Canada gallops forward into multicultural harmony and peace, which will apparently be characterized by strict adherence to Sharia.
“Time To Fight the Sharia Fine!,” by Faith Goldy, Rebel Media, July 10, 2017:
Recently, we were introduced to John Alabi, a 52 year old Ontario man, who is being issued a sharia ticket for $12,000 by this province’s Human Rights Tribunal.
Some background: John is a Christian who came to Canada 22 years ago from Nigeria. Since then, he’s followed Canadian laws and worked hard; he carries not one but two jobs today, just to ensure his family is cared for.
John’s a man with the sort of story every Canadian should be proud of.
But instead, he’s being labelled a human rights violator.
John is now being ordered to pay an Arab Muslim couple, his former tenants, a whopping $12K for a failure to accommodate their religion — all because John didn’t remove his shoes when showing the bedroom where this couple prayed to potential new occupants.
So, The Rebel started a crowdfunding mission at HelpJohn.ca to get John Alabi the money he needed to pay the jizya. But we heard from Rebel supporters who said they wanted to help John — but not in this way.
Our supporters wanted to help John fight, not give in.
And so, we went back to John with your feedback.
As many of you know, John has not had it easy. For two years, John has been racking up legal fees and spent an inordinate amount of time combatting the case filed by Walid Madkour and his wife Heba Ismail.
His difficulties were compounded when he lost his young son during the proceedings.
But now, John says he’s ready to get back in the ring against Ontario’s Human Rights Tribunal, under one condition: We help him pay his legal fees.
The total cost of his legal fees which include the Request for Reconsideration, Divisional Court and Appeals will be $8000+HST ($9040).
So now it’s time we live up to our promise. If you want to be a part of this important fight to appeal a dangerous Sharia precedent from being set in Canada, please contribute at HelpJohn.ca!
somehistory says
This is truly disgusting. No justice from this *court*. Their judgment is coming soon for enabling evil to prosper at the terrible expense of the innocent.
john spielman says
this needs to be appealed because “human rights?” tribunals are modeled after the courts of nazi judge Roland Freisler! the judge is the judge jury and the prosecution!
somehistory says
His attorney should point to the streets of Boston, Paris, London, etc to the moslums *preying* in the streets where people walk and cars drive and dogs and horses run…and say something about the absurdity of it all.
Could all those *trespassers* against the unholy…including the feral cats and dogs…be fined?
These scum from satan use everything…even the absurdly evil…to carry on for their fake god.
traci94 says
Good points!!
John Forbes says
SHARIA for ONTARIO NEXT !! I am sure JUSTIN TRUDEAU & KHALID will be pleased !
boakai ngombu says
indeed the attorney should point to the other places of prayer you mention.
in the village the people were taught that anywhere they said prayers became holy ground … that a prayer mat could be considered a mosque.
not only that, in another place and not the village, people were taught that anywhere the prayers are said – any place – can be claimed to belong to the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers).
so the renters made that apartment holy and something that could be contaminated and disgraced, making the allah god mad, should that occur.
the renters base their complaint upon “religion.”
t says
Wow, somehistory!
That’s really a very obvious good point to make.
somehistory says
Thank you traci94, t and boakai ngombu/
Lauren Hermann says
I couldn’t have said it better. The longer our governments keep giving in and appeasing these people, this cancer on the human race called islam, will metastasize to the breaking point and we will have a real civil war.
TH says
I really like how to write “preying” which is certainly correct and also implies that Islamic “prayer” is basically a hoax, in such case a political act ad zero worship of the false moon god Allah, who in any case only wants to convert the rest of humanity into his slaves.If they are not willing to oblige, then he gloats in seeing them burn in the flames of the Islamic hell, which is mostly populated by women, as the moon god reveals via his war lord, paedophile, Mafia boss false prophet.
Berengaria says
Thanks John, Human Rights Commissions in the USA, operate on the the same Principle of Nazi era Courts. For years we had a Former CAIR PRESIDENT placed on the HRC, by a Pro-Muslim Ex-Mayor. The Council members, who had to Vote, were singled out by name in our Local Newpaper & “encouraged”to vote For this FORMER CAIR !
He quickly took over his new Role as “Muslim in Chief” with other Minorities. The HRC is generally feared by Americans, for being NAZI/LIKE.
So the Poor Man in Canada has many, many kindred Souls, in USA.
The Phrase “HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION” should be “Purged” from our Language.
john spielman says
it’s even worse!- there is almost 100% CONVICTION RATES in these neo NAZI courts
mortimer says
This lawsuit is frivolous. It is pure HYPERBOLE to say ‘POISONED HOUSING ENVIRONMENT’. Were traces of actual POISON found anywhere? Were the traces of poison analyzed in the police laboratory? Where was the ‘poison’ placed exactly? What is the SCIENTIFIC NAME of this ‘POISON’.
Or is the entire lawsuit simply VERBAL JIHAD and HOT, MALODOROUS, STEAMING PILES of TAQIYYA. This is a money-grubbing witch hunt for the clients and for the unscrupulous lawyer.
Bill McKenzie says
He’s going to lose the appeal if laws in Canada are anything like the US. My wife comes from a Buddhist culture and we have a no-shoes policy in our home. No one comes in our home with their shoes on. We have a caddy by the front door where people can put their shoes and complementary slippers for those who want them. A mans home is his castle, and again, nobody comes in my castle with their shoes on unless they have a gun and a warrant. In the US renters have rights too. I have NEVER had ANYONE object to our house rules or complain because they thought I was forcing “religion” on them. I also notice that the prospective renters had the grace to take off their shoes as requested and that it was just the landlord who refused. Were I a prospective renter and witnessed this landlords utter disregard for my rights as a renter, I would have not even bothered continuing the inspection.
