“It seems this particular part of Ustadz Syam’s sermon did not go down with many Muslims in Indonesia, who took to social media to denounce what they considered to be a lewd sermon that was inappropriate for TV.”
Do they consider the Qur’an to be lewd?
“Indeed, for the righteous is attainment, gardens and grapevines and full-breasted companions of equal age and a full cup.” (78:31-34)
Do they consider statements attributed to Muhammad to be lewd?
“None is made to enter Paradise by Allah Most High except Allah Most High shall marry him to seventy-two wives, two of them from the wide-eyed maidens of Paradise and seventy of them his inheritance from the People of Hellfire, not one of them but her attraction never lags nor his arousal ever wanes.” (Ibn Majah; Ibn Adi’s Kamil; al-Bayhaqi’s al-Ba`th wal-Nushur)
“Each time we sleep with a Houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one will marry seventy houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.” (Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur’an, p. 351)
“The Prophet said: ‘The believer will be given tremendous strength in Paradise for sexual intercourse’. It was questioned: ‘O prophet of Allah! can he do that?’ He said: ‘He will be given the strength of one hundred persons.’” (Tirmidhi 2536)
“Indonesian celebrity cleric Ustadz Syam apologizes after saying Muslims are promised ‘sex parties in heaven’ on TV,” Coconuts Jakarta, July 18, 2017:
An Indonesian celebrity Islamic cleric has come under fire for suggesting that Muslims are promised sex parties in heaven during a recent televised sermon.
Syamsuddin Nur Makkah, better known by his celebrity moniker Ustadz Syam, appeared in an episode of an Islamic sermon program called ‘Islam Itu Indah’ (Islam is Beautiful) on local channel Trans TV on Saturday. A short clip from the episode went viral over the last couple of days because of the sexually charged nature of Ustadz Syam’s sermon.
In the video, the 24-year-old Ustadz Syam says, “One of the pleasures in heaven are sex parties. Apologies, but this is why we have to withhold (sexual urges) in this world,” before going on to say that men have to work hard to withhold their sexual urges because women like to wear tank tops in the summer and, obviously, inside airplane cabins despite the cold.
It seems this particular part of Ustadz Syam’s sermon did not go down with many Muslims in Indonesia, who took to social media to denounce what they considered to be a lewd sermon that was inappropriate for TV….
James says
It sometimes seems as though Islam were two religions. How could anyone think such goings-on are desirable in this life, let alone the next ? The implication is that God acts as a pimp for his “clients”. Who have bodies, but clearly never get STDs of any kind, nor any other infirmity that could interfere with their activities.
Such a conception of the afterlife is far inferior to the hints in the Bible, which emphasises the need for holiness. The disappointingly low spiritual tone of the Koran do not encourage the view that it is better than the OT and NT. Islam may have been an improvement on pre-Islamic paganism, but it is not an improvement on the best parts of the OT, or on the NT.
abad says
Very simple really.
Islam is a religion of the flesh, whereas Christianity is a religion of the spirit.
Next please.
Michael Copeland says
The Koran?
“This wretched book … I have been unable to discover in it one single idea of value.”
Arthur Schopenhauer
“So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world.”
William E. Gladstone
“It’s a depressing book. It really is. It’s just the rantings of a schizophrenic. There is also the barrenness of the message. It has no ethical dimension.”
Sebastian Faulks
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/book-reviews-koran
Carolyne says
Don’t TV ads tell men to go to the hospital if this happens for more than four hours? Are there hospitals in Muslim Heaven?
This entire man-made religion is about sex and abusing women. It has always been my opinion that men who constantly talk about sex aren’t getting any. But just look at this guy. Who would want to…..Oh never mind.
gravenimage says
Yes, Carolyne–I made that same joke here a couple of years ago. That Muslims consider a dangerous medical condition their ‘heavenly’ ideal is very telling.
somehistory says
moslums are obsessed with murder, sex, and forcing everyone to agree with them.
Such twisted thinking can only originate with satan the devil.
