This is a terrible decision, a terrible precedent. Muslims rioted, murdered innocent people, and fulminated against Jews and Israel worldwide, and the Israelis gave them what they wanted. Message: jihad terror works. And that only ensures that we will see much more of it.
“Israel to replace metal detectors in Jerusalem with smart surveillance,” Reuters, July 24, 2017:
JERUSALEM (Reuters) – Israel on Tuesday decided to remove metal detectors it had placed at the entrance to a holy site in Jerusalem’s Old City and replace them with smart, less obtrusive surveillance means, a cabinet statement said.
Israel installed metal detectors at entry points to Al-Aqsa mosque compound in Jerusalem after two police officers were fatally shot on July 14, triggering the bloodiest clashes between Israelis and Palestinians in years.
The spike in tensions and the deaths of three Israelis and four Palestinians in violence on Friday and Saturday have triggered international alarm and prompted the United Nations Security Council to convene a meeting to seek ways of calming the situation.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s cabinet voted to remove the metal detector gates after a meeting lasting several hours convening for a second time on Monday after they had broken off discussions a day earlier….
Rev g says
Suicide.
mortimer says
It’s not suicidal if they have another method that is effective. New security monitors are being invented all the time.
IMHO…After the terrorists come back to Temple Mount with a vengeance, it will be time to say, ‘See! Israel was right…we will re-install the metal detector because you guys (the Al Aqsa police) aren’t able to ensure the security of Muslims visiting Temple Mount.’
The Bull says
problem is people will die. again people are being sacrificed to appease the unappeasable.
murad says
The unappeasable abject cowards are the west who blame Israel for everything even though it is obvious that the muslims start every atrocity, and they dare not blame the muslims not even one time.
Now mislims are encouraged by the west: they provoke Israel to defend itself and they know who the west will blame at once.
ElderlyZionist says
Bull, this is deliberate, willing martyrdom by Israelis. Muslims are not the only ones who sacrifice. From the beginning, it is Jewish blood that has redeemed the Land.
Karly says
My thought also. Israelis are intelligent. They had time to figure it out.
Icefront says
I wish you were right, but I’m not so certain. Israel probably had no choice due to the Jordanian embassy incident, which the Jordan authorities used to blackmail Israel.
Furthermore, not only the metal detectors were removed but also the new cameras that were installed. So I don’t think any new monitoring capability is available.
Finally, about what Mortimer said that after the next terror attack (which is only a matter of time) Israel will be justified to tighten security, that’s of course completely false. After the next terror attack, Israel will not be any more justified to protect itself (in the eyes of the Arab world) than it is now.
kessler says
“It’s not suicidal if they have another method that is effective. New security monitors are being invented all the time.”
Regardless if they have another effective method – giving in to islamic supremacist demands and handing them a victory is self-defeating. It emboldens them and proves that terror works. As Roberts says, it will only ensure we will see more of it.
At no point can the Israelis allow themselves to show signs of weakness towards those who crave their annihilation. But to my great surprise, they just did. Terrible, terrible move.
Lawrence says
You are surprised? Bibi caved to Obama and Kerry for years. Nothing new here.
Gamaliel says
It is suicidal because it sends the message that if you riot and kill Israelis they will bow down to you.
paul says
islamophobia causes death… Wrong decision. How many must die till the detectors are reinstalled?
Ask a dead white girl in Minnesota who died because of islamophobia.
Dum Spiro says
Harm-a-gettin’.
Maybe not…
— Spero
Arthur Brociner says
The Israeli Cabinet urgently needs mental detectors.
Lydia says
Warning: Danger ahead.
WorkingClassPost says
Just goes to show how much pressure must have been brought to bear on the Israelis..
I’m sure it’s only a tactical withdrawal, but looks really bad for now.
And besides, metal detectors outside mosks seems like a pretty good idea, can’t see what objections a religion of peace could possibly have?
It might even prevent all those naughty far-right islamofobes from rushing in and slitting throats while shouting allah akbah…
.
mortimer says
Yes, a tactical retreat. They have an ace or two up their sleeves.
Donovan Nuera says
…or better yet; industrial X-ray beam at queue entrance pointed up their thobes/robes/niqabs to secretly fry their genitals…
paul says
so who would notice not getting pregnant? His sister?
Rev g says
Beat me to it, great idea.
dumbledoresarmy says
The pressure that was brought to bear involved a Jewish Israeli security guard at the Israeli embassy in Jordan.
Muslims attacked the embassy.
