“Because You Asked: What’s the Difference Between Taqiyya and Tawriya?”: An ATP Report Production – in this episode, Anni Cyrus explains the details of different ways that lying is allowed and advocated under Sharia.
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Lon Spectorsays
The outcome of this death struggle will determine whether there really is a God and if He
keeps His promises. Either the the flag of Islam will fly over Washington D.C. or the
American flag will fly over D.C. Civilization or a ash heap. There is no middle ground.
Kaysays
Which promises of God are you referring to?
Tershiasays
John 16:33,
“I have told you these things, so that in me you will have peace, In this world you will have trouble. But take heart. I have overcome the world.”
Matthew 16:18
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it.” – among others
John A. Marresays
There’s enough justification right there to keep 100% of them out.
mortimersays
“Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…” – former sheikh Sam Solomon
Good description of this important issue by Anni Cyrus.
mortimersays
All Muslims use taqiyya concerning the JIHAD DOCTRINE by concealing it, denying it or lying about it. If any Muslim does NOT lie about JIHAD, he has left Islam.
There are SIX DIFFERENT WAYS of deception that are permissible in Islam: 1) taqiyya, 2) kitman, 3) tawriya, 4) taysir, 5) darura, 6) muruna
•Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam.
•Kitman: deceit by omission.
•Tawriya: deceit by ambiguity.
•Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not having to observe all the tenets of Sharia).
•Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden).
•Muruna: the temporary suspension of Sharia to make Muslim migrants appear “moderate.”
Furthermore, through the principle of ‘hijra’ (Muslim immigration), the first Muslims to enter a territory lay a red herring of ‘peaceful Islam’. The first ‘peaceful’ Muslim immigrants actually constitute a Trojan horse. The Kafir or Kufaar community gets the false sense that the early immigrants are not a threat, at least not until the Muslim community has gained strength of numbers. When Muslims become strong, they aggressively begin to demand Sharia law against the will of the kafir victims of supremacism. This creeping persecution against the host culture begins and continues until Islam becomes the supreme and unanswerable political ideology in the territory. When the territory becomes officially Islamic, the persecution of non-Muslims goes into full gear to humiliate and inconvenience them to the extent that they will convert to Islam in order to avoid Islam’s official policy of persecution. Jihad is warfare against disbelievers. Deception is a huge part of jihad.
Allah is the greatest deceiver – “Allahu khayru al-makireena” – K. 3:54; cf. 8:30
R Russellsays
The 4 stages of Islamic Conquest explain your very good points.
Jackiekcsays
You are so right. We have seen this in our community when we were invited to attend services at a mosque. All was sweetness and light, but one just has to look at conditions elsewhere when the Muslim community is more than 10 per cent of the population and the talk changes. The sweetness disappears.
underbed catsays
Deception was the ingenious method used in the doctrine, to appear as victims, bring people into Islam and cover for the brutality and the goal of conquest. Without it, the doctrine would be seen as a threat so the hijra, mass migration, would be resisted by the target country. The peacefulness only lasts so long, in the end it is a invasion.
isabella van der westhuizensays
A Muslim must always tell the truth
To another Muslim
Mikesays
But the other muslim know so well muslims lies that he will have more faith in what a non-muslim say than in a muslim.
Voytek Gagalkasays
As expressed so on numerous occasions, Anni Cyrus NEVER EVER describes herself as being “ex-Muslim.” So why this misleading headline nevertheless states to the contrary?
vlparkersays
If I’m not mistaken, Anni does not consider herself an ex-muslim. I believe she claims to never have been a muslim because she had no say in the matter.
John Fofrbessays
The real issues for us all is the utter determination of Western Governments to both BELIEVE & TROT out the same nonsense (or deny their possible knowledge)
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE FOLLOWED BY VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM !
All Western Democracies must DEMAND that this NONSENSE stop !\\
ISLAM & its abusive teachings & Behaviour must be confronted & challenged ! OR we are ALL in for SHARIA & eventually a loss of Democracy !
Only the one true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will defeat Islam.
The God of David. The God of us all.
Because the world chooses not to.
TheBuffstersays
Hi, Anni.
Awhile back I listened to former Muslim Hashim Almadani’s video about “taqiyya”, and he says that the word is of a much narrower meaning than is usually used in the anti-jihad movement. It’s not lying for the sake of Islam, but simply lying to protect oneself from deadly consequences for being a Muslim or a particular sect of Muslim.
I asked Hashim if he means that it’s against Islamic doctrine to lie for the cause of Islam, and he said no, but the name for that lying is not “taqiyya”.
I’ve heard this from other sources a couple of times. I’m not sure who’s right about this. But I want to get it right.
All this nonsense is based on the acceptance of faith as a means of obtaining knowledge. It is not. It is unquesitong belief , in other words it comes from imagination. Wipe out his false premise and the issue of the intricacies of Islam becomes just so much trivia.
paulsays
Any infidel who has read the Qur’an from front to back will conclude the obvious: Islam is as far from a religion of peace as one could possibly get. 109 distinct exhortations to Jihad…kill unbelievers for Allah and Muhammed. Any other conclusion is bullshit.