Nonie Darwish says
If Indonesian Muslims are angry at the sheikh, then why aren’t angry at Muhammad? Why are they still Muslim?
gravenimage says
Excellent question, Ms. Darwish.
mgoldberg says
Why don’t they allow their principles, commandments, ideas to be examined and discussed by anyone.
All other religions do, but they don’t. They will reserve the right to rage, and deny any and all culpability by Mohammed, by his Qu’ran, by the hadiths. Then others die for asking any questions, then cry victimhood.
And why do we still allow them carte blanche to do this?
Terry Gain says
All very good questions, but I have a more basic one. Why do we allow Muslims to come into our secular democracies and try to force their lunatic ideology on us?
gravenimage says
I think most Westerners forgot how violent Islam is, and foolishly assumed that Muslims are as civilized as everyone else.
john spielman says
muhammed was a very wicked sociopathic perhaps even psychopathic man; a supreme narcissist, who lusted after many people and things and how convenient that he would receive a “revelation” from allah that would satisfy his lusts. He passed his sexual fantasies onto islamic heaven where paradise is a debauched drunken whore house with ‘perpetual virgins” and pearly boys” – to sarisfy hetersexual and homosexual lusts – all fuelled by forbiden ( on earth) alcohol! islam is a totally debased belief system which sanctifies ( makes holy) – rape pedophilia theft lying and murder of those who oppose its demonic tenets. If muhammad were alive today in a western country , he would be locked in a prison for the criminally insane – or executed!
God the Lord, in the Bible, forbids such evil in his presence- there is NO sex in heaven. Jesus said there will be neither marrying nor giving in marriage as we will be like the angels”!
john spielman says
ps , if you are Nonie Darwish, the famed author on islam ( like Robert Spencer etc al), I am honored to share t my humble ramblings with you!!
gravenimage says
John, the brave and principled Nonie Darwish comments here at Jihad Watch quite frequently. I had the good fortune to hear her speak at Berkeley a few years ago.
Michael Copeland says
“THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.”
John Quincy Adams, President of USA
All capitals his.
PRCS says
Because they’re in pretend mode.
Dacritic says
Nonie, your comment should be hurled at the faces of people like Tarek Fatah and all the other “reformers” of Islam.
I believe these “reform efforts” of Islam are just another form of the “by all means curse Muslims but never criticise Muhammad” initiaitve.
Because, come on. Let’s not kid ourselves. The end-goal of Muslim “reformers” is still to protect their demented prophet and their stupid religion.
And…I’d like to applaud people like you who came up with all the courage in the world to do the ultimate: LEAVING ISLAM FOR JESUS CHRIST.
anth says
You can’t get angry with mohammad as the koran says in surah 33 :57 that those who annoy allah and his messenger-allah has cursed them in the world and in the hereafter…..Abdullah Yusuf Ali’s translation…so you just have to vent it on the ustadz/preacher…have to admit that koran is masterpiece of mo.
carol says
Their irrationality is par for the course and we’ve come to take it for granted.
Zimriel says
Ustadz is, I think, Ustadh which is a title given to teachers in the Arabic-speaking world.
It used to be that Indonesians only had one name, besides honorifics.
Skeptic says
Here’ the real truth on Indonesia as a successful Muslim country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkVtAc-uWBw
moeped says
You almost feel sorry for these “people”. Almost.
mortimer says
And what do Muslim women get?? The doubtful ‘pleasure’ of watching their husband having ‘sex parties’.
Do Muslim women ever use their brains? Then why do they remain in this RAPE CULT, MISOGYNY CULT ???
Dacritic says
“Do Muslim women ever use their brains?”
They apparently don’t.
Carolyne says
Can’t use what you don’t have.
gravenimage says
Indonesia: Muslim cleric says “One of the pleasures in heaven are sex parties”
…………………..
That’s what Islamic “Paradise” is–a brothel in the sky.
