They were probably wearing niqabs, which are much more common in Britain than burqas, but the Manchester Evening News says burqas. In any case, this is, in a nutshell, why Islamic face coverings should be outlawed — as a security measure. But that would be “Islamophobic.”
“Women disguised in burkas force way into flat and attack occupants with knives and hammer,” by Alexandra Rucki, Manchester Evening News, June 22, 2017:
Women wearing ‘burkas as a disguise’ forced their way into a flat and attacked the occupants inside with knives and a hammer, police say.
Police have arrested a 25-year-old woman on suspicion of attempted murder following the violent attack which took place on Tuesday evening.
Two women, described as wearing burkas, managed to get inside the flat on Eldon Street, in Oldham .
They attacked a 20-year-old woman, who was left with cuts to her arms and a deep knife wound to her torso.
A 19-year-old woman suffered from knife wounds to her left arm and armpit.
Both women were taken to hospital following the attack but are not believed to have suffered life-threatening injuries and are said to be in a stable condition.
Greater Manchester Police have recovered two knives and a hammer from the property.
Officer investigating the attack are keen to speak to the two women involved in the attack and are following a number of enquiries….
notmoron says
Britons deserve it.
G. Hardy says
That’s a pretty dumb comment, notmoron. Many, many of us know the truth about Islam and are campaigning to force the government to act. You cannot blame the British people for the government’s stupidity.
notmoron says
G. Hardy
Elections were two weeks ago.
Who the Britons vote for?
somehistory says
Blaming the victims…such as the two young women that were attacked in their home…is wrong. Put the blame where it belongs…on the moslums who did the crime.
The people do not deserve it, even if an advocate for moslums was *voted* into office.
Anne Smith says
That is a silly comment probably made from ignorance. Many of us in Britain have campaigned against the Government’s refusal to allow British people to protect their homes and families against intruders.
The Police now see themselves as a sort of social service rather than a law enforcement agency and do not really want to attend if there is a rough house or danger of violence. They do, however, rush in if they think a member of ;the public is taking the law into his/her own hands – a sense of trade unionism here. Until recently one was not even allowed to fight back against burglars but thanks to public disquiet and campaigning we are at least allowed to use reasonable force and the magistrates are taking a more sensible view. There is still a lot of work to be done.
Creole Gumbo says
I fear it will be too late by the time the work gets done.
Adele says
U lefttaed troll. no country or human deserves to be terrorised. The Worship of Allah “with love not terror”.
Bxgirl says
Yes, Robert. All face coverings should absolutely be banned for security purposes. Also, aren’t there many laws in place in US and in England against things such as polygamy etc? What can be done to force these laws to be followed?
Barguest says
Forcing muslims to follow the law (kuffar as opposed to sharia), perish the thought. To do so would be ‘bigoted’, ‘islamophobic’, no to mention ‘racist’. At least that’s how it is in most of Eurabia. Until the demos starts electing politicians who’ll actually condemn islam, rather than showing it deference it has in no way earned, nothing will change.
Former GI Joe says
There are, in the US, laws against polygamy. In fact, in order to be considered for statehood, Utah, a predominantly Mormon state, was required to outlaw polygamy even though the Mormon religion continued to promote the practice until the mid-20th century. In fact, the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints (FLDS) STILL promotes polygamy.
It is a state-level crime and must be investigated and prosecuted at that level. The federal government has no laws in its regard.
Rose M. Coveney says
Yes there are laws against polygamy in the U.S. However, our government in their wisdom gives “Welfare” support to wife number two, three etc. as AN EXTENDED MEMBER OF THE FAMILY. President Trump it’s time to stop this bull shit. Our original and as far as I know CURRENT immigration laws require immigrants to have a Sponcer. Not come here and live off the freaking land on our hard earned taxes. they don’t and won’t abide by our constitution and DON’T BELONG HERE. We have a bunch of greedy, self serving, stupid morons running our country. Time to clean the swamp.
Tom says
“When seconds they count
They’re just minutes away
When they arrive we all hear them say
Don’t worry we’ll catch them of that we assure
But how does that help the dead child on the floor”
The police are there merely to clean up the mess after the crime has been committed. People who are there at the time are the only means of protection for themselves and others, and yet self defence is not encouraged and in many cases the victim is charged with assault.
Now in this current climate of jihad attacks using all manner of weapons people must have the right to be able to defend themselves and others without fear of being criminally charged.
The means to identify an attacker are several, including the ability to describe an attackers facial features. Banning all facial coverings in public goes a long way to assisting in the capture and prevention of these types of attacks. so why isn’t it being done??
Logic dictates that it would make the arrest and subsequent incarceration of offenders a much easier task for police and the courts.
Anne Smith says
Even if face coverings were banned in public places that would not help this case where they would ignore the law anyway and go ahead with faces covered.
Ethel Red says
I have never had to use my firearm yet but am fully prepared to defend myself and my family if the Police cant arrive in a satisfactory time. I was never this way until events around the world caused me to realize our lives meant nothing to people whose Ideological beliefs would promote them to Paradise, especially if they took mine, as a non-believer. This also includes Junkies, and thieves. I remember the hero on the New York Subway (cant remember his name) and the 6 fellows started to physically harass him and he pulled out his 38 and shot them all. Good for him, although he did have a price to pay. I guess he was supposed to let these idiots have there way even if they killed him.
