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UK: Imams falsely claim that “inviolability of every human life is the founding principle” of Islam

Jun 6, 2017 10:20 am By Robert Spencer

“They expressed ‘shock and utter disgust’ at Saturday’s ‘cold-blooded murders,’ and said the actions of the attackers ‘alienates them from any association with our community for whom the inviolability of every human life is the founding principle (Q.5:32).'”

Shock? Really? The last thing anyone should be is shocked, especially an imam who knows full well the incitements to violence that are contained in the Qur’an and Sunnah. They may be disgusted, but shocked? After 30,000 jihad attacks worldwide committed in the name of Islam and in accord with its teaching? That strains credulity.

Likewise straining credulity is their claim that the “inviolability of every human life is the founding principle” of the Islamic community, and their citation of Qur’an 5:32 to support this claim. This is one of the most oft-quoted verses of the Qur’an, the one that non-Muslim leaders refer to most frequently when claiming that Islam is a religion of peace:

Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption in the land — it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one — it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. (v. 32)

There is less to this than Western leaders and Islamic apologists claim. First, note that it is not a general prohibition of killing — there are big exceptions for those who kill “for a soul or for corruption in the land.” Second, this is not a general command, but one only for the Children of Israel. Third, “many of them, after that … were transgressors” — so all it is really saying is that Allah gave a command to the Children of Israel and they transgressed against it.

(Meanwhile, some Islamic authorities interpret this passage in a supremacist manner, as applying only to Muslims: Sa’id bin Jubayr explains: “He who allows himself to shed the blood of a Muslim, is like he who allows shedding the blood of all people. He who forbids shedding the blood of one Muslim, is like he who forbids shedding the blood of all people.”)

Never mentioned by the many who quote this verse as if it condemns Islamic jihad violence are the caveats above. Nor do they mention that it is followed by 5:33, which specifies the punishment for the corruption and transgressions of the Children of Israel: “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment.”

Thus this passage is explaining what must be done with Jews who reject Muhammad, not dictating lofty moral principles. Ibn Warraq sums it up: “The supposedly noble sentiments are in fact a warning to Jews. ‘Behave, or else’ is the message. Far from abjuring violence, these verses aggressively point out that anyone opposing the Prophet will be killed, crucified, mutilated, and banished!”

These 130 imams know all this. Yet they still invoke Qur’an 5:32 in a misleading way. It casts doubts upon their honesty.

“130 British imams refuse to perform funerals for London, Manchester attackers,” by Haley Joelle Ott, CBS News, June 6, 2017:

Over 130 imams from across the United Kingdom have said they will refuse to perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the London and Manchester terror attackers. The ritual is normally carried out for every Muslim, regardless of their actions.

In what is a highly unusual move, Muslim religious leaders from different schools of Islam — both Sunni and Shia — issued a statement late Monday saying their pain at the suffering of the victims of Saturday’s attacks had led to their decision, and they called on others imams to follow suit.

“We are deeply hurt that a spate of terror attacks have been committed in our country once more by murderers who seek to gain religious legitimacy for their actions. We seek to clarify that their reprehensible actions have neither legitimacy nor our sympathy,” the statement put out by the Muslim Council of Britain (MCB), an umbrella body representing over 500 organizations, read.

“Consequently, and in light of other such ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam, we will not perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the perpetrators and we also urge fellow imams and religious authorities to withdraw such a privilege. This is because such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the lofty teachings of Islam,” the statement continued.

They expressed “shock and utter disgust” at Saturday’s “cold-blooded murders,” and said the actions of the attackers “alienates them from any association with our community for whom the inviolability of every human life is the founding principle (Q.5:32).”…

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Comments

  1. DogOnPorch says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 10:34 am

    Quran 5:32 ….unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land…

    Two conditions are attached to 5:32

    Murder for revenge and to prevent fasad (mischief making against Islam) are permissible. Almost anything and everything not Islamic is considered fasad.

