kahdi/Sati2protectKaste4ever!
AryavatranAryaputhra alone will defeat Jihadist scum from Earth Forever!!!
Sanskrit is Eternal.
kangi_yotaka says
So you hate Jews, Christians, communists, Chinese, and black people, and advocate the hideous caste system, which relegates people to “untouchable” status?
And you’re a hindu-supremacist?
Greaaaaat.
gravenimage says
pnr wrote:
Ahimsic Dharma never hurt ANYONE.
May all enemies of Beloved Bharat perish: kosherchrislamics/Marxists/Chinese/negroes etc.
Caste/Cows/Kahdi/Sati2protectKaste4ever!
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I’ve heard pnr rant about how Hindus are superior to everyone before, as well as his hatred of Christians and Jews, even though they present no threat to Hindus.
Now it turns out he is so racist he believes that Chinese people and “negroes” are his enemies, and he wants them all dead. This is insane–most Chinese and Black people spend almost no time thinking about Hinduism at all. They are certainly not his enemies.
His championing of the institutionally oppressive and unequal Caste System–almost entirely abandoned by most Hindus now–is disturbing.
But there is something even worse than the above, here: pnr’s horrific approval of Sati (also known as Suttee), whereby widows are *burned alive* on their husband’s funeral pyres, or sometimes buried alive
*Very few* Hindus want to revive this barbaric practice today, and there were Hindu reformers at least as far back as the early 19th century who supported its banning. Sati is illegal in India today, and has been for almost 200 years now.
Forcing women to burn themselves to death is one of the very few things done by any Infidels that is a horrific as anything you find in Islam.
*Nothing* to be proud of. *Ugh*.
Charli Main says
GI, I suspect that this character is not Hindu at all.
He could well be a Pakistani/Indian Muslim spewing all that racist crap, to try and make Hindus look like bigoted nut jobs.
gravenimage says
Charli and RCH, you certainly could be correct. pnr does seem to have at least a superficial understanding of some aspects of Hinduism–but that could just mean he is a Muslim troll who has had some small contact with Hindus, perhaps in India.
Anyway, whatever he is, he is no ally of ours. As I have said before, proud to stand with you both.
gravenimage says
RCH, don’t worry–I *know* most Hindus are civilized people, and nothing like the ugly pnr.
Glad to stand with you against Jihad. 🙂
Nigel GFF says
“…pages from the holy book…”
Thanks Mailonline, I was debating (me and other Holy texts) whether we should consider the Koran to be ‘holy’. We are now to accept that the text is holy because your learned staff say so. Thanks again.
P.S. F- off. I’m sure your learned staff can fill in the blank.
DRHazard says
There is no difference between burning the Quran and burning a copy of Mein Kampf. It doesn’t make any sense to call burning a book full of hatred and calls to racial hatred a crime. If Canada actually followed their own law then the Quran (and Hadith) would be banned.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The contents of the Koran and the Sunnah are seditious to all constitutional democracies. If Mohammadism was actually widely understood and reason ruled then this belief system would be banned under the treason laws in all constitutional democracies.
jewdog says
Now I see where those famous British good manners come from: If you’re not polite, they clap you in irons.
gravenimage says
Jewdog, the Britons have not always been like this.
gravenimage says
Sharia UK: Two arrested over video of Qur’an burning
They were arrested “on suspicion of racial hatred.”
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Grotesque. Islam has nothing to do with race.
This is criticism. As long as the book belongs to them and is not someone else’s property, they have every right to burn it.
Here is someone burning the Bible. I personally consider this fairly idiotic, but he has *every right* to do this, without fear of arrest or harm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshCI90Nfqc
He is not threatening anyone, either. He notified the Mormon Church that he was burning the Bible (along with the Book of Mormon). The Church is sending out a representative with two new books for him, hoping he will read them. This fellow says he looks forward to their coming, so he can let then know “how delusional they are”.
This is an entirely rational response–the guy who burns the Bible is not threatened with legal charges or physical harm, nor is he threatening people who believe in the content of these books.
