“One of the real gifts that Islam brings is an understanding of what it is to have a country with diverse religious viewpoints,” stated Rev. Dr. David B. Lindsey on June 11 at the Little River United Church of Christ (UCC) in Northern Virginia. Befitting the declining UCC’s leftwing, anti-Israel politics, his roseate understanding of Islam set the tone for Little River UCC’s biased, superficial presentation on “Faith in Film: Refugees and Islamophobia.”
A small group of about 25 middle-aged or older listeners watched three short films in the Little River UCC sanctuary followed by a discussion between Lindsay and Zainab Arain from the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR). Growing Home, a film about a barber who fled Syria’s civil war to a Jordanian refugee camp, opened the evening, followed by the screening of a Hague TED lecture by the film’s director, Faisal Attrache. The evening’s final film was a new release, the short film Searching the Skies, from the Seventh Art Stand (SAS), a “nationwide screening and discussion series” intended “as an act of cinematic solidarity against Islamophobia.”
Searching the Skies’ eight minutes depict an American couple hosting a Syrian refugee family for a Christmas dinner along with the couple’s college-aged nephew who expresses hostility towards the refugee’s “all backwards” Islamic faith. The couple’s decision to avoid offending the religious sensibilities of the Muslim guests by fixing a salmon Christmas dinner instead of their usual ham beloved by the nephew only accentuates his animosity. Yet the couple incongruously appears to drink wine at the dinner table, even though Islam prohibits consumption of both alcohol and pork while the nephew had suggested offering both ham and salmon.
While largely poor, ill-educated refugees from Syria and other Muslim-majority countries currently confront Western countries with enormous social welfare costs, the film presents ideal refugees. The Syrian man, his veiled wife, and young boy and girl appear to come from middle-class backgrounds. With the nephew the man discusses how he was a professor in Syria while the American wife notes that he has received a new job at a catering company.
Intellectually as well as materially the Syrian refugees make a good impression, as the former professor surprises the nephew with the Syrian’s familiarity with Christmas. The professor notes that “Damascus is a very diverse city and most of our friends are Christian.” Christmas “is the favorite time of the year for us. In Syria always everybody gathers around the table, the families, and everyone is celebrating, going out, and dancing and music, it is wonderful.”
The professor’s Yuletide joy gives a false impression of Christian-Muslim interfaith harmony in the Middle East. In Syria’s civil war, most Christians and other non-Muslim religious minorities support the brutal Assad family dictatorship, under which Christians have enjoyed relative religious freedom, while fearing the jihadist-dominated rebel opposition. Moreover, most Muslims in the Middle East and around the world do not celebrate Christmas given the Islamic understanding of Jesus as a mere prophet. Some Muslims have even warned that any recognition of Christmas (such as a Christmas greeting) violates Islam.
The film further deflects attention from jihadist violence by focusing on Assad regime atrocities. The film depicts the refugee family’s son at the dinner table coloring a picture of a warplane bombing a house and closes with the refugee children screaming at the sound of an overflying jetliner. Such scenes focus viewer attention on indiscriminate Assad regime airstrikes, often used to facilitate ethnic cleansing of regime opponents, as opposed to similar brutality from anti-Assad jihadists.
Examination of SAS links to resources like the anti-Israel, pro-Arab media critic Jack Shaheen explains Searching the Skies’ biases. To understand Islamic doctrine, the SAS relies upon the Ahmadiyya, considered heretical by most Muslims, and their True Islam website with questionable apologetics on matters like Islam’s oppressive dhimmi status for non-Muslims. Meanwhile the film’s director, Vivian Hua, writes that she is:
…[a] writer and interdisciplinary artist who, in true Sagittarius fashion, resides in Los Angeles but frequently lands in the Northwest. (My heart resides forever in Seattle, where I feel I have lived many lifetimes.)