The guard, rightfully, shot at the attackers and killed one of them. Self-defence.
Upon which, he was *arrested* and basically held hostage by the Mohammedans of the fake state (recently invented) of ‘Jordan’. Who knows what horrid little ‘king’ Abdullah threatened to do to that Jewish guy, IF Israel did not remove the metal detectors.
The Jewish Israeli security guard was *used as a bargaining chip* – used to twist Israel’s arm.
The damn mohammedans probably told Netanyahu that they would torture and/ or KILL the Israeli if the metal detectors were not removed.
Mohammedans always, always, always play the hostage game. They are extortionists; they have always been kidnapping people and holding them to ransom.
Israel should *end* all diplomatic relations with Jordan and, for good measure, remove all Israelis from every other mohammedan-majority country where they are present for business or diplomacy (not many) and tell ALL Jews worldwide to refrain from entering *any* Mohammedan country (e.g. Turkey) as tourists or for any other reason. Where there are no Jews to grab and hold hostage, the hostage game cannot be played. (This is why the absence of Jews from places like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen and Egypt gives Israel a *much* freer hand when dealing with those particular pits of Islamothuggery; there are no dhimmi Jewish communites there any more, that can be threatened by the mohammedans in order to extort concessions).
If Israel had had no embassy in Jordan the government of Jordan could not have seized upon this chance to twist Israel’s arm. I BET the attack on the embassy was *intended* to provoke a response that could then be used as an excuse to arrest an infidel for harming a mohammedan.
Personally, I think that Israel is under NO obligation to honour the agreement. The moment that Israeli Jewish security guard is safely back on sovereign Israeli turf, the metal detectors should go right back in place – and Israel should, at the same time, publicly denounce the mohammedans for engaging in extortion, their ‘holding to ransom’ of the Jewish Israeli security guard.
paul says
Let them. Pick up 100 of the usual suspects, get their guilt confession, and dispose of them. Off to the work camp.
It it happens again, pick up 200..
Worked for Stalin when he looked for a rapist. The second group picked up, and the rapes stopped.
ElderlyZionist says
Thanks for the insight, DDA. Diplomatic relations with Muslim countries are extremely risky. They always treat ambassadors and other visiting foreigners as hostages and scapegoats. I wouldn’t set foot in Dar ul-Islam, but brave men and women do, when they must.
trish says
Classic. Some cretin of an Imam somewhere has declared that metal detectors prevent Muslims’ prayers from reaching Allah. How convenient.
And these morons believe this, of course.
Raymond Hietapakka says
Now’s the time to just get it over with. Pick your side.
Westman says
Given the past performance of Israeli technology, “smart surveillance” may entail more than the obvious.
WorkingClassPost says
Yes, they’re probably get some very sophisticated kit to do the job more discretely, but I think the point is that violence and threats seem to get results, yet again.
Donovan Nuera says
Array of small hydraulic jacks will slowly turn al-Aqsa mosque 180 degrees so they pray away from Mecca. Psych!!
murad says
The west is ready to provide the same technology to muslims so that the conflict will continue.
Ren says
Too bad!
Nigel GFF says
It most certainly is, especially as Mr Spencer points it being a ‘terrible precedent’.
Israel contra mundum.
Not one of the news outlets I watched (mainly TV) had anything sympathetic to say. Not one offer of sympathy for the dead security personnel or offers of ideas for improving security. Israel has a duty to secure itself and damn the world (with a few, a very few exceptions).
Daniel Triplett says
This should please Jared Kushner, the President’s primary advisor for all things Israel. Kushner’s priority is bullying Israel into concessions to the PA, with a Two-state solution as the only outcome he’ll accept.
Meanwhile, Kaffirs are severely losing WWIII, a war we have not yet even admit exists, and Dar al-Islam is consuming the planet like wildfire.
And DJT continues to believe Sunni Gulf states are our “allies.”
Aside from Bannon, the President is surrounded by Islamofools. We’re driving in the wrong direction at 90 mph. For God’s Sake, somebody grab the steering wheel and hit the brakes.
Donovan Nuera says
Replace Kushner with Coulter; smart, principled, fearless, funny, and relentless in verbally destroying leftists jihadis with Truth….
stan lee says
I believe NOW is when the fireworks will start! They, the offended ones, may have come to regard metal detectors as necessary for safe passage by all had they been left in place. Instead, appeasement became the answer to quell the reactions of the inherently homicidal people. Whether metal detectors are in place or not, Muslim hate wasn’t going to be reduced one iota. Had those same detectors been installed by a Muslim government, there would not have been a “peep” of objection raised for fear of far worse measures taken by the governing authority.