Dave says
But that does not justify such absurd compensation. If they don;t like his attitude find another house. fk off.
Bill McKenzie says
If someone came in my home and dis’ed my wife that way, I would not stop at the fine, I’d sue the assholes pants off, which is my right.
Bill McKenzie says
If someone came in my home and dis’ed my wife that way, I would not stop at the fine, I’d sue the assholes pants off, which is my right.
Susan B says
Buddhist my a$$, you sound like a mohammedan troll. I raise your taqiyya with 2 doses of truth.
Jason Compson says
He’s a mighty courageous soul, offering to defend his wife’s alleged honor with a lawsuit. Reminds me of stories I read in grad school about Joyce going into bars and insulting people, then letting Hemingway go outside and do the fighting.
Bill McKenzie says
Actually I am a Christian, and I hate Islam, (but I do not hate Muslims, I see them as victims of a disease). I was taught to hate sin, not the sinner. I post here on and off when I find a particular article that strikes my interest and spend most of my time trying to minister to Muslims and teach them about Christianity in another forum. The landlord in this case, while claiming to be a Christian, (and I am not saying he is not), was hot demonstrating the mind of Christ very well and deserved the punishment he received.
Rev g says
Deserved pubishment? Not very Christ like, is that? Christ, who even sought forgiveness for his tormentors and killers.
Bill McKenzie says
Rev g – the courts ruling was judicial, not vindictive. Jesus said: “Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.”
old white guy says
silly man. I will not go into any house where I am required to remove my shoes. your floors are just as dirty as everyone else’s.
somehistory says
I agree. Anyone who claims to be Christian, but enforces the religious dictates of another religion is confused about what Jesus Christ taught.
Taking ones’ shoes off out of respect for clean floors is one thing. Taking them off because someone’s religion calls for it, is another.
I don’t worship according to what someone else believes.
And when one is forced to take off shoes or pay a fine, the slope is slippery for other forcings in the name of this *religion*.
Bill McKenzie says
Anyone who thinks that because they are a Christian, it gives them the right to stomp dirt into another persons house, lacks Christian understanding imo. If there was any question, which I seriously doubt, I would make it clear by saying “I will honor your request not to wear my street shoes in your house, out of respect of your home, not because I respect your religion”.
somehistory says
Christians are not required to *respect* another person’s *religion.* Christians are to respect the *right* of another to choose whether to have a religion and, if so, which one.
And to *respect* another person requires that Christians not force the Christian belief on that person. If we are not to force Christianity, we certainly are not to force a different belief, a different *faith.*
To take one’s shoes off so as not to track mud, etc. is not worship of a “god.* To refrain from using tobacco, strong drink, etc. because someone asks us to do so, is not worship…unless they tell us it is.
Paul said that “whatever you find in a meat market, eat.” He didn’t say go to a temple or other religious building and eat foods they were sacrificing to their idols.
If you force guests to your home to remove their shoes to *respect* the religion of your wife, you are forcing them to participate in her religious belief. That is not something a person with a correct understanding of Jesus’ commands would do.
If your wife has worked all day to get her floors clean, and a guest arrives with muddy shoes, asking them to respect your wife and her work is not asking them to participate in her religion. To make them aware that it is her religious belief and they must take part or not come in, gives them the choice of taking part or not. But Christianity does not give license to force another to take part in any religion or religious custom.
The moslums don’t care, really, about what any other person wants or doesn’t want. Their intent is to force everyone to bow to their beast. If you agree with what they are doing, what does that say about your faith in Christ? Do you honestly think they would have any *respect* for your wife or her belief? Or for you and yours?
PRCS says
My wife is from the Philippines.
Removing one’s shoes before entering a home is a customary act in that culture—not a religious requirement.
We take our shoes off for that reason and to keep the carpet clean.
But a lawsuit?
Berengaria says
WOULD YOU also seek Financial Compensation for your “Hurt feelings”?
American men usually do not take off their shoes, when entering a residence, but we will be expecting to see your “NEW” Lawsuit in our Newspapers, soon!
Tershia says
All this ‘violence’ over a pair of shoes! Not everyone’s culture is aware of your shoeless house policy. Besides, it was John’s house, not the radical Muslims’.
Canada’s Human Rights Tribunal is aptly names – it is similar to Communist and Nazi interrogation goon squads.
Turdeau is his socialist father’s son and has betrayed Canadians.
Before long we will be required to wear bhurkas
gravenimage says
Bill, you may believe that enforcing Shari’ah law is good for Buddhists, but you are *quite* mistaken.
Bill McKenzie says
Buddhsim has noting to do with Sharia or the worship of God. Following Buddhist teaching on keeping a clean home is no different than following Betty Crocker’s teachings on how to bake a cake.
Thomas says
Just like Sweden, England, and France, Canada is finished. It is only a matter of time before the old girl falls and falls hard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wake up people………….
mortimer says
Agree with SH: This is disgusting. The court is telling landowners that their land does not belong to them if a Muslim lives on it.
This is the imposition of Dhimmitude. The dhimmi is inferior to the Muslim in all cases.
Carolyne says
I wouldn’t rent to a Muslim. It would take years to get the smell of garlic out of the house. Probably have to have the Haz Mat people come to clear it out.
gravenimage says
Many non-Muslims cook with garlic.
The big threat from Islam is not the use of garlic. I wish it were!
old white guy says
these tribunals are not really courts. refuse to do as they say and see which police force shows up at your door. refuse to attend and see who comes to arrest you. ask them are they prepared to die to take your freedom from you?
carol says
So are you saying the landlord should have just failed to attend the Tribunal?
brenrod says
I want a wall on the northern border to keep out those lunatics
john spielman says
I believe that i read somewhere this court has nearly 100% conviction rate- just like the Nazi / communist kangaroo courts
gravenimage says
True. Mark Steyn is one of the few who fought them and won.
tedh754 says
Just no end to the kowtowing jackkasses, is there?
