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Germany: Muslim migrant screaming “Allahu akbar” who stabbed shoppers “known as an Islamist but not a jihadist”

Jul 29, 2017 1:03 pm By Robert Spencer

The BBC doesn’t see fit to mention the fact, but he was screaming “Allahu akbar” as he stabbed the shoppers.

“‘He was known as an Islamist but not a jihadist,’ police spokesman Andy Grote said, noting that the suspect also suffered from ‘psychological’ issues.”

So here again we have jihad being ignored as a motive, and the incident ascribed to mental illness. Authorities have yet to explain why there is this global outbreak of mental illness among Muslims.

“He was known as an Islamist but not a jihadist”? Non-Muslims throw these words around without any idea of their provenance or of the contents of Islamic theology and law. “Islamist” is actually a Western coinage that has no meaning or validity in Islamic texts or teachings. Islam is political and supremacist in its core teachings; non-Muslims invented the word “Islamist” in order to try to distinguish jihad terror from Islam itself, and exonerate the latter from any responsibility for terrorism.

In the last few years, however, “Islamist” has come to mean someone who favors political Islam imposed through peaceful means, not violent ones: the Muslim Brotherhood as opposed to al-Qaeda. However, this is a distinction without a difference, as the goal for both is the same: the imposition of Sharia everywhere. Also, there is no distinction in the Qur’an or Sunnah, or from any of the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, between those who work to impose Sharia through peaceful means and those who work through violent means. Did German authorities really think that am “Islamist” would forever scrupulously refrain from taking up arms in the cause of Islam? Sheer wishful thinking.

A update on this story. “Hamburg supermarket attacker ‘was known Islamist,'” BBC, July 29, 2017:

The man who killed one person and injured six in a supermarket knife attack in Hamburg was a “known Islamist”, police say.

“He was known as an Islamist but not a jihadist,” police spokesman Andy Grote said, noting that the suspect also suffered from “psychological” issues.

The man, a failed asylum seeker born in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), attacked customers at random on Friday.

Police said he acted alone and he was overpowered by passers-by.

The 26-year-old man, identified as Ahmad A, is a Palestinian from the UAE who is registered on an Islamist database, Mr Grote said on Saturday.

The attacker, who arrived in Germany in 2015 but could not be deported because he had no identification papers, was also suffering from mental health problems, officials said.

Police have carried out a search of the shelter in Hamburg where the man was living but said there was no evidence that he had accomplices or was part of a terror organisation.

It is not yet clear what the suspect’s motivations were….

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  1. Jack Dawkins says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 1:10 pm

    It’s Springtime for Muhammad in Germany!

  2. CogitoErgoSum says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    So what is the difference between Muslims, Islamists and Jihadists? I’m not sure but I’m guessing that Muslims merely hate infidels passively while Islamists put their hate into action by doing as much harm to infidels as possible without actually killing anyone and Jihadists simply ignore all man-made laws in order to implement the laws of Allah by any means necessary, including the use of violence and murder. So, the Muslims will point you out to the Islamists who will then detain you, gag you and tie your hands and then after that will turn you over to the Jihadists who will then kill you (in accordance with the words of Allah, of course).

    • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

      Jul 29, 2017 at 2:26 pm

      CogitoErgoSum

      I think you’re just being a bit tongue in cheek, but Robert Spencer answers your question in the article above.

      Sometimes it’s helpful to illustrate things with charts, so if the formatting of posted comments cooperates, I’ve taken a pass at chart that graphically defines these terms.

      Muslim Islamist Jihadi
      Muslim x x x
      Islamist x x x
      Jihadi x x x

      Note: For purposes of this chart I’m assuming that “Muslim” means “Muslim”, and not a hypocrite or apostate. Muslims may help to further clarify the classification of anyone denounced as being a member of one of these “exception” groups, by attempting to shuffle them off their mortal coils.

      • ItsReallyQuiteClear says

        Jul 29, 2017 at 2:33 pm

        Oh well, it’s a web forum, and text formatting gets kind of stripped down. Picture like a tab between “x” and a similar tab between each “heading” in the top row. Or just read Robert Spencer’s post…

        And no, all those x’s weren’t intended to represent hugs and kisses…

  3. Jaladhi says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 2:21 pm

    Islamist is such a fake word – thanks to some fake experts on Islam!!

  4. Westman says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    Why does Islam cause so many “mental problems”? If this was a new strain of bird flu there would be a rush to contain it. Yet the Islamic pandemic of mental illness is ignored as though it had no consequences.

    The message of Islam is clear:

    Your life has no meaning except to worship, serve, and die for Allah.

    Your wife is but tilth to make more jihadist men.

    Your sons, and particularly, your daughters are expendable and also killable for any offense to Islam.

    You must have only true friends among Muslims. Unbelievers and Jews are filthy rejects.

    You must fight for Allah or/and do Dawa or you’ll burn forever in Allah’s torture chamber.