But then, these are civilized Christians and Atheists, not Muslims or their oppressive dhimmi enablers.
Benedict says
It’s reading the Qur’an that incites hatred. Burning the Qur’an produces warmth.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Nice. I like it. “Chestnut roasting over a burning Koran…” lol
Eyes Open says
If we can’t burn the books maybe they should have warnings on them like cigarette packets. Reading may cause violence. Islam is a cancer
Samson says
I’m inspired…
I need to find that book (qur’an)
Take whizz all over it and get on YouTube
Reverend John Donaghue says
I used to be a prison chaplain and would hand inmates those small Gideon’s Bibles (New Testament). I must have handed out hundreds of them until the day I noticed an inmate tearing out a page (very thin paper) to roll a cigarette. How many of my bibles were destroyed in this way? Someone should now burn a bible using the same speech and actions and see if they are arrested and charged with racial hatred. If not, then this could be used as part of a defence for those charged with burning the Koran.
dumbledoresarmy says
“Someone should now burn a bible using the same speech and actions and see if they are arrested and charged with racial hatred. If not, then this could be used as part of a defence for those charged with burning the Koran.”
Yes.
That is an *excellent* idea. Same words, same actions. Test it.
Monty says
Islam will prevail in the UK (and Europe) through simple demographics. They can keep leaders off balance by the current strategies of Jihad and misinformation until Muslims outnumber the non-Muslims. The war has been lost already. The occupation forces are taking up position and conquest will be complete in 20-30 years. The only solution is to rid all non-Muslim countries of Muslims while there is still time. It will not happen. Some countries are less corrupted by Islam’s lies but even the USA is stumbling. There is not a lot of time.
Martel says
The fullness of time will show you to be correct.
NATO bombed the Serbs when they should have assisted them in removing their Muslim population to Albania.
If the west is to survive they will only survive by implementing your suggestion.
Sardonyx says
Religion is not a race, nor are religious books. Sheesh, all common sense has flown in the collective UK mindset.
steve zabriski says
British police and politicians are commiting treason.
gravenimage says
I don’t always consider burning the Qur’an the most productive form of criticism, but I make an exception with the incomparable Ann Barnhardt. If you have not seen this video yet, enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad1XLIlhBJE
Her righteous disgust at its evil–and her bacon bookmarks–are just awesome.
Colin Fuller says
How can you arrest someone for racism for burning a book? Islam is not a race! Whoever sanctioned this arrest is an absolute moron. Political correctness in the United Kingdom is an absolute joke, for Gods sake people get your frickin act together whilst you still can.
Aussie Infidel says
How can it be ‘racial hatred’ to burn a book about a religion? Muslims, like the followers of other religions, come from many different races! The Quran is merely an inanimate book which contains the tenets of Islam. Books have no race! Muslims are so easily offended, but blind to their own hypocrisy. The ignoble Quran itself preaches hatred of the kuffar almost ad nauseum. It’s like the pot calling the kettle black.
“We caused among them (Christians) animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection.” (Quran 5:14).
“O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people.” (Quran 5:51).
“the disbelief of the disbelievers does not increase them in the sight of their Lord except in hatred.” (Quran 35:39).
“Indeed, those who disbelieve will be addressed, ‘The hatred of Allah for you was [even] greater than your hatred of yourselves [this Day in Hell] when you were invited to faith, but you refused’.” (Quran 40:10).
“Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from whatever you worship other than Allah. We have denied you, and there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone.” (Quran 60:4).
“Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture (Jews) and the polytheists (Christians), will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.” (Quran 98:6).
duh swami says
Fight the filthy kuffar until all resisters to Islam stops…Seems to be working well in the UK….