    • Jayke says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 7:29 pm

      The proper interpretation also depends on what the meaning of “human,” “life” and “is” is …

  2. Jihadi John says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 10:35 am

    Allah himself plagiarized Surah 5:32 from the Jewish Talmud: Sanhedrin 37a.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm

      K.5.32 is a human fingerprint on the Koran which identifies the Koran as a human forgery foisted on the world by an unscrupulous CULT LEADER.

      • murad says

        Jun 6, 2017 at 10:37 pm

        forgery foisted on the world by the help of unscrupulous TRAITIRS.

    • Ken says

      Jun 7, 2017 at 11:43 am

      Exactly J John, the Muslims God is a moron, he didn’t know the difference between the Talmud and the Torah

  3. Paul N Silas says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Nonbelievers lives are worth to these savages, about as much as the ants crawling on the sidewalk. Who is this clown kidding?

    • murad says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 10:36 pm

      Who is this clown kidding?

      He is kidding THE TRAITORS, for sure.

      • Bob says

        Jun 7, 2017 at 6:15 am

        Taqqiya (spelling?) is the word for which I’ve been groping!

  4. CogitoErgoSum says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 11:17 am

    Exceedingly strange that these terrorists know all about Muhammad and can quote the Quran by heart yet do not understand the “basic founding principle” of Islam. Maybe the fact that Islam is a two-faced religion of dualism has something to do with it. Anytime somebody quotes something from the Quran they should be asked if there is also another verse in the Quran that abrogates or “improves” upon what is being quoted. Yes, Islam is that kind of tricky religion. It’s founding principle was later “improved” to allow Muslims to kill infidels wherever they may be found.

    • Demsci says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 12:39 pm

      You nailed it!

      Take the Meccan and Medinan verses; Muslims can adhere to the Meccan verses when in the minority in a Western country, and then, when they get a majority, suddenly, conveniently go over to the Medinan verses. But while pretending that even when they are in majority they will always keep practicing the Meccan verses. Such deception.

      • CogitoErgoSum says

        Jun 6, 2017 at 1:20 pm

        Thank you, Demsci. And here’s another thing. I see that the signs in the picture above have written on them “NOT IN OUR NAME” and “LOVE NOT HATE.” Do Muslims really believe the slogans on these signs or do they believe what is written in the Quran? Quran 3:32 states:

        Say: ‘Obey Allah and obey the Messenger.’ If they turn away from this then know that Allah does not love those who refuse to obey Him and His Messenger.”

        The Quran itself says Allah does not love those who do not obey Allah and Muhammad. That is, Allah does not love those who are unbelievers. Yet …. Muslims do? So they love what Allah does NOT love? Well then, in whose name do they proclaim their love? It is certainly not in Allah’s name.

        And ……. now that I’ve quoted the Quran …. is there any later verse that abrogates or improves upon 3:32? How about the improvements made in chapter 9 … ???… containing some of the last verses revealed and calling for Muslims to slay the unbelievers in every place of ambush.

        Oh you infidels, feel the love of Allah. Ha!

      • pop seal says

        Jun 6, 2017 at 10:48 pm

        abrogation……..

  5. Peter Buckley says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 11:21 am

    As the Internet quickly destroys Islam (only 10 years in, and already they’re trying to “reform” Islam), you can now go on youtube and watch as muslims are forced to admit that Verse 5:32 is not what they have been claiming for 1400 years:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0FVZB9kZps

    Please link to this clip whenever muslims (mis)quote 5:32. Just ask them if they simply haven’t read Quran properly, or whether they are deliberately lying. Hilarious.

    P.S.Was watching youtube last night, and it would appear Apostasy from Islam is possibly the world’s biggest growth industry…………

  6. Michael McDermott says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 11:24 am

    On UK LBC radio we have just had “love a Muslim hour” and that the Quran is all about peace and goodwill to all. Followed by an hate Trump hour. Followed by Christianity having failings equal to those of Islam – espoused by the Archbishop of Canterbury. We are doomed!

    • Westman says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 12:28 pm

      Have faith, people will wake up in time. Leading Britain’s Conversation is doomed if it doesn’t stop selling Islam before the people understand its reality.