Lindsay’s post-screening discussion at Little River UCC had little more factual basis than Hua’s astrology tables, as he praised Islam’s “notion of the People of the Book,” actually a subjugated status for Jews, Christians, and others. He reprised myths of Islamic Spain’s multicultural harmony, Christian martyrs notwithstanding, while stating that “Christians, Jews, and Muslims could live together in societies that are majority-Muslim, in Al Andalus, for example.” While he reflected on his ancestors expelling Jews from England in the 13th century, he counterfactually imagined Islam as a more tolerant faith than Christianity, stating that:
…we are still learning in Christianity 2,000 years on. We have in our scriptures understandings of how to treat folks who are guests, folks who may have emigrated from other countries, folks who may be refugees, but somehow we still haven’t cultivated a kind of normative way of honoring folks and allowing folks to just simply be.
Lindsay received a brief reality check from an Iraqi Christian woman in the audience at Little River UCC who noted hearing in Growing Home the Islamic Fatiha prayer. She reflected on regular recitations in mosques across America of this prayer, often interpreted throughout Islamic history as condemning Jews and Christians. She stated that many hostile Quran verses say that non-Muslims “are infidel and we should be killed.”
The woman’s comments drew from Lindsay and other audience members at Little River UCC the hackneyed false equivalence between the Bible’s violent passages and Islamic jihad doctrine. “There has been an extraordinary amount of violence in Christian history endorsed by our scriptures, not least of which was slavery,” he stated. He left unaddressed Islam’s far worse record of slavery, a crime that is actually incompatible with the Bible’s true spirit, as detailed analysis and early Christian abolitionist arguments demonstrate.
Arain’s response to the Iraqi Christian was rather rich, given that CAIR is a radical Islamist organization and Hamas-derived terrorism financing unindicted co-conspirator. She advised the Iraqi Christian not to “cherry pick things out of context” in the Quran, consistent with her previous rejection of an “Islamophobic categorization of Islam as inherently violent” and a “racialised religion.” Using well-worn Orientalism tropes, she wrote that such an outlook “is rooted in European colonization, and has been transplanted and utilized by the U.S. to justify its foreign policy in Muslim-majority regions of the world.”
Arain and Lindsay’s presentation is not surprising given the UCC’s cooperation nationally with CAIR, such as in co-production of a 90-second video on interfaith relations between a Jewish rabbi, a Christian pastor, and a Muslim imam. The clergy trade places in their houses of worship (although the female rabbi preaches in a church, not a mosque) and discuss a common “commitment to the Ten Commandments” and the “importance of marriage and the family.” The video does not discuss Muslim views of the UCC’s commitment to LGBT agendas like same-sex “marriage” or Jewish and Christian views of Muslim polygamy. On a local level, Little River UCC has certainly pleased CAIR by supporting Washington, DC’s Voices from the Holy Land film festival, a contribution to UCC support for Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) against Israel.
Lindsay’s UCC, its relationship with CAIR, and the film screenings at Little River UCC reflect modern distortions of biblical beliefs that have distinguished Western civilization. Christianity’s emphasis on critical reflection upon and repentance for one’s own sin as well as concern for loving strangers has sometimes resulted in a Western self-negation paired with uncritical acceptance of foreigners. Yet attacks in Europe by Muslim refugees upon Christian refugees indicate the dangers of projecting values cultivated in the West upon foreign cultures that might not reciprocate such love and humility.
Cross-posted from Juicy Ecumenism.
Neil Jennison says
The bugger clearly has brain damage.
p says
Lets buy him a ticket to Syria to lead the flock over there.
Get the Flock out of here!
Jack R Maxwell says
What motivates the left is the need for high self esteem. Feeling good about yourself supersedes any connection to the actual consequences of your actions. So, because Mohammed invoked Jewish and Christian elements it’s deemed by the naive left as an Abrahamic religion and therefore compatible with our faiths. Such wishful thinking is dangerous because it’s clear in the Koran and the Haddith that Islam strives to be, in its core documents, a supremacist faith that will not stop using whatever it takes to to dominate. Some churches, thinking they can reverse their drift into obscurity with aging congregations by being hip, have sold their spiritual souls to the dark side and excused the evils in front of them. Saint Peter warned of such. So, we have got to try with gentleness, as Peter also said, to try and show them their errors. But since life is a test of our free will, the choice is theirs.