Al Sharpton, America;s favorite race baiter once said, ‘resist we much’…He wasn’t talking about Islam, but if you don’t want to get swallowed by the beast, ‘resist we much’, is sage advice…
Creole Gumbo says
The argument that should be put forth is not to deny that he is a “racist” or an “islamaphobe” or whatever else can be conjured up but question an individual’s right to believe in the superiority of one group of people and or their beliefs versus another. We are all entitled to our beliefs and entitled to express those beliefs.
dumbledoresarmy says
It coulda been worse, I suppose.
He could have been using it as dunny paper rather than as firestarter…
Or putting it in his compost bin, along with the old newspapers.
A more creative way to go about the burning would have been to start by *reading out loud* some of the nastier verses – e.g. the wife-beating verse. Read it out loud.. specify the chapter and verse… express disagreement…”But that’s assault! That’s ILLEGAL and CRIMINAL!”… then rip out the page and put it in the fire. As a concrete symbol of one’s rejection and condemnation of the appalling *teaching*.
Lots of other nasty verses, too; the one about Muslims being ‘harsh’ or ‘cruel’ to unbelievers and compassionate to one another (surah 48.29); the verse that specifies procedures after divorce, in which it’s clear the writer envisages little girls who’ve been wedded and bedded – and divorced! before they’ve even got their first period, and the verses that forbid friendship with – and encourage outright *hatred* of – non-Muslims, and of course, all the numerous Jihad verses, especially 9.5 and 9.29.
Imagine if they were all identified and read out loud, in tones of disgust, before being put on the fire.
Georg says
Oh, a Koran was burned? Let me rank that at most # 23,001 of UK’s problems.
fcs says
Why do Western governments convict citizens for burning the Koran or making remarks that are derogatory of Mohammad or Islam and not convict citizens for doing the same thing with other religious beliefs? Very simple!! Muslims will kill you, blow up your women and children, blow up your buildings and Christians, Hindus, Jews, and other religious belief systems will not because they are composed of people that are sane, civilized and they actually possess morals. Muslims do not, Islam is violent, evil and death orientated. Their false prophet Mohammad was an insane murdering sex fiend and Muslims are only following the lead of their insane/demon possessed prophet.
Frederick Middleton says
So books can be the victims of hate crime? I remember having a pretty low opinion of ‘Tom Jones’ and ‘The Canterbury Tales’ while doing A levels. Was this incipient racism?
Graham says
Rather than burning the koran it would be better to get our muslim friends to actually read it (as most of them don’t). Once they start to see what everyone else can see it might make them think.
When they challenge the science of the koran – like the earth being flat, there being 7 flat earths above each other, Allah holding up the sky so that it doesn’t fall onto us, the sun going down into a pond etc etc, then they have to start asking questions.
The dilemma they have then is that if they choose not to believe it they could be put to death!! Or their family will reject them, Or both! That’s not a good place to be which might explain why so many muslims choose not to read it!
gravenimage says
Dear Graham, I’m afraid all too many Muslims *do* read the Qur’an–and so wage violent Jihad against us on its diktats.
Cretius says
This Islamic prohibition against questioning the teachings of the Koran is the root problem. It prevents any possibility of modernising their belief system. Our Bible talks of stoning, slavery etc. but Christians and Jews of today have put that aside. Also, we no longer kill heretics or non-believers.
It must be remembered that Islam is not a race. Islam is a supremacist belief system made up of ideas. People have rights. Ideas do not.
Canada’s Parliamentary Motion M-103 is designed to curtail any legitimate and fair comment or discussion of Islamic teachings, related cultural practices, the aggressive and bloody history of the 1,400 year holy war against non-believers or of their prophet. Ideas that cannot stand up to scrutiny need such laws. Muslims are not allowed to question these matters and consequently wish to shut down the opinions of non-believers by attacking our secular democracy that values free speech and debate. Let your MP and our party leaders know your opinion.
Free speech is under attack and must be defended or liberalism will become the new fascism of the 21st century.
Halal Bacon says
If people who have unpopular opinions don’t have the freedom to express them, nobody has freedom of speach. In such a society, people are permitted to say certain things. What is allowed and what isn’t is up to the whims of parasitic politicians.