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Lon Spector says
The outcome of this death struggle will determine whether there really is a God and if He
keeps His promises. Either the the flag of Islam will fly over Washington D.C. or the
American flag will fly over D.C. Civilization or a ash heap. There is no middle ground.
Kay says
Which promises of God are you referring to?
Tershia says
John 16:33,
“I have told you these things, so that in me you will have peace, In this world you will have trouble. But take heart. I have overcome the world.”
Matthew 16:18
“And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell will not overcome it.” – among others
John A. Marre says
There’s enough justification right there to keep 100% of them out.
mortimer says
“Taqiyya permeates almost all the activities and dealings of Muslims with non-Muslim societies…” – former sheikh Sam Solomon
Good description of this important issue by Anni Cyrus.
mortimer says
All Muslims use taqiyya concerning the JIHAD DOCTRINE by concealing it, denying it or lying about it. If any Muslim does NOT lie about JIHAD, he has left Islam.
There are SIX DIFFERENT WAYS of deception that are permissible in Islam: 1) taqiyya, 2) kitman, 3) tawriya, 4) taysir, 5) darura, 6) muruna
•Taqiyya (Shia) or Muda’rat (Sunni): tactical deceit for the purposes of spreading Islam.
•Kitman: deceit by omission.
•Tawriya: deceit by ambiguity.
•Taysir: deceit through facilitation (not having to observe all the tenets of Sharia).
•Darura: deceit through necessity (to engage in something “Haram” or forbidden).
•Muruna: the temporary suspension of Sharia to make Muslim migrants appear “moderate.”
Furthermore, through the principle of ‘hijra’ (Muslim immigration), the first Muslims to enter a territory lay a red herring of ‘peaceful Islam’. The first ‘peaceful’ Muslim immigrants actually constitute a Trojan horse. The Kafir or Kufaar community gets the false sense that the early immigrants are not a threat, at least not until the Muslim community has gained strength of numbers. When Muslims become strong, they aggressively begin to demand Sharia law against the will of the kafir victims of supremacism. This creeping persecution against the host culture begins and continues until Islam becomes the supreme and unanswerable political ideology in the territory. When the territory becomes officially Islamic, the persecution of non-Muslims goes into full gear to humiliate and inconvenience them to the extent that they will convert to Islam in order to avoid Islam’s official policy of persecution. Jihad is warfare against disbelievers. Deception is a huge part of jihad.
Allah is the greatest deceiver – “Allahu khayru al-makireena” – K. 3:54; cf. 8:30
R Russell says
The 4 stages of Islamic Conquest explain your very good points.
Jackiekc says
You are so right. We have seen this in our community when we were invited to attend services at a mosque. All was sweetness and light, but one just has to look at conditions elsewhere when the Muslim community is more than 10 per cent of the population and the talk changes. The sweetness disappears.
underbed cat says
Deception was the ingenious method used in the doctrine, to appear as victims, bring people into Islam and cover for the brutality and the goal of conquest. Without it, the doctrine would be seen as a threat so the hijra, mass migration, would be resisted by the target country. The peacefulness only lasts so long, in the end it is a invasion.
isabella van der westhuizen says
A Muslim must always tell the truth
To another Muslim
Mike says
But the other muslim know so well muslims lies that he will have more faith in what a non-muslim say than in a muslim.
Voytek Gagalka says
As expressed so on numerous occasions, Anni Cyrus NEVER EVER describes herself as being “ex-Muslim.” So why this misleading headline nevertheless states to the contrary?
vlparker says
If I’m not mistaken, Anni does not consider herself an ex-muslim. I believe she claims to never have been a muslim because she had no say in the matter.
John Fofrbes says
The real issues for us all is the utter determination of Western Governments to both BELIEVE & TROT out the same nonsense (or deny their possible knowledge)
ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE FOLLOWED BY VIOLENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM !
All Western Democracies must DEMAND that this NONSENSE stop !\\
ISLAM & its abusive teachings & Behaviour must be confronted & challenged ! OR we are ALL in for SHARIA & eventually a loss of Democracy !
Robert Lee Taylor, III says
Only the one true God, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will defeat Islam.
The God of David. The God of us all.
Because the world chooses not to.
TheBuffster says
Hi, Anni.
Awhile back I listened to former Muslim Hashim Almadani’s video about “taqiyya”, and he says that the word is of a much narrower meaning than is usually used in the anti-jihad movement. It’s not lying for the sake of Islam, but simply lying to protect oneself from deadly consequences for being a Muslim or a particular sect of Muslim.
I asked Hashim if he means that it’s against Islamic doctrine to lie for the cause of Islam, and he said no, but the name for that lying is not “taqiyya”.
I’ve heard this from other sources a couple of times. I’m not sure who’s right about this. But I want to get it right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsDjCpfFX1M&t=1s
Dale Netherton says
All this nonsense is based on the acceptance of faith as a means of obtaining knowledge. It is not. It is unquesitong belief , in other words it comes from imagination. Wipe out his false premise and the issue of the intricacies of Islam becomes just so much trivia.
paul says
Any infidel who has read the Qur’an from front to back will conclude the obvious: Islam is as far from a religion of peace as one could possibly get. 109 distinct exhortations to Jihad…kill unbelievers for Allah and Muhammed. Any other conclusion is bullshit.