      Imagine the sleepless nights the Mayor of London spends, worrying that someone, having a name that is derived from Muhammad, is about to commit an act of terror in Allah’s name.

      • WPM says

        Jun 6, 2017 at 6:17 pm

        He loses no sleep he has his script made out with the backing of useful idiot progressives the MSM has been eating it up for the last 16 years. The Islamic mayor is not worried about the people leading England ,France and Germany he is worry about big “Satan” America , little “Satan” Israel and the wild card Russia. He like every good Islamic has a public face and words he needs to say and personal beliefs he keeps in his little dark heart. Sometimes the truth leaves his lips and he does his little song and dance tune with the help of MSM playing the instruments .I can picture him in bed with dreams of Islamics running over Kaffar with trucks smashing burning churches , and Temples.

  7. andra says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 11:46 am

    I think the point is that these imans does not consider an infidel´s life as human, as the infildels are less than animals.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 7, 2017 at 3:22 am

      Yep.

      It’s typical mohammedan doublespeak.

      ‘Human’ = sharia-compliant fellow Muslim of the same sect as the Muslim who happens to be speaking at the time.

      Infidels are NOT human and don’t count. Muslims who are insufficiently-Islamic and or heretical can be reclassified as ‘infidel’ and therefore become prey animals, too.

      Likewise, “innocent”. Innocent = sharia-compliant fellow Muslim of the same sect.

      Anyone else is NOT innocent and is therefore fair game.

      Kuffar are guilty by definition.

      Once one knows the special Islamic definitions of ‘human’ and ‘innocent’ (along with the special Islamic definitions of terms like ‘justice’ , ‘oppression’, ‘truth’, one can see straight through all the flowery nothings that mohammedan spokespersons spew forth straight after some ghastly mohammedan atrocity against Infidels (or against deemed-insufficiently-Islamic Muslims).

  8. Westman says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 12:10 pm

    Withdrawing funeral prayers for Muslim terrorists is only an effective tool to call off the MSM dogs and completely without effect within the Muslim community.

    Since there is no “priesthood”, “pope”, or actual means to allocate and pass authority in Islam, no cleric has the power to commit a terrorist to Hell, or, to Jannah(paradise). All Islam has is “rulings” by “scholars” for its total authority; a system in which someone can memorize the Quran, get a few followers and declare himself to be a cleric. To ascend in the ranks one would study at Egypt’s Al-Azhar or at a Iran’s Hawza ‘Ilmiyya Qom.

    With no central authority, (nobody speaks for Allah), whatever these clerics tokenly declare, in the West, will have no influence on terrorists who can read the Quran and Hadith for themselves. In their mind, Allah has promised Jannah for fighting infidels, and no cleric has the power to cancel it.

    It could be legitimately said that Islam is out of control in the West without the harsh punishments of Shariah laws that exist in Muslim nations. Here, in the West, the clerics are relatively toothless – they have no civil authority to imprison; they just imprison minds.

    The Islamic fundamentalists see the phony cleric protestations and apologetics for Islam and ignore it. The Web is littered with Islamic Q and A and Imam’s sites that teach mainstream Islam’s hating of the infidel, jihad, and sedition for any nation. Anyone can determine that Islam is a force for globalization with a goal of erasing nations.

    The grandest lie, spoken by Muslims, is that the infidel has equal value to a Muslim within Islamic Ideology and law. No media can sell this lie and remain credible. Pleading ignorance, or worse, knowing this meme is a falsehood can only lead to disrespect when it’s no longer possible to even “fool some of the people, some of the time.”

    • Demsci says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 12:58 pm

      Very informative and rational post.