Godwin says
More progressive, my foot ! More aggressive is the fact.
notmoron says
Hitler used the leftards loon to occupy Europe and now Muslims will use them to dig their own grave. The leftards are the the first Enemy of Western world.
SAM says
Yes.
Westman says
It was true that the US and Europe received merit-based Muslim immigrants of a high calibre since the 1950’s. That experience of limited numbers was named the “Brain Drain”. The hijrah today could be accurately described as the immigration of the “Brain Drained”.
Eventually, the corporations, the entities creating private profits at the expense of the public’s liabilities, who are driving this openness to get cheap labor, will dump the unemployables on the public coffers.
Budvarakbar says
The “brain drain” was the upper classes from those turd world countries whose mission was to create an exterior ‘shell’ or ‘camouflage’ for the Trojan horse — now they are bringing in all the filler — and the rotten treasonous government and compromised pseudo Christian churches are spreading them all around the country in ‘depressed’ areas especially and setting up the cells —
boakai ngombu says
they are on track to INTEGRATE not assimilate within the host culture. to integrate their many false notions of morality and replace whatever exists where they move.
for instance: i understand that a proper relationship before God starts with the One God and includes His magnificent work within the relationship He establishes. there is constant forgiveness and understanding extended by the One God to the believer.
the adherents seek to replace that.
the slave to the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) – which bears little responsibility for the relationship- the slave lives in fear of offending and being out of favor, finding little hope of appreciation and blessing from this harsh god. and they are constrained to follow and emulate a rapist a slave owner, a murderer, an adulterer. a pedophile.
Tim says
Integrated is a better word than assimilate, but I suggest a more dangerous word—infiltrate.
mgoldberg says
I don’t believe in forced commitment unless of course, people are indeed a danger to themselves or others, but forced confrontation and videography so that others can view dangerous views by ‘leaders’
should be stressed for education and innoculation against uniformed views dangerous to others.
To whit: “One of the real gifts that Islam brings is an understanding of what it is to have a country with diverse religious viewpoints,” stated Rev. Dr. David B. Lindsey on June 11 at the Little River United Church of Christ (UCC) in Northern Virginia”
Indeed… one of the most utterly false views, and expressions has just been uttered by ‘the revererand’ and this is indeed something so false, so obviously false that it needs refutation before it is taken by anyone as some objective historical fact… which it clearly is not.
gravenimage says
United Church of Christ Congregation: Islam More Progressive than Christianity
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What could possibly be more “progressive” than throwing gay people off tall buildings, “marrying” small children, and stoning rape victims to death?
More:
“One of the real gifts that Islam brings is an understanding of what it is to have a country with diverse religious viewpoints,” stated Rev. Dr. David B. Lindsey…
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Well, yeah. Here’s how pious Muslims reacted to the diversity of having Yezidis and Christians under their power:
“Islamic State jihadists force starving Yazidi sex slave to eat her own baby”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/06/islamic-state-jihadists-force-starving-yazidi-sex-slave-to-eat-her-own-baby
Is *that* the sort of thing the good reverend had in mind?
Paul Ashley says
“Well, yeah. Here’s how pious Muslims reacted to the diversity of having Yezidis and Christians under their power:”
And don’t forget Saudi Arabia, the home of Islam and its gold standard for society, where no other religions are allowed.
vlparker says
One of the real gifts that Islam brings is an understanding of what it is to have a country with diverse religious viewpoints.
Of course, that doesn’t apply in muslim countries because there are no diverse religious viewpoints, or if there are the people holding them live in fear of they’re lives. The reverend forgot to mention that.
Terry says
Not only no divergent religious viewpoints (from being of a different religion)-if one is not Muslim enough, that is enough to get one killed.
jaslbird1 says
Not surprising at all. Many so-called Christian churches are anything but that. We have an imitation church near us that refuses to reference Easter. It is a Spring Festival. Talk about fake Christianity.
moeped says
I didn’t read this article, I was laughing way too hard from the headline alone.