The objecting Muslims have discovered once again, that if they scream, threaten, and demonstrate, Israel will somehow placate them, setting even more of a tentative precedent in dealing with a very combustible element if the authority senses hesitation to its security policies. Israeli authorities could have just as easily asked the PA what remedy it would have applied. The PA will no doubt construe the Israeli solution as a win for PA power.
Guy Forrester says
I suspect that the violence will only increase now.
paul says
The detectors should have been halal..
overman says
Why don’t they give them $10Million as well.
Guy Forrester says
I think they are already getting more like 100 million. But then, what is a few million more between “friends”?
Voytek Gagalka says
WHAT?!?
Security Cabinet on Thursday: Metal detectors will stay in place (they will not be removed)
Security Cabinet on very next Monday: Metal detectors will be removed.
Welcome to “advanced methods and other measures” in governing the Jewish State.
And one is surprised that Mohammedans win each and every time and more and more Israelis are slaughtered? With those constantly in-and-out changing policy methods, you have the best answer! ABYSMAL MORONS!
somehistory says
They could bring in weapon sniffing dogs, bomb sniffing dogs, and see how the moslum like that. Then when the rioting ls really going, the government could say, “Okay, okay. We’ll put the metal detectors back.”
Likely the detectors would be more acceptable to those whom nothing but the evils of islum is acceptable than dogs walking about the areas.
The end of evil is fast approaching.
Mike says
I like your approach very much!
somehistory says
Thank you, very much.
Donovan Nuera says
How about those damn turnstiles that always seem to swivel at full speed at your nuts??? (“Aaaaalahumybaaaalllllllssss!!!!)
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Yeah. Don’t black dogs nullify their prayer? Good thinking.
manat bint allaha says
is there such thing as weapon sniffing pigs?
metal detectors would look like a walk to mecca afterwards.
Donovan Nuera says
How about secretly dumping a can of fleas, ticks, and Norwegian scabies on all the communal prayer rugs ??? That would be hilarious! (Then switch out black flag bug spray at nearby shops with ‘barf’ and ‘chicken fart’ joke spray…and watch even more fun!)
dumbledoresarmy says
My thought exactly.
Or just: metal detectors AND dogs, and wait out the tantrums.
FYI says
Im yirtzeh Hashem
{God willing}
And I’m betting on God…not allah …
(It’s a pretty safe bet)
What is happening at The Temple Mount is quite significant.
kessler says
Brilliant idea!!!
gravenimage says
Israel to remove metal detectors at Temple Mount
………………..
Caving to the demands of violent Jihadists is *never* a good idea. I am sorry to see this in Israel, which is usually savvier than this.
kessler says
I seriously couldn’t believe it when I read the news. Israel used to have much more backbone than this and rarely caved into the demands of those who see their annihilation.
But here we are. I wonder what will be the outcome next time Israelis are killed within Temple Mount. Maybe withdraw security completely to avoid tempting the poor dears?
Sad and utterly self-defeating….
Dan says
I’ve NEVER seen anybody rewarded for throwing a tantrum do anything other than ratchet things up worse the next time they’re told no.
Rev g says
Exactly. Even if better systems are in place, muslims will point to this concession as proof that they are right, and use it to their advantage from now on. They will let no good deed go unpunished, in perpetuity.
aVoice says
See Numbers 33:55
End Islamic domination of the Temple Mount.
Frank Anderson says
Unlike many other national governments, I suspect that Israel’s government is fully alert and ready to deal with any threat most convincingly. They understand very clearly what is at stake.
Dwayne Austin says
NYPD, along with US Customs at border checkpoints have been using Z Backscatter x-rays for several years. NYPD can see weapons in a locked car trunk just by driving around past any vehicle. You can bet the Israelis are also using it. Metal detectors are old technology. The Muslims only think they have won this one!
https://nypost.com/2015/10/13/nypd-has-secret-x-ray-vans/
AzB says
So theyre not actually saying what the new “smart less obtrusive surveillance means are” – that doesn’t mean there aren’t any. It just might not be such a great idea to explain in public how the surveillance works.
Frank Anderson says
AZB, BHO destroyed US effectiveness by constantly revealing actions and intentions to withdraw. When the public is told, so also are the terrorists. Israel like no other country knows the impact of appeasement, and should be expected to avoid that impact with actions that really disappoint the rioters. Watch and see.