Ace-of-Clubs says
How did this even get to court ? Typical whingeing Muslims, always playing the victim. I hope this ridiculous ruling can be overturned, and that the man’s legal fees will be covered, in fact he deserves compensation. the Muslims should be punished for wasting police and court’s time.
gravenimage says
The “Human Rights Commission” in Canada is notorious for enforcing Shari’ah.
Jan III Sobieski says
Islamic intolerance reigns supreme in Canada (and elsewhere).
Ali Bey says
fake god. All gods are fake
Susan B says
I will agree with you that allah is a fake god. Nothing fake about the God of love.
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
Amen. This is a false (fake) so called religion. It has nothing to do with God but with Satan.
PRCS says
Contributed.
Just bitching about it does nothing to help him.
StacyGirl says
Did you read the piece? You can contribute to his defence.
PRCS says
Contributed.
Past tense.
gravenimage says
Excellent, PRCS.
StacyGirl says
Right
mortimer says
This should be fought right up to the Supreme Court of Canada. Supremacism is not acceptable. Muslims will end up being the most deplored group in the world in every country.
Richard says
and the exact same people that support this judgement would no doubt also support Pussy Riot and complain that the Russian authorities are heavy handed – double standards indeed.
James says
The Russian authorities did the right thing. The behaviour of Pussy Riot was a disgrace.
notmoron says
Liberal /Islamic marriage.
This will have happy ending soon
Jerry says
What about John’s right to not have to conform to the religious beliefs of others? doesn’t he have rights too? If the “human rights” tribunal is worried about religious sensitivity then why don’t they condemn the bigotry and hatred in the koran and hadith against all non-muslims? Islam is violent and hateful toward the “infidel” as a religious ordinance. Why aren’t they fining muslim leaders for proffering such bigoted filth?
And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah…koran-8:039
Shouldn’t non-muslims have the right to not be intimidated and murdered for the muslim religion? Why is it that muslims can nurture as divine truth their ideas of hatred, bigotry and murder while a non-muslim gets his reputation and finances destroyed for wearing a pair of shoes? Why is it that muslims can promote sharia that violate basic human rights while a man performing his occupation is denied his fundamental right to dignified dress? Why is it that a muslim’s floor is afforded more respect than John’s right to not make a symbolic gesture of faith for another man’s god? More bluntly, why must John’s dignity be worth less than the religious delusions of a sick and violent religion? bizarre. The tribunal did not defend human rights here, it has denied human rights by demanding that John perform a humiliating show of respect for a religion that teaches, promotes, and condones terrorism as divine truth. This seems like an odd way to defend human rights.
It’s obvious to me what’s happening, western leaders are cowering to islamic bigotry out of fear and political gain. They don’t care about human rights or democracy, they prefer to shill for islam in the name of multiculturalism to destroy our freedoms and gain more power over us. I dare to suggest that John’s right to be irreligious in the performance of his occupation is greater than a muslim’s right to impose their religious beliefs on him. As an atheist I find it especially appalling that anyone could be denied the dignity of wearing their own shoes for some made-up violent demon called “allah.” Allah can suck my shoe and something else too, and so can every muslim who thinks I gotta show that filthy beast the slightest respect.
carol says
Well said Jerry. The landlord’s civil rights should supersede any implied Landlord Tenant rights. He’s performing a function and is not there on a social call and I should think he need not have to explain why he did not wish to remove his shoes. Perhaps he had on smelly socks that day and didn’t wish the others to know?
A $12,000 fine sends a message of oppression and should not be tolerated by the public.
Crimelord Canada says
Here’s the decision if one wishes to rea: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onhrt/doc/2017/2017hrto436/2017hrto436.html
Jerry says
[98] …There is no evidence that the applicants’ request that the respondent remove his shoes would have impeded his ability to show the apartment or to rent it to prospective tenants.
Well that may be true, it probably wouldn’t have “impeded” the landord’s “ability to show the apartment.” But the same goes for the muslims, neither would keeping his shoes on have prevented those muslims from worshipping their demon. So what the f*ck is the problem with his shoes? Accommodating muslims should only mean we allow them to worhip their demon god unhindered, it should not mean we have to kowtow with humbling shows of respect ourselves. Would it be fair to demand a muslim landlord to make the sign of the cross for Jesus?
And I like the part that says, “At the hearing, the applicants testified that they felt humiliated, disrespected and insulted by the respondent’s actions.”
lol, what about the landlord’s feelings? How did he feel when imposed upon to make a religious observance for another man’s god? How did he feel when nothing he did was good enough to work around the childish and unyielding religious beliefs of these tenants? Ya know, if these particular muslims had any religious goodness or wisdom they would have cared more about the landlord as a person than they did his shoes. But islam doesn’t teach kindness to the infidel, it’s babyish, narcissistic, brutish,, demanding, and ignorant.
It’s so obvious this decision was biased in favor of the muslims. It seems to me the landlord was operating within the confines of the law, why should muslims be afforded special accommodation over Canadian law? And why should muslims be afforded more consideration than Christians, Jews, or atheists? Well we know why, because many, many, muslims are violent and aggressive for their religion. And our leaders have decided that bowing to their demon god is far easier than standing tall for freedom and human rights. Nothing to be proud of here.
carol says
I read half the ruling and it’s pretty clear that it is the landlord who’s being harassed. Another case of the fox guarding the chicken coop.
Minutes1234 says
Yes.
WorkingClassPost says
Thanks for that link, CC.