      Forgive me if I experience translating your splendid explanation into:

      In practice, although it seems Islam is clear, either in the positive sense according to all Muslims (who just cannot get themselves to contradict the Quranic declaration of it’s own clarity and simplicity),

      Or in the negative sense, which many in the West now believe,

      OR Islam is multi-interpretable, UNCLEAR, due to absence of real authority and presence of almost random clerics, and furthermore due to the almost wholly unnoticed, deceitful non-mentioning and there fore rejection of various Hadith, Tafsirs and Islamic Scholars, when it suits Islam-apologists, among whom are even Western Politicians! Example is that if Tafsirs point out Quran-Sira-Hadith are prescriptive, apologists tell Westerners that some parts of them are of the past, so only descriptive,

      But that rejection of many Tafsirs/ Islamic Scholars is then not honestly mentioned, but deliberately omitted! More deceit, more difference in messages, one to the co-religionists and one to the infidels.

      But, when a majority of Westerners finally realizes that Islam because of the very lying of apologists can be declared multi-interpretable, it can be recognized that such a multi-interpretable religion, in combination with hundreds of millions of followers who demonstrably interpret it anti-Democratic and anti-Western and in an supremacist oppressive way,

      Simply is a religion that is (potentially at least) very volatile and dangerous. And anyone in a democratic society who clings to it, should be, albeit reasonably, mildly, discriminated against. By lower trust and higher monitoring at least.

  9. Irene Brekelmans says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 12:11 pm

    There is not any imam, man or woman of Islam faith that I trust or ever will trust again. Be aware , they lie so much in your face,but oh, don’t trust them with nothing or in anything. Look into the qu’ran.

  10. Jayell says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    “Over 130 imams from across the United Kingdom have said they will refuse to perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the London and Manchester terror attackers….”,

    … but the others will. We all know that.

    “In what is a highly unusual move, Muslim religious leaders……issued a statement late Monday saying their pain at the suffering of the victims of Saturday’s attacks had led to their decision….”…

    How many atrocities have we had from these jokers, and only now do we get a ‘statement’ – for whatever that’s supposed to be worth. And the only ‘pain’ they’re bothered about is their own when the now-inevitable backlash starts

    “We are deeply hurt that a spate of terror attacks have been committed in our country…”

    Rubbish. They make it clear that they have nothing short of open contempt for the British people and British values, therefore it is NOT ‘their’ country. And the great British public increasingly no longer accepts them.

    “Consequently, and in light of other such ethical principles which are quintessential to Islam”….

    Islam hasn’t got any ‘ethical principles’, just incoherent, unprincipled opportunist claptrap.

    “This is because such indefensible actions are completely at odds with the lofty teachings of Islam,” the statement continued….”

    ‘Indefensible’? When they usually have no problem defending this sort of thing because it’s clearly prescribed and described in their ‘Holy’ books, and therefore completely in line with their ‘lofty’ (sic) teachings, and we all know it?

    They expressed “shock and utter disgust” at Saturday’s “cold-blooded murders,” and said the actions of the attackers “alienates them from any association with our community for whom the inviolability of every human life is the founding principle (Q.5:32).”…

    These jokers are apparently ‘shocked’ at the slightest thing whenever it suits their devious self-seeking purposes, and if they are so ‘disgusted’ by these ‘cold bloodied murders’, they should have been living in a state of total pathological self-loathing for centuries now, bearing in mind their truly appalling murderous track-record. Also, if their precious community is so serious about the ‘inviolability of every human life’, perhaps they could explain THAT to the hundreds of thousands of British girls that their ‘community’ has violated over the last few decades. And then the rest.

    The problem here is that these clowns know that they have now so seriously overstepped the mark that any support-base they may have managed to keep cobbled together with their ludicrously transparent confidence-trickery is now evaporating fast, and when the great British tolerance finally disappears altogether, their future in the UK is finished with it.

    • WPM says

      Jun 6, 2017 at 6:28 pm

      Every Terrorist who commit these acts the West should get the remains and publicly feed them to pigs .Put it on ever news network youtube ect. Make the statement that we will feed your remains to pigs! Then take all land, money ect from the terrorist families and deport them back to the sandbox. Take the Mosque that the Terrorist attended shut it down and deport the Imam! We try nice for 16 years after 911 lets try hard now nice did not work!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 7, 2017 at 3:30 am

      Some years ago, here at jihadwatch, one of the regulars (whose name, alas, I can’t recall at the moment) summed Islam up as “thuggery plus image management”.