RonaldB says
I adhere to the principle that the US should stop foreign aid to Israel and bug out of Israel’s affairs. The decision to discontinue the metal detectors sounds dumb, but Israel should make its own decisions. They’ll know soon enough if they made the wrong decision.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This is a very un-Israeli thing to do. I wonder what they have in mind. I hope this wasn’t an attempt at appeasement. They should know better; appeasing Mohammadins is a losing strategy.
Stella says
I feel things are going to escalate, but it’s high time Isreal takes back EVERYTHING they were told not to compromise in the first place! Isreal will never have peace if they keep thinking they can integrate with people who’s only life mission is to wipe them out! This is spiritual warfare we are dealing with, and America needs to wake up! The tactics the Muslims use have been joined with the Left in this country. We need to stop buying the lie that Islam is peaceful religion, this is satan’s army, and the only way out is Jesus Christ.
Barbara Ethel says
It is my opinion – please note that my opinion does not matter one iota anyway – that Jerusalem belongs to the Jews undivided. If out of generosity they will allow Christians to pray at their holy sites, then I say mazel tov.
Islam has its sites in Mekkah and Medina, some of which are not accessible at all those not of their faith, and no one bats an eyelid, as those restrictions are their right.
Yet as we all know, common sense does not come into it. I also think that removing the metal detectors is a big mistake. Bibi should not have backed down.
dumbledoresarmy says
Agree totally.
I’m a Christian. I would *love* to see Israel unapologetically claim and assert and exercise sovereignty over all of Jerusalem, most especially the Temple Mount. I think it’s horribly unfair that Jews can’t pray on the Temple Mount while Mohammedans do their obscene threat displays unimpeded. If all mohammedans were excluded from the place for *seven hundred years* (the same length of time that the mohammedan invaders and squatters denied Jews access to the Cave of Machpelah) it would be no more than strict justice.
And if the damn mohammedan mosques squatting on the Mount got razed to the ground- or blown to bits – or fell to bits in an earthquake – I wouldn’t shed a tear.
Barbara Ethel says
Agreed. But not happy with the status quo, and aided by UNESCO (Islamesco imo) they are trying to rewrite history. Temple Mount and the Western Wall are classified as islamic holy sites….nothing at all to do, you see, with Judaism. Never mind those sites stood about 1500 years before the advent of the evil warlord. What is next I ask you, Mozart declared islamic? The Moon landings, planned and carried out by palestinian goatherders? Comical Ali would be ashamed to utter such poppycock.
Moa says
FYI:
mazel tov = good luck/congratuations
todah = thank you
todah rabah = thank you very much
Aton says
Mazel Tov actually means Good Constellation. It means Good Fortune, via the fortune telling of the astrological zodiac.
You must remember that the central symbol of Judaism is the zodiac. Take a look at the Hamat Teverya zodiac, in the synagogue on the Sea of Galilee.
http://i45.tinypic.com/2zf6783.jpg
Aton
dumbledoresarmy says
Something to think about.
I wonder how many of us, when the initial attack occurred, and the two Druze policemen were murdered, and the metal detectors were installed, made the effort to *communicate with the Israeli embassy in our various countries* and express 1/ our solidarity with Israel and sorrow over the latest innocent victims of murderous Jihad and 2/ hearty approval of the installation of the metal detectors? We – all of us here at jihadwatch who understand that Israel is one of many infidel countries currently assailed by Jihad – should have been *encouraging* the Israelis to stand firm.
That in addition to telling *our* heads of state to **offer solidarity to Israel** in the wake of TWO heinous Muslim jihad murders (of the two Druze cops, and of the three Israeli Jews who were ritually BUTCHERED by a mohammedthug at their Sabbath dinner) **… instead of wagging fingers at them and demanding that they exercise ‘restraint’ when dealing with genocidally-murderous Mohammedan mobsters.
Every Western head of state – and a few non-western heads of state, notably PM Modi of India – should have been *publicly and loudly endorsing* Israel’s decision to require every mohammedan entering the Mount to pass through metal detectors. And even if they didn’t, they should have been told – by every one of us who resides within such western and non-western Infidel countries – to do it.
Let us all resolve, if we *didnt’ write the letters/ send the emails that we should have done… to do it, next time something like this happens.