Progressive!!! Hahahaha. Yes definitely more progressive in terms of Jihad (which we all know is simply an internal struggle of faith, love and fellowship)
Andrew E Harrod says
You will have more laughs if you read. Try to contain yourself.
Salome says
If I want to be grateful for religious diversity in my country, which now has only 52% of respondents tick any sort of Christian box in the census, then I’ll reserve my gratitude for Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, traditional Aborigines and all other faith groups but Muslims.
A Lee says
Yes, these “inclusive progressives” some to forget Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, traditional Aborigines and all other faith groups but Muslims. I’m grateful for Sikhs in our community, too.
Monty says
I’d hate to see what “regressive” is like. There is so much cherry picking going on you could open a fruit store. Let’s find the least understood and potentially inoffensive verses in the Koran. Let’s find Muslims who are genuinely non-violent and manage to get on with non-Muslims. Let’s make them the gold standard for Islam. Let’s ignore everything both written and in experience that would spoil our cherry coloured view of Islam. Then we STILL cannot find any evidence that Islam is in any way progressive! Perhaps UCC is less progressive than Islam but that organisation does NOT speak for 2.5 billion Christians, especially the few left living in Muslim countries. Dr Lindsay should be examined by a psychiatrist. He is utterly deluded.
somehistory says
David B. Lindsey may have a *doctorate* ..most likely in arrogance and stupidity…but he is not worthy of being revered. So label him with Dr. but leave off the Rev.
Christ set the standard, the perfect example, the perfect pattern for humans to follow to their best ability, asking for help from our Creator to do better. Whatever He commanded is the very best that could be commanded; there is nothing better.
God does not want anyone to be as moslums choose to be, or to do the things that these sons and daughters of demons do.
To bring them into ones place of worship, defiles that place. To laud them as those whom should be imitated, is to deny the validity of what Christ taught and to refuse His Divine Mercy and Blessing.
What these people are doing is not Christian. It is not pleasing to Christ or His Father. The Bible clearly shows what is pleasing to our Heavenly Father. It condemns communing with satan. It condemns lying.
What moslums give…is a *gift* that the sane person, the reasoning person, refuses. This is especially true of Christians. Christians refuse what islum and its adherents have to offer…to force, to demand, to whine, to manipulate others to do and accept.
Lauding islum and moslums is more than disgusting. It is demonic.
Santa Voorhees says
This church is clearly on the leftist-jihadi alliance payroll.
Barry Donnelly says
The hiss of the serpent , the voice of apostasy !
Terry says
RE: The FEMALE RABBI.
ONLY REFORM JEWS, which are the LEAST traditional, have women Rabbis. And, many of them (I have only met a few) (so this could be inaccurate) are liberal.
Orthodox Jews, and even many not orthodox, are NOT liberals.
Terry says
The Iraqi woman is accused of cherry picking verses. What the hell were the others doing in using the Bible to prove points?
Terry says
Before the election (it might have been on a JW post-not sure) one person wrote that Northern VA. is heavily dependent upon the Federal Government. Perhaps that is why it is so liberal-all the deep state assholes living on the government trough.
tedh754 says
So how did the Muslims take over Spain? Were they voted in? Could it have been through violence?
Lydia says
If the death penalty exists today for murderers, etc., then how can they complain about it in the Bible?
It is totally different from what they still do today against those with different BELIEFS in muslim countries! And slavery was just what was going on with people getting indebted to others and working off the debt. It is not really that different than what we see today in the world. They did not beat the slaves, and there is nothing condoning mistreatment. What happened in the U.S. is not related to that and of course that was a crime, true Christians worked against slavery here and even helped rescue slaves from the South to the North (the Underground Railroad), for those interested in doing that research.
In 1 John 4; 8 we read:
“Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.”
John A. Marre says
I often wondered why liberals reject Christianity and in its place give their full love and affection to Islam. I believe it’s because liberals hate this country, which they interpret as White and Christian, and so they hate Whites and Christians. It’s only natural then for them to love and adore Islam, a violent ideology that promises to wipe out Christianity and Whites.