More:
In the video, the 24-year-old Ustadz Syam says, “One of the pleasures in heaven are sex parties. Apologies, but this is why we have to withhold (sexual urges) in this world,” before going on to say that men have to work hard to withhold their sexual urges because women like to wear tank tops in the summer and, obviously, inside airplane cabins despite the cold.
…………………..
Once again, it is women’s fault that Muslim men have sexual urges.
But the Muslim cleric is also being dishonest here. While Muslims would get in trouble if they try to rape women in tank tops on airplanes, they actually have free range under Islam to “marry” up to four women–including prepubescent children–they may also rape Infidels as a form of Jihad, and may keep as many sex slaves as they can get their hands on.
This is not exactly “withholding sexual urges”–and only Muslims would consider this “chaste”.
sancho panza says
You hit the nail on the head, gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thank you sancho.
I’m not sure I have seen you posting before–if you are new to Jihad Watch, welcome!
sancho panza says
Thank you, gravenimage.
I’ve been a regular at Jihad Watch for many years now. It’s gotten so I can’t get by without my daily fix of JW, Barenakedislam et al! I especially love the comments at JW for the lucid arguments and the excellence of the language.
Well, I do put in my 2 cents worth once in a while but, alas, without leaving much of an impression.
moeped says
https://youtu.be/cpGbzYlnz7c
James Pierce says
“The penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal”
On those Cialis commercials they tell you to seek medical help immediately for that
balam says
Don’t you think that it would be painful to have permanent erection in Islamic paradise?
gravenimage says
Ha ha
mgoldberg says
It brings me back to 20-25 yrs ago. That time frame, before the internet we have today, and before Jihadwatch or any mention of the Jihad. Back then, I remember discussing this on newsgroups dealing with other issues, and having the leftists and a few muslims would rail at the mention of the 72 virgins and the references in the Islamic literature. Now, all these years later we still have the denial of any of this, but now we have this ‘religious’ leader going on about how heaven is sex parties ( 72 virgins, and the ‘boys’ )
and we had the ‘halal’ chairmen of Australia opining that australian women needed to be fertilized by muslim men. We have the many hundreds of rapes across Europe and elsewhere, with reports of victims having their rapists praying before them calling it a holy act their raping the women. Now… the same milieu exists- you can’t refer to this as part of normative Islam, in any way shape or form because that’s bigoted, racist, islamophobic creation and not accurate. Except now, we have the political islam having moved wesern governments to allow all this in official terms, the adoption of sharia closer than ever and the threat to anyone who wants to delve into this ‘religous’ ideology’ of Islam under threat from all sides for being ‘Islamophobic’ and hateful.
Meaning: we need to keep the pedal to the metal and keep reporting on this not only here at Jihadwatch but our local papers, others local papers to spread this info and prevent the curtain of silence from being imposed upon this exposure.
Lydia says
Uh…… NO!
Dirty, degraded, depraved, disgraceful and shameful.
They are sooooo lost.
endislam says
Sounds like muhammad’s masturbation fantasies.
Wellington says
The fact that this incredibly stupid and childish religion, Islam, hasn’t been laughed out of existence by now is itself profound cause for concern and an extremely sobering statement about the human condition.
Dacritic says
Psalm 81:12 and Romans 1:28.
I agree brother. It is indeed, like you said, sobering.
carol says
It’s probably really a social club where they’ve learned to enjoy their dirty cage and ignore or deny the bars – and their responsibilities to the human race.
mousey says
why do you have the quote from “Al-Itqan fi Ulum al-Qur’an”… I’ve looked up the book and there is no such quote.
Musalmaanmasala says
Mousey you are right. But then what about :
“Indeed, for the righteous is attainment, gardens and grapevines and full-breasted companions of equal age and a full cup.” (78:31-34)
“None is made to enter Paradise by Allah Most High except Allah Most High shall marry him to seventy-two wives, two of them from the wide-eyed maidens of Paradise and seventy of them his inheritance from the People of Hellfire, not one of them but her attraction never lags nor his arousal ever wanes.” (Ibn Majah; Ibn Adi’s Kamil; al-Bayhaqi’s al-Ba`th wal-Nushur)
“The Prophet said: ‘The believer will be given tremendous strength in Paradise for sexual intercourse’. It was questioned: ‘O prophet of Allah! can he do that?’ He said: ‘He will be given the strength of one hundred persons.’” (Tirmidhi 2536)
ARE THESE ALSO FAKE.