    You are under constant watch by other Muslims who are authorized by Allah to correct you, even unto death, if you “step out of line”.

    Dad may have married his first cousin. Islam ignores genetics and most of science.

    You can escape to Jannah, anytime, by being killed while killing an unbeliever of any nation that has fought against Muslim “brothers”.

    This is a recipe for “mental illness”. Who really wants to live in this kind of life? It’s no wonder the “refugees” went to Europe for a better life before Islam ruins it, as well. Unfortunately, they brought the prion disease, Islam, with them.

    • CogitoErgoSum says

      Jul 29, 2017 at 2:49 pm

      Yes, those “refugees” are fleeing a deadly disease but they have not gone through any type of “decontamination” to eliminate the possibility the disease will spread throughout the new and uninfected environment. It’s a new “Black Death” which leaves the body intact while killing off the mind and the spirit.

  5. ItsReallyQuiteClear says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    Westman,

    Your comment presents hope that this all could be cured with a vaccine! 🙂

    And, seriously, could you imagine if your summary was printed, bound and offered for sale in college bookstores as Cliff Notes for introductory religion classes?

  6. Walter Sieruk says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    Some politically correct people are still in some kind of a state of mental denial . That vicious and murderous Muslim man was a jihadist. As the Quran instructs in Surah 9:123. “O you you who believe ! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you , and let them find harshness in you…”
    Those PC People who are in a state of denial need to have a reality check. Islam is ,in essence ,a violent and dangerous religion.

    • Bee says

      Jul 30, 2017 at 5:17 am

      Political correctness is quite simply a phrase used to disguise the truth by lying. So reporters, the media, government officials, liberal lefties etc., who are politically correct are liars. The opposite to that is those who tell the truth are accused of hate speech. So there we have it in this upside down world.

  7. Lydia says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 8:40 pm

    Okay, but now he IS known as a jihadist.

  8. abad says

    Jul 29, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    Dear Germany

    It is time for you to round up your entire worthless Moslem population and deport them all back to Syria.

  9. Michael Copeland says

    Jul 30, 2017 at 9:16 am

    “The BBC doesn’t see fit to mention the fact, but he was screaming “Allahu akbar”….`’

    Yes, the BBC has a long track record of not seeing fit to mention certain Islamic facts. After all, they employ a number of muslims.

    When a kindergarten worker was assaulted by screaming muslim women on her way to work the BBC edited out the mention of their crying “Allahu Akbar” from her employer’s account, causing a noticeable jump in the video. It was “so that it would fit the bulletin”, you see.

    In “A Caliphate in 90 Seconds” they presented the options facing non-muslims in the Caliphate as
    “Religious minorities must: Pay tax Convert Or leave”. This conveniently omits “be killed” – the other alternative (https://libertygb.org.uk/news/caliphate-90-seconds).

    The BBC obfuscates and befogs issues, claiming “the motivation for many of the assaults cannot be pinned down so precisely” in this “complex web of factors” . They refer to “Many analysts” without identifying them or their “analysis”, even when challenged.
    (“Deception by the BBC”, Liberty GB, https://libertygb.org.uk/news/deception-bbc,
    https://libertygb.org.uk/news/bbc-fog-making-soldier-murder-afghanistan

    The BBC misinforms and disinforms. It is perniciously irresponsible to represent Islamic State’s agenda. Sharia, as “their view of conservative Islamic traditions” (https://libertygb.org.uk/news/bbc-draws-veil-over-islamic-state).

    The BBC promotes tangled verbiage like “An extreme but non-violent ideology helps push Muslims into the arms of violent extremists” (“The BBC’s Useless Waffle about ‘British Islam'”, https://libertygb.org.uk/news/bbcs-useless-waffle-about-british-islam).

    The BBC, in a by now familiar tactic of deflection and obfuscation, disinforms its readers yet again in an article, “What is jihadism?” (“BBC: Getting Islam Off The Hook”, at Liberty GB, https://libertygb.org.uk/news/bbc-getting-islam-hook).

    The BBC is a national disgrace.

  10. Valkyrie Ziege says

    Jul 30, 2017 at 11:39 am

    ; I’m not seeing a big difference between Hitler, and Merkel, both allowed totalitarian regimes, and violent thugs, to hurt their country.

  11. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jul 30, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Since muhammad invented it, the official term they apply to them selves is MUSLIMS.

    Since leftopaths use this weird term, “islamists” to mean deluded supporters of islam who are no real muslims, then I’m pretty sure the only real “islamists” in the world are those same liberals them selves!

    😉

  12. clay pierce says

    Jul 31, 2017 at 12:37 am

    It looks like Germany may beat the UK to being the newest Islamic country in Europe

  13. Alien Republican says

    Jul 31, 2017 at 4:08 am

    I don’t believe any longer that this crime was motivated by “Jihad”. A LOT of people could have been killed with an M16.

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