Wellington says
Much of current Christianity has gone into seemingly dumb-down mode. I’m surprised by this since Christian theology is neither dumb nor supine. The Christian faith may, in the final analysis, not be in accord with ultimate reality but this would hardly equate to it being stupid or obsequious. Yet much of it presently seems exactly this per Christian leadership in our time (think first and foremost here Pope Francis).
So, I see here betrayal of Christianity by many Christian leaders in our age. Yes, it’s gotten this bad. And that most parasitic of unworthy beneficiaries is waiting in the wings due to this. I of course refer to that giant leach which is the Islamic faith. No greater leach has ever existed. No greater self-pitying ideology either.
Not good——–a pale version of Christianity combined with a newly invigorated Islam. Only trouble from this combination can ensue. Indubitably.
Paul Ashley says
Well put, Wellington!
mortimer says
PROGRESSIVE OR WHAT? Fun facts about Islam for Rev. David B. Lindsay:
1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of supremacism 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Circular reasoning 9 Misogyny – repression of women 10 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 11 Genocide 12 Ethnic cleansing 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 16 Backwardness – stagnation 17 Violence against women 18 Slavery 19 Discriminatory Sharia law 20 Hatred of the arts 21 No music 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Amoral, opportunistic character of Mohammed that all Muslims must imitate.
Wellington says
Excellent list, mortimer, but you left out “No beer” (this is where long ago it got real personal like for me).
Joe says
I have never heard of the 10 commandments in the Koran. They claimed a “commitment” to the 10 commandments. A quick Google search confirms that they are not in the Koran. For hundreds of years, Muslim leaders have led “raiding” parties that steal, kill, and take slaves which they used for sex. That violates the 5th, 6th, 7th, 9th, and 10th commandments as an order from the head of their religion who is also the head of the raiding party. Mohammed, himself, is a perfect example. Those activities are still central to Muslims in Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, Pakistan, Indonesia, and in nearly all other cases that have Muslim populations. I see no “commitment” to the 10 commandments. A “commitment” to the 10 commandments is not part of Muslim tradition.
Other than Islam, I have not been exposed to a “religion” that claims God is a pimp which is central to Islamic jihad. Other people might fight for what they believe is right, but Muslims fight for sex. For Muslims, Heaven is a divine brothel. Doesn’t this concept put sex before God? That is a core belief in Islam, and it violates the first commandment.
The Koran has a significant length. If various passages are stitched together, the 10 commandments might be approximated. Yet, that is far from a commitment. The Koran does not have a single place committed to the 10 commandments, so the 10 commandments are not central to Islam.
mike ryan says
The good reverend is obviously lacing his communion wafers with LSD.
Boston Tea Party says
As a Christian myself, I just see this as another example of the pervasive influence of postmodern cultural relativism. C.S. Lewis clearly saw all of this coming when he wrote “The Abolition of Man” in the 1940’s.
We’re at a place now where many people who profess the Christian faith believe that Christianity is “good”, but they don’t really believe that it’s true.
Richie says
The United Church of Christ is one of the most hard left Christian denominations you will find . Their branch in my town of course has the gay rainbow flag flying high and the black lives matters banner in front above the door. Expect the teaching of Jesus to gave been cast aside
Richie says
I should also add this church is indeed RABIDLY antisemitic
How can this church concider itself to be followers of Jesus Christ??
newUser says
This is not a Christian church. I see their membership is declining. Probably they are hoping for some money from CAIR, or saudis or whatever.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/atheist-united-church-minister-starting-new-secular-community-in-toronto/article33442894/
http://www.cbc.ca/news/thenational/gretta-vosper-the-atheist-minister-1.3507832
Richie says
an atheist minister? I have to credit her for honesty, as this denomination does NOT follow the teachings of Jesus. More of them should come out an admit they couldn’t care less about Jesus- rather than PRETEND they follow Jesus
Paul Ashley says
Why would an atheist need an organization?
Richie says
to destroy the church from within
Richie says
Sadly many Christians such as myself have been driven away from the churches as the cancer of leftist propaganda has poisoned everything and diluted the teachings of Jesus Christ.