Rev g says
What?! We’re they pigskin shoes with cured bacon soles? This is outrageous.
Minutes1234 says
Yes.
moeped says
I heard that this is why they are here – to take and take and weaken us from within. Could it be true? Noooo waaaayyyy.
Ewanda says
The Ontario Human Rights Commission awarded husband Walid Madkour $6,000 and awarded his wife Heba Ismail an equal award of $6,000. If the Commission was so devoted to recognizing the sanctity of Islamic Sharia, Heba Ismail should only have gotten $3,000 thus at least saving Mr, Alabi $3,000!! I don’t understand how these pseudo courts arrive at a particular value for any presumed injustice but this case has definitely got to be appealed successfully for all our sakes. Who wants 2.5% of $12,000 to go to jihad anyway?
Mark A says
It’s about time to rein in the “Human Rights Commissions” or eliminate them altogether.
This kind of draconian rubbish is completely unacceptable.
tgusa says
I’ve had enough of these stinking life destroying weasels. No quarter, never, not anymore.
tgusa says
Hunt them like the rabid that they are and never mind the consequences.
tgusa says
rabid dogs
Michael Copeland says
“As dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog”,
Winston Churchill
tgusa says
Peacefully of course. These fools tend to live in our (safe) neighborhoods. On the right making someone unwelcome is an easy and non violent affair. On the left, not so much, have you noticed?
Bill McKenzie says
WOW!
tgusa says
WOW!
If you don’t mind me asking, Is that a good wow or a bad wow?
Bill McKenzie says
Well, my wife is Buddhist and she has a no-shoes policy in our home. Nobody comes in our home with their shoes on. I think in the US renters have rights too. I’ve never had anyone object to taking off their shoes to enter our home. It is not an unreasonable request.
James McNulty says
Screw the no shoes policy. I just would say no thanks and leave. Tell your wife that in civilized countries people don’t shit in the streets like India.
Bill McKenzie says
No, you walk in street grime and then track it all over your house like a dirty filthy American. The landlord should have said no thanks and left.
Susan B says
Sorry Bill we are onto you. You are a mohammedan troll. Buddhist are nice people and muslims are not. Again taqiyya anyone.
gravenimage says
“Dirty filthy American”? Is that like “filthy Kuffar”?
Bill McKenzie says
Actually I was just replying to a vulgar asshole with sarcasm
PETER RICHARD FERGUSON says
I’ve never had anyone object to taking off their shoes to enter our home. It is not an unreasonable request.
The reasonableness of the request is not the issue. Let’s just assume that the muslim’s side of the story is 100% accurate
The issue is: If Canada is a free country then people have the right to be assholes without government sanction. The landlord broke no laws by entering his own home with his shoes on: He was simply rude Do you really believe that the Canadian government should fine people $12,000 for being rude? Do you really want “politeness” to be considered a human right?
gravenimage says
+1
Jerry says
It seems to me, Bill, that those who have taken it “over the top” are these unruly muslims and that “human rights” tribunal. Punishing this landlord with a fine for his shoes was an act of religious compulsion during the performance of his occupation. Had it been a case of the landlord dirtying a newly cleaned carpet one could understand a cleaning charge, but this was strictly a case of religious supremacy over secular rights. And the notion that these muslims would have had to clean the carpet as some kind of spiritual cleansing is laughable, insulting, and a little racist too. Imagine how John felt being degraded with the idea that he was somehow spiritually unclean because of his shoes. Imagine how John felt being video taped in front of a prospective new tenant and made a spectacle of. Imagine how John felt when he did everything good and right according to tenant law but still get’s financially raped for islam. Would it have been fair to expect these tenants to kneel or cross themselves for Jesus when they entered the lease office to sign the lease? and could the landlord have sued if they hadn’t? No, we can be sure things would have been quite different, that landlord would have been sued for denying those muslims the right to equal consideration free of religious compulsion.
It doesn’t matter if it’s removing the shoes, or crossing ones self, or any other gesture, they are all symbolic acts of obeisance. If someone insists I remove my shoes to keep the carpet clean I’d probably comply, but for a violent and ignorant religion (or any other religion for that matter) then they can kiss my a$$ and so can their god.
Don’t forget to take your shoes off Bill. Ya don’t want your Buddhist wife to kick you out. lol 😉
Jerry says
The landlord should charge them $12k to remove the spiritual stain of allah out of that carpet. Now that’s a god that can really stink things up!
So much blood and death for immoral muhammad. So much suffering for evil allah. Can you imagine having to walk into that room where people actually prayed to those beasts!
I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them. ~koran
I’m a “disbeliever.” What about my human rights?
carol says
Bill.. nowadays there’s more to fear from inside a home than outside it e.g. bedbugs and their eggs with bedrooms being the preferred retreat. And these bugs favor cloth e.g. like socks and wood materials over leather e.g. shoes, plastic, metal etc. This landlord is within his rights to keep on his shoes and he does not deserve to be imposed upon e.g. to give an OCD tenant additional notices. You don’t keep prospective tenants waiting about when they’re good enough to even show up and kangaroo courts should not exist that encourage OCD idiots.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Drive the political left from power and a lot of these problems will simply go away.
Bill McKenzie says
I just want to throw in that I admire Jihad Watch and I visit here often. Some of the comments have gone over the top, and you got this story way wrong IMO. (see my comments above).
WorkingClassPost says
You are absolutely right, Bill, but…
The issue here is that the tenants have taken a perfectly reasonable request for visitors to their apartment (including the owner), to remove outdoor shoes when entering, and unnecessarily introduced a religious element in order to make it a ‘Human Rights’ issue, involving a non-muslim’s compulsion to adhere to a muslim’s ‘religious’ practices.
