Kleine Zeitung reports that two people were killed, and that the shooter was “known to police.” But the police insist that this was not a jihad terror attack, since after all, hardly anything ever really is. Just coincidentally, the believers in a religion that calls for the murder of those who do not believe the same way, and/or who behave in a manner that the religion forbids, keep killing people who are among those the religion calls them to kill, but the killings never have anything to do with that religion. Only greasy Islamophobes would not buy this.
“Nightclub shooting – one dead and three seriously injured as gunman opens fire,” by Sofia Petkar, Express, July 30, 2017 (thanks to Othmar):
ONE person has been killed and three people are seriously injured after a shooting at a nightclub in Germany.
A gunman opened fire at the packed-out Grey nightclub in the city of Konstanz – close to the Swiss border – shooting several people in the early hours of the morning.
At least one person has been killed and three others seriously injured.
The nightclub is thought to have been hosting a student night at the time of the incident, which is believed to have lasted just minutes.
The suspect, believed to be a 34-year-old man, was seriously injured in a gunfight with police officers outside the venue as he attempted to flee at around 4.30am local time.
He later died in hospital.
One police officer has also been injured during an exchange of gunfire – His injury is not thought to be life-threatening.
Special commando forces and a helicopter have been deployed to the area as it remains unclear if the gunman had accomplices or acted alone.
Officers said the shooter’s motive was unclear….
According to reports in the Bild newspaper, the shooter was an Iraqi national and was known to police.
An eyewitness said : “He opened fired and shot randomly. The nightclub was packed. I guess several hundred people were there.”
Police say there are no indications that the attack was terror-related, with reports suggesting it was sparked by a domestic or relationship dispute….
AzB says
Apparently he was there the night before aswell, and had some argument. So they assume A leads to B and it was specific to the circumstances of some argument.
But if so why shoot randomly. A normal “gangster” style grudge thing would be shoot the person concerned.
Why indiscriminate. He knows that means life sentences or death.
And if it was a follow on from the previous day, then it was premeditated too.
Seems very strange.
Is it so impossible that a person opt for “jihad” when they already made their mind up to shoot a person for some reason or other, so decide “well, i might aswell go all in, at least there’s a chance to get something out of it – such as a better spot in paradise”
Why can’t a muslim sort of upgrade a regular disturbance to a jihad opportunity if they feel they’re at end of tether anyhow. ?!
Assuming they know their religion the idea must surely cross the mind…
J_not_a says
Do they not do pat-downs on everyone and search purses etc. before allowing entry into nightclubs in Hamburg and Germany? Especially in this day and age? Or did this guy “know” the bouncer or doorman or bribe him/them to get in with a gun? Incredible how this was allowed to happen.
High Hopes says
It’s the active state of denial, let’s pretend we don’t have the enemy living among us who are ceaselessly seeking our demise. Beyond dumb.
simpleton1 says
A police-trained upright person, from Iraq. Will wonders never cease?
That makes sense, a relationship act, so if you have friends like this, you sure do not need enemies ? It brings in the possibility of an “honour killing”.
Such a good game to play ” escaping into the open or hiding”.
Those jolly Germans seem to enjoy the game ? ,and just a pity that it turns tragic for some.
“known to police”. So although maybe a ‘lone wolf’, but actually a “KNOWN WOLF”
Perhaps I should not take the mickey out of the translation, but then again I am not laughing about the out-come, and any smile is rather grim.
Just when will the Germans read the koran, hadiths sirah and sunnah to bring about an understanding what muslims follow in their “perfect man” Mohammad..? and then understand the “KNOWN WOLF PACK” and then see how it is orchestrated terror structure that is at war with them.
FYI says
Oh dear! The German police appear to have the same problem with their detective skills as the Britanistani police.
Let’s see now if we can apply that well known,standard homicide detection paradigm…Means(or method)…Opportunity…Motivation.
So we have the Method/Means(use of firearms)..and we have …Opportunity(easy targets in a nightclub)..but {sarc on\…sarcasm is the only way to deal with this..}what could possibly be the Motivation?
Assuming the assailant to be a member of the totally non-violent religion of peace,what on earth could possibly inspire him to slay {unbelieving souls} wherever they are found?
Where indeed (and why?)would anyone get the idea to do such a morally wrong,sinful and wicked thing,something that is clearly prohibited by Almighty God in His Sixth Commandment(…but of course not by allah!)?
Could it possibly be connected with allah’s morally wrong instruction to break God’s Sixth Commandment when he says..
“Slay the unbeliever wherever you find them” k2:191..?
{sarc off/}
Isn’t it odd that allah tells his followers to do things in his incredibly perfect book, the koran,things that are expressly FORBIDDEN BY THOSE ORIGINAL COMMANDMENTS?..And isn’t it even more odd that muslims don’t see the difference between God’s Law and allah’s warped equivocations?