Looks like Mohammed and Allah are running a bordello up on high, that is IF Allah is not roasting Mohammed in Hell.
mousey says
yes, there are a lot of quotes. It’s important to have a fact checker and get it right every time.
aufan says
I was a muslim, then i left after realize this religion is …..
oh, and their prophet actually married an 8y.o girl
Anti-jihad says
As grand as sex is, if that’s all we have to look forward to in Paradise, that’s sad and debauched.
Carolyne says
I think so too. You know, after a while……Don’t they have any libraries in Muslim Paradise? Is there any other activity available? I know that Christians will spend their time praising God, but I don’t know how that works either.
Jack Diamond says
There is a library but it only has one book. But since it is Paradise you no longer have to read it.
If you really followed the example of Muhammad (not the advice) you would never become a shaheed, never blow yourself up for the “wedding”, in fact you would never put yourself in danger, you would surround yourself with bodyguards, and stay in the rear in any battle with an enemy. Just sayin’.
The Muslim whorehouse is no less weird than the Heaven’s Gaters, who left the world with $5 dollar bills in their pockets and small suitcases tucked under their cots–a more prosaic future plan than the Islamikazee who wraps his penis in aluminum to somehow preserve it from the bomb blast for future use with the celestial sluts but not different in kind.
gravenimage says
As disturbing as the Heaven’s Gate cult was, at least they killed no one but themselves.
Would that this were true of Islam.
Sarah says
These days, I am starting to look at the Muslims. All of them, collectively around the world – and holding them responsible for the filthy damage of Islam. After all, if there weren’t any Muslims, there wouldn’t be Islam. It would fade away like most other cults and religions that had their time throughout history.
Just because the average Muslim doesn’t peg a grenade into a childcare centre, or mow over innocent pedestrians, or slash, stab or shoot at people – doesn’t make them, or their faith ‘good’ or ‘peaceful’, By insisting on believing in this stupid religion, by practicing it and thus, by giving it power by the sheer numbers of fellow worshipers – the average Muslim is just as accountable and responsible as any Jihadist.
My point is – just what kind of human being, believes in this utter dross? Just what kind of human being believes in a faith that says to kill unbelievers, to slaughter the Jewish for the crime of being Jewish (and for thwarting Mohammed on one of his many extortionate conquests)?
What kind of human being follows a faith wherein males believe that if they slaughter unbelievers, they not only are guaranteed into Paradise, but in Paradise they get some kind of filthy, obscene, never ending sexual fantasy land where they’re given magical virgins – and a huge number of women, all plucked from the obscurity of hell. What kind of man is so obsessed by the idea of raping 72 women with his never ending erection, using their ‘delicious’ super-vagina’s non-stop, day in, day out for eternity?
What kind of woman devotes herself to a faith that says she is worth half a man. That she exists to please and submit to men for their sexual desire -here on earth and up there in Paradise. That in all likelihood, she will wind up in Hell simply for being born a female – which Allah chose for her because of predestination. So she believes in a God who created her out of hate and is permanently, eternally punishing her – and for what?!?! What kind of woman submits to being mistreated, beaten, abused, used and discarded whenever it suits any male during her life on earth and the BEST case scenario for her is eternity where she is LOCKED IN A FUCKING TENT to forever wait for her male husband to return home from his wanderings around Paradise – she has to wait, locked in that tent, because she HAS to be there, so that he is pleased that he does not have to wait for her. Then presumably, he gets to rape her, beat her, use her and all the rest – in the comfort of said locked tent – for eternity.
Islam is followed by sexually obsessed pervert men and pathetic women teaming with self hatred who get some kind of sick sexual desire out of a really unhealthy form of sadomasochism.