It is a shameful and shame-faced attempt to set a legal precedent regarding sharia compliance, and should be defended as such.
Bill McKenzie says
So its OK to request people take their shoes off as long as the motivation is not religious? Sorry, I don’t buy that either. Renters rights are based on human rights.
WorkingClassPost says
It’s OK to request people to take their shoes off, period.
You mention the word motivation, and that’s the point.
The landlord was there as part of his legitimate business activities, he was not there to pray or perform any other religious ritual, so introducing religious observance as somehow defining the event is neither necessary nor appropriate, and is more likely an infringement on the landlord’s human rights – he is, after all, identified as being a Christian.
Aardvark says
Well, on the one hand I agree with Bill McKenzie – on the other hand the compensation awarded is way over the top. A token fine, plus the order to take the “Human Rights in Rental Housing” course would have been sufficient.
Bill McKenzie says
I agree, if the court had just found him “guilty” that would have satisfied me. Compensatory and punitive damages are better addressed in a civil proceeding. After I won, then I would have sued him for for my wife’s mental anguish and all the time she had to spend in counselling to learn to deal with it, and for appropriate punitive damages, 10 times the medical costs and maybe even throw in loss of consortium just for good measure. This guy got off easy.
Susan B says
Bill or should I say mohammad. You are over the top as most muslims are.
WorkingClassPost says
Susan, I think Billy is just being silly.
He did say that JW readers go over the top from time to time, and I guess this his way of making the point.
Or maybe not…
Bill McKenzie says
Actually I am very serious. Its my house! if some jerk claiming to be a Christian comes, repeatedly, saying “because I am a Christian I get to stop dirt all over your house”, refuses to repent and ask my forgiveness, then I would sue him for everything I could get. Not only has he insulted my wife, (which I would take very seriously), he has also insulted my Savior.How such action can be seen as anything but the most rude behavior is beyond me.
somehistory says
You seem to have a twisted view of Christians…not including yourself, of course.
I know many who believe in Christ. I have never, never ever, had one come to my home and say anything like, “Because I’m Christian, I can do this or that…stomp dirt, etc.”
True Christians don’t flaunt their belief and don’t intentionally insult others as though being Christian gives certain rights to be rude or unkind. On the contrary, Christians are to show love and kindness.
I’m thankful that I have no need to go inside your home. I wouldn’t intentionally dirty your floors, but more importantly, I wouldn’t wish to engage in religion with your wife. BTW, I have removed my shoes because I was asked to help keep the wood floors clean, not because the lady of the house was not Christian….she was.
And seriously, if your wife needs counseling because someone doesn’t want to worship as she does, she needs help before it happens. You should ask someone to explain Christ to her.
Bill McKenzie says
My wife IS a Christian. FYI Buddhism is not a religion in the sense that there is any “God” connected with its teachings and the basic precepts of Buddhism are not incongruent with Christianity. As with Christianity, there are many, (even more) schools of thought. Where my wife is form there are many Buddhists which are also Christian. Keeping a clean home from a Buddhist philosophy is associated with cleanliness and nothing to do with the worship of God.
somehistory says
Christ said that one cannot serve two masters. One cannot be both Christian and Buddhist.
If your wife, and you by enforcing her no shoes rule, are observant of Buddhist *culture*, you are going against what Christ Himself said.
Whether or not Buddhists recognize a *God*..guess modern worshippers threw out buddha since I read up on the religion…is not the point.
If you use Buddhism as a way to keep your house clean to the point that you force all visitors to your home to take off their shoes…out of respect for your wife’s Buddhist *culture* you violate the rights of those people to worship as they see fit…or not worship at all.
True Christians see fit to keep clean also, but don’t force people to worship with them. When Mary and Martha were cooking a meal, and Mary was listening to Jesus speak, Martha was upset that she was not helping more in the kitchen. Jesus told her, ” Martha, Only a few things are necessary, or only one (meaning one dish, one food). Mary chose the better portion ( more important).” (Luke 10:41-42).
It isn’t necessary to have the floor clean to the point of obsessing and causing people to feel unwelcome. Or to force worship.
One cannot mix religious belief and still be true to Christ and His Father. They have both stated such throughout the Bible.
moslums don’t sue because they are *damaged.* they sue to get the money they feel is owed to them because they are moslum.
Christians don’t file such law suits.
Bill McKenzie says
Well, all I can say is that I’m glad you are not God. BTW, who are those people on Jesus right hand to whom he says “enter into heaven” who reply “Jesus, we don’t ever remember serving you?” Ever read the parable of the good Buddhist? (Ya, I know, they were Samaritans but the same principle applies imo) If I were you, I’d be concerned that I was not one of the ones saying “Lord, Lord!” when He casts them into hell saying “I never knew you”.
somehistory says
Hey, bill,
I’m not the One Who said a person cannot serve two masters. I’m not the One Who commands that there should be no other gods “before” Him.
If you don’t like the facts, take it up with My Lord and My God. They are the Ones Who make the rules about what being a Christian means.
You are the one insisting that a person must take off their shoes out of respect for your wife’s religion or you will sue them. Imagine Jesus doing that…NOT!
And your claim that those who follow buddha and the Samaritans are the same…doesn’t even make sense. You are the one not wishing to be hospitable to those who enter with shoes on. That’s more like the two that crossed over and refused to help the injured man, whom the Samaritan did help.
I’ve never asked anyone to remove their shoes in my home. Some people have, even strangers, because they felt comfortable in my home.
You are really confused about what Jesus meant in those verses. Get some help from someone who has a better understanding and quit trying to mix your Buddhism with Jesus’ Commandments. They are not the same. A person who understands will not base his faith on his own opinions, but on what Christ and Jehovah say are correct.