What if Israel had received, the instant they installed those metal detectors and the muslim riots kicked off, an *avalanche* of positive messages from sympathetic and mostly non-jewish people like us from all over the western world and beyond (especially from India)? Imagine if they had had even one message of solidarity from an infidel *head of state* saying ‘Good move; long overdue; totally necessary and rational; hold your ground; DO NOT give the mohammedans what they want; if they riot, just keep on hitting them over the heads with a 2X4, good and hard, until they stop.”?
(Same principle applies of course to *any* infidel country that is 1/ attacked by mohammedans and then 2/ institutes some sort of security-related response that the mohammedans then start screeching about.
Miriam Feldstein Case says
How many ways can one spell STUPID !
Anne Smith says
Perhaps we should all start screaming and yelling about these metal detectors at airports and get rid of the infuriating security measures affecting all or us which were only introduced because of Muslims blowing up planes and flying into buildings.
I forgot – they would still blow up planes and fly into buildings, so perhaps we should get rid of the metal detectors and not allow Muslims near an airport – or a concert hall, or the main road, or pedestrian walkways by the sea, or bars, or bridges across the Thames or Parliament, or just about anywhere. Then we might be just a little bit safer.
Looks like we are stuck with the metal detectors, hope Israel has something to replace them with.
Aton says
Might be a terrible decision, but the only people allowed on the Temple Mount are Muslims and tourists. Jews are not allowed there. So if the Pals blow up the Temple Mount, it will be them who suffer (either directly, or via the wrath of the world for blowing up tourists).
Aton
John says
In the eyes of Arabs the removal of the metal detectors is their victory and shows the weakness of the Israelis. And you know what? They are right!
CCTV cameras, even with sophisticated software, are not able to replace metal detectors. Trust me. I worked with some of the systems.
Police had to fight the rioters, and kill a few of them. This make no sense if the demands of the rioters are fulfilled.
But anyway. Bibi also gave in to Turkey. After sending the Navy to stop the illegal breach of the blockade of Gaza by a turkish ship. Even he knew that the killings were necessary to free hostages taken by the turkish crew, and to save the hostages lives, he bowed to Erdogans demands. More than that he blamed the soldiers for the incident.
Bibi has no spine at all!
Baucent says
Everyone is assuming the Israelis always wanted the metal detectors, perhaps they didn’t, and the metal detector response was a straw man, they would trade for what they really wanted, CCTV and other electronic means. They give the Arabs a “win” and still gain what they really wanted. You can be sure any increase in surveilance prior to the Policemen being killed would have equally been opposed by the PA.
DiMu says
Flatten the mosque! Or better still, flatten the black, pagan rock at Mecca. That will give them something to focus their attention of for a while.
This head-in-the-san says
Although I was gobsmacked when Isreal bowed to the Pals’ demands, I have more faith in Israel’s dealing with terror than any other nation.
The Palestinians are a blood cult, a fetid network of terrorist lairs, supporters, one being Iran. Needless to say, the Western dullards have the prescience of road-kill, censuring Israel’s right to protect its sovereignty and the security of its citizenry. Islamists were celebratory with the heinous murders of the Israeli family and the slaying of other Israelis.
There is a death-wish held over Israel’s head, by the leftist Israeli scourge and those scattered about this forlorn planet. The State of Israel will survive but solely by its courage, tenacity, intelligence and its cognizance of the inner-working of this terrorist contagion, unlike those of the Western Democracies.
Pumbar says
Almost certainly being replaced by RF Capture and Wi-Vi, this “X-ray vision” technology is way cheaper than metal detectors and can see people’s images through walls. It can even perform facial recognition behind obstacles.
Hari Singh says
The rejection of the metal detectors on the Temple Mount is nothing new. The Muslims want complete control of the Temple Mount with no infidel access like Mecca and Medina.
There have been tensions and clashes over modifications by Israeli Jews before. In 1928 the Rabbis set up a partition wall at the Kotel-Wailing Wall” and it was deemed ”New construction” by Muslim religious leaders.
The Mandate Authority , the British had to send in riot police and tensions continued for over a year with the Grand Mufti accusing the Jews of trying to occupy Al-Aqsa Mosque. Somethings never change.
Tom says
I never thought I would see the day that Israel cowed down to Islamic bullying and intimidation tactics, as we have seen in other countries.
Israel has been a beacon of strength in dealing with Islamic terror and palestinian aggression but this move has dhown some weakness which will be fully exploited by their enemies. Wrong move Israel !!
Mike says
Israel , usually , always have something on their mind . I believe , here , too. I’m not afraid of what they are doing . Muslims should though .
Steven says
Up the arses,…. those pedo-loving muslims