      The three mohammedan mass-murderers the other day served up a huge dose of bloody thuggery.

      NOW the Mohammedan Mob is wheeling out the Image Managers, spouting flowery nothings and smiling greasily and weeping crocodile tears. This is *exactly* like the psycho domestic abuser who on Monday beats his wife to a pulp and on Tuesday professes to be oh-so-sorry and pretends to cry and buys her a box of chocolates and a bunch of flowers and tells her he loves her so much.

      And, in fact, on London bridge, some Turkish Mohammedans in London are doing exactly that: handing out flowers, in order to burnish the image of Islam.

      Frankly, if *I* encountered a smiling hijabi offering me a bunch of flowers on a spot where the blood had barely dried from the murders inflicted by Muslims howling “this is for Allah” and stabbing unarmed civilians to death in a ritualistic frenzy, I’d grab the flowers, rip the bouquet to pieces, and toss it into the river.

      If I were really brave, I’d look them in the eye, say, “Islam is thuggery plus image management. YOur late unlamented brothers did the thuggery the other day and here, right on cue, are you lot, flowers in hand, with the Image Management. Not buying, peeps.”

  11. mortimer says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    These 130 Islamic clergy are a tiny minority. Moreover, their declarations are clearly not in accordance with the canonical consensus of Islam.

    The doctrine of ISIS is the SAME doctrine as the official doctrine of Saudi Arabia.

    A former imam of the Grand Mosque in Mecca, Sheikh Adel al-Kalbani, has said that the Islamic State (IS) group follows the same brand of Islam as officially espoused by Saudi Arabia.

    “We follow the same thought [as IS] but apply it in a refined way,” he said. “They draw their ideas from what is written in our own books, from our own principles.”

    The cleric said that “we do not criticise the thought on which it (IS) is based”.

  12. Norger says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 5:38 pm

    The sanctity of human life is one of the foundations of Islam? Makes sense only if filthy kuffars don’t count as human per Islam (which they don’t).

    Here’s what Osama Bin Laden had to say about the “foundation” of Islam: “Battle, animosity and hatred–directed from the Muslim to the infidel–is the foundation of our religion. And we consider this a justice and kindness to them. The West perceives fighting enmity and hatred for the sake of religion as unjust, hostile and evil. But who’s understanding is right–our notions of justice and righteousness or theirs?”

  13. Ade says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 6:54 pm

    They have got a nerve ! .. There is no golden rule in islam
    Let’s work together to expose the truth about these lying toads

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 7, 2017 at 11:28 pm

      Your comment reminded me of a line from “The King and I.”. The king’s subjects would, in his presence, squat on the floor with their butts pointing toward the sky., exact!y as Moslems pray. Anna said to the king, “Toads! all of your people are toads.”. Muslims are indeed toads. They are not quite human.

  14. RodSerling says

    Jun 6, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    In response to 5:32 let’s reflect on another number, 5:43. On September 11th, 2001, at 5:43 a.m., a ticket agent working at the airport in Portland, Maine, thought that the two men standing in front of him “…looked like two Arab terrorists,” but he immediately “berated” himself for thinking of that “stereotype,” and so “did nothing.” We should not scapegoat that ticket agent for responding the way most Westerners would have responded. The fact is that Atta and co. should not have been in the U.S. in the first place, and it is our politically correct, naive, and ethically negligent polices that allowed those attacks and all subsequent jihad attacks on our soil.

    http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a543portlandcheckin

    The fact that we still, almost 16 years after 9/11, have to argue about Islamic propagandists’ dishonest presentation of Qur’an verse 5:32 in the mainstream media after jihad terrorist attacks, indicates how little progress we’ve made, at least at the levels of mainstream media, schools (at all levels), politics, and our many vital institutions (e.g., courts, police, intelligence, defense). For the most part, we’re still stuck like Bill Murray’s character in a “Groundhog Day” movie loop on this issue, despite the fact that a segment of the general public has become more educated on the topic.