And like the “two masters” verses, and the advice to Martha, that i quoted before, that’s not my *opinion*…humble or otherwise; it’s from the Bible.
Bill McKenzie says
Again, you twist the scripture by taking it out of context and only quoting part of it. The part you left out says you cannot serve God and money – those are the two masters he was talking about. Would you tell someone who takes a cooking class that their teacher is in some way a substitute for God? lol – your position is non-sequitur. .Your quote Has nothing to do with keeping a clean home or politely requesting someone take their shoes off before entering home You strain at a gnat and sallow a camel.
You did not answer my question, who are those people on Jesus right hand to whom He tells to enter heaven, and they say to Him “We don’t ever remember serving you?” – Who are they? What is the difference between them and those who will say “Lord Lord we did many great things in your name” to whom he says “depart into hell – I never knew you!”
Bill McKenzie says
I don’t expect you to answer the question, so I’ll tell you what I think. The difference is that those who say “Lord, Lord” and didn’t do the will of the Father. That could mean people who act like assholes and call other people “scum” – people for whom Christ died – (ie sinners) -that we are supposed to love and minister to.It may also refer to people who when politely asked to take off their shoes before entering another mans house say “I love Jesus, so I can tramp dirt all over your house, screw you and your clean house!” – what hypocrites.
somehistory says
Nothing was taken out of context. You don’t understand the Bible or Christ.
Those whom Jesus speaks of being on His *right* who “do good to His brothers.” he does not say, “You served me.” He says those ones do “good”…visit in prison, feed when hungry, take care of in sickness, give a glass of water when thirsty, or clothe when naked. He does not say they “served” Him by obeying commands and avoiding being a “part of the world.”
Not that you will understand this explanation because you don’t know *who* Jesus’ brothers are. You have said over and over that you would sue those who entered your house with their shoes on….even if they were Christian.
On top of that…you said you would sue them and that the man in the suit got of “lightly.” You would have asked for MORE….money….
Jesus wasn’t just talking about seeking money. He was making a point of principle, which again, you don’t understand. He said, “A man cannot serve two masters as he will hate the one and love the other or despise the one….”
It is a principle of True Worship that God expects Exclusive Devotion. He will not share what belongs to Him as God with other ‘gods’ or other doctrine. Even if that other “god” is only money. “The love of money is a root of all sorts of sins.” Some people make it their god. moslums seem to have a stronger desire than most to make people pay for “offending” them.
You say you are Christian, but you put some very foul language here for all to read. You probably don’t recognize the verse where Jesus says, “What comes out of the mouth originates in the heart and this is what defiles a man.” It is clear for all who read your comments what you have in your heart.
You have also said your wife is both Christian and Buddhist. It is not possible to be both. God requires exclusive devotion. He won’t accept a divided heart. No matter how clean your floors are.
And one last thing: We are told to love what God loves and hate what He hates. moslums show such disrespect for life, for people and for Christ and His Father, it is not possible for a True Christian to show respect to them.
Since God “hates” a lying tongue, feet that hurry to murder, hands that shed innocent blood….so do Christians.
And as for “sallow”ing a camel…..You’ll have to explain how that is done. I’ve never been close enough to touch one, much less “sallow” one. i do believe though, that some camels are already “sallow.”
And thanks be to God that i do not have to go to your house for any reason. it must be like those “white washed graves” Christ spoke of.
Bill McKenzie says
Yes, as much as you try to deny it, you DID take Jesus statement out of context as do many people like you who twist the scriptures – you quoted the beginning of Jesus statement and left off the end and misapplied it. Deny it all you want. With regards to me forgiving others, tell me where it says I have to forgive someone that does not repent or ask for forgiveness? Can you quote that passage to me? Jesus also said:
“Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.”
Sorry, Jesus sets the example, no repentance no forgiveness. Additionally, forgiveness does not mean you have to forgo civil remedies. If you crash into my car and its your fault, I can forgive you, but you still have to pay my damages. If you break the speed limit, the Police office can forgive you,he Judge can forgive you, but you still have to pay your ticket. Even a murder victims family can forgive a murderer, but the murderer still has to go to prison if they are convicted. That is the duty of government according to Romans 13, and the nations will also be judged just as individuals are if they fail to enforce justice. The judges ruling was judicial, not vindictive.
Funny how you get all lovey-dovey after calling people for whom Christ died “scum” and accuse me of using foul language – lol.
somehistory says
You are truly ignorant of the Bible and its principles. Pathetic that you try so hard to prove you understand Jesus and His Father.
When a person *sins* against another person, they ask to be forgiven, but they don’t have to *repent.* When a person asks God for forgiveness, that is when they must show repentance.
Contrary to what you think, a person can be forgiven by God whether or not you forgive them…of *offending* you or even harming you.
And the Bible doesn’t support the idea of not offending anyone anytime….that is a moslum thing.
Jesus called the Pharisees “serpents, offspring of vipers.” He set the Perfect Example.
You say you spend a lot of time with them. Evidently, their attitudes and ideas have rubbed off on you. You write more like a lying moslum than any Christian would write.
And as for calling them scum…The Bible refers to people who go against God as “scummy dross.”
You are so mixed up it is truly pathetic. You pick and choose which Scriptures you like and discard the “weightier matters.” You equate someone soiling your floors with someone going against Christ and His commandments. You are making up your own rules, and then accusing others of doing that. when Jesus gave the parable of the man who couldn’t pay his debts to the king and was to be thrown into prison, was forgiven his debts, and then had his own slave thrown into prison, He was showing how much difference there is in the sins we commit against God and the sins others commit against us.
Dirtying your floors amounts to nothing compared to refusing a drink to a thirsty person, or suing someone for bringing sand into your home.
The “decision* by the judges was to appease the moslums. It was not just in any sense of the word.