Musalmaanmasala says
I think that Rev. Dr. David B. Lindsey has his head so far up his …. that he cannot see all that is written in the koran about the “people of the book”
I think it would be a great idea to check his bank accounts and find out how he is being funded and by whom and which front organisation.
Bharat Mehta says
Here is opinion about Islam from most valid person, Mustafa Kamel Pasha, who is famous for secularizing Turk by destroying Islam. His opinion gain more weight as he was born Muslim and once servant in Caliph’s military, and obey all Islamic jihad order, but grew up with his own study and arrive at firm conviction that Islam is poisonous theology. Check his work using Goggle search engine. here is one link…..
http://lostislamichistory.com/how-ataturk-made-turkey-secular/
nicholas tesdorf says
These ignorant fools are digging their own graves, to save the Muslims the bother.
Bob says
And digging our graves, as Christians, while he’s at it! Going back a few letters, I remember a mention of a pastor – denomination not to be mentioned! – using the plain statement that Jesus arose early in the morning as the basis for a spouting about the advantages of getting up early in the morning with the Lord Jesus not actually mentioned for the entire spouting!
duh swami says
Selling out Jesus to please Allah…What can possibly go wrong?
FYI says
One of the real gifts that Reason brings is an understanding of what it is to have idiotic clergymen like “reverend” Lindsey sabotaging and undermining their own religion.
I never trust clergymen of any denomination, be they “reverends”,”fathers” or “vicars”.
They make excellent false prophets;usually hiding behind a mask of great public piety.
Just because someone like a priest appears holy on the outside means nothing.
Never be fooled by outward shows of piety by any “holy man” of any religion..Some may even hide behind a mask of charity and friendliness..
“..on the outside you appear good to everybody,but inside you are full of hypocrisy and sin”
{Matthew 23 v 28}
And what appearance do they show and how do you recognize them?
“Be on your guard against false prophets:they come to you looking like sheep on the outside;but on the inside they are really like wild wolves.You will know them by what they do.Thorn bushes do not bear grapes and briars do not bear figs.
A healthy tree produces good fruit,but a poor tree bears bad fruit”
{Matthew 7 v 15-16}
If you compare any clergyman to a fruit tree..
Ask yourself what fruit do these clerygmen bear?
Do they preach the actual truth or do they merely wish to talk about theology?
(A doctorate in theology is worthless to God….).
What does pope francis produce?
Nothing but thorns:francis, who constantly undermines Catholics and Christians with his false statements whilst knowing perfectly well that allah is never to be equated with God.He knows this perfectly well because he is an educated Jesuit.
We see his close friend cardinal Pell in the news:a man who was appointed by francis himself and elevated to a position of power in the Vatican.See what thorns Pell has produced:his fruit is rotten.
The Whitest of Whited Sepulchres in Rome,francis the betrayer of Europe,Christians and Catholics…who is always dressed in white so you might mistakenly think he’s a holy man and one of the good guys…
Be wary of clergymen…..in any denomination.
There is a public show of piety and apparent holiness but there is most certainly an inner show of dishonesty too.
What fruit does the clergyman bear?
There is an outer show and there is an inner show going on.
But does the clergyman produce good fruit or bad fruit?
Is he scattering his own flock?
Is he all nice and friendly?Do not confuse apparent niceness with sincerity.
That’s how many clergymen operate.
Bharat Mehta says
Religious person is not civilized mind, it is product of typical barbarous vision. To believe in any non-entity, like God-Ghost-Satan is barbarous, gypsy way of using mind and intellect.
The fall of civilization, I meant Western Civilization is due to Islam exclusively, but its Bible–Christianity, that has encourage Islam. Hindu Civilization was destroyed by Islam but there are two main religion–Buddh and Jain, act as supporting cause. Indian king started to support religion, in turn king became cowered before religious principle of non-violence–Jain and Buddha and principle of Violence….Islam.. They loss their vision about civilized life. Nazism is not intellectual product, but Islamic product, that make Hitler to use Islam as war weapon.