    We’re still in this loop primarily because our institutions–especially our media, politicians, and academics–are stubbornly keeping us there. If we are stuck in this loop for another 16 years, with the ongoing massive migrant influxes and higher birthrates of Muslims compared to the extremely low birth rates of non-Muslim Westerners, we will have very large Muslim minorities in countries such as Sweden, Germany, France, the U.K., the Netherlands, Canada, and others. At that point, it will be practically impossible politically to halt and reverse Islamization, and Muslims will be the majority in these countries in the later half of this century. It is already extremely difficult to halt the problem, much less reverse it. It becomes more difficult to do so with each passing year, despite the fact that we–at least a segment of our society–are learning more and more about Islam.

    We need to drastically reduce the number of Muslims who are here. There is no way of getting around this, because there is no realistic prospect of Muslims in the West leaving Islam in large numbers. Reducing the number of Muslims can be done legally and humanely. It must be done if we are to survive as a people and a civilization. There are numerous ways to do this, and we can use more than one way, but the most obvious is that we need to halt immigration of Muslims until such a time as their countries of origin attain the “peace,” “moderation,” and respect for equality and human rights (e.g., for non-Muslim minorities), that apologists claim most Muslims want.

    We need to encourage our young adults that getting married and raising children (and to educate them properly) is one of the most important and meaningful things they can do with their lives. Those who do not have children can contribute in other ways such as through politics, education, etc., in the great project to revive the West.

    Currently, there’s no pressure for Muslims to reform Islam in the West. At the same time, our authorities pressure us to conform to Islam and to increasingly cruel, unusual, bizarre, and destructive politically correct demands from the sadistic/masochistic anti-Western Left.

    We need to keep up the criticism of Islam in public and make sure that criticism is well-grounded in facts and research, so that some people will be inclined to leave Islam and naive non-Muslims will stop defending it. The criticism has to be credible, accurate, and, when addressed to broad audiences, to be worded in a way that it has broad appeal. If you haven’t done the research yourself, cite a credible source who has. We need a Handbook for Educating non-Muslims, that has all the important points, backed up with evidence and citing primary sources and credible secondary sources who are as non-partisan and as rigorous as possible. The number of Muslims who will convert out of Islam and realign their allegiances from the Muslim ummah (i.e., their family and friends) to the West is so small that it is not worth pursuing much. The audience for our educational efforts should be almost entirely non-Muslims of reasonable mind who haven’t been educated on the topic yet or who have been misled. It is as much a waste of time to argue with the hard anti-Western Left as it is to argue with devout Muslims. Their goals are diametrically opposite to ours. The attainment of their goals requires our destruction and/or submission. The only purpose for engaging these hard opponents, if one must, is to educate a larger audience that may be witnessing the exchange. An educated audience would then put the necessary pressures on the system to correct its destructive course. We need our people in government, academia, and the mainstream media if we are to succeed.

    We need to bring in legislation specifically banning the use of elements of sharia that are contrary to our laws and values. (In terms of getting this across in the mainstream media and to the general public, which has been saturated with Islamic propaganda on the subject, we have to be very specific about what we are objecting to). We should list those elements, with references.

  15. No Fear says

    Jun 7, 2017 at 12:18 am

    Q 5:32 describes commands given to Israel, not muslims. It says “we decreed upon the Children of Israel” to be respectful of life. Q5:32 was not directed at muslims.

    Q 5:33 is more interesting and is directed at muslims: “Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment…….”

  16. sancho panza says

    Jun 7, 2017 at 6:18 am

    Over 130 imams from across the United Kingdom have said they will refuse to perform the traditional Islamic funeral prayer for the London and Manchester terror attackers.

    Here’s another fine example of ‘taquiyya’ as practiced by Muslims.

    For a Muslim who dies a normal death the ritual bath, the ritual shroud and the funeral prayers are obligatory for him to progress to ‘Jannah’. If these rites are not performed then he does not die as a Muslim and therefore cannot enter Paradise.