And THESE are the kinds of people we’re all tiptoeing around, in order to not dare offending?
Come. On.
Joe says
Islam continues for the same reason that any tyranny continues. Anyone who objects is killed. Apostates are killed. Fear keeps them in line. The secular judges that offer Muslims lenient sentences fear for their families. Fear is not the only factor, but it is used to make sure that the average Muslim tows the line, and it is used to coerce non-Muslims into questionable decisions.
Norger says
I agree with much of what you say, but it’s also true that Muslims are probably the most numerous victims of Islam. Most of them had no choice in the first place; they were born into the death cult and are forbidden to leave, on penalty of death. It’s a diabolical “religion.”
James Stamulis says
Gee when is Bill Clinton, Wiener and Podesta going to convert?
Carolyne says
I don’t think they need to. They are already practicing this activity here on earth.
FYI says
Yes.. no doubt allah promises such pleasures..with goats and camels….which would make those devout isis/al Qaeda/Taliban boys feel like they are at home.
But seriously… you note that these muslims are obsessed with self-gratification:no room for genuine love between a Man and a Woman or for the proper procreative use of Sex(which is blessed by God)to bring children into being.
It’s all about Self.
Carolyne says
Do these 72 women become pregnant in Muslim heaven? That would make a lot of little targets running around.
gravenimage says
Very true, FYI. There is no love in Islam.
rubiconcrest says
I think the popular Imam has misinterpreted the Koran. He certainly did not mean what he said. Perhaps he did not know the mic was live. Actually I am curious and I would like to ask him, ‘What’s in store for women in the afterlife ?’
gravenimage says
Most of them wind up in hell for not appreciating their husbands enough.
The lucky ones get to watch their husbands raping the 72 virgins and pearly boys for eternity.
JTLiuzza says
How could any mature, rational mind consider an eternity full of sex orgies to make any sense at all? That’s a “heaven” that might make sense to a teenage boy. Here is St. Thomas Aquinas on the carnal nature of that vile faux religion:
“He (Mohammed) seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure to which the concupiscence of the flesh urges us. His teaching also contained precepts that were in conformity with his promises, and he gave free rein to carnal pleasure. In all this, as is not unexpected; he was obeyed by carnal men. As for proofs of the truth of his doctrine, he brought forward only such as could be grasped by the natural ability of anyone with a very modest wisdom. Indeed, the truths that he taught he mingled with many fables and with doctrines of the greatest falsity.
He did not bring forth any signs produced in a supernatural way, which alone fittingly gives witness to divine inspiration; for a visible action that can be only divine reveals an invisibly inspired teacher of truth. On the Contrary, Mohammed said that he was sent in the power of his arms – which are signs not lacking even to robbers and tyrants. What is more, no wise men, men trained in things divine and human, believed in him from the beginning (1). Those who believed in him were brutal men and desert wanderers, utterly ignorant of all divine teaching, through whose numbers Mohammed forced others to become his follower’s by the violence of his arms. Nor do divine pronouncements on part of preceding prophets offer him any witness. On the contrary, he perverts almost all the testimony of the Old and the New Testaments by making them into a fabrication of his own, as can be seen by anyone who examines his law. It was, therefore, a shrewd decision on his part to forbid his followers to read the Old and New Testaments, lest these books convict him of falsity. It is thus clear that those who place faith in his words believe foolishly.” – Summa Contra Gentiles, Book 1, Chapter 16, Art. 4. Footnote: 1. Sura 21:5, Sura 44:14; Sura 16:103, Sura 37:36
Nicole says
More degeneracy hiding behind the facade of religiosity.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; Scratch a religious fanatic, find a sex-pervert.
Jack Diamond says
Scratching one is a little perverted to begin with.
gravenimage says
🙂
Muhammad's Ghost says
Well, the most plausible part of Muhammad’s big brothel in the sky is this part:
“…and seventy of them his inheritance from the People of Hellfire…”
…so punishment of ‘the People of Hellfire’ involves having to be married to a Muslim man. Sounds about right!