Please give serious thought on my arguments.
Paul Ashley says
These “progressive” “Christians” are idiots. The Bible does not actively promote slavery as does the Quran and violence in the Old Testament is limited in both time and space. What seminaries do these people attend?
isntlam says
LOL. I love crazy stories about the UCC. The United Cult of Crazy.
ConofChi says
The road to hell is paved with good intentions!!
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
“Church of Christ” i.e., Protestants who wouldn’t know Christianity if it bit them in the backside. I’m not surprised.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Sadly, there are some in Christianity which long for the ”Crusades”, the ”Inquisitions”, and other such genocides, as the ”good ol’ days”, and such war-mongering, self-hating, capitulating Christians are an insult to those peaceful Christians.
gravenimage says
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Ric says
The United Church of Christ is suffering from psychopathy, more so, a spiritual crisis that is a certainty uttering such unconscionable and imbecilic statement. It would be laughable if the opposite were not the factual reality; Islam is a cult of intolerance, a cult of inhumanity, not the religion of peace but unchecked barbarity. Islam is bent on dragging humankind back into a new Darl-Age dead or alive, likely the former. Apparently, some Christian sects are rife in the psychotic throes of the radicalized-Left and Radicalized Islam. It would serve this so-called Church of Christ best if they tossed out the Bible in exchange for the Quran and a prayer mat. This planet is amok with nutters with a parasitical flair.
Stan Lee says
I do not see Islam as beneficial, based upon the Pastor’s opinion. In any land where Islam has the highest religious population, other faiths are targets of Islamic mortal violence whenever Islam decides to abide by what is directed by Islam’s koran against non-believers, which to be absolutely clear are all religions OTHER THAN ISLAM. Rev. Lindsay and congregation enjoy the status of freedom of religion because he preaches in the United States. He, his religion, and entire congregation would be banned in Saudi Arabia and we can be sure in other Muslim-dominated lands. And, that includes carrying one’s own Christian bible into ardent Muslim lands. For as much hatred as is written in the koran against the Jews, because of our Constitution does Islam openly disregard Islam’s hatred of Jews….in the United States of America. Not because Islam is suddenly a believer in freedom of religion, but because Islam doesn’t feel ready to act against Jews here, as it acts against Christians in Egypt, Syria, and Turkey among others.
Tershia says
Plain and simple, this Rev is an apostate and a wolf in sheep’s clothing, both kinds on the increase in these end times.
Christians need to know the Truth in order to recognize the fake.
dammad says
“A small group of about 25 middle-aged or older listeners ” Adding the age range is audience disparagement.
In the original and best “War of the Worlds” movie there is a scene at the landing sight of the first ship where minister approaches the ship in the spirit of peace and gets blown away. This is what those who think Islam has anything to do with accepting others and peace. The peace they wish on infidels is he peace of death and they are excellent at it. They’ve had 1400 years of practice.
tpog says
Excellent points, GI. You can also add the slaughter of Greeks prior to the Armenian Genocide as well.
ibrahim itace, you are the ultimate in idiocy.
If your muslim brethren are anything like you, it’s completely understandable why your countries are still stuck in the 7th century and will remain there. When will you realize that improving the lives of your citizens (giving them an education, for a start) will ultimately make muslim countries stronger. If this was done it wouldn’t be necessary for your citizens to flock in the thousands to the West.
If you muslims hate the West this much go back to your hell holes and try to IMPROVE LIFE for your people rather than the muslim-on-muslim violence that you people seem to prefer
ibrahim itace, give it a rest and come back when you can string together two rational thoughts!!!
Jim Morgan says
The would make excellent dhimmis.
Bharat Mehta says
There is no point in comparing Christianity and Islam–both are born from same one root–asceticism. India gave two ascetic religion which has non-violance way–Jain and Buddha—–all these four main ascetic ideologies has create political left wing, permit all form of terrorism. As religion means terrorism.
Civilization is needed to be free from all or any form of religious idealism….includes…..communism/socialism….left wing, which is rooted from religious idealism…