    The imams seem to be implying that by denying the funeral rites to the London and Manchester terrorists they are making them ineligible for Paradise. This is sheer deception. It is well established in Islamic theology that a ‘shaheed’ who is killed while slaying the infidels gets direct direct admission to Paradise sans ritual bath, shroud or prayers. Not for him, also, the purgatory period in the grave, the questioning by angels (Munkar, Nakir) or the passage over the Razor Bridge to get to Paradise. He gets a free pass because he slew and was slain (Q 9:111).

    Taquiyya at its best.

  17. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jun 7, 2017 at 7:23 am

    jihadi john,you lied for saying sura 5:32 was palagiarised from Talmud sandaherin 37a.the coincidence is due to the fact that Talmud sandaherin 37 has retained the unaltered part of the original Torah taught by prophet musa the prophet of Islam and having the same source who is Almighty Allah the creator of all.
    Note:Allah deliberately sent prophet Muhammad as unlettered knowing about such charge that he might have copied from jewish and christian scriptures not translated by then into Arabic the only language he spoke.it shows that the Quran is miraculous giving account of past events with accuracy and without contradiction. Even non_believers have agreed that it is the best book on the earth

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    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jun 7, 2017 at 9:40 am

      Nonsense.

      Sheer unmitigated nonsense-and-lies.

      Garbage

      There is not. one. shred of evidence to support your nonsense-and-lies. NOt one manuscript, not one inscription, nada, zero, zilch NOTHING.

      You are reversing reality.

      The Hebrew scriptures – **as they stand**, and also the Talmud – **predate** the invention of the ghastly parody – the hostile parody and hideous travesty – that is Islam.

      PS I’ve read your horrible Quran. It is one of the most boring, dull, and ugly books I’ve ever read. It’s chaotic, repetitious, and pure evil steams off every second page of it like heat from a volcano. (And the Sira and the Hadiths are worse).

      Most sane and decent non-Muslms who read your ‘book’ take a similar view of it.

  18. ibrahim itace muhammed says

    Jun 7, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    Dumbledoresarmy,your evil Talmud like filthy christian bible are mixture of some traces of what moses and jesus taught and much imported lies inspired by the satan you worship.Quran was revealed as criterion to determine what is true and what is false in your scriptures.Allah commanded you to leave the corrupted and take the Quran with absolute certainty;otherwise all of you will go to hell

    • Carolyne says

      Jun 7, 2017 at 11:35 pm

      Listen,Sparky. If obeying your book of evil gets me to paradise with the likes of you, I think I’ll pass.

  19. Peter Buckley says

    Jun 7, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    Please read your Quran properly, my friend, particularly verses like 10:94 and 5:47

    So if you are in doubt, [O Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord, so never be among the doubters. (Quran 10:94)

    So if, as you claim, Bible is corrupted, why is Allah telling Muhammad and people to read it ? According to Allah, it contains “the truth”. I have helped a number of muslims leave Islam who could not answer this simple question.

    Also, why would Allah include a line which would lead muslims to convert to Christianity?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlg_PwoffBQ

    I look forward to your response………….

    • ibrahim itace muhammed says

      Jun 8, 2017 at 7:39 am

      peter Buckley, you have misconceived verses 10:94,5:47,because you read them in isolation from other verses of the Quran.No muslim is denying the fact that christian and jewish scriptures contain some remnant of truth taught by moses and jesus.But they also contain some false doctrines that negate the basic doctrine of monotheism taught by prophets moses and jesus(As).In suratu Baqra and Aal Imran Allah specifically stated that those who said Allah is one of the three(trinity)and those who said jesus was God himself are indeed kuffar(infidels)and their abode is hellfire in the life hereafter.when some catholic Christian community from Najran in Yemen paid a courtesy visit to prophet Muhammad at madina and he allowed them to pray at his mosque,he told them that he can observe that their mode of prayer resembled that of jesus except that they missed the basic truth along the line that jesus was not God or son of God.These verses you referred to are talking about details in the christian and jewish scriptures ,which mostly correspond with what was being revealed in the Quran and pagan Arabs who were ignorant of these facts were told to confirm their accuracy from christians and jews who were in possession of the revealed books.so,mr peter you can only mislead ignorant muslims,not me.

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