God’s Law(via His Commandments):God says No to murder,stealing,lying.adultery etc..God says No.Period.There are no equivocations.
versus
allah’s law(via his multiple equivocations):allah says OK to murder,stealing,lying(taqqiya),adultery(with an enslaved woman).. especially if the victims are infidels….all of which are condemned by God’s Original Commandments.!!
Isn’t murder morally wrong and condemned by God as a Sin?
The whole point of God giving us His Commandments is to be clear about obeying His law….but allah says the opposite and tells his followers that it is Ok to twist God’s laws.No it is not.
According to God intentional murder is wrong.It is clearly condemned by the Sixth Commandment isn’t it?But then allah in his koran{the most perfect book ever…well,except for the galaxy of errors and theological howlers in it..} and his self-appointed “prophet” muhammed{the most perfect man that ever lived despite apparently never following any of God’s Commandments}and the devout followers of the religion of peace….couldn’t be bother either following (or even knowing!)God’s Commandments.
According to allah….it is perfectly Ok to commit murder..especially if the victims are infidels and the attacker is a devout muslim
allah even rewards the jihadist mass murderer in his islamic paradise.
God on the other hand,condemns violators of His Commandments and is never likely to reward evil doers,false prophets and condemns those fabricated false gods who twist His Commandments in order to do evil..like allah does…
It is not rocket science…
{God} versus {allah who wants to be seen as God}
Lloyd Miller says
Perhaps we must take the low road.
The left is allowed to use any language they wish against their opponents.
We must remain dignified in our criticisms.
But the masses ONLY listen to loud brutal language.
simpleton1 says
I do not know how it was done, but when ISIS or such seem to execute a prisoner, the prisoner seems to be quiet and with much dignity has his throat cut.
No brutal loud language. They seemingly accept their fate, with great dignity. Possibly they were drugged, a small mercy, if that is done.
Their body then takes the “low road” to go back home.
Should we be more blunt, out spoken, with “loud brutal language” focusing on the issues/truths.
To use jokes, mockery, ridicule, chants, protests, etc. to make a point of our concerns that emanate from the abrogations in the koran, supported by hadith, sirah and sunnah?
Truth has brutality
Truth should not be whispered, it should be shouted out loud.
Truth should never be hushed/shut down.
Truth is out spoken.
Truth exposes lies, innuendo, omission, cover-ups.
Truth lives with facts.
Truth has dignity in all of the above.
Jack Diamond says
Re: ISIS executions, based on witnesses report, the prisoners were brought out over and over in what were mock or staged executions that never actually took place. This may partially explain the lack of panic before the real thing finally occurs. Equally, so could the degree of faith (and dignity) possessed by so many of the Christian martyrs explain their behavior before their murderers.
A lot of people can’t handle the truth, including people who can censor you, ostracize you, or arrest you (besides those who would be happy to kill you). Truth will surely prevail in the end, but it’s a long, bumpy, bloody road to get there.
Notmoron says
Leopod Von sacher–Masoch has returned to Europe.
Sarah says
Iraqi. Machine Gun. Western style Night Club.
Enough said.
And here I thought Germany had some decent gun control laws. God, even our criminals in Australia have an exceedingly hard time of getting their hands on that kind of weaponry.
How did this welfare sucking pointless waste of oxygen get his mitts on a machine gun?
J_not_a says
These “lone wolves” are anything but. They always have plenty of financial and logistical help from the higher ups on the jihadi terrorist chain. Money and weapons are funneled to these dim bulb losers to do the dirty grunt work. Their masters would never stoop to sully their hands with this stuff.
Alien Republican says
They are physically lone but acting within the “matrix” of islamic thought.
revereridesagain says
According to the report below, he was known as “an Islamist but not a jihadist”. That applies only if you evade the understanding that “an Islamist” MUST be “a jihadist”, the jihad is required of all believing Muslims. A personal argument turns into an indiscriminate multiple-target attack on a nightclub? Seems jihadists bent on murder can leave the “authorities” with an excuse for their convenient PC uncertainty simply by leaving out those two little words, “allahu akbar”.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/07/30/german-nightclub-shooting-one-killed-several-hurt-after-gunman-opens-fire.html
J_not_a says
Just what the heck is an “islamist” anyway and who made up that stupid meaningless word, on par with “islamophobia”. Call them what they are – islamic jihadist terrorists!
mortimer says
“Es ist die IDEOLOGIE, dummkopfen!”
Crime-solving clue for German police: Read Robert Spencer’s books.
nicu says
Police may do what Merkel says, only ! Or they get threatened or bribed by Muslims !
If á cop haarms a Muslim he is in big trouble n– if you get caught in the train haveing no ticket as a Non Muslim you go to jail !
Dictatorship !
Ric says
Once again the Fuhrer, Merkel and her henchmen prefer to stick their heads in their favorite orifice. These attacks are an anomaly of Islam.