Covadonga says
Bernard Goetz? That was 1984.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
“When guns are out-lawed, only burka-clad women will have hammers…”
“When every Muslim has a hammer, evey infidel looks like a nail.”
If anyone thinks I’ve misappropriated any of these sayings, you’re confused. You can’t know the real text because you haven’t read them in the original Arabic.
somehistory says
When guns are outlawed, people are brought closer to death….by hammer and knife.
People are going to be involved in more hand to hand fighting for their lives…more people than ever before as the attacks like this grow in number.
If no weapon that works from a distance is allowed, then more tools already connected. to the would be victim are necessary and must be put to the best use. Self-defense is still possible, but must be learned and the people be aware of the dangers. Even if self-defense is against the law when defending against islm’s fanatics.
somehistory says
Too bad it wasn’t the newspaper editor, who is in favor of this sort of thing, living in that apartment.. He could have assisted them in attaching himself. It would have saved the two young women from injury and going to the hospital.
somehistory says
“attacking” himself. He is already “attached.”
Irene Brekelmans says
To Real Clear.
May be we couldn’t reed the real texts from the Qur’an in Arabic, but could you not read all the english with all the beautiful where all the muslims walk around with: We will conquer you, sharia law, we will kill you , we are taking over your country, we wil kill the Infidels, etc, that was as pure English as it came and you are telling us, we don’t understand the beauty of the Qur’an.
Everybody understands the English messages perfectly well, all over the world., and have seen meny videos about the.”religion of peace”
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
Irene,
I should have added a note that I was being sarcastic, and making a feeble attempt at insulting humor, at the expense of the so-called “religion” of Islam. My comment about people not understanding what I wrote was an effort to make fun of the Muslims who, when they can’t succeed in outright lying about the nature of their “religion”, resort to claiming that anyone who presents the true facts about Islam is simply confused, and misinterpreting their “sacred” texts, because, they claim, unless one can read them in their original Arabic, they cant be understanding the correct meaning.
I’ve read a number of your comments, and I agree with all of the ones I’ve read.
Thanks for taking the time to challenge my comment if you interpreted it as being in any way positive about Islam. I was attempting to point out how misguided the laws that prevent law-abiding cizens from the means of self-defense are, particularly in light of the Muslim invasion of Europe, and the increased jihadi attacks are.
kangi_yotaka says
Clear, *I* heard you loud and clear. I’ve noticed a lot more non-native English speakers on JW of late – say the last year or so – which is great, but sarcasm that comes through easily to a native speaker can be easily lost on a non-native one. I sympathize, because I have a pretty good command of several languages, in terms of vocabulary, but without being able to see body language, I often miss sarcasm in languages other than English.
(Also, you were twisting common English idioms, and idioms can be ridiculous prima facie in any language. Ever thought of ‘Put your money where your mouth is’ literally?)
Part of me wishes we didn’t need the /sarc tag, but given the growing (yay!) population of JihadWatchers around the globe – and quite a number probably can’t have similar sites in their native language (i.e. what happened in Germany this week) – I think there’s something to it, if only to keep everybody on the same page.
ItsReallyQuiteClear says
Thanks kangi_yotaka, I appreciate your taking the time to share those thoughts. I should make more use of a /sarc indicator.
What’s really funny, I think, is not just that I tried to make a clever play on English idioms, it’s that the Quran is so doubly twisted that any phrase that doesn’t appear to make sense could probably be passed off as being a quote from it.
For non-native English speakers, here’s what I meant:
“When guns are out-lawed, only burka-clad women will have hammers…”
Advocates of gun rights in the U.S. often point out that, when guns are outlawed, only criminals have guns. In this case, the Brits have very restrictive gun laws, and the Muslim women wielded knives and hammers as weapons against unarmed people. So I twisted the idiom a bit.
“When every Muslim has a hammer, evey infidel looks like a nail.”
There’s a logical principle called “The Law of the Instrument”, which basically says that people tend to over-rely on familiar tools. So if the only tool you have handy is a hammer, then there’s a tendency to convince yourself that it can be useful for whatever task is in front you. If the tool is a hammer, you may tend to use it to bang on a screw, rather than properly twist the screw, because that’s what the hammer is good for. In this case, the Muslims weaponized a hammer, and Muslims view all infidels in the same way: as sub-humans that they’re commanded by the Quran to kill, so they treat them all like “nails”, because the weapon at hand is a hammer.
Sorry all, for digressing from the primary point here: the Muslim attackers should have had knives and hammers turned on them.
kangi_yotaka says
I thought your plays on idioms were fantastic, personally – and yeah, somehow fitting for the quran.
As quota raven says,
Cheers
Guest says
Banning guns, does not destroy death.
Liz says
Sad. So Brits are not still safe even in their homes.
mennit says
remember folks!!!
Terrorism is only terrorism is white people do it!
Anything else and it is diversity and enrichment!