And just because Jesus said settle matters quickly, He was not advocating Christians to sue people after being offended. He wants Christians to forgive and forget, not pretend to forgive and then sue, as in your comment, “the pants off” as is your “right.”
“By their fruits you will recognize them.” Your fruit is clearly in evidence. Not just by what you say, but how you say it and by what you threaten if some Christian dirties your floor.
And show me one time i wrote anything to you that was “lovey’dovey” to you. If I call someone scum, it’s because I see their scummy fruit, their rotten fruit.
Rapists of little children, murderers of innocent people, those who use the courts to gain unjust profit…are all scum. They know it. I know it. God knows it. Lying about it won’t change a thing. Denying it won’t wipe away the guilt.
As the Proverb says, there are six things God hates, seven that are detestable to Him. Those same things are detestable to me. You can embrace them if you choose. And you can try to justify your filthy words. There is a Judge who rules Justly and without bias or fear of being called names.
Now go clean your floors and sue the fireman when they come to put out a fire in your home cause they refuse to take off their boots.
That just might be what you reap, because it is what you are sowing.
Bill McKenzie says
Again, you show your ignorance – Jesus said “Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.” – this is like basic Christianity 101. Did you ever actually READ the New Testament? You sound like a moslem who never even read the Bible!
And again, Jesus set the example, no repentance, no forgiveness – this again is a basic principle of Christianity.
You are correct of course that by tramping dirt into my house he not only sinned against me and my wife, he also sinned against God and needs God’s forgiveness as well.
gravenimage says
Wait–your wife would suffer “mental anguish” if someone entered your house wearing shoes? How does she function in the real world?
I just hope you never suffer a need to call an ambulance or the police. I suppose she’d rather let you die than risk having EMS personnel enter your home without taking off their shoes?
Bill McKenzie says
Not if it was an accident. but of a man came to the door and after being asked to take off his shoes he says “screw you”, entered without permission, – and does this repeatedly it would be very distressing. Suppose a Muslim came man came into your house without permission, with his prayer rug and proceeded to do his asslifting in your living room without your permission… I think you might report the guy, have him convicted if he did not apologize and you’d be within your rights to sue him if he was still not repentant.
somehistory says
You really should red what Jesus said about forgiving someone when speaking to Peter. Peter asked Jesus how many times did he have to forgive someone who “sinned against” him.
When Jesus answered, He gave a number, but it represents an “unlimited” number of times.
So if someone comes into your home, and brings dirt on his shoes, refuses to take them off in worship of your wife’s religion, and uses language as you use and he does this over and over, and he asks you to forgive him over and over….if you follow Christ’s Commandment, you can’t “sue his pants off.”
Ahh, now the choices one must make. To Whom to give the worship and devotion? Will one use this as a means to get money….or obey Christ and forgive…over and over and over?
It’s very telling in that you use “Christian” when writing of someone using foul language and dirtying your floors, and moslum when going into someone’s home other than yours. How about moslums coming into your home? Forgive or sue? Bringing a rug and preying is a lot different than just not taking off the shoes. And moslums don’t have a *repentant* command. They don’t admit that what they do in service to their false god might be in error or offend.
You should also read over what you have written. You are very inconsistent except for your defense of the moslums suing the Christian for wearing his shoes, and in your claims to do the same if it happens in your house.
Bill McKenzie says
somehistory – You have already demonstrated your ignorance of basic Christian principles, (see above) and again you take not only Gods word my my words out of context. What I said was “refuses to repent and ask my forgiveness, then I would sue him for everything I could get”
Just as a reminder Jesus said:
“Even if they sin against you seven times in a day and seven times come back to you saying ‘I repent,’ you must forgive them.”
Again, basic Christianity 101, Jesus set the example for us to follow, no repentance means no forgiveness. Sorry if this upsets you so much, but “unless you repent, you will likewise perish” – deal with it.
and Jesus said:
“Reconcile quickly with your adversary, while you are still on the way to court. Otherwise he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. Truly I tell you, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.”
Now it does seem that perhaps you, like the moslems, do not recognize the words of Jesus as the words of God Himself, but they are. The Bible says that Jesus is God in the flesh.
Bill McKenzie says
Also somehistory – as I have already explained to you, following the teachings of Buddha on how to keep a clean home, is no different than following the teachings of Betty Crocker on how to bake a cake.
Buddhism has never had anything to do with the teachings of worshiping any god, and Buddha was not a god.
Lastly, as you said, taking off shoes is nothing like asslifting – ie taking off your shoes to enter someone else’s home is not an act of “worship” except in the mind of an utter idiot.
Bill McKenzie says
Another thing somehistory, did you know that Islam teaches that you should wipe your ass after taking a crap and then wash your hands? BETTER WATCH OUT! According to you, that could be a form of worship too lol!
somehistory says
There is none so blind as those who will not see.
You said you would sue the “pants off” a Christian who came into your home and refused to take off his shoes as that would be “dissin” your wife.
Christians don’t threaten to sue the pants off other Christians. Christians don’t use the language you use. Christians don’t insist that other *respect* any other religion, such as making them remove shoes for buddha.
and the little statue is a “god” to buddhists whether you wish to think so or not.
I’m not the least bit afraid of facing Judgement. My hands are clean. If God wishes that I do not continue living when He brings destruction upon the evil…moslums won’t be the only ones eliminated…then that is His right as Creator and Sovereign.
You have a dirty mind and a dirty *tongue* through your fingertips.
I will not discourse with you further as I do not consent to associate with one so moslum, even through a computer.
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Aardvark says
And I like the joke allegedly posted on Facebook by the landlord:
“The post tells the story of a devout Arab Muslim who got into a cab in London and asked the driver to turn off the radio. According to the post, when the driver asked why, the passenger replied that there was no music, especially Western music, in the time of the Holy Prophet. The post then says that the cab driver switched off the radio, stopped the cab and opened the door for the passenger to get out.
When the passenger asked what he was doing, the cab driver said
In the time of the Holy Prophet, there were no taxis, no bombs, no plane hijacks, no West invented loud speakers in mosques that woke up newly born, the elderly and the sick at unearthly hours, no suicide attacks, no RDX, no AK 47, only PEACE everywhere. So shut up, get down and wait for a camel.”
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, now most of the cab drivers are themselves Mohammedans.
somehistory says
All too true, g.
somehistory says
moslums may claim that there was no music back then, but the Bible says that King David played the harm and sang the Psalms…actually songs…when he was a very young man, still in his teens and later on, he danced as king when the Ark of the Covenant was brought to the City.
The ability to write music, play music, make musical instruments, and sing are all wonderful gifts from our Loving Creator.
moslums are wrong about most things. So, I can appreciate your joke.
LR says
Winith,
It is good to see a young person questioning and struggling to understand things going on in the world. Hat’s off to you.
I do not live in Canada, but I followed a bit on the M103 bill, and have a lot of respect for the Muslims who were against that bill. (Good video of Tarek Fatah on you tube).
The world is full of all kinds of people, some are much more reasonable to deal with than others. Some are honest, and trustworthy, while others are not. We all know this, but the variety of human personalities and thought, and problems, makes it quite a difficult, crazy and tragic world unfortunately.
Old people don’t understand this world either. You have to be smart, use your critical thinking, and gut instincts to get you by. Think for yourself and look to the good people in the world. No one is perfect of course.
I take people as the individuals they are, no matter what their religion. They are either good people, or not.
More Ham Ed says
Next time John should just carry a can of Bacon Bits with a “loose lid” and say out loud “I just like to munch on these” then “OOPS spilled the whole container on your floor – sorry.”
Horseman says
Totally absurd. Muslims pray in the streets blocking traffic. Canada like the EU is lost.
jACK k wARNER says
MUSLIMS NEVER RESPECT ANY OTHER RELIGION BUT WE ALL HAVE TO FOLLOW THE ISLAM WITH ALL THE BULLSHIT. TO MANY PEOPLE HAVE LOST THE BRAIN AS THEY FINE A PERSON TO NOT FOLLOW THE MUSLIMS RULES, WHERE ARE THE RIGHTS FOR NON-MUSLIMS ???????
WHERE ARE WE GOING-DOWNHILL OR DEAD BY THE RADICAL ISLAM ??????????
Manuel 2 Paleologus says
I am a Christian and I like not to have my shows on when in the houses for sanitary reason. But these muslims are using whatever they can to get easy money or to live on the back of the hosting countries like a bunch of bloodsuckers.
Their reason is based on their fake ‘religion; and had nothing to do with common sense.
gravenimage says
*Exactly*.
John A. Marre says
This is unjust. Canada is enforcing Sharia. Trudeau is responsible for this. He is a traitor, just like Obama is to the USA.
Allan Mandrowski says
Canada is lost.
Canuckstan will go down in flames.
LR says
According to some, these HRC’s are monstrous, and should be dismantled.
Ezra Levant on the HRC…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WKIcHTz4pFU
ninetyninepct says
DO NOT rent to Muslims. Do not deal with Muslims. Just say NO.
carol says
I once rented to two Muslims from Kosovo. After a month or so I was invited to have a meal with them. Very nice. Then one left and the other chased me around the table. Fortunately I had my shoes on and made my way out without slipping in my haste.
gravenimage says
Scary, Carol.
UNCLE VLADDI says
So prove he dirtied their rug and if he did, just charge him for the stream-cleaning. The courts were criminally negligent to take this case (and should be charged for it with same) and the muslims who brought it should have been thrown out on their ears.
Any and all judges and legislators who put subjective “hurt feelings” before objective FACTS should be fired and JAILED.
gravenimage says
Ontario “Human Rights Commission” fines man $12,000 for not removing his shoes in room where Muslims prayed
………………………
Utter insanity. This room is not even a Mosque–it is a room in a house that John Alabi owns.
I hope everyone donates to his defense fund.
moeped says
Be a part of this important fight to appeal the dangerous Sharia precedent that is being set in Canada. Go to http://www.HelpJohn.ca and contribute now!
Brian Hoff says
The court make the correct ruleing on this matter. The 30 seconds to of time to take the off wouldnot cost him 12000 dollar. Even the el paso fire d take they boot off when doing fire safely check.
somehistory says
Christians don’t engage in any form of worship to your fake god, satan.
Instead, Christians shake the dust off and proceed to the home of someone who isdeserving. Following the commands of Jesus Christ.
Just let a moslum’s house catch on fire and see whether the fireman take off their boots to fight it. It won’t happen..
gravenimage says
“Brian Hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–wrote:
The court make the correct ruleing (sic) on this matter. The 30 seconds to of (sic) time to take the off wouldnot (sic) cost him 12000 dollar. Even the el (sic) paso (sic) fire d (sic) take they (sic) boot (sic) off when doing fire safely check.
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*Of course* “DefenderofIslam” believes that Infidels should be fined–or, preferably, flogged or stoned to death–for not adhering to Shari’ah law.
By the way, did “DefenderofIslam’s” Mosque ever find him some wives? Or is he just waiting for the day when (as he hopes) he can just rape Texas Infidel women?
LR says
According to some, these HRC’s are monstrous, and should be dismantled.
Ezra Levant on the HRC…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WKIcHTz4pFU
gravenimage says
Yes–he bravely fought this court along with Mark Steyn. He won–but lost everything, including his magazine the Western Standard.