Farewell, Germany, karma has come back and bit you on the you-know.
nicu says
you arw a RACIST !!!! The Hooton plan was made up to rease all Germans – by Americans and Britons – THEY let us pay for whAT happened alnmost 100 years ago : USA will have a worst karma than us : killing natives and invading other countries every day ! the worst war makers ever -why do you think Muslim countries are so unstable or Ukraine ??? You believe it was a revolution ????
But yes NO word from Merkel about all the incident – the murders – but IF a Muslim dies she is there and shows compassion ….
mortimer says
LIFE-STYLE JIHAD means attacking the DIRTY KUFAAR wherever they are breaking Sharia law!
Nightclubs and rock concerts are the WORST in the eyes of Muslims…places where alcohol and drugs are used (haram), where men and women are in the same room unchaperoned (haram), where dancing occurs (haram), where musical instruments are used (haram), and where people tell jokes (haram).
Any kafirs who are in nightclubs are considered to deserve death and that includes any non-practicing Muslims who are there as well. No practicing Muslims will be killed in an attack on nightclubs.
Tom says
His motive may not have been jihad but from recent reports it appears that those committing murder against non muslims in Germany are of similar ethnic backgrounds.
The most used motivation given by German police is mentally unbalanced. So if almost 100% of attacks are by people of middle eastern muslim or similar ethnicity and they are mentally unstable, what does that tell us about those of such backgrounds?
Not only does it seem that that group is mentally unstable but they are also very susceptable to being easily brainwashed. This alone should reinforce our resolve to fight against bringing such people into our countries.
Santa Voorhees says
Good point. The Left is basically calling the people of such backgrounds mentally unstable. That’s racist, if you think about it.
nicu says
so true _ it’s a shame to REALLY mentally unstable people who mostly harm themselves and not others !
Islam is a mental illness !!!
J_not_a says
Leftists and those who practice islam are both mentally deficient and have in common the hatred of western civilization. No wonder they are enthralled with each other.
Ren says
Have a happy jihad time, Germany!
nicu says
our fucking lying media says it was a personal family thing –as always — and probably he was menatlly ill – 🙁
Alien Republican says
More blood on Merkels hands. Hope she will go the way of Mussolini.
J_not_a says
How does that biatch sleep at night?
Andre-Hans "Captain" von Bremen says
By coincidence, the Killer is an Irakse… “well integrated” since 15 years in Germany ! Did you say “well integrated”… Any Muslim is a potential danger ! Angela must leace ! She has again blood on her hands !
Enrique Prieto Castillo says
THANKS FRAU MERKEL
Jack Diamond says
All the things you mention can be perfectly Islamic and sanctioned for anyone guarding himself from the kuffar or waging jihad against them. He is not necessarily ignoring Islam.
Necessity permits a pious Muslim to do what is otherwise forbidden. Darura is an Islamic doctrine, based like everything in Islam on how Muhammad dealt with necessities. Q 6:119 “He has explained to you what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity.” Taqiyya/muda’rat is about concealment and deception. Deception is a pillar of jihad (“war is deceit”) as much as fighting (“we must deal with our enemies with smiles on our faces and curses in our hearts”). Muhammad in a hadith allows a Muslim to fool the non-Muslims by bad-mouthing him (Muhammad) to them, for the sake of bringing some wealth back to the Muslims. “Say whatever you have to say” Muhammad says. Think of the implications of that.
Also, keep in mind what Muhammad said about the kaffirs and about their blood and property being for the taking by the Muslims (absent conversion, a dhimmi pact, or temporary peace treaty). Their blood and riches (and women) are permissible to the Muslims as war booty, as spoils of war (the title of surah 8), because Islam is in perpetual war with infidels. Those hostilities can only be deferred depending on how weak or vulnerable the Muslims are, otherwise as in Qur’an 47:35 “so be not weak and ask for peace while you are having the upper hand.”
But even if that Muslim is falling into the ways of the kaffirs, not as a strategy or deceit, he knows that one exalted deed fighting in the cause of allah can erase all his wrongs and even punch his ticket into paradise.
Fordstar says
How long are you European idiots going to keep up this charade about muslims wanting to integrate into whatever society they land in. Get it thru your thick heads, they are there to subjugate your culture and replace it with their own. And forget about the “moderate” muslims–there is no such thing. If you are a muslim you will abide by the quran and sharia or face the penalty for apostasy. Not a pretty thing. I am sure there were a lot of “moderate” Germans when Hitler took power, a lot of Russians when Stalin seized the country, a lot of moderate Chinese, Cubans, Vietnamese,Iranians, etc. It is NEVER the moderates who seize power. Always the radical and violent faction. Isam is no different.
In fact, why don’t you just capitulate now and give in to Sharia law. Maybe you will serve as an example and a wake-up call to the rest of the world. That way your loss won’t be a total waste.
